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Hurley was in an institution? What for? I don't remember that at all.
Last night's episode bored me to tears. For one, Charlie annoys me so I really don't care about his back-story that much. The imagery, especially the dream sequence with his mom and Claire as angels/saints, was a bit over the top. I thought Locke's pummeling was completely appropriate. What would you do if your friend's newborn baby was stolen, twice no less, and you found a known drug addict with him walking out to sea? You guys must not have kids because if you did, I have a feeling you would react in much the same way. Plus, note how not a single person tried to help Charlie up, but instead looked at him with disgust/disappointment, and walked away.
So what are the theories with Locke keeping the statues and changing the combo on the safe? The trailer showed Jack yelling at Locke asking what he did with the guns. Maybe after the ambush, Locke is planning on taking the Others on by himself, Commando style? He is a bit of a loner after all.
In the trailer for the next episode, could anybody discern what was being said on the radio? I played it over and over, but couldn't make it out. Was it Walt? A primal scream? A polar bear and black horse singing Peaches and Herb?
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Originally Posted by topspeed
Hurley was in an institution? What for? I don't remember that at all.
Last night's episode bored me to tears. For one, Charlie annoys me so I really don't care about his back-story that much. The imagery, especially the dream sequence with his mom and Claire as angels/saints, was a bit over the top. I thought Locke's pummeling was completely appropriate. What would you do if your friend's newborn baby was stolen, twice no less, and you found a known drug addict with him walking out to sea? You guys must not have kids because if you did, I have a feeling you would react in much the same way. Plus, note how not a single person tried to help Charlie up, but instead looked at him with disgust/disappointment, and walked away.
So what are the theories with Locke keeping the statues and changing the combo on the safe? The trailer showed Jack yelling at Locke asking what he did with the guns. Maybe after the ambush, Locke is planning on taking the Others on by himself, Commando style? He is a bit of a loner after all.
In the trailer for the next episode, could anybody discern what was being said on the radio? I played it over and over, but couldn't make it out. Was it Walt? A primal scream? A polar bear and black horse singing Peaches and Herb?
hurley mentions it a couple times to jack, that he was in an institution, and in one of hurley's backstories. We see when he goes to visit the dude in the mental institution and hears him muttering the numbers first we think that he worked there or had another connection, but then in another episode he mentions that he was committed in a mental institution for a while, but then he got better.
yeah i can see where you're coming from on locke beating up on charlie being appropriate if those were the only issues involved. but given the fact that they're on an island that has mechanical smoke, polar bears, horses, reincarnated boars, a wandering frenchwoman, an ancient ship, a wandering australian, and a group of Others.... i'd give him a leeeeetle bit of leeway. i know locke was harsh on him when he brought up how noone doubted kate when she sees a horse or everyone else seeing Walt, which was reasonable too, given charlie's history as a heroin addict up until a few weeks ago basically. so... yeah, understandable that locke would go ballistic with charlie to get across the seriousness of him putting aaron in danger.
i couldnt catch anything on the radio either, sounded like static or something garbled. i defn couldnt pick it up. not sure why locke would keep the heroin other than he intends on using it himself (not on himself but for something else). i think locke is going to get the Other's hooked on heroin and then be their dealer! or he's going to use the heroin as another hold over charlie in the future. i think locke is going very anti-gun and will stop jack from using the weapons to go after the Others, maybe even have his own strategy as to how to go about defending themselves. He is definitely turning to the dark side and, at least now, coming off as a very dark character. i sense another locke backstory reveal coming up soon!
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Originally Posted by topspeed
I thought Locke's pummeling was completely appropriate. What would you do if your friend's newborn baby was stolen, twice no less, and you found a known drug addict with him walking out to sea?
I never said that it wasn't appropriate (and well deserved!), only that it was a bit out of character for Locke.
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In the trailer for the next episode, could anybody discern what was being said on the radio? I played it over and over, but couldn't make it out. Was it... A polar bear and black horse singing Peaches and Herb?
LMAO!!
Next week's rerun episode is "Numbers". Is that the one where Hurley goes to the mental institution to see the guy who repeats the numbers over and over? I'll bet that there's a reason that they've chosen to air that particular episode....from season one, no less. Hmmmmm.
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Did anyone else catch this or am I the only one that thinks it was odd? When Hurley and the "Tailly" were doing wash, she said something to the effect of "Boy these are some high-tech washers". I got to looking when they panned out for something, and they are either Kenmore or Maytag Hi-Efficency Washer/Dryer combo. Those are like BRAND NEW. Anything odd about a sealed quarentine room, with 1960-early 70 computer technology, and a 2004 or newer washer/dryer combo?
Does this lend more credence that the computer "numbers" thing is just psycholgical "testing". I think that it does. It is to give the appearance of some old experiment that has been going on for many years, and yet they have the latest in home cleaning tech.
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Did anyone else catch this or am I the only one that thinks it was odd? When Hurley and the "Tailly" were doing wash, she said something to the effect of "Boy these are some high-tech washers". I got to looking when they panned out for something, and they are either Kenmore or Maytag Hi-Efficency Washer/Dryer combo. Those are like BRAND NEW. Anything odd about a sealed quarentine room, with 1960-early 70 computer technology, and a 2004 or newer washer/dryer combo?
Does this lend more credence that the computer "numbers" thing is just psycholgical "testing". I think that it does. It is to give the appearance of some old experiment that has been going on for many years, and yet they have the latest in home cleaning tech.
yeah good catch, i was wondering about that too. anything that they make a deal about pointing out, generally comes back to have some sort of significance, they dont have many throwaways in the show. i'm waiting for the '20 year old us army issue knife' comment that ana-lucia made to come back up.
now if those dryers are even a year old... that means someone came down while desmond was down there and put in the new washer/dryer, unless they were put in when or right before he got there 3 years ago. speaking of which, where the heck is desmond? does he know about the others? and another week off before he next episode! and it looks like its gonna be a good one too! argh!
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Originally Posted by Groundbeef
Did anyone else catch this or am I the only one that thinks it was odd? When Hurley and the "Tailly" were doing wash, she said something to the effect of "Boy these are some high-tech washers". I got to looking when they panned out for something, and they are either Kenmore or Maytag Hi-Efficency Washer/Dryer combo. Those are like BRAND NEW. Anything odd about a sealed quarentine room, with 1960-early 70 computer technology, and a 2004 or newer washer/dryer combo?
Does this lend more credence that the computer "numbers" thing is just psycholgical "testing". I think that it does. It is to give the appearance of some old experiment that has been going on for many years, and yet they have the latest in home cleaning tech.
The newness of the washer and dryer was mentioned a while ago on one of the Lost discussion boards. The comment on the show has the people on the same board wondering if it was a "shout-out" to the fans who brought up the age of the appliances in the first place.
I think that there has to be some sort of interaction with the Swan Station and the outside world. Not only are the washer and dryer obviously new, but when Hurley was taking inventory of the food he said that there was enough food to feed one man three meals a day for three months. Desmond had been there for three years. I find it hard to believe that he started with a three year food supply! And what would happen to him when he ran out of food in three months? Someone still has a vested interest in making sure that button gets pushed. And that someone is supplying the Station with food and other necessities.
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An explanatory Theory!
Woo hoo!
not sure if anyone else already knew this, but the repeat episode on wednesday will confirm the connection. with hurley's money, his accountaint mentions that they bought a box company in tustin. who on the island was a regional manager for a box company? none other than our locke.
and in the flashback, when hurley talks to the guy, Leonard, in the hospital about the numbers Leonard says, "You've opened the box! It won't stop. You've got to get away from them or it won't stop."
am beginning to think up an idea (that perhaps has already been posted on the other lost boards) but it goes something like this....
the numbers are along the lines of a reverse pandora's box. and hurley, once he unleashed them into the world, was drawn to the island, which pulls everything relating to the numbers to it. and that means everything. so anyone who was, in some way, remotely connected through the numbers to hurley was also pulled in to the island. and it's happenned several times over time, hence the black rock, the french woman, desmond, etc. just a theory that came to me, poke away!
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So what you're saying is that Hurley is the newest ground zero for a massive cause and effect chain started when he used the numbers for the lottery. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon only Hurley is Kevin. Is that it?
An interesting theory that I will have to spend some time pondering.
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So what you're saying is that Hurley is the newest ground zero for a massive cause and effect chain started when he used the numbers for the lottery. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon only Hurley is Kevin. Is that it?
An interesting theory that I will have to spend some time pondering.
pretty much, yeah. i think also, that the island/numbers casts its net out to bring in everyone realted to hurley's unleashing of the numbers, also happens to get 'lucky' with certain people it brings in, hence the strange connection and "special" comments about walt. which ties in to eko's comment, 'do not mistake fate for coincidence.' might even apply to the island itself.
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So, after watching the rerun of Numbers tonight I picked up on where the numbers seem to originate from.
The wife of the guy who was partners with the guy in the mental institution (ya got that?) said that her husband was in the military and was monitering the radio (I assumed short wave) and heard the numbers come out of the static.
The French woman said that they heard the numbers on the ships radio and followed the transmission to the island where they found a radio tower. She eventually changed the transmission to her own SOS.
So, I was going to ask the question...do you think that the numbers are related to a Numbers Station? But as I was researching Numbers Stations on Wikipedia, I found this....
Film and television
Cameron Crowe also featured parts of the "Conet Project" in scenes of the movie Vanilla Sky. He said he used the station recordings to create a sense of confusion.
Numbers stations may be the inspiration behind the mysterious radio transmission in the Lost TV series.
Guess I'm not the first person to make this realization, eh.
Unrelated to Lost...a great soundbite about The Conet Project and numbers stations is here, if you're interested. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4167689
So, if this was a numbers station, it opens a whole new can of questions. Do spies fit anywhere into our existing theories? What are the ramifications of having the Transmission changed? What does the transmission actually mean and who is/was it intended for? What is the connection between the transmission of the numbers and using those same numbers to reset the 108 minutes? Is having the transmission changed the "incident"????????
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So, after watching the rerun of Numbers tonight I picked up on where the numbers seem to originate from.
The wife of the guy who was partners with the guy in the mental institution (ya got that?) said that her husband was in the military and was monitering the radio (I assumed short wave) and heard the numbers come out of the static.
The French woman said that they heard the numbers on the ships radio and followed the transmission to the island where they found a radio tower. She eventually changed the transmission to her own SOS.
So, I was going to ask the question...do you think that the numbers are related to a Numbers Station? But as I was researching Numbers Stations on Wikipedia, I found this....
Film and television
Cameron Crowe also featured parts of the "Conet Project" in scenes of the movie Vanilla Sky. He said he used the station recordings to create a sense of confusion.
Numbers stations may be the inspiration behind the mysterious radio transmission in the Lost TV series.
Guess I'm not the first person to make this realization, eh.
Unrelated to Lost...a great soundbite about The Conet Project and numbers stations is here, if you're interested. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4167689
So, if this was a numbers station, it opens a whole new can of questions. Do spies fit anywhere into our existing theories? What are the ramifications of having the Transmission changed? What does the transmission actually mean and who is/was it intended for? What is the connection between the transmission of the numbers and using those same numbers to reset the 108 minutes? Is having the transmission changed the "incident"????????
now that's some interesting stuff! good finds!! the two things that both kind of fit in with the whole 'dont use the computer for anything other than inputting the numbers' (well, prolly a thousand things that fit, but heres two)
1. it really is an experiment, and so any other use of the computer would contaminate the data. kinda like a DBT taken to the ultimate extreme.
2. if its along your lines and its a number station, then that also might explain the huge electromagnetic source, because they would need this to broadcast the signal via radio waves, right? but then if they are broadcasting a spy code out, where is it going out to? who is on the receiving end? the spy idea also ties in with the US army 25 years ago reference. the cold war. maybe at the height of paranoia this station was created?
ah... more questions. everything's back to normal. :)
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1. it really is an experiment, and so any other use of the computer would contaminate the data. kinda like a DBT taken to the ultimate extreme.
You know everytime that I go back to season one, I discover more clues and great stuff. Season two, in comparison, has been pretty lame.
What does DBT mean?
So, some thoughts on computers and meeting The Others. We know that The Others have a computer. And we know that computer can communicate with the computer in the Swan bunker. So, can The Others communicate with the outside world? Before the plane crash, were The Others in control of the Swan? Is that how they got a new washer and dryer and more food for Desmond? And if that's true, why give up the bunker so easily? Is the place that they live even better, so giving up the Swan is no great loss? Or, are they just glad to be rid of the responsibility of the 108 minute button?
Could the Swan and the button be used as punishment for The Others? Perhaps Calvin was an Other and exiled to The Swan for doing something wrong? When Desmond came along, he had companionship and Desmond just got lured in with stories of what would happen if the button wasn't pushed. That would explain why Desmond ran off when the Lostaways showed up (escape). And why we haven't seen or heard from him since. Perhaps he's with The Others. Then again, if they exiled Calvin there as punishment, could they trust him to stay and push the button? It's a pretty comfy place and would be quite attractive over taking his chances alone in the jungle. Or, do the leaders know that the button is just a scam and so it doesn't really matter?
Just thinking out loud...
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but then if they are broadcasting a spy code out, where is it going out to? who is on the receiving end? the spy idea also ties in with the US army 25 years ago reference. the cold war. maybe at the height of paranoia this station was created?
ah... more questions. everything's back to normal. :)
More meanderings...I really need to get to work!!! :eek:
When I was reading up on Numbers Stations, the theory is that the transmissions happen at regular intervals or at pre-scheduled times. So, maybe putting the numbers into the computer every 108 minutes is the backup for the radio transmission. It fits the bill of regular transmissions. Or maybe it's not a backup but it's another form of numbers station generated by computer instead of shortwave radio. As civilians, we don't know that shortwave is the only means of getting these messages out. Maybe they're also sent out from one computer to another (or to several).
So, if the code is missed being input into the computer that would mean something to someone. It would start a chain of events that would lead to....I don't know....something.
I keep thinking about this Al Stewart song called Night Train To Munich, about spies during the coldwar. The first few verses and chorus are...
Meet me at the station underneath the clock
Carry an umbrella, no need to talk
The man in the homburg, hiding in the fog
Will be watching
Get yourself a ticket, go through the gate
At seven forty-five precisely, don't be late
If anybody follows don't hesitate
Keep on walking
And take the night train to Munich
Rumbling down the track
After half an hour in the restaurant car
Look for the conductor
And there will be a stain on his tunic
A paper underneath his arm
Then you'd better pray that he doesn't look away
Or you'll never, never, never come back.
So maybe if they don't type the code into the computer, the Conductor will look away (metaphorically speaking).
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You know everytime that I go back to season one, I discover more clues and great stuff. Season two, in comparison, has been pretty lame.
What does DBT mean?
So, some thoughts on computers and meeting The Others. We know that The Others have a computer. And we know that computer can communicate with the computer in the Swan bunker. So, can The Others communicate with the outside world? Before the plane crash, were The Others in control of the Swan? Is that how they got a new washer and dryer and more food for Desmond? And if that's true, why give up the bunker so easily? Is the place that they live even better, so giving up the Swan is no great loss? Or, are they just glad to be rid of the responsibility of the 108 minute button?
Could the Swan and the button be used as punishment for The Others? Perhaps Calvin was an Other and exiled to The Swan for doing something wrong? When Desmond came along, he had companionship and Desmond just got lured in with stories of what would happen if the button wasn't pushed. That would explain why Desmond ran off when the Lostaways showed up (escape). And why we haven't seen or heard from him since. Perhaps he's with The Others. Then again, if they exiled Calvin there as punishment, could they trust him to stay and push the button? It's a pretty comfy place and would be quite attractive over taking his chances alone in the jungle. Or, do the leaders know that the button is just a scam and so it doesn't really matter?
Just thinking out loud...
dbt = double blind test, where basically to insure accurate results that arent tainted by either the subject knowing what the a/b switching might be, and the person doing the switching between a/b doesnt know what they are either. i.e. if you're trying to test between coke and pepsi, the subject obviously doesnt know which cup contains what, but also the other person also doesnt know which cup contains coke or pepsi so that they dont influence the decision at all either (i think, i might be wrong but i think thats the basics).
i dont think the Others have been in the swan station. as much as the others claim this as their island, i think there's another force at work. desmond was certainly paranoid enough after the explosion to the hatch, and the station is set up to monitor all the entrances from one point with all those mirror/periscope thingys. so the station, as was also stated, is meant for just two people. desmond and calvin. now when desmond arrived, he said (trying to remember) they brought me here and calvin was already down here, or something to that effect, have to go back and watch that episode. which 'they' brought him, the others? the remains of dharma? (or greg, haha, sorry, that was horrible but i couldnt resist) the us army? i dont think desmond is an other as much as he was drawn to the island by the numbers and then stuck down there just like the losties are now. and in the three years he was down there, calvin died/was killed/murdered/etc? but in the three years he was down there, someone/something brought them food because of the hurley comment. Unless, the only other stretch was they had enough foor for 3 years and 3 months and that food really was the last of everything that was in the bunker. plus i dont think the others are in any of the bunkers. or at least any bunker with soap and water capabilities. desmond was certainly in fine enough shape, and the first thing kate did was take a shower (sulpher comment there might mean something too).
ugh.
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More meanderings...I really need to get to work!!! :eek:
When I was reading up on Numbers Stations, the theory is that the transmissions happen at regular intervals or at pre-scheduled times. So, maybe putting the numbers into the computer every 108 minutes is the backup for the radio transmission. It fits the bill of regular transmissions. Or maybe it's not a backup but it's another form of numbers station generated by computer instead of shortwave radio. As civilians, we don't know that shortwave is the only means of getting these messages out. Maybe they're also sent out from one computer to another (or to several).
So, if the code is missed being input into the computer that would mean something to someone. It would start a chain of events that would lead to....I don't know....something.
ok, now this is cool stuff. that coincides exactly with what is seemingly going on in the bunker. i think they need to ask a few more questions, especially to danielle and desmond. OH WAIT! Thought just popped into my head as i was typing...
danielle told sayid (or hurley?) that they were brought to the island by the numbers. by a radio transmission that was sending the numbers out!! they followed it to this island, and she went and changed the transmission to her signal! so that means the island is NOT sending the #'s out every 108 minutes now? but is sending her signal out? for the past 16 years? with no one ever hearing it, which could mean that whoever is on the receiving end of that signal is no longer there, or is laughing there butt off as to how this experiment is proceeding (thinking out loud too now). the losties need to find that antennae. like charlie said... "Where are we?" that number had been sent out via the antennae prior to the french woman's crash there. then after everyone died, she switched it to her signal. so that means by the time desmond got on the island, the numbers were not being transmitted out. at least not by THAT antennae.
they should be able to figure out where they are right? how far do radio signals travel? we could get a radius of where they might be... i.e. if they are in a circle of say 500 miles, then how many 500 mile circles are there in the world where there is no human contact? or at least no human with a radio? assuming that the rest of the world still exists, or that they are even on this world.
hmm.... the hamster wheel in my head is spinning...
and yeah, season 1 was definitely stronger. the denoument of this season better pick up and salvage the season with a major WTF. it feels like its been a little slow this season, which i think might be (hopefully) because its gonna kick into high gear. i think season 2 is gonna end at the eve of a war between the others and the losties
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It's funny, when I was watching last nights episode I too realized how much better season one was.
It was interesting to realize that Locke had a prior relationship with Claire, before Charlie was really in the picture. Building the crib was a really sweet gesture and it kind of ties together how he's somewhat protective, in a fatherly sorta way, of Claire and Aaron now.
OK, so the numbers are cursed. They were being broadcast from this island and everyone that has heard them has suffered severe misfortune. Hurley, the insane dude (Sam?), the insane dude's Aussie friend in the military, and the French gal. Don't mistake luck for fate, eh? The show has kind of gotten away from it's cryptic nature, such as the numbers, and has gone for more straight forward story lines via losties vs. others. I, for one, prefer the mystery.
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ok, now this is cool stuff. that coincides exactly with what is seemingly going on in the bunker. i think they need to ask a few more questions, especially to danielle and desmond. OH WAIT! Thought just popped into my head as i was typing...
danielle told sayid (or hurley?) that they were brought to the island by the numbers. by a radio transmission that was sending the numbers out!! they followed it to this island, and she went and changed the transmission to her signal! so that means the island is NOT sending the #'s out every 108 minutes now? but is sending her signal out? for the past 16 years?
Not necessarily. We don't know how often the radio transmission of the numbers was being sent out. It might have been every 108 minutes, but it might not have been. We only know that it WAS sending out the numbers and not it's not. And we know that the numbers have to be typed into the computer every 108 minutes approximately. Because the numbers in the computer are a manual input, the time cannot be exact every time. The alarm starts sounding with 4 minutes left. So the numbers are input somewhere between every 104 and 107.59 minutes. Although it is interesting (and fits the numbers station theory) that the numbers cannot be input before the alarm goes off.
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with no one ever hearing it, which could mean that whoever is on the receiving end of that signal is no longer there, or is laughing there butt off as to how this experiment is proceeding (thinking out loud too now).
That's a good point...is there anybody listening?
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the losties need to find that antennae. like charlie said... "Where are we?" that number had been sent out via the antennae prior to the french woman's crash there. then after everyone died, she switched it to her signal. so that means by the time desmond got on the island, the numbers were not being transmitted out. at least not by THAT antennae.
Another good point. Why aren't they looking for the radio tower anymore? Last night she told Hurley that it was near the Black Rock. They found the Black Rock (it's where they got the dinomite to blow open the hatch) but why didn't they look for the radio tower? Or did they and something happened that I've forgotten?
I too am hoping that the season picks up in the second half. I think that all of these reruns are having a dragging effect on the stories also, which is certainly not helping. We had better see some solid consecutive weeks of good story lines coming up.
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OK, so the numbers are cursed. They were being broadcast from this island and everyone that has heard them has suffered severe misfortune. Hurley, the insane dude (Sam?), the insane dude's Aussie friend in the military, and the French gal. Don't mistake luck for fate, eh? The show has kind of gotten away from it's cryptic nature, such as the numbers, and has gone for more straight forward story lines via losties vs. others. I, for one, prefer the mystery.
The only thing that doesn't jive here is Desmond. So far, we don't have a connection with him and the numbers. The only connection we have is that he and Jack once crossed paths, but that was at least three years ago, based on the fact that he had been in the bunker for three years prior to Jack's arrival.
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The only thing that doesn't jive here is Desmond. So far, we don't have a connection with him and the numbers. The only connection we have is that he and Jack once crossed paths, but that was at least three years ago, based on the fact that he had been in the bunker for three years prior to Jack's arrival.
so.... does the war begin tonight? sun is kidnapped (it seems) from the trailer at least. and the rain/the others connection? is there one?
are the others linked somehow to the climate of the island? i hope they get back to the mystical nature of the island and maybe get a little distance from the concrete scientific explanations of things, the way its been heading.
any case.... excited! new episode!!! woo hoo!!!
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so.... does the war begin tonight? sun is kidnapped (it seems) from the trailer at least. and the rain/the others connection? is there one?
are the others linked somehow to the climate of the island? i hope they get back to the mystical nature of the island and maybe get a little distance from the concrete scientific explanations of things, the way its been heading.
any case.... excited! new episode!!! woo hoo!!!
On the Canadian preview, Kate and Sawyer are standing under a tarp in the rain and the preview made it look like they were about to kiss (but of course we know that the previews are misleading) only to be interupted by Sun's scream. Sawyer and Kate run towards her and rescue her. Kate tells Jack that Sun's hands were tied together. Is it The Others? For some reason, I think that it's something else...not The Others. Don't ask me why, just a hunch.
Zeke promised that they would leave the Lostaways alone if they stay on their own side of the island. So, why would they now break that promise and try to kidnap Sun? It just doesn't make sense to me. There's something else going on here IMO.
As for The Others and the rain...the rain would wash away any tracks.
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On the Canadian preview, Kate and Sawyer are standing under a tarp in the rain and the preview made it look like they were about to kiss (but of course we know that the previews are misleading) only to be interupted by Sun's scream. Sawyer and Kate run towards her and rescue her. Kate tells Jack that Sun's hands were tied together. Is it The Others? For some reason, I think that it's something else...not The Others. Don't ask me why, just a hunch.
Zeke promised that they would leave the Lostaways alone if they stay on their own side of the island. So, why would they now break that promise and try to kidnap Sun? It just doesn't make sense to me. There's something else going on here IMO.
As for The Others and the rain...the rain would wash away any tracks.
Oooooooooooooo! i know it's going to be a red herring, but the trailer for next week's episode! Oooooooooo!!!!!!
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On the Canadian preview, Kate and Sawyer are standing under a tarp in the rain and the preview made it look like they were about to kiss (but of course we know that the previews are misleading) only to be interupted by Sun's scream. Sawyer and Kate run towards her and rescue her. Kate tells Jack that Sun's hands were tied together. Is it The Others? For some reason, I think that it's something else...not The Others. Don't ask me why, just a hunch.
Zeke promised that they would leave the Lostaways alone if they stay on their own side of the island. So, why would they now break that promise and try to kidnap Sun? It just doesn't make sense to me. There's something else going on here IMO.
As for The Others and the rain...the rain would wash away any tracks.
Looks like I called that one right. Although, I did not see that powershift to Sawyer coming. However, it all makes perfect sense that Sawyer would want to get back at Jack and Charlie at Locke. Will Sayid go over to their side for the opportunity to get even with Ana Lucia? Where will Locke land, he's not a big fan of either Jack's or Sawyer's. And where has our friend Mr. Echo been hiding the past couple of weeks? It's going to get interesting now that our group are turning on each other. The experiment takes a wild turn. :D
There was no preview for next week here. Fill me in, fill me in! :confused: :( :mad:
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Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
Looks like I called that one right. Although, I did not see that powershift to Sawyer coming. However, it all makes perfect sense that Sawyer would want to get back at Jack and Charlie at Locke. Will Sayid go over to their side for the opportunity to get even with Ana Lucia? Where will Locke land, he's not a big fan of either Jack's or Sawyer's. And where has our friend Mr. Echo been hiding the past couple of weeks? It's going to get interesting now that our group are turning on each other. The experiment takes a wild turn. :D
There was no preview for next week here. Fill me in, fill me in! :confused: :( :mad:
its all a blur now! crap... ok... oh OH!! that's what it was, they have some trap left in the woods, and somebody springs it, they all rush over... and its none of them... they catch one of the Others!he has some arrowhead sticking out of his shoulder as they start to ask him questions, and they show sayid all serious with his 'i am a torturer' line to the guy, and then locke or jack saying, 'what are you going to do to him' and then sayid slamming the door to the room in his face to leave him alone with the Other dude. all the while.... the countdown is happening and jack pins locke to the wall and says, what's going to happen locke! and... 'lets see what really happens!" and then we see the counter go... 0002, 0001, 0000!!!!!!!!!!!
argh!!!!!!
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...and from what time...
Of all the things in tonite's episode, the one thing that really stood out to me was Hurley's question about the Sentimental Mood broadcast they were picking up. He asked "and what time" (or something like that). You just KNOW this is going to come up somewhere. This island has a way of ignoring time. How else do you explain the Pirate ship or the crashed plane that started out in Africa?!? "Time" is going to factor into this, watch.
Great backstory on Sawyer tonite. He takes self-loathing to a whole different level. I didn't see the Charlie connection coming, but as I've mentioned before, I never did like that weasel. Now I don't like him even more. Fracturing the surviors into two tribes (hey, is that Jeff Probst riding the polar bear?) is a very cool twist. Here I thought it was going to be the survivors vs. the others. Now the Others can pull up a chair, pop open a cold one, and watch everyone around them disintegrate. Get the feeling they knew this would happen ;)?
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Originally Posted by topspeed
Of all the things in tonite's episode, the one thing that really stood out to me was Hurley's question about the Sentimental Mood broadcast they were picking up. He asked "and what time" (or something like that). You just KNOW this is going to come up somewhere. This island has a way of ignoring time. How else do you explain the Pirate ship or the crashed plane that started out in Africa?!? "Time" is going to factor into this, watch.
Great backstory on Sawyer tonite. He takes self-loathing to a whole different level. I didn't see the Charlie connection coming, but as I've mentioned before, I never did like that weasel. Now I don't like him even more. Fracturing the surviors into two tribes (hey, is that Jeff Probst riding the polar bear?) is a very cool twist. Here I thought it was going to be the survivors vs. the others. Now the Others can pull up a chair, pop open a cold one, and watch everyone around them disintegrate. Get the feeling they knew this would happen ;)?
Yeah, I caught that comment from Hurley too. It also made me wonder.
Go to this site http://www.lostlinks.net/ and click on the One Of Them link under "Next On Lost". It will show the trailer for next week's episode. When you see the person that's captured... a face though the net...I think it's Desmond! Watch the link closely and tell me what you think.
Edit: Screen caps from another site. Definately looks like Desmond to me.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x14/preview03.jpg
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x14/preview01.jpg
Edit2: I just read on another site that the waitress in the restaurant where Sawyer and his partner met, was Kate's mom. Another pre-crash link.
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