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    James Bond is one of the most important film franchises is movie history. If you are ignorant to that fact than shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    James Bond is one of the most important film franchises is movie history. If you are ignorant to that fact than shame on you.

    And Velveeta is one of, if not THE top selling soft cheese in the world. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    Hmmm, it's very interesting that the tide seems to flow in favor of Bourne...and yet Bond leads 6 to 4. Perhaps some of the other Double O's have voted without posting or should we count the chads?
    No. 8 to 4. The sensible people here have voted their conscience and the others just don't feel the need to echo our sentiments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66Lincoln
    No way Bourne even comes close to what Bonds is.
    Care to elaborate your outlandish claim? Bourne would eat Bond for breakfast, and probably not even break a sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
    Care to elaborate your outlandish claim? Bourne would eat Bond for breakfast, and probably not even break a sweat.
    Well considering both are fictional characters that's a bit hard to determine, but if you go strictly by popularity and track record I think it's pretty obvious that Bond is far more favorable, influential, and more entertaining. You can't judge Bond on the last few Bond movies, you have to look at the broad scheme of things and 21 major motion pictures is quite a franchise to be reckoned with...can you think of any other series that have gone on this long????

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    You're comparing ticket sales to characters. Kind of like comparing apples to the Chrysler Building. Character vs. character, I think Bourne would prevail in the end. Daniel Craig's Bond was probably the toughest of them all, even moreso than Connery's. He still didn't show me anything that could compare to Bourne's skill set (or is it "kill" set? ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    You're comparing ticket sales to characters. Kind of like comparing apples to the Chrysler Building. Character vs. character, I think Bourne would prevail in the end. Daniel Craig's Bond was probably the toughest of them all, even moreso than Connery's. He still didn't show me anything that could compare to Bourne's skill set (or is it "kill" set? ).
    The bottom line is that if you were to poll a bunch of people and asked them to name the best movies or series regarding espionage...the word BOND would come up long before BOURNE and BOURNE would probably even fall behind MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. I am not rating the characters as if this is some sort of celebrity death match, this is about the guts of the films. BOND has become an icon and one of the most imitated and influential series EVER created. Just think about those silhouetted Apple iPod commercials...looks rather similar to the opening credits of those Bond flicks huh? BOND is a legacy and that legacy has played out in many more opportunities and because of that fact, Bond is at this point superior to Bourne. Besides, if you were to actually compare their characters it's insane to think that Matt Damon could pull off those physical abilities, at least Bond was a bit more realistic and had better gadgets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    BOND is a legacy and that legacy has played out in many more opportunities and because of that fact, Bond is at this point superior to Bourne. Besides, if you were to actually compare their characters it's insane to think that Matt Damon could pull off those physical abilities, at least Bond was a bit more realistic and had better gadgets.
    Actually, I can't argue with the legacy of Bond. He, as you have pointed out been around much longer, and sustained himself fairly well. However I don't belive the OP was polling for that...it really wouldn't make much sense to do that. I think the OP was asking who was the better (and perhaps more deadly) character.

    If that was the OP's intent, Bourne is much better, and frankly more competent in his profession. Bond would be lost without his special equipment (think Batman). Bourne relies more on the materials available in his enviornment (Think hardcover book...priceless).

    As far as physical action, I think both characters exceed actual physical limits, but its still a hoot to watch.

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    I can't believe everybody is so hung up on the Bond legacy, movie sales figures, and the Bond flair. The question was quite simple: if you needed a "difficult" job done, who would most likely come through?

    It's Bourne. He has more whoop-a$$ then the new Bond.

    And if you musty wine and yammer about legacy, then compare Bond after three movies, 'cause that's all we have of Bourne. That would put you back to 1964 with Goldfinger. I doubt that even a young Connery could even get out the door before Bourne would be done with the job.

    Not fair? OK, then compare the new Bond to Bourne after the first movie, I'd still say Bourne would be the better bet, hands down.

    'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
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    And if you musty wine and yammer about legacy, then compare Bond after three movies, 'cause that's all we have of Bourne. That would put you back to 1964 with Goldfinger. I doubt that even a young Connery could even get out the door before Bourne would be done with the job.

    'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.
    Ok, and then go back to 1964 and see how big of a buzz Bond was. You see, Bourne is new and current and so it's not uncommon for the new trick in town to be popular and everyone ride on the bandwagon, but let's move ahead to the year 2050 and see if Bourne is just as popular as Dr. NO, GOLDFINGER, and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE still are...they are still one of the best selling DVD's on the market...hands down.

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    Bond has the ability to think on his feet. There were times when brute force wasn't going to save his ass, and his gadgets got him out of the tight situation. Bourne without gadgets in these same situations is a dead duck!
    Not only that but Bond can do almost anything from flying jet fighters and tanks to seducing women to pump valuable information from them. And Bond is very lucky, he always finds an out that would be certain death for anyone else.
    Head to head in a fight Bourne would probably win, but Bond is much more resourceful. This attribute makes him much more dangerous that Bourne, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wireworm5
    Bond has the ability to think on his feet. There were times when brute force wasn't going to save his ass, and his gadgets got him out of the tight situation. Bourne without gadgets in these same situations is a dead duck!
    Not only that but Bond can do almost anything from flying jet fighters and tanks to seducing women to pump valuable information from them. And Bond is very lucky, he always finds an out that would be certain death for anyone else.
    Head to head in a fight Bourne would probably win, but Bond is much more resourceful. This attribute makes him much more dangerous that Bourne, IMO.
    Well said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
    'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.
    Looks like they did. Bond is ahead 2 to 1

    I think one thing that might have got over looked about the Bond is "charm" of his character. I have not seen any of Bourne movies, but I don't think he will win over Bond as far as charm factor is concerned.

    The most charming Bond was Roger Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Looks like they did. Bond is ahead 2 to 1

    I think one thing that might have got over looked about the Bond is "charm" of his character. I have not seen any of Bourne movies, but I don't think he will win over Bond as far as charm factor is concerned.

    The most charming Bond was Roger Moore.
    Any movie that can make the crossbow cool again (a la FOR YOUR EYES ONLY) is certainly a film worthy to remember! Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.
    Speaking of Bond theme songs, who can forget Shirley Bassey's "Gold Finger", Duran Duran's "A View To Kill" or Sheryl Crow's "Tomorrow Never Dies."

    I just downloaded all three [mp3] songs, for free

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    Speaking of Bond theme songs, who can forget Shirley Bassey's "Gold Finger", Duran Duran's "A View To Kill" or Sheryl Crow's "Tomorrow Never Dies."

    I just downloaded all three [mp3] songs, for free
    Absolutely! Someone already commented on how we are 'hung up on the legacy of Bond' but I don't really think that anyone can accurate argue the vitality of this character. Not only that, but it's influence has spread far and wide and the Bond movies became an 'event' to behold. Now the more recent ones have failed to live up to the standards of the Bond franchise, but for the most part, the Bond movies are just flat-out non-stop entertainment. The films also had some of the best production value with loads of money on-screen, which is rarely experienced today. Rest assure that when it came to Bond top dollar was being spent and put on the screen. Action sequences, exotic automobiles, and top performances, plus the theme songs, which were always done by some of the best acts around. These have become the cornerstone of the Bond franchise.

    Again, it's hard to compare the actual two figures if they were to 'rumble' and such because the various Bond actors were all different and we don't have much to go on. Plus, we are also talking about 40+ years of Bond, which also means that technology has changed drastically too, and it's interesting that many of the Bond gadgets are now everyday devices.

    Bourne is here and now...high entertainment and all, but Bond is legendary, classic, and one of the most influential, imitated, and memorable film characters of all time.

    Then again I am a huge Bond fan, so maybe I am biased, but I think that I have presented my case fairly well looking at all the facts.

    Here is a graphic to justify the coolness of Bond and the iconic nature of the hero.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    Any movie that can make the crossbow cool again (a la FOR YOUR EYES ONLY) is certainly a film worthy to remember! Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.
    How exactly does this answer the question of the original post? This is exactly what I'm talking about. The movie franchise, the fancy cars, script-written luck, the pop songs, the box office successes, crossbows, a picture of a woman's silhouette - how will any of these things affect how successful Bond will be on the job? Nothing. And don't get me started on the cool gadgets - that's exactly why Bourne would succeed because he can kill with a book or a pen whereas bond needs a button to push.

    I'm not a bond-hater, folks. I own every single one of Flemming's novels, including a biography of the man. But let's be honest: who would be more resourceful with less? Who is stronger, faster, and smarter? Who is able to outsmart not just the bad guys but also the good guys? Who doesn't make mistakes? That's right - it's Bourne.

    So Bond has prettier chicks, you say? How will hat help him get the job done? He has a more expensive car? That will be a detriment on city streets, where a beat-up Fiat will go much further. He's better looking and wears nicer clothes? How will that help him blend in? I wonder how long Bond would last with all of MI6 was on his a$$. Bourne lasted three films, with a 4th on the way.

    Let's call a spade a spade, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    I caught The Bourne Ultimatum this past week and found it lived up to the hype. I'm a big fan of the Bourne trilogy, and was completely satisfied with the closure of the series. Not as much character development as Bourne Identity, but at this juncture you have to wonder if they really need it. Everyone knows who Jason Bourne is except, well... Jason Bourne.

    Ahh, but that is not the point of this poll. The question is: If you were a high powered Politico and needed some "fixing" to be done, who would you hire? Bond or Bourne? For arguments sake, let's make this the Daniel Craig version as he is the most similar to Bourne. Shoot first and all that.

    Do you pick Bond, with his suave demeanor and cool toys

    OR

    Do you go with Bourne's Jeet Kune Do lethality and seemingly limitless skill set?

    The fate of the free world rests with your decision.
    This is such a difficult question because you are limiting Bond by only one film, despite the fact that there is an entire franchise 21-strong and such. Therefore, limiting this to just the most recent Bond vs. the Bourne films (3-total and 1 telefilm) certainly makes for controversy, which has already ensued.

    Obviously both are fictional characters and this is a hypothetical question in which no one could possibly be right or wrong and there are too many factors to consider to come to any conclusion other than just a flat out opinion, to which most people at this point still prefer Bond, according to our trusty poll.

    Let's also not forget that CASINO ROYALE is the young James Bond, who is not nearly as experienced as our latter-day Bonds, which also limit his abilities as well. So again, there are just too many factors to really come up with a true winner, but on preference and opinion alone...I am sticking with Bond. Also, a great video game!

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    It's unfortunate that only a few people actually caught the gist of the poll, although I certainly can't argue with the ensuing debate. At least it got y'all talking, which is the point of a forum, isn't it .

    To be clear, this isn't about legacy, ticket sales, or which Bond is best. I choose the latest Bond simply because he was the most competitive with Bourne. Moore's, Dalton's, and Brosnan's Bond simply weren't as tough as Craig's.

    If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position.

    Not sell the most movie tickets.

    Not drive the most exotic car.

    Not nail the hottest chick.

    See, it's not that hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    It's unfortunate that only a few people actually caught the gist of the poll, although I certainly can't argue with the ensuing debate. At least it got y'all talking, which is the point of a forum, isn't it .

    To be clear, this isn't about legacy, ticket sales, or which Bond is best. I choose the latest Bond simply because he was the most competitive with Bourne. Moore's, Dalton's, and Brosnan's Bond simply weren't as tough as Craig's.

    If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position.

    Not sell the most movie tickets.

    Not drive the most exotic car.

    Not nail the hottest chick.

    See, it's not that hard.
    Right the question isn't hard, but it's almost like asking us to forget everything we know about Bond to answer the question....kinda like asking someone to forget what the color orange looks like. Make sense?

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    I don't want to sound like PS's "yes man", but things like the Bond legacy weighed heavily in my vote. I agree with him that it's hard to rule out that type of influence from the equation.

    And just to prove I'm not his Yes Man... PS, try to trim down the pic's before you post them okay? I hate scrolling left-n-right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I don't want to sound like PS's "yes man", but things like the Bond legacy weighed heavily in my vote. I agree with him that it's hard to rule out that type of influence from the equation.

    And just to prove I'm not his Yes Man... PS, try to trim down the pic's before you post them okay? I hate scrolling left-n-right!
    It doesn't fit on your screen? That's odd. It fits on mine...17" laptop...I think the image was around 500X500 pix...that's not huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position..

    Which is why I reiterate that if left to a choice between the two I would take Bond(Craig) but would really rather find an alternative.

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    We Done Yet???

    Just like most polls around these parts...this sucker has exceded it's life expectancy and now seems to be dry as can be. Just wanted to check and see if there might be any last minute votes...if not BOND WINS.....go home Bourne Losers! Get it....

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    If I needed to kick someone's a** - Bourne
    If I need someone to find a piece of a**-Bond


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