-
Quote:
Originally Posted by E-Stat
Do you honestly think that Jon Curl thinks his mods to your amps are equivalent to his JC-1 design? C'mon! I'm convinced he could find multiple ways to improve upon any Onkyo implementation in terms of component quality and power supply effectiveness. What he cannot fix is the inherent topology. As good as the JC-1s are (I've heard them at length, have you?), far better exists (at least for musical content). They do quite well, however, at their price point given the Chinese assembly.
rw
When you read a statement, try reading that statement exactly for what it states. In the future, avoid putting things in that statement that the statement didn't exactly state.
Thanks!
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by E-Stat
I would sincerely hope these "THX approved" speakers also break with the bass management convention because I seriously doubt the 2.5" *mains* have any clue whatsoever as to what 80 hz means!
High End THX
rw
The 80hz standard does not apply to PC speakers, it only applies to it home THX speakers. Their PC certification has a much higher crossover point to ensure that the speakers can playback X level at the ears from X position away.
There are different standards for certifying different kinds of components.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
The 80hz standard does not apply to PC speakers, it only applies to it home THX speakers. Their PC certification has a much higher crossover point to ensure that the speakers can playback X level at the ears from X position away.
There are different standards for certifying different kinds of components.
Why does a PC speaker need to be certified?
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
When you read a statement, try reading that statement exactly for what it states. In the future, avoid putting things in that statement that the statement didn't exactly state.
Ok. Do you really think that modified mid-fi is equivalent to purpose built gear designed to a far higher level? Apparently, you are not aware of what Mr. Curl can do with a clean sheet of paper.
rw
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
There are different standards for certifying different kinds of components.
More fodder for your comment that THX certification is a joke. It is a standard that has nothing remotely to do with performance. :)
rw
-
I think I will get me a beer and pop me some popcorn too. But I can see you guys points on both sides. If people have the ability to modify mid fi gear and get high end performance out of it and be satisfied then great. But for a good audio designer to design something form scratch to be no holds barred performance would be at a different level too. But other than that I will drink my beverage and let you gentlemen argue this one out.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajani
Why does a PC speaker need to be certified?
It doesn't, that is why it is a joke to do so.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by E-Stat
Ok. Do you really think that modified mid-fi is equivalent to purpose built gear designed to a far higher level? Apparently, you are not aware of what Mr. Curl can do with a clean sheet of paper.
rw
The word assumption does begin with the word a$$. I am very aware of what Mr. Curl can do, that is why I asked him to do the modification. Do you have any more ASSumptions to add to this thread?
Amps are things you have to actually listen to before comment. Horse before buggy. Making comments about something you never heard is silly and illogical. Cart before horse. Taking more from a statement than was actually said, cart with no wheels and no horse.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
I am very aware of what Mr. Curl can do, that is why I asked him to do the modification.
Most folks would simply have said, "yes, I've heard the JC-1 amplifiers in my system". Is that a true statement - yes? no? Do you remember?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
Making comments about something you never heard is silly and illogical.
I'll ask the question again so perhaps you might respond. Do you really think that Jon Curl thinks his mods to Onkyo amps sound as good as his JC-1 design? He posts over at AA, so perhaps I'll ask him directly. :)
rw
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by E-Stat
Most folks would simply have said, "yes, I've heard the JC-1 amplifiers in my system". Is that a true statement - yes? no? Do you remember?
You don't know most folks, and most folks do not have answers that conform to what you believe they should be. I do not think that was the point of my comments in the first place. Interpret only what is written, it is safe that way.
Quote:
I'll ask the question again so perhaps you might respond. Do you really think that Jon Curl thinks his mods to Onkyo amps sound as good as his JC-1 design? He posts over at AA, so perhaps I'll ask him directly. :)
rw
I do not know what John Curl thinks, I am not John Curl am I? If you have to ask him directly, do so. I am the wrong person to poise that question to.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
You don't know most folks, and most folks do not have answers that conform to what you believe they should be.
Sorry that my trick question "have you ever heard JC-1s in your system" baffled you.
rw
-
re:
I know an insider at the Harmon corp., and from what I have heard, their behind the bubble when it comes to new technology. By the time they develop new products, their already outdated, so in order to keep up they are using what’s on the market already. I was also told that their audiophile products were “crap!” and they were probably going to lose their base costumers. just some things I heard.
-
Fascinating read. Ahem, forgive me for asking the obvious, but has Lexicon responded?
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightflier
Fascinating read. Ahem, forgive me for asking the obvious, but has Lexicon responded?
Yes... they stick by their claims that they have made improvements over the Oppo, but haven't stated what those improvements are.... (I believe that response is on the Audioholics' website)...
-
I wonder how many people have laughed and then said, "You don't really believe that your $500 player can actually be as good as my $3000 player do you?"
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajani
Yes... they stick by their claims that they have made improvements over the Oppo, but haven't stated what those improvements are.... (I believe that response is on the Audioholics' website)...
One would think, that if the article published wasn't true, Harmon would sue for slander, etc. The fact that they haven't, speaks volumes. They're probably hoping it will blow over, which it will, eventually. Kinda reminds me of baseball's steroids controversey, everyone knows the players involved are lying, and it becomes kind of a joke after a while. Better to fess up, and move along.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMichael
I wonder how many people have laughed and then said, "You don't really believe that your $500 player can actually be as good as my $3000 player do you?"
I find it amazing that apparently they only did badge engineering. I'm aware of a number of players that used the transport from a cheaper donor, but incorporated their own discrete output stage (which is where the basic Oppo needs help). For those who output the digital stream to an external processor, even that would be superfluous.
rw
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by E-Stat
I find it amazing that apparently they only did badge engineering. I'm aware of a number of players that used the transport from a cheaper donor, but incorporated their own discrete output stage (which is where the basic Oppo needs help). For those who output the digital stream to an external processor, even that would be superfluous.
rw
I work in the laptop and printer parts business. We often see parts and even large assemblies from one manufacture being used in another's unit, but I don't ever remember anyone completely "re-badging" another's printer in whole.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMichael
I work in the laptop and printer parts business. We often see parts and even large assemblies from one manufacture being used in another's unit, but I don't ever remember anyone completely "re-badging" another's printer in whole.
Does that mean if I need a part for my 5 year old Dell you can be my hookup? :D
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by audio amateur
Does that mean if I need a part for my 5 year old Dell you can be my hookup? :D
I can find Dell parts, but we don't get any discounts on them. We'd end up marking the price up. You're better off going on Google yourself. Ebay is another good source. If you need Toshiba laptop or projector parts I can hook you up for sure.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMichael
I can find Dell parts, but we don't get any discounts on them. We'd end up marking the price up. You're better off going on Google yourself. Ebay is another good source. If you need Toshiba laptop or projector parts I can hook you up for sure.
Is that toshiba projectors or any projector? Tanx
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by audio amateur
Is that toshiba projectors or any projector? Tanx
Tosh mostly. I think we can get Epson parts too.
-
I'm looking at a full hd Optoma for 500 bucks:D Any idea how expensive their bulbs are?
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by audio amateur
I'm looking at a full hd Optoma for 500 bucks:D Any idea how expensive their bulbs are?
I would try this company first. http://www.dlplampsource.com/e-store...=1016181377040
Once you have the part number needed, you can check Google & Ebay for the best pricing.
-
Isn't it a matter of degrees?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMichael
I work in the laptop and printer parts business. We often see parts and even large assemblies from one manufacture being used in another's unit, but I don't ever remember anyone completely "re-badging" another's printer in whole.
I believe that Canon still designs, manufactures, and assembles all of HP's printers, and the badge on the front is just that, a badge. The big difference, is that the price difference between Canon and HP printers isn't $2K.
I'm really surprised that Lexicon is sticking to their guns, not just because of the negative popular press, but also considering the negative response it will be getting from the audio community. As has been pointed out, it calls all hi-fi into question and could affect sales across this industry, especially in this economy. I sure hope Michael Fremer doesn't come out in defense of Lexicon....
|