Troy's Avatar Thread...

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Originally Posted by Troy

Maybe to you. While Avatar is quite advanced over past motion capture characters, there is still no mistaking that they are animated. And they have features that are exaggerated. Cartoonish? That's just semantics. Do they have to appear cartoonish (IE: like Elmer Fudd) for the animation to be considered a cartoon? I say no. Animation=Cartoon.



Motion capture=animation. Period. Animated characters have never been eligible for acting oscar® contention.

Yes, MC introduces an interesting conundrum. I have no idea how you determine where the line is for an actor getting a nomination if the character they portray is animated.



Well, I'm gonna disagree, there isn't a single acting performance in Avatar (animated or otherwise) that deserves a nomination, so we don't have to worry about it. Yet.

I suspect most actors don't like the idea of animated characters getting oscar® noms, whether they are MC or not.

I also think that your " you don't piss off your #1 money maker." comment, as it applies to acting nominations doesn't hold water. While this is true for most of the other major oscar® categories, the acting oscars® usually have nothing to do with box office. A look at nominations of the past will bear this out.

And to anyone that finds the writing in Avatar to be good, I direct you to this hilarious gem I found on the internets:

http://www.designshed.com/samplestuff/pocatar.jpg

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Boy am I glad to find this...i tried to explain this movie to my wife (didn't see the movie) and said basically the whole Cowboy -- Indian story and this thread just proves what i was trying to say...what a joke. We were so disappointed in this movie because the lack of originality.
Could care less if i see it again. A remake sure, but don't pitch it as something new.

I too finally caved in and saw Avatar. The thing is the funny serial critic is correct on a lot of points painting the military out to be dunderhead unfeeling neanderthals who live to kill. On the other hand the main character was one of those members of the military who was the pivotal character to create change. Yes it's Dances With Wolves with Pocahontas in space. Or Aliens meets Pocahontas because the military in Aliens was as goofy as Avatar. Although Aliens IMO is a much better movie than Avatar because of better human drama.

And yes the acting was mostly two dimensional and no it's not a great film. But it is a good film. I mean ripping off Dances with Wolves or pocahontas isn't exactly a horrible idea. These stories of nature versus man's disregard for nature is one of the main ideas today and throw in a huge amount of Aristotlean spectacle and you'll have a solidly entertaining film. The movie is something like 2 hours and 40 minutes and the visuals and story carried me through their ride.

It's not best picture material - nor should it have been nominated in my opinion - but it was entertaining and it did seem to transport me to another world like few films of this type do. I just wish they would make the bad guys a lot more rounded. Sure they can be evil greedy monsters but perhaps not so on the nose about it. Cameron has to place the human drama above the special effects - he did it with the original Terminator - perhaps because of a small budget. With the large budget the human story is thinner and two dimensional so all you have is pretty pictures. This is why Jaws was so successful - the main special effects piece was the shark but the human drama of the three men on the boat is what made it a masterpiece and still holds up to this day. Avatar's story just isn't that good and once the special effects are surpassed - there will be little there to really admire.

I have not seen Hurt Locker - but Inglorious Basterds IMO is a much better film than Avatar.

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Originally Posted by mrjackfrenkobs

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It's about time someone else saw the blatant way Cameron was discussing the issues of Clavamox through the plight of the N'avi! I knew someone else would see the similarities between the way clavulanic acid is excreted in the urine within the first 6 hours and how Jake Sully would connect to Neytiri.

Finally!! Someone gets it!!

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Originally Posted by Kam

It's about time someone else saw the blatant way Cameron was discussing the issues of Clavamox through the plight of the N'avi! I knew someone else would see the similarities between the way clavulanic acid is excreted in the urine within the first 6 hours and how Jake Sully would connect to Neytiri.

Finally!! Someone gets it!!

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WTF is this all about, and why does it matter?

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Originally Posted by Feanor

WTF is this all about, and why does it matter?

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in all seriousness i would guess it's a pure spam post. i was just having fun.

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Originally Posted by Kam

in all seriousness i would guess it's a pure spam post. i was just having fun.

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I got that part. Keep up the good work KAM. It's great to see you around lately.

My pet cat was getting Clavamox after I brought her home from the vet. Pet antibiotic.

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Originally Posted by Angry old liberal

WTF is this all about, and why does it matter?

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See that little triangle with the exclamation point in it Bill? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas

My pet cat was getting Clavamox after I brought her home from the vet. Pet antibiotic.


See that little triangle with the exclamation point in it Bill? :rolleyes:

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Hummmm ... :aureola:

ok now the clavamox relation to the n'avis plight and the jack sully connection i thought was pretty blatantly obvious. but stromectal? please, were we watching the same movie?

i think you might be confusing clash of the titans, seeing as the same actor was in both movies, as stromectal is far more relevant to clash of the titans than it is avatar. seriously, this is rediculous. stromectal and avatar. hahahaha. that's just ludicrous. now who wants to talk about stromectal and clash of the titans? there is an amazing discussion if i ever heard of one.