• 11-08-2011, 08:13 AM
    GMichael
    New member post padding thread....
    I have seen a few new members get frustrated over the post minimums we have here. These minimums are needed to keep out spammers. To help alleviate some of the frustration, I propose that we keep this thread going so that new members can come here and get in the posts they need to ask questions or post pictures.

    What say our moderators?
  • 11-08-2011, 01:16 PM
    Glen B
    What is to prevent spammers from doing the same ? We were all newcomers at one time and dealt with the limitations until we had enough (quality) posts.
  • 11-08-2011, 01:46 PM
    GMichael
    It stops the bots that don't make posts. Other spammers would just post nonsense in any thread that came along to get to 5. I've seen this type of thread on several other sights and thought we could use one. The mods are welcome to lock it if they disagree. My feelings won't be hurt.
  • 11-14-2011, 11:00 AM
    dkim
    i think thats a good idea...especially bc i'm new and i have no idea where to post or what to say...
  • 11-15-2011, 05:55 AM
    StevenSurprenant
    While we're talking...

    I think that a great feature would be to allow a member to block posts from their view from members that aggravate them "AND" to block the the offending member from seeing their posts. This could have the potential of reducing flame wars. Of course, this would have no effect on what others would see.

    It's just a thought...
  • 11-15-2011, 06:11 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StevenSurprenant View Post
    While we're talking...

    I think that a great feature would be to allow a member to block posts from their view from members that aggravate them "AND" to block the the offending member from seeing their posts. This could have the potential of reducing flame wars. Of course, this would have no effect on what others would see.

    It's just a thought...

    You can go into your own profile and block your view of others' posts. I don't think that you can do the reverse. Then again, if you can't see ther reply, who cares?

    Edit: Hmmm.... I couldn't find it. There used to be a button to click on to block posts from other posters, but I couldn't find it. Maybe it got lost in the shuffle when the new look came about. Or maybe I just couldn't find it?
    Mods?
  • 11-15-2011, 06:31 AM
    StevenSurprenant
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GMichael View Post
    You can go into your own profile and block your view of others' posts. I don't think that you can do the reverse. Then again, if you can't see ther reply, who cares?

    I saw that, but I was unsure how it worked. I guess that I was thinking of something a little more sophisticated.

    For example, there are members that who generally make decent posts, but at times, and in certain threads go on the war path defaming another member. It would be nice to just block them just in that particular thread rather than block them globally (or both). Blocking it both ways would end the conflict and the other members wouldn't be subjected to the ongoing bickering.

    An example how this would be helpful would be the wire arguments that caused such a stir many years ago. That way, the people who would have wanted to talk about wires could have a peaceful discussion without the thread being polluted with naysayers.

    Like I said, it was just a thought.

    Thanks anyway.
  • 11-18-2011, 01:33 PM
    Mash
    What was wrong with having wire naysayers if you wanna learn something?
    I remember the wire wars. I got tired of reading silly nonsense about wires so I avoided, & still avoid, wires.

    I suppose one could, perhaps even should, permit people to indulge their delusions, but how does this help them to develop their hobby? They spend a lot of money on exotic wires and then one day they learn that it was a waste. Should they still like us?

    Granted, we all waste money from time to time, but do we meet our obligations to help those with less knowlege if we sit quietly and let misinformation flow by? Some people do get hurt feelings but whose fault is that?

    One of my favorites were those mini-telephone poles that hold your wires up off of the floor. I have forgotten the supposed benefit, but the real reason power lines usually hang up in the air is so that the power company can push about 20% more power through those uninsulated wires when compared to comparable insulated and buried power lines. Air cooling, and all that. But the buried insulated lines do look nicer, even though insulation has a finite life and that life is shorter at 14,400 volts than it is at 120 volts.
  • 12-06-2011, 09:17 AM
    ursus262
    Hello, I am new here, and this is Post No 1
  • 12-06-2011, 09:18 AM
    ursus262
    ...... and this is post no 2
  • 12-06-2011, 09:20 AM
    ursus262
    ......No 3
  • 12-06-2011, 09:21 AM
    ursus262
    Cough..... no 4

    :12:
  • 12-06-2011, 09:22 AM
    ursus262
    :21:

    and finally.... No 5!
  • 12-24-2011, 12:48 PM
    RFT
    Hello,

    I think this thread is a great idea. I am new here and I am not a spammer. But I am also pretty new to the audio world so I have a hard time posting on other threads since I don't have any knowledge to share (yet).

    At any rate, I am about to purchase my first HT system and this site looks very promising to get sound advise (pun intended).

    Thanks for keeping this forum alive . . .
  • 12-24-2011, 06:54 PM
    szjon
    Hat tip to the guy that thought of this thread. :3:
  • 12-24-2011, 06:55 PM
    szjon
    copy pasta no good
  • 12-24-2011, 06:55 PM
    szjon
    Merry xmas
  • 12-24-2011, 06:56 PM
    szjon
    where is my profile pic?
  • 12-24-2011, 07:00 PM
    szjon
    Ok, I should be done here.

    Still no chuffing pic though. Life is cruel. :19:
  • 12-24-2011, 07:07 PM
    szjon
    pic check
  • 12-25-2011, 03:45 PM
    szjon
    need more posts to post pics
  • 12-25-2011, 03:46 PM
    szjon
    2 more
  • 12-25-2011, 03:46 PM
    szjon
    waiting 30 seconds:prrr:
  • 12-27-2011, 07:27 AM
    JoeE SP9
    Hi and welcome to all you new folks. Just remember that the opinions here range from strict objectivist (meter reader) to pure subjectivist (what my golden ears hear) and everything between.
  • 12-27-2011, 11:04 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by szjon View Post
    Hat tip to the guy that thought of this thread. :3:

    Greenies to you....:thumbsup:
  • 12-27-2011, 01:15 PM
    sound_seeker
    Hello everybody here in this beautiful and helpful forum!

    I'm new to sound and video systems. My bro is a DJ but he lives in a different country, and I'll been far from technical stuff for a while.

    I read couple of threads and most of them were too technical to leave a post until I found I can do it here.



    I have 4 speakers at my home right now and they are with me for the last 5 years I inherited them from my former roommate.

    2 of them are Sanyo SX820 and the other 2 areJVC SK S44.

    I believe the sub-woofers are working but some of the tweeters are blown off. I just got a multimeter to measure which speakers need to be replaced.

    My question is

    Which of these 2 sets is better? (I read the Sanyo were sold back in 1979) For some reason they make a better sound to me.

    My receiver is also old - KENWOOD 105VR

    My goals is to put those 4 speakers to work with a decent sound because I don't have much money to buy new speakers and receiver.

    Thanks in advance!

    p.s.
    You can move my question if you think is not for this section of the forums. :wink5:
  • 12-28-2011, 10:54 AM
    sound_seeker
    Nobody is willing to answer or I have to earn higher reputation here...? :rolleyes5:
  • 12-28-2011, 11:16 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sound_seeker View Post
    Nobody is willing to answer or I have to earn higher reputation here...? :rolleyes5:

    I don't think that anyone has experience with the model speakers you are asking about. In any case, the best speakers are the ones that sound best to you. There are too many different oppinions about types of speakers to say that one type is really any better than the rest.
  • 12-28-2011, 05:00 PM
    JoeE SP9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sound_seeker View Post
    Nobody is willing to answer or I have to earn higher reputation here...? :rolleyes5:

    The speakers you are asking about are pretty much unknown here. First, they do not have sub woofers. They have woofers. A sub woofer is almost always in a separate box with it's own amplifier.
    If the tweeters are blown your only option is replacing them. Please understand, 99% of the time when you blow tweeters it's because you don't have enough power. On the rare occasions when a woofer is blown it's because of too much power.

    Your current speakers may not be worth repairung.

    Where are you located? If you have access to Craig's List that may be your best resource for replacement speakers. With CL you need to have some knowledge of what you're looking for.

    You can buy a pair of small bookshelf speakers and a powered sub woofer from Parts Express for around $200 that will shame your current speakers even if they were functioning properly.

    BTW:That's my recommendation.
  • 12-28-2011, 05:27 PM
    Mash
    Well, sound_seek......
    I suggest you attend some ACOUSTIC concerts/recitals. You will remember REAL sound far longer that how one speaker sounds w/r/t another. Use that music to evaluate speakers.

    And remember that headphones can cost a lot less than loudspeakers, but they aren't so great for blow-out parties.....

    You may conclude that your speakers are dog-doo.... or maybe not.

    Then determine your budget for repairs, or new speakers.

    Then maybe we can help (confuse you...).
  • 12-28-2011, 08:58 PM
    sound_seeker
    Thanks a lot guys!
    I am checking now Parts Express.

    I just wanted to test my multimeter and it showed:
    tweeters - 0Ω impedance (it says that tweeters are 12.5Ω)
    mid-range - 6.5Ω (they are 8Ω)
    woofer - 6.5Ω (it says on the back 8Ω)

    Why tweeters are 12.5 when the other 2 speakers are 8Ω?

    So I assume the tweeters are blown off.

    Quote:

    Please understand, 99% of the time when you blow tweeters it's because you don't have enough power.
    I don't understand this.:crazy: How come...?

    Thanks in advance!

    p.s.
    I've been classical musician for more than 15 years, so plenty of ACOUSTIC concerts.
    I just want to repair the speakers or buy new for my B-day party.
  • 12-29-2011, 03:56 AM
    Erik Petersson
    Hi,
    I'm also new to the forum, and I am looking for advice. My old stereo broke, and I am about to buy a new one, and I am looking for quality. But what is quality? I will for sure have many questions.

    all the best and season's greetings
    Erik
    Stockholm, Sweden
  • 12-29-2011, 04:19 AM
    Mash
    SS amps can put out high freq hash when they clip (run out of power) & this will fry the tweeter (all HF signal goes to tweeter). Tube amps do not share this trait. They go soft.

    You are measuring DC resistance of woofers. The listed 8 ohms includes inductance seen by the audio signal.

    Look inside the box to check for damping material- fibre glass or foam. Really inexpensive speakers often have no damping material, which is needed. More can be better.
  • 12-29-2011, 04:36 AM
    Mash
    Good luck, Erik!

    Go to enough acoustic (no amplified instruments) concerts/recitals (recitals are more intimate) and get the sound of the instruments in your ears.Then find the system(s) that can reproduce what you heard at those concerts/recitals. This will be far easier than comparing speakers, etc.

    This approach will save you a lot of money in the end.

    A high price only garantees you that you will spend more money. A low price may ultimately dissapoint you.

    Beware the snob appeals.

    Safe bets to get you started:
    Magnepan MMG, 1.7, 3.7 Magnepan.com
    Mackie HR824Mk2 Mackie.com
    Jolida Jolida.com
    Musical Fidelity
    Velodyne
    Samsung BluRay
    OPPO 95, see OPPO Digital (com)
  • 12-29-2011, 06:18 AM
    GMichael
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mash View Post

    Safe bets to get you started:
    Magnepan MMG,
    Jolida
    Musical Fidelity
    Velodyne
    Samsung BluRay

    Hmmm..... A fine starter system I'd say. One that many would not need to upgrade from.
  • 01-02-2012, 04:27 PM
    JoeE SP9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sound_seeker View Post
    Thanks a lot guys!
    I am checking now Parts Express.

    I just wanted to test my multimeter and it showed:
    tweeters - 0Ω impedance (it says that tweeters are 12.5Ω)
    mid-range - 6.5Ω (they are 8Ω)
    woofer - 6.5Ω (it says on the back 8Ω)

    Why tweeters are 12.5 when the other 2 speakers are 8Ω?

    So I assume the tweeters are blown off.



    I don't understand this.:crazy: How come...?


    Thanks in advance!

    p.s.
    I've been classical musician for more than 15 years, so plenty of ACOUSTIC concerts.
    I just want to repair the speakers or buy new for my B-day party.

    Tweeters blow because an amplifier is asked to deliver more power than it can. This causes a condition called clipping. The extreme high frequency content of a clipped signal overloads tweeters and burns out the voice coils.

    When you have too much power the woofers will usually start bottoming out. This is easy to hear. It's so easy to hear that anyone who isn't drunk or unconscious will hear it and lower the volume.

    Having too much power is a good thing.
    Wattage/power ratings on speakers are essentially worthless.

    The Ohm rating on a given speaker system is not directly related to the Ohm ratings on individual speakers in the box. If the tweeters give a ~12 Ohm reading the chances are they are not blown. A blown tweeter usually means either an open (infinite Ohms) reading or a short (zero Ohms).

    Speakers, like just about almost anything can be repaired. The question is are they worth the time and money involved. Only you can answer that.

    Check the two links below. One is for a pair of halfway decent small bookshelf's. The other is for a sub woofer. The whole setup is less than $200 including shipping.

    IMO they are an improvement over what you're thinking of repairing.

    Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair 300-652

    Dayton Audio SUB-80 8" 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer 300-631
  • 01-04-2012, 02:57 PM
    spk984
    Thanks to all the insight gathered from this site over the last few months I now have the ability to overwhelm my conscious with a potent dub step journey, ignite raw emotion with juxtaposition of kurt’s cold cries and Nirvana’s warm unplugged harmonies or delight in human ability as Bonobo pulls so pleasing a jazz melody from a cacophonic arrangement of notes... I now have an endless supply of crushes as I become smitten with another female indie singer/songwriter’s vulnerable delicate and intricate offering or when the mood strikes I connect with the father I deeply miss through Dylan wisdom. What a gift thank you for beginning my stereo schooling!
  • 01-04-2012, 02:58 PM
    spk984
    Ignorance from inexperience combined with recent excitement of losing my mid-fi virginity finds me only confidant sharing my new found pleasure. So many questions and uncertainties arose while setting up my system that I am certain the wisdom of willing readers will redefine my notion of perfect. From my NAD 512 cd player I have the left output going to one NAD 712 receiver and the right output going to another NAD 712 receiver. One receiver powers a set of Tannoy Mercury M2 about a foot apart and the other receiver powers a set of Energy xl-25s about 8 ft over and 3 ft apart. Listener is faced with Tonnoys 45 degrees to the left and Energys 45 degrees to the right. Both receiver’s are set to mono. I have one receiver tape output going to a powered downward facing Jammo sub the other receiver’s tape output going to an Energy xl S8 powered sub (I only turn subs on for the occasional time bass heavy dub step is playing). On each receiver the second set of speaker terminals has a single wire connecting 1 positive terminal to the positive terminal of a Mission bookshelf speaker located behind listener. Mission speakers face opposing walls and have their negative terminals connected together. (somewhat according to NAD 712 manual’s advice for ambient additional speakers). I know my equipment is an eclectic array of inherited and craigslist derived deals and I completely ignored less is more philosophy but I am thrilled with the sound. Please enjoy a chuckle at the expense of my chaotic inexperience and if you have the time suggest improvements. My return to school limits funding for further purchases so set-up advice helps me currently more so.
  • 01-04-2012, 03:00 PM
    mansueto
    I think this thread is a good idea...mainly because I am a new member and I have a legitimate question to ask regarding an issue I am having with my Yamaha RX-V2600 which has been ongoing for a few weeks! I've contacted Yamaha directly and they are absolutely useless lol.
  • 01-04-2012, 03:25 PM
    spk984
    I forgot to mention I also have a set of keff q30's and cerwin vega v series (8” woofer + tweat) speakers that I could use instead. If worthwhile I could also switch one of my NAD 712 receivers for a Cyrus straightline integrated amp. I care far less for surround sound than stereo but also use the system for movies. I have Harmon Kardon receiver that could return if movie/t.v. has negative impact on stereo system. I realize a few high quality pieces are more worthwhile than so many mid-range pieces but besides cyrus and cerwin vega inherited component I spent under 500$ for all other items i mentioned so even a single higher quality piece was out of range.