The difference??

I was just wondering if anybody could tell me the difference between a cheap CD player, and a good one, other than reliability? I have a JVC 5 disc changer hooked up to a JVC reciever via optical cable (whole thing was about 3-400 bucks, 100 of which was the cd changer, not what most would consider 'high end'), but I've been reading about CD players up into the thousands range? For something like a turntable where every bit of mechanical accuracy matters, I can understand that, but from how I understand CDs to work, it shouldn't make a difference should it?

best thing you can do is,find a higher end audio store near you(not best buy or similar)and listen to a good stereo system.Bring a cd you are familiar with and you should hear the difference right away.
bill

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Originally Posted by Coyote-X

I was just wondering if anybody could tell me the difference between a cheap CD player, and a good one, other than reliability? I have a JVC 5 disc changer hooked up to a JVC reciever via optical cable (whole thing was about 3-400 bucks, 100 of which was the cd changer, not what most would consider 'high end'), but I've been reading about CD players up into the thousands range? For something like a turntable where every bit of mechanical accuracy matters, I can understand that, but from how I understand CDs to work, it shouldn't make a difference should it?

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No, I don't think all CDPs sound the same but the differences are generally a lot more subtle than between amplifiers for example, let alone speakers. I don't think its useful to listen to CDPs in dealers' shops. Borrow home a higher-priced player from a dealer who will lend you the unit or at least let you return it without charge. Then you can make up your own mind.

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Originally Posted by Coyote-X

I was just wondering if anybody could tell me the difference between a cheap CD player, and a good one, other than reliability?

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The differences can manifest themselves in many ways: higher resolution, more neutral frequency response, lower noise floor, and wider stagewidth among others.

I agree with Feanor that the best way to evaluate the impact of such differences is to audition with your system using familiar material.

rw

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Originally Posted by E-Stat

The differences can manifest themselves in many ways: higher resolution, more neutral frequency response, lower noise floor, and wider stagewidth among others.

I agree with Feanor that the best way to evaluate the impact of such differences is to audition with your system using familiar material.

rw

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Hm. So there are definite differences? From reading what certain engineers say you wouldn't think it, but I guess it's just like with autos where the company making the product says one thing but the real world performance doesn't match the specs... :) Should've known. Personally I was just wondering, at this point in time I can't afford a really expensive player. (Poor college student. :()

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Originally Posted by Coyote-X

So there are definite differences?

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I find that to be the case with the numerous CD / DVD players I have.

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Originally Posted by Coyote-X

From reading what certain engineers say you wouldn't think it, but I guess it's just like with autos where the company making the product says one thing but the real world performance doesn't match the specs... :)

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As with everything, the question is relative. The law of dimishing returns certainly applies. I recently purchased a used Manley DAC to go with a Pioneer PD-54 (now as transport only) in my vintage system. The sound is more effortless and less electronic sounding. Even middle-of-the-road recordings surrender more detail.

One of the characteristics of a truly transparent system is that it sounds non-loud and non-bright.

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It is important to note that the way you have your CD player connected, through the digital input of your receiver, that in evaluating other machines you will not hear much difference, if any, connected this way. Because you will still be using the receivers DAC. The difference between CD players will be realized using the analog outputs. Other than build quality and better parts, the most difference in players is how the manufacturers treat the signal after it has been converted to analog. I'm finding out that filtering is a big factor. My current DAC actually does not have any filtering and it's one of the best CD outputs I've heard.

I'm definitely one who believes it is best to put the most investment in your source but your return may be limited if one bought a $1k CD player to use with a $200.00 receiver. The better detail and resolution of a better CD player will shine through with a similarly capable amp.