Headphone Surprise!

[RoyY51]

Lately, I've found myself listening to less music and watching more movies and television. The music I was hearing, including my old favorites, just wasn't doing it for me any more. A friend of mine, upon hearing of my dilemma, recommended that I try listening to music through headphones...said it might lend a different perspective. I decided to give it a try, but I wasn't about to risk hundreds of dollars on something that might not change anything. So I did my homework and placed an order through Amazon for a set of Audio Technica M20x's. The reviews had been very favorable and, for $49, I figured I couldn't get hurt too badly.

Wow!

The last time that I had done any serious listening through cans was back in the 60s. Even through the gaseous haze that was omnipresent at that time, I don't recall music through headphones sounding this good! The ability to pick out individual instruments and singers, even to their positioning in the soundfield, is intoxicating! I'm now going through my collection, disk by disk, and happily listening to all the nuances that I never heard before!

The headphones that I listened to back in the 60s were bulky, heavy, cost my listening companion a couple of week's salary, and, as best I recall, didn't sound near this good. These things are lightweight, comfortable, detailed, sound great, and are only 49 bucks! Isn't technology a wonderful thing?

BTW: out of the box, the bass response was a little reticent, a little flabby. After just a few hours, it tightened up to match the rest of the spectrum and there is now a seamless and precise presentation from top to bottom.

If you are, as I was, experiencing musical doldrums, you might want to give this a try!

[Mr Peabody]

Cool. I find headphones really start sounding as they should after about 24 hours or so. What are you plugging your headphones into? If the enthusiasm is still there after some time you might want to consider a headphone amp.

[topspeed]

That's awesome! Anything that brings you back to the music is a good thing. Life is fraught with drama and distractions and many times the very things that allow us to center ourselves are the first casualties. Vinyl did the same thing for me, not only by highlighting how bad digital music had become, but also by stoking the fire to start looking for new music, something I hadn't done for years. Congrats on finding the spark again.

BTW, one advantage I've found with cans is that my family can still watch tv/play video games using the main rig while I enjoy music and read plugged directly into the source. I've got Sony MDR 7506's and with their 10' cord, everyone wins

Enjoy!

[RoyY51]

Mr Peabody and topspeed: thanks for chiming in! To answer Mr Peabody's question, I have the phones plugged directly into the headphone jack on the front panel of my Marantz receiver. And, although the phones continue to open up, I do feel that there is some "meat" missing from the presentation. I've got all the detail, all the "sizzle", but I find myself wishing for a more flesh and blood sound. Would a headphone amp help in this regard? If so, do you have any recommendations? Please keep in mind that the phones were only $49, and I am not likely to spend many multiples of that on an amp. Home Depot just doesn't pay that well! And topspeed: I agree with you 100%! Life's too short not to enjoy music on a daily basis...and I intend to make up for lost time!

[Mr Peabody]

Marantz usually seems to be a fairly warm sound. As you stated the cans were only $49.00. I think a headphone amp would add a bit of drive and a tubed amp could give more "flech on the bone". I'm not sure what to recommend for a budget amp. If some one was familiar with some of the Chinese import tube head amps that might be an affordable option. Have you tried the "direct" mode on the receiver to see If that helps? I'm not sure exactly what Marantz calls it but it's the stereo mode that bypasses all the internal processing. You could also try plugging into the source directly but my experience has been direct to source typically isn't as smooth as from the receiver or head amp. You might try a search on Amazon as well to see what comes up for brands & pricing. If listening to CD's just curious which type of connection you are using, digital where the receiver decodes to analog or an analog (red/white) connection where the CDP decodes? This to may be a place to experiment to see which sounds best.

[Mr Peabody]

In addition, if you are streaming or using mp3 there probably isn't much you can do to help that sound much. Unless streaming from one of the high res services.

[JoeE SP9]

I'm a soundstage fan. None of the headphones I've ever tried do anything but place music in a straight line through the middle of my head from one ear to another. Do they sound clean, clear, full bodied (well there's no visceral bass)? I suppose so. However, without a soundstage they will forever be relegated to on the go or temporary use. Regardless, I keep trying to find some that produce a soundstage for me. I'm currently thinking of buying a pair of Stax SR 207's. With the energizer that comes to $790, a not inconsiderable sum for someone retired.

[RoyY51]

Marantz usually seems to be a fairly warm sound. As you stated the cans were only $49.00. I think a headphone amp would add a bit of drive and a tubed amp could give more "flech on the bone". I'm not sure what to recommend for a budget amp. If some one was familiar with some of the Chinese import tube head amps that might be an affordable option. Have you tried the "direct" mode on the receiver to see If that helps? I'm not sure exactly what Marantz calls it but it's the stereo mode that bypasses all the internal processing. You could also try plugging into the source directly but my experience has been direct to source typically isn't as smooth as from the receiver or head amp. You might try a search on Amazon as well to see what comes up for brands & pricing. If listening to CD's just curious which type of connection you are using, digital where the receiver decodes to analog or an analog (red/white) connection where the CDP decodes? This to may be a place to experiment to see which sounds best.

Although I'm directing this query to Mr. P, I would appreciate any other observations.

I decided to take your advice regarding the "Chinese import tube-head amps", and bought the Nobsound NS-08E from Amazon. I decided to take the plunge for three reasons: 1) It got a great review in Sound and Vision ("No joke, this thing is fantastic. Not "fantastic for $50" but legitimately fantastic"), 2) Mr. P thought it might put more "fletch on the bone", and 3) It was only $50! As I wait for the cables I ordered to arrive, it occurs to me that I don't have a clue how to hook it up...and that's where you guys come in.

I have been running my phones directly out of my Marantz SR-5008's "phones" output on the front panel. but I have a suspicion that some other configuration may be required when adding a headphone amp. Can anyone tell me how to hook this thing up without frying something?

[Mr Peabody]

Hi Roy, I'm not sure what input your headamp has. I'm assuming an analog input and a connection for your headphones. I'd go from your CD player analog output into your headphone amp input. You'd be using only the headamp to drive the headphones.

If you want to use other sources, the only way I can think of to do that would be to come out of the receiver's preamp output into the headamp's input. I'm not sure how that would effect listening to the receiver. You could also use a tape monitor loop, which would be best, but I'm assuming the receiver being A/V doesn't have a tape monitor.

[RoyY51]

Although I'm directing this query to Mr. P, I would appreciate any other observations.

I decided to take your advice regarding the "Chinese import tube-head amps", and bought the Nobsound NS-08E from Amazon. I decided to take the plunge for three reasons: 1) It got a great review in Sound and Vision ("No joke, this thing is fantastic. Not "fantastic for $50" but legitimately fantastic"), 2) Mr. P thought it might put more "fletch on the bone", and 3) It was only $50! As I wait for the cables I ordered to arrive, it occurs to me that I don't have a clue how to hook it up...and that's where you guys come in.

I have been running my phones directly out of my Marantz SR-5008's "phones" output on the front panel. but I have a suspicion that some other configuration may be required when adding a headphone amp. Can anyone tell me how to hook this thing up without frying something?

Okay...I finally figured out the right connections, got the right cables and hooked up the Nobsound that I had burned in for 24 hours. I put on a Steely Dan Album, dimmed the lights, parked my butt in the Barcalounger, and prepared myself for $50 worth of Audio Nirvana.

I was underwhelmed.

Everything sounded, for lack of a better word, chaotic. There was such a mish-mosh of musical instruments that they actually sounded out of tune! The lead vocals and solo instruments were okay, but everything else devolved into a jumbled-up mess! I unhooked it and went back to the "phones" output on my Marantz, and order was restored. I changed back to the Nobsound and the chaos was back as well. Either I'm doing something wrong, or the S&V reviewer who called these "fantastic" was enjoying something more than a glass of Pinot! Any thoughts?