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New York?
What is wrong with best buy? I buy CD's there all the time. The reality is that "other" audio forums are full of yuppies. People that judge the quality of their gear by the cost and not the sound it produces. Then when someone with an electrical engineering degree tries to explain to them that $2000 speaker cables don't improve the sound quality a noticable amount it is an immediate attack on their judgement and they start to feel like they were taken advantage of.
If I were to say my $20 dollar clock radio sounds just as good as any $1000 stereo, people would think I am nuts and wouldn't bother responding. So why is it when I say my $20 worth of speaker cables sound as good as others $2000 worth of speaker cables people get all defensive (which has happened several hundred times on this forum). Could it be because they know I am right and don't want to admit it?
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Originally Posted by WmAx
Phil. Why do you ignore my questions? Perhaps I am not deserving of your 'bait'?
-Chris
Chris:
I'm sorry - I didn't mean anything personal.
I've been hanging around here and over at AA for over two years. I rarely take anything that goes on at either place too seriously. There are certain people who so mangle truth and reason that I can't keep quite and I get pretty serious, but those people are mainly over at AA.
My post that started this thread was not intended to be taken seriously. I was just trying to jerk some chains for the fun of it. I consider it good natured humor. Others think I'm just being a total ass.
I just didn't have the energy to respond specifically to the points you raised, because if I were to get serious I would probably agree with much of what you said.
I already "fought all the good fights" both here and over at AA, and don't have a lot of fight left in me. Most of the fighting was done while I was on an extended, unplanned professional hyatis. I'm back in the thick of thing professionally again, so I just don't have the time or energy left over to get really involved as I used to.
Nonetheless, I find this place fun for some sick reason so I still try to drop by as much as I can.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Blacklight
Hey Phil I was there. And you know something I got to listen to the Halcro Room and Vanderstiens and they sounded like crap. If you are serious about sound that is the absolute worst place to go for a listen as the set-ups are severly compromissed. I have actually heard better sound in the soundrooms at Circuit City and Best Buy for this reason.
Yea, from what I read over at AA, the Vandersteen room with Rogue electronics was pretty limp.
I heard the 5-As at the Audio Research room at CES and they sounded really good, but they had a huge room that worked ok acoustically. Also, I own a pair of the 5s and have been a Vandy owner for over 15 years, so I'm biased.
In the standard hotel rooms at CES nothing sounded good.
The thing I remember most from CES was the time I spent listening to a restored Ampex reel-to-reel playing old commercial tapes. That was a blast.
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Well Phil, it comes as a great relief to me to find out that you only started this silly thread to "yank some chains" ... when I first read it, I thought that you just might be serious.
I think that "high-end audio" serves no useful purpose, and should die a slow, ignominous death - and preferably as soon as possible. It only exists to give those sick humans that have the deeply ingrained psychological need, a way for them to feel superior to other human beans. There's simply no other explanation for why anyone would spend $20,000 for an amplifier fer crissakes. Or $5,000 for a CD player. Or $100,000 for a pair of speakers ... all of which adds up to sheer idiocy!
Some of the manufacturers of this crap (and I use the word in the most loving way) add a lot to the "problem" by their snobbish, elitist attitudes. This also spills over to the retailers who try their best to sell this stuff to the painfully gullible by making them feel that they wouldn't be able to enjoy music at all without these $2,000 wires! Sheeeeeeesh!
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"My post that started this thread was not intended to be taken seriously. I was just trying to jerk some chains for the fun of it. I consider it good natured humor. Others think I'm just being a total ass."
Mark me down for category two.
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two fer two...
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Originally Posted by skeptic
"My post that started this thread was not intended to be taken seriously. I was just trying to jerk some chains for the fun of it. I consider it good natured humor. Others think I'm just being a total ass."
Mark me down for category two.
Peace and Paradigms.....Pogue
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Pogue...I gotta know. Were you really James Davenport Briggs Huett the third? (or whatever his name was)
Hi PC :)
Even tho you were just yankin' chains...I'll still answer why I have know interest in going to the New York show (or shows like it)
It just doesn't interest me. Too much hype for too much money.
I suppose it's along the same reasoning why I don't care to read StereoPhile anymore...just no interest.
But please, don't think that the above two reasons, for not wanting to go to the show, would suggest that I'm no longer interested in two channel reproduction systems. My interest (and pleasure) has never been greater in audio.
(hmmm...also...please don't read the above statement and think that two channel reproduction takes the front seat to music. My love for music grows each day...not for the sound...but for the emotion!)
maybe I'm writing too much into the statement ;)
Bobby Blacklight...I didn't know you were you! Hi :)
hehe...ok...I'm done...
take care all>>>>>>>
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fishin brudda...
na...that wasn't me..no way...too much work pertendin' ta be someone else!!! I have a hard time keepin' up wiff meself! ;)
Nice ta see ya! Peace, Pogue
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