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I don't think that the POV winner can be nominated. Otherwise, why would you EVER risk using the POV to save someone else? I think that no matter what happens Jameka is going home. No-one will use the POV to save Jameka. If Eric wins he'll save Jessica. Zach will put up Dick, and Jameka will go home. If Daniele, Dick or Zach win, they'll leave the nominess as they are. The only chance Jameka has is to win the POV. Otherwise she's toast.
Jameka can play for HOH this week. That makes her more of a threat now. Its one more person for Eric, Jessica, Daniele and Dick to compete against and potentially lose control of the house. Therefore, if she doesn't win POV then they would be stupid to not vote her out.
They won't find out that's its a double elimination night until the next HOH is named. Then Julie will tell that HOH that they will have to name their nominations right away and the house will vote right away. At least that's how it's been done in the past.
If Jameka is gone, then the only people competing for HOH will be D&D and E&J. If any of those four win, they will nominate Zach and a member of the other pair. Zach will go home and the final four will be D&D&E&J.
If Jameka wins POV, it will change everything and will be very interesting. I think, in that case, that Zack will strike a deal with Dick and Daniele for final three. Then he'll put up Eric and get rid of either Jessica or Eric.
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I've decided that I don't like this whole "America's Player" vote for eviction. I don't think that it leads to fair play. Although Eric managed to work it in his favour right up until the end, it cost both Nick and Jessica their positions in the house when Eric wasn't allowed to vote the way that he wanted to.
If BB wants America to have a vote then I would rather see them be up front about it and give America a vote that counts in the eviction without negating a house guest's vote. So if there are six people in the house allowed to vote there will actually be seven votes counted, including America's vote.
BTW, I guess I was wrong to believe that D&D would keep their word and the final four would include Eric and Jes. But that also proves my above point... if Eric had been able to keep Amber like Jess wanted, they might still be in it. Although, IMPO, I think it was a dumb move to keep Jameka and Zach. They are both very strong. D&D would have had a better chance to win competitions and win the money if they were up against Eric. He's totally useless in competitions.
I'd still like to see Dick win. I think that he's a great manipulator and was totally the underdog coming into the game. The fact that he's still in the house is amazing.
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I've decided that I don't like this whole "America's Player" vote for eviction. I don't think that it leads to fair play. Although Eric managed to work it in his favour right up until the end, it cost both Nick and Jessica their positions in the house when Eric wasn't allowed to vote the way that he wanted to.
It does let America feel like they are part of the game. It screws up the integrity of the process though. It's hard to tell which mean's more to the general viewers.
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If BB wants America to have a vote then I would rather see them be up front about it and give America a vote that counts in the eviction without negating a house guest's vote. So if there are six people in the house allowed to vote there will actually be seven votes counted, including America's vote.
That could be cool, but what about all the other things they were able to get Eric to do? Mustard on Jen's clothes, kissing Jess (he may not have made that move without a push from the viewers. America has been pushing that relationship along in some ways. Giving her "his woobe". Swearing his allegiants to her till the end. All things that American got him to do)
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BTW, I guess I was wrong to believe that D&D would keep their word and the final four would include Eric and Jess. But that also proves my above point... if Eric had been able to keep Amber like Jess wanted, they might still be in it. Although, IMPO, I think it was a dumb move to keep Jameka and Zach. They are both very strong. D&D would have had a better chance to win competitions and win the money if they were up against Eric. He's totally useless in competitions.
Oh yeah, you should never have believed them. They have broken every word that they have given out so far (except for Zach, and that was just for themselves more than to keep their word) They are playing the game like Wal-Mart does business, for themselves.)
True Eric isn't very good under pressure. And I would have rather seen Eric & Jess around a little longer to see their relationship grow. Did you see that she didn't wait for him to kiss her this time? She just went straight for his lips. If either E.D. or Daniel are in it at they end, neither will get many votes unless they are in it together.
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I'd still like to see Dick win. I think that he's a great manipulator and was totally the underdog coming into the game. The fact that he's still in the house is amazing.
Daniel did a good job of manipulating Zach the last two week. That apple hasn't fallen too far from the tree. But she's a lot more sneaky about it. She stabs people in the back while E.D. just stabs them right in the chest. He likes to give it a little twist while it's in there too. Some people may hold a grudge against him in the end. I guess we'll see if they are the last two.
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If BB wants America to have a vote then I would rather see them be up front about it and give America a vote that counts in the eviction without negating a house guest's vote. So if there are six people in the house allowed to vote there will actually be seven votes counted, including America's vote.
The more I think about this idea, the more I like it. It would be a wild card vote that could keep alliances from dominating and controlling evictions.
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Daniel did a good job of manipulating Zach the last two week. That apple hasn't fallen too far from the tree. But she's a lot more sneaky about it. She stabs people in the back while E.D. just stabs them right in the chest. He likes to give it a little twist while it's in there too. Some people may hold a grudge against him in the end. I guess we'll see if they are the last two.
You're right. She did do a good job with Zach. Both of them (D&D) have played the game really well. I don't think that Daniele would still be around, however, if Dick hadn't used the POV on her a few weeks back. Whereas Dick has managed to talk his way out of being voted out every time...in spite of the fact that no-one really likes him.
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You're right. She did do a good job with Zach. Both of them (D&D) have played the game really well. I don't think that Daniele would still be around, however, if Dick hadn't used the POV on her a few weeks back. Whereas Dick has managed to talk his way out of being voted out every time...in spite of the fact that no-one really likes him.
Yeah, he's very good at talking people into making deals with him when he needs them. Not so good at keeping those deals after he's used them, and now needs someone else's help. But those kinds of dealings tend to catch up to a person eventually. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. " Scotty in STII, The Wrath of Kahn.
I like him, but I'm not so sure how the people he has betrayed feel about him. Daniel has betrayed a few people too. But she's been a little more sly about it. I don't think that people feel as much animosity toward her as they do Dick.
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Ladies, I am impressed and horrified at the same time that you two have been able to track the minute by minute happenings on BB.
Big Brother? Are you two serious?:shocked: You went from Lost, to Big Brother?
JSE walks into room, smashes the hell out of the watercooler with a baseball bat. The watercooler should not be subjected to Big Brother talk. I put the cooler out of it's misery! :ciappa:
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Ladies, I am impressed and horrified at the same time that you two have been able to track the minute by minute happenings on BB.
Big Brother? Are you two serious?:shocked: You went from Lost, to Big Brother?
JSE walks into room, smashes the hell out of the watercooler with a baseball bat. The watercooler should not be subjected to Big Brother talk. I put the cooler out of it's misery! :ciappa:
Ladies? Is there something about GMichael that I don't know?
It's not our fault. No Lost until 2008? I mean, really, what do you expect us to do? Desperate times call for desparate measures. Now you know just how desparate we really are. :frown2:
I need help. I can admit it.
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Yeah, he's very good at talking people into making deals with him when he needs them. Not so good at keeping those deals after he's used them, and now needs someone else's help.
That's the point of the game. He/She who can lie and manipulate the best wins. Anyone who's watched the show and then goes on the show thinking that they can trust ANYONE, is just plain stupid.
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That's the point of the game. He/She who can lie and manipulate the best wins. Anyone who's watched the show and then goes on the show thinking that they can trust ANYONE, is just plain stupid.
I agree, but he's also gone above and beyond to piss people off. That's not the best way to make lasting friends who will vote for you in the end.
Daniel has done a good job of being just as untrustworthy, but without showing that side of her to the people in the show. At least, not as much as Dick has.
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Ladies? Is there something about GMichael that I don't know?
It's not our fault. No Lost until 2008? I mean, really, what do you expect us to do? Desperate times call for desparate measures. Now you know just how desparate we really are. :frown2:
I need help. I can admit it.
He's just saying that anyone who watches this show must either be a woman, or a woman wanna-be.
(GM hold his head down in shame and walks out of the room)
(GM returns carying a new plastic water cooler)
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He's just saying that anyone who watches this show must either be a woman, or a woman wanna-be.
And that's supposed to be a bad thing...how exactly? :mad5:
JSE! Shame on you! :nono:
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And that's supposed to be a bad thing...how exactly? :mad5:
JSE! Shame on you! :nono:
It's a guy thing.
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I agree, but he's also gone above and beyond to piss people off. That's not the best way to make lasting friends who will vote for you in the end.
True, but it does make great TV! How boring would the show be if the final four were Eric, Jessica, Amber and Jameka. We'd have to watch Jessica make googoo eyes at Eric who's too inept to know a sure thing when he sees it, and Amber and Jameka hold their own little PTL Club with a sideshow of tears.
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True, but it does make great TV! How boring would the show be if the final four were Eric, Jessica, Amber and Jameka. We'd have to watch Jessica make googoo eyes at Eric who's too inept to know a sure thing when he sees it, and Amber and Jameka hold their own little PTL Club with a sideshow of tears.
Couldn't agree more.
Is it time for LOST yet?
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Is it time for LOST yet?
I wish! I just got the S3 tapes back from my sister-in-law, so I'm going to rewatch S3.
I can't wait for S4. We finally got our new TV and I can't wait to watch Lost in HD!
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He's just saying that anyone who watches this show must either be a woman, or a woman wanna-be.
(GM hold his head down in shame and walks out of the room)
(GM returns carying a new plastic water cooler)
More like you two sound like ladies talking about their favorite soap opera .
I expected more from both of you. :nonod:
JSE walks back in room with a shotgun loaded with buckshot........ Kaboooom, ping, ding, boyng, ping, boyng, ding, ping................................. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! My Ass!
Damn you GMichael and your bullet proof watercooler bottle! :cryin:
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More like you two sound like ladies talking about their favorite soap opera .
I expected more from both of you. :nonod:
JSE walks back in room with a shotgun loaded with buckshot........ Kaboooom, ping, ding, boyng, ping, boyng, ding, ping................................. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! My Ass!
Damn you GMichael and your bullet proof watercooler bottle! :cryin:
Good one.
Hope you got a good doctor, cause I sure as h.ll am not digging those out of your a$$.
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It's all scripted anyway... :rolleyes:
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More like you two sound like ladies talking about their favorite soap opera .
I expected more from both of you. :nonod:
So, I guess that you'd be really disappointed in me if I told you that I've watched the Young and the Restless almost every day for over 20 years.
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So, I guess that you'd be really disappointed in me if I told you that I've watched the Young and the Restless almost every day for over 20 years.
You started watching when you were 5?
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So, I guess that you'd be really disappointed in me if I told you that I've watched the Young and the Restless almost every day for over 20 years.
20 years? There are only only a few things I have done every day for the past 20 years and ironically, they are things I associate with shows like the Young and the Restless. :ihih:
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20 years? There are only only a few things I have done every day for the past 20 years and ironically, they are things I associate with shows like the Young and the Restless. :ihih:
You sleep with your brother's, wife's, cousin's, mailman?
Every day?
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You sleep with your brother's, wife's, cousin's, mailman?
Every day?
Tooo-Shey! :thumbsup:
I was thinking more like pissin n' poopin. :yikes:
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That's gross!!! Come on you guys, clean it up!!!
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