• 01-31-2010, 08:20 PM
    atomicAdam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Worf101
    You've done well considering the size of the room and the amount of furnishings... Bravo.

    Worf

    Thanks. Though I'd like to ditch that brown sofa at some point, and I'd like to get a better place for my bouldering pad (no, not like an iPad), after that, I think things will start to come together all around. Big score with the sound absorption fiber board from Home Depot and the covers from Target. There are two more not in the photos along side the converted MMGs covered in white. Not having to use the front door helps a lot as well.
  • 02-01-2010, 05:39 AM
    audio amateur
    Nice room. Are you going to keep the bike in there? Is your wife ok with it? That's another expensive hobby...

    And as JRA said, it does look like you are too close to the speakers. IMO, a perfect triangle layout means that you're always too close. I usually sit farther away, about 2:3 ratio or sometimes further otherwise I get a hole in the middle of the soundstage.
  • 02-01-2010, 04:43 PM
    atomicAdam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    Nice room. Are you going to keep the bike in there? Is your wife ok with it? That's another expensive hobby...

    And as JRA said, it does look like you are too close to the speakers. IMO, a perfect triangle layout means that you're always too close. I usually sit farther away, about 2:3 ratio or sometimes further otherwise I get a hole in the middle of the soundstage.

    Yep, the bike stays. One thing we agree on is how beautiful a machine it is. Canfield Brothers really made a looker, even though version two solves some issue, it doesn't look nearly as good.

    And yes, I know what you mean about the hole. Except I find I get it when not sitting in the triangle. I was listening to this Elmo Hope CD just yesterday and for a couple songs things just sounded so bad. I could hear the speakers and the music was all stack up on itself. Left channel and right channel only, no middle, and no space, just sound from the speakers. I moved a little more forward and to the right and bam! Two inches this way and 4 inches that way and the speaker went away, the piano got center stage (though not very present) and the CD became great to listen to.
  • 02-01-2010, 06:37 PM
    jrhymeammo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur

    And as JRA said, it does look like you are too close to the speakers. IMO, a perfect triangle layout means that you're always too close. I usually sit farther away, about 2:3 ratio or sometimes further otherwise I get a hole in the middle of the soundstage.

    I never understood the perfect triangle thing either.
    I've always preferred about 2:3 ratio as well.

    Hey Adam,
    This picture had me cringed. Oh the precious dust cover...
    http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/...t-AC-3and5.jpg

    Have fun on your speaker search.
    JRA
  • 02-01-2010, 07:26 PM
    atomicAdam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    I never understood the perfect triangle thing either.
    I've always preferred about 2:3 ratio as well.

    Hey Adam,
    This picture had me cringed. Oh the precious dust cover...
    http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/...t-AC-3and5.jpg

    Have fun on your speaker search.
    JRA


    LOL!

    Well my phono amp has been out of order for a couple weeks now because the 12v adapter blew up..errr...stopped working. So I wasn't using (still am not...times a ticken Simaudio)...the turntable. Everything is much orderly now.

    Actually I'd like to pull the shelf out another foot or so for better access to the back. I don't think it will mess with the sound greatly, and will be easier for switching ICs around and speaker cables.

    As far as speaker placement, I've never considered a formula before. I just play around for a while till I get the best sound. The issue was that I had them at a good spot after moving down to the new house in SoCal, but then stupidly one night I thought "can there be better?" From that point on I had nothing but trouble and horrible sound. Pappa suggested the Triangle and I wasn't very happy at 1st. I played around with that some but nothing worked. I then really set my mind to dealing with reflection points and most important the 1st reflection point, and now I am pretty happy with the set up. Just, you know, lows are near the floor or dead center, and highs are up near my ears. I think, a bigger room where the speakers could more further apart and I could sit back more would be fine, but I don't have that.

    But, over all I'd say I'm very happy. Plus, I don't have to share the room with wifie. It is basically mine, so speaker set up is my choice and layout is mine as well.

    I just spent the last hour listening to M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts at a good loud volume (Mon, Wed, nights I can do that cause wifie is in class till 9pm) - and all I can say is OMFG it is so good. Though. There were a couple times where sounds would jump out of the speakers toward me, and the lows weren't that clear. There were times where I just had to put the laptop down and close my eyes and listen as the music crescendo and all the electrical distortion was just so vibrating it tickled my ass. Seriously, it almost brown noted me at one point. Anyways, enough gross stuff.

    Needless to say, I'm pretty freaking happy with this set up at this time. Though I'd like to hear some vinyl before the months end and I'd like to upgrade speakers in a couple months.
  • 02-01-2010, 08:40 PM
    poppachubby
    Adam, why not go out and buy an adaptor. They're a dime a dozen at any surplus. I finished your cables today. I have bought all the supplies for the battery power supply also. I am going to try and set it up so when it arrives you can plug and play. Need a few more days...
  • 02-01-2010, 08:43 PM
    poppachubby
    BTW, go to the "Whats Spinning" thread, find nobody's post of the new Massive Attack, click on the image...
  • 02-01-2010, 08:55 PM
    atomicAdam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Adam, why not go out and buy an adaptor. They're a dime a dozen at any surplus. I finished your cables today. I have bought all the supplies for the battery power supply also. I am going to try and set it up so when it arrives you can plug and play. Need a few more days...


    Awesome about the cables and batteries. I can't, unfortunately, find such a store here. I went to ratshack and they didn't have a 12v .4A plug, and their price was $22 for the plug and another $7 for the adapter size into the unit. NO FREAKING WAY!

    I'm not sure where else to look around here cause I don't know where the flea markets are at. So stuck waiting. And I scored Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse from Skinny Puppy, Stray Cats and a 180g pressing of Sublime. Got to smoke 2 joints you know!
  • 02-02-2010, 04:19 AM
    audio amateur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppachubby
    BTW, go to the "Whats Spinning" thread, find nobody's post of the new Massive Attack, click on the image...

    Did you say new Massive Attack??
  • 02-02-2010, 04:36 AM
    poppachubby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    Did you say new Massive Attack??

    Yes and it's awesome.
  • 02-02-2010, 05:31 AM
    audio amateur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Yes and it's awesome.

    Okay, please inform me of these things in the future, I am a Massive Attack freak! Okay Tony?
  • 02-02-2010, 04:39 PM
    atomicAdam
    YAY - 12v adapter for the phono amp got here. Stray Cats never sounded so good!
  • 02-02-2010, 08:20 PM
    poppachubby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    Okay, please inform me of these things in the future, I am a Massive Attack freak! Okay Tony?

    Got it Tony.