OK, who is interested in a brand new tube receiver for $164?

[markw]

And it puts out 2,000, yes, TWO THOUSAND WATTS!!!

Would I lie to you?

I can honestly say this a real Pyle. Of what, though, is the real question.

(Is there such a thing as "white van receivers"?)

[Ajani]

2000 watts peak... lol... probably at 1 ohm, 1 channel for 1/1,000,000,000th of a second (before the receiver explodes)

[Feanor]

And it puts out 2,000, yes, TWO THOUSAND WATTS!!!

Would I lie to you?

I can honestly say this a real Pyle. Of what, though, is the real question.

(Is there such a thing as "white van receivers"?)

A bargoon my friend, surely. After all the listprice is $334.

[GMichael]

It is Pyle. Most of their stuff is a pile of Pyle.

[Luvin Da Blues]

Does that say ANUS on the display??? Kinda appropriate.

[Invader3k]

I have to admit I'd like to see a review of it.

[m.powers]

2000 Watts? What ever happened to real RMS? When Wattage actually
ment something, that could be interperated in the good old USA!!!!!!!!!

[basite]

I wonder if the tubes are actually connected to anything at all...

the front plate is a shameless ripoff of the previous line of Denon receivers, as are the knobs, even the remote is darn similar...

no way that even puts out 100 watts, without audible disortion...
for 10 seconds,
after which it'll explode, and melt down in your rack...

[emaidel]

Well, the listing says 260 watts at 8 ohms, but doesn't specifiy if that's total power, one channel only, level of distortion, frequency at which it was measured, etc., etc.

This reminds me of the power wars back in the early 70's when the ludicrous "plus or minus 1 db." suffix was added to a receiver/amp's power ratings. All of a sudden, something previously rated at one level, jumped over 20 %, and it was all perfectly legal, if misleading.

The Lafayette LR-1500TA receiver (a Consumer Reports "Check-Rated Best Buy" for 5 years running) sold for $300, and was initially rated at "150 watts IHF into 8 ohms." Ultimately, the receiver was rated at 240 wats at 4 ohms, and with the "plus or minus...." nonsense added. Nothing had changed about the receiver - just the advertised specs.

At a MacIntosh lab clinic, the LR-1500TA was measured to deliver a solid 36 watts per channel at 8 ohms, with both channels driven. While that was a respectable amount of power for a receiver in the day, it was a far cry from "240 watts at 4 ohms, plus or minus 1 db." And so, it all starts again...

[Hyfi]

None of the documentation mentions the tubes. What are they?
The Owners Manual says 1% distortion but for the price, it may be a better choice than other cheapo units.

[markw]

None of the documentation mentions the tubes. What are they?
The Owners Manual says 1% distortion but for the price, it may be a better choice than other cheapo units.

I take it the 40 to 15khz response doesn't bother you?

Poke around the owner's manual here.

[Hyfi]

I take it the 40 to 15khz response doesn't bother you?

Poke around the owner's manual here.

That is what I was looking at. My comment was more about comparing to other similarly priced ($159 at some places) tube receivers. If I wasn't an audio nut, no none of that would bother me.

[markw]

That is what I was looking at. My comment was more about comparing to other similarly priced ($159 at some places) tube receivers. If I wasn't an audio nut, no none of that would bother me.

There are other similarly priced tube receivers out there? I've never stumbled across any before. Can you post a link or two?

Offhand, if I wewe looking for abudget two-channel, NIB, I think I'd go with the Sherwood 41xx series. They have been around a while and I know a few people who have them (on my recommendation).

[Hyfi]

There are other similarly priced tube receivers out there? I've never stumbled across any before. Can you post a link or two?

Offhand, if I wewe looking for abudget two-channel, NIB, I think I'd go with the Sherwood 41xx series. They have been around a while and I know a few people who have them (on my recommendation).

Ha! There are none of course but when I was looking, the Sherwood is what I found and it's specs are pretty good compared the Pyle of crap.

Sure would be interesting to hear it though.

[Nasir]

I am lost for words!! And to think that I paid 3 times as much for a kit....sob....and when assembled it put out a mere 20 Watts per channel.... and it didn´t self destruct nor reduce my speakers to subatomic particles upon switching on. Mind you, I made sure that the wife was not at home when I hit the "ON" button, just in case I had made a mistake in the wiring!!!
A vacuum amp of 2000 Watts at this price is best left alone in the box it came in: for fear of finding out how one got robbed.....

[JoeE SP9]

Pyle is very big in the car stereo business. Everyone knows one car stereo Watt is twenty real Watt's!