Michael Bay Best Film.

[Smokey]

If you have seen any of Michael Bay's movies as director, one would expect a loud in your face action movie with a soudtrack to match. And he has been consistent in his career to flush out such action movies.

He has only directed eight feature movies so far, with most having blockbuster budget. But choosing the best one might not be an easy task as each of his movies carry the same theme (big sound and action). So lets see how the poll turn out.

Bad Boys (1995): One of the best movie opening sequence.


The Rock (1996) : A group of U.S. marines, under command of a renegade general, take over Alcatraz and threat San Francisco Bay with biological weapons.


Armageddon (1998): Too much bark and not enought bite.


Pearl Harbor (2001) : A cheesy love triangle, with PH as background event.


Bad Boys II (2003): The boys are back again.


The Island (2005) :A man goes on the run after he discovers that he is actually a "harvested being".


Transformers (2007) : An ancient struggle re-erupts on Earth between two extraterrestrial clans, the heroic Autobots and the evil Decepticons.


Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009): Optimus Prime forms an alliance with international armies for a second epic battle.

[Gerald Cooperberg]

[audio amateur]

It's amazing how bad some of his films are and yet he's made some very decent ones. I vote for the rock.

[dakatabg]

I voted for Pearl Harbor (2001)

[3LB]

Like trying to pick my favorite Limp Bizkit song.

[Gerald Cooperberg]

Like trying to pick my favorite Limp Bizkit song.

Because you celebrate their entire catalog?

-Coop

[poppachubby]

I dug The Island for its sci-fi angle. The rest I can take or leave really. Bad Boys is a campy kind of flick I guess.

[Worf101]

It's like trying to pick which scab hurts less than the others if'n you ask me. I kinda enjoyed "Bad Boys", "The Rock" and "the Island" but it was pure popcorn munching material, as shallow as puddle on the sidewalk. As a military historian I found Pearl to be one of the biggest travesties in military film history. About the only thing he got right was that someone attacked PH by air. I mean, yeah it didn't have to be "Tora Tora Tora" but jeeze Louise, those P-40 Warhawks were zipping around the air like bloody X-wings. Pheh... I refuse to voite for any of this rubbish.

Worf.

[Troy]

I picked The Island, but Michael Bay is a bum who makes lowest common denominator movies for idiot audiences. What a terrible list!

[3LB]

jeeze Louise, those P-40 Warhawks were zipping around the air like bloody X-wings. Pheh...

but it was so cool looking Worf, c'mon!

for those who are wondering why Worf's comments seemed to doubt the P40's capabilities in the movie - historically, the P-40's biggest battle attribute was the abillity to out-dive and take more punishment than, the Japanese A-6 Zero, a plane that was nearly twice as fast and much more manuverable. Beyond China pre-WWII, the P-40 was considered a flying coffin. They were already replaced early in the ETO, where they were expendible surplus compared against the newly supercharged P-38, and the up-and-coming P-47 Thunderbolt and P-51 Mustang, which is why the US practically gave them to China in the late '30s. In the hands of an expert pilot, they did OK, but were still religated to state militias as soon as better aircraft were made available at the fronts (i.e. everything else that came after).

[3LB]

Because you celebrate their entire catalog?

are you saying you don't?

[Smokey]

It's amazing how bad some of his films.

Like trying to pick my favorite Limp Bizkit song.

It's like trying to pick which scab hurts less than the others if'n you ask me.

What a terrible list!

I told you'll that this will not be an easy poll

So far Rock, Pearl Harbor and Island are in a tie. I was going to vote for Rock, but after seeing it couple of nights ago, I'm leaning toward Bad Boys due to its superiour editing.

The Rock had a good story, but Sean Connery's "know-it-all" charactor ruin it for me.

[RGA]

The Rock - they had fun with Connery's Bond role - a member of the secret service LOL - it was really the only film of the lot that I can rewatch. Bad Boys? Cmon' - bad movie.

Armageddon was loud and obnoxious and Pearl Harbor - there is a way to make history die an overacted cheeseball death. Transformers was fun for the first 2/3 then fell off the track but it was passable.

Looking at the list - I know why so many people make fun of Bay.

[Worf101]

but it was so cool looking Worf, c'mon!

for those who are wondering why Worf's comments seemed to doubt the P40's capabilities in the movie - historically, the P-40's biggest battle attribute was the abillity to out-dive and take more punishment than, the Japanese A-6 Zero, a plane that was nearly twice as fast and much more manuverable. Beyond China pre-WWII, the P-40 was considered a flying coffin. They were already replaced early in the ETO, where they were expendible surplus compared against the newly supercharged P-38, and the up-and-coming P-47 Thunderbolt and P-51 Mustang, which is why the US practically gave them to China in the late '30s. In the hands of an expert pilot, they did OK, but were still religated to state militias as soon as better aircraft were made available at the fronts (i.e. everything else that came after).

I knew there were some "bright" people on this forum but my word your scholarly expostion on the "merits" of the P-40 was/is like manna from heaven. Bad as the P-40 was, you had to admit she was a beauty to see and as bad as she flew, she was better than a P-39! Now THAT'S a dog of a plane. Thanks man, this was fun.

Worf

[3LB]

she was better than a P-39! Now THAT'S a dog of a plane.

I think we gave those away too. One of the first combination pursuit/attack platforms that never panned out (decades later and those combo platforms still don't pan out). It was a mid-engined design, meaning the engine sat behind the pilot. It was too small of an engine to be fast, and too small of a plane to be a good attack platform, plus the mid-engine design made for some hairy manuverability drawbacks. A bigger engine would have made for a tail heavy plane. And the offset driveshaft resulted in a loss of torque and became imbalanced in tight manuvers, resulting in shuddering...yes, it was a mess.

[Troy]

I'm more of a P-63 fan myself. Most of those P-39 performance issues were addressed (bigger, faster, more stable, more firepower) and it kicked ass all over the eastern front.

[Geoffcin]

I knew there were some "bright" people on this forum but my word your scholarly expostion on the "merits" of the P-40 was/is like manna from heaven.

Worf

P40's?

Flying Tigers baby!!

American volunteers flying to save Asians. Don't let that ever be forgotten!

Even better....End war now.

How's that for off topic?

[Geoffcin]

Oh, and my favorite WWII fighter? The P-47 Thunderbolt.

5 tons of US armor plated mechanical hell-bringer. If you saw one in your rear view mirror you better hope he way on your side, or outta ammo.

But I digress....

[Mr Peabody]

Ever wish you haven't read the darn thread as I drag my knuckles on the floor with my Limp Bizkit CD's in hand. I own all of those movies except Bad Boys which just didn't work for me and The Island I haven't even seen but feel I must now. I liked a lot of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence movies individually but Bad Boys didn't work.

You guys can play it off if you want but you ain't fooling any one, you liked those movies and you know it.

[Worf101]

I must admit, my opinion of WWII flying iron is based on my fascination with the air war of WWII and the fact that, when my joystick's workin', I fly the very beasts we're talking about, online, with a squadron in realtime, with comms and TrackIr. I've flown em all Axis and Allied, single and multi-engined. Nothing like landing after a hard fought victory with friends and lining em up tip to tip. Smoke em if you got em! We play IL2 1946 online via Hyperlobby. No elves, no dwarfs, no orcs, no balrogs, no effin' spells,...just lead, smoke and steel!

Worf101 99th Pursuit Squadron, 332nd Virtual Fighter Group, Tuskegee Airmen "Straighten up and fly right!"

Worf

[Worf101]

This is what I'm talking about:









Worf

[Troy]

Aaack, your pictures are too big!

My actual favorite WWII fighter was the Me 262. What a beautiful aircraft, AND it could fly circles around everything else.

I used to play a sim called Hellcats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellcats_Over_the_Pacific
Wow, does that cheesy and old now! Unbelievable fun tho.

[Troy]

This is what I'm talking about:



Worf

Hey, what's in the pipe . . . ?

[Smokey]

If I ever seen a thread being highjacked, this must be it

[Worf101]

If I ever seen a thread being highjacked, this must be it

YAARRRRRR Matey... Obsconded with ye thread we have. A bounty ye be a payin' if ye wants it returned to ye...

Yarrrr.....

Pegleg Worf!!!!