New Perspective

Guys my original post I left two simple observations. That being 1. you don't have to be overly intelligent and 2. as long as you can hear, you can take part in this hobby. There is nothing to challenge here, their both facts. But what I got for replies one would have thought they were visiting Philosophical Review not an audio forum . I'm sure there are other web sites to disscuss those views like the Big question Why Are We Here but I don't want to go there and would rather talk about peoples experience with cables which is what it says at the top of this page. ( Cable Forum ).

Knowlege is worthless without Common Sense
Rich

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Originally Posted by Lowdef

Guys my original post I left two simple observations. That being 1. you don't have to be overly intelligent and 2. as long as you can hear, you can take part in this hobby. There is nothing to challenge here, their both facts. But what I got for replies one would have thought they were visiting Philosophical Review not an audio forum . I'm sure there are other web sites to disscuss those views like the Big question Why Are We Here but I don't want to go there and would rather talk about peoples experience with cables which is what it says at the top of this page. ( Cable Forum ).

Knowlege is worthless without Common Sense
Rich

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When you have something as tenuous as cable sonics, all you are left with is philosophy. If you think listening to cables is a worthwhile pursuit, then go for it.

So you are saying the human brain is fooled all the time when evaluating audio

Maybe yes, maybe no. That is one of th eproblem that you have no idea when it is fooled and when it is not. You have no control over this. Have you ever asked someone to repeat something you heard only to be told nothing was said in th efirst place? How and why did your brain tell you to have it repeated? It was fooled.
Researchers in human senses and human reactions know all about human bias. Nothing new. Why do you think DBT is uses in the field of science and research?


and is not capable of interpeting what one is really hearing.


Or, over interpreting it, yes. The library of science is full of data on this.


I'm sorry but I will give it( the brain) a little more credit than that.


Little more is fine. Giving it immunity from being biased, or giving false responses is a huge mistake.


Would a computer be able to do a better job in this?

Do a better job of doing what?




Natural instinct is something you are born with and hearing, if your kucky enough to have it is a great gift to be used in conjunction with the brain to help process the things that go on around you in every day life.

Yes, to a point. However, evaluating and differentiating small differences is not an easy task the brain and the human subject is equipped to do well. After all, humans are biased and are gullible too, that is innate and doesn't operate on an on/off switch.


And it can do a damn good job of it!


Many times, yes, some times no.

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Originally Posted by pctower

You and others devote your lives trying to control what goes on in the privacy of my own sound room, .

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No, not at all. But, you made it public when it was brought up for discussion. That is what is being done, debated and refuted when necessary.

That being 1. you don't have to be overly intelligent and 2. as long as you can hear, you can take part in this hobby. There is nothing to challenge here, their both facts.


1, yes.
2, maybe.


But what I got for replies one would have thought they were visiting Philosophical Review not an audio forum . I'm sure there are other web sites to disscuss those views like the Big question Why Are We Here but I don't want to go there and would rather talk about peoples experience with cables which is what it says at the top of this page. ( Cable Forum ).


Oh, but we are not discussing 'why are we here.'
We are discussing aspects of audio that is important to know to some/many, certainly not all which is fine.
Experiences as perceptions may be unreliable too. That is soemthing one should also know.

........Technology has out weighed humanity........Who said that?

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Originally Posted by Lowdef

Guys my original post I left two simple observations. That being 1. you don't have to be overly intelligent and 2. as long as you can hear, you can take part in this hobby. There is nothing to challenge here, their both facts. But what I got for replies one would have thought they were visiting Philosophical Review not an audio forum . I'm sure there are other web sites to disscuss those views like the Big question Why Are We Here but I don't want to go there and would rather talk about peoples experience with cables which is what it says at the top of this page. ( Cable Forum ).

Knowlege is worthless without Common Sense
Rich

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I would be happy to hear about your experiences with cables. As you have already found out, many of the regulars on this forum don't trust their perceptions, and will not trust your's either. Don't let their comments discourage you from sharing your experiences with those who are interested.

You probably didn't realize it at the time but your post was the perfect troll for this forum. There are so many here poking sticks at people who use their ears (God forbid!) that it's turned into a never ending sword fight. "Is not!" "Is too!" is about all the info you'll get here.

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Originally Posted by Bill L

You probably didn't realize it at the time but your post was the perfect troll for this forum. There are so many here poking sticks at people who use their ears (God forbid!) that it's turned into a never ending sword fight. "Is not!" "Is too!" is about all the info you'll get here.

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Understood Bill, but theres no rational behind it. The ears are the most important tool in audio, you have no choice but to use them. Just as the eyes are the most important in photography. Would they recommend not using them when taking a picture. I think not! Thats why I'm a big advocate of common sense, if more people used it in their post we would all get along a lot better.

Knowlege is worthless without Common Sense
Rich

No one is saying don't use your ears.