Best Receiver under $600?

[Lord Nikon]

Now I mean it, when I say under $600 and shipped to my house!!! ! :) None of that if you can do $30 more... crap!

Denon
Onkyo
Yamaha
HK
Marantz

or other brands/models... I am running Ascend Acoustic speakers all around.... which receiver is the clearest, best value for the money out of these brands in my price range?

[bboy1234]

The yamaha htr5760 will be around 350 delivered well under 500. I just purchased one and it does the job for me supports up to 7.1. You can stab a yamaha htr5790 for 550.

[Lord Nikon]

I cannot find the HTR-5790 for $550 anywhere. :) This forum leans towards Yamaha soo much. Not certain why, but not complaining either.

[This Guy]

Basically any receiver from one of those brands you listed will be fine. Just pick the one that has all the features you need. You can get some refurbished Marantz receivers from accessories4less.com . You get a lot more receiver for your money because they are refurbished. Check out the sr-x300 and sr-x400 series, you'll get a good price on the X300 series because it's last years model.

-Joey

[Lord Nikon]

I just want the best bang for the buck. I am coming off a technics a/v receiver I got in a HTIB set back in 1998. Anything is a step up, so I set a price limit to adhere to. :)

[kexodusc]

The forum leans to Yamaha for a few reasons...Reliability is probably the biggest...Few would argue against Yamaha's track record, nobody in the under $1500 can seem to touch them. Though I woudl argue Denon and Marantz are close...H/K probably too.
Sound wise and feature wise, they're all pretty similar. Yamaha's known for their superior processing (DSP's), but I don't know many who buy a receiver for DSP's.

I'd take a good look at Denon's AVR-1804 as well as the Yamaha HTR-5760/RX-V650 or the 5790 if you can find it for $550.

The Denon and Yamaha's in that price range will make your Technics sound like it was sick.

[Woochifer]

If you're willing to wait a couple of months, Yamaha's RX-V1400 and 2400 models will probably be discontinued soon if Yamaha sticks with their typical product replacement cycle. At that point, you can easily find the 1400 for under $600 and possible the 2400 as well. Last year, when the RX-V1300 and 2300 got discontinued, I saw the 2300 selling for $500 at some retail stores.

Just keep your eyes peeled on various news sites like Audio Revolution for new product announcements. Pretty much the minute Yamaha announces the new models, you need to move quickly since stores will have probably stopped stocking new units well before then and tried to let their inventory run as low as possible. If they still have a large stock of units in inventory, then they will resort to the outrageous deals.

If you can still find any of the Denon AVR-2803 units at a local store, that would be another discontinued model that you can probably deal way down on right now.

[Lord Nikon]

Which of these is the better receiver HTR-5790 ($560 w/ shipping), RX-V750( $478), and Denon AVR-2803 ($530) Marantz SR5400 ($470) Marantz SR6300 ($528)? As you can see the prices are pretty close. Which one would you get? :) :)

I would say perhaps the RX-V750 is best price for options, but lemme know. :)

[hershon]

Putting my preference to JVC aside, I believe the EdGein system will fit your needs nicely.
I cannot find the HTR-5790 for $550 anywhere. :) This forum leans towards Yamaha soo much. Not certain why, but not complaining either.

[Lord Nikon]

Putting my preference to JVC aside, I believe the EdGein system will fit your needs nicely.

I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you please clarify?

[hershon]

The EdGein receiver is made in Wisconsin and uses handmade parts.
I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you please clarify?

[musicguy04]

If you don't mind going used (or waiting a little until they're discontinued), check out a Yamaha RX-V1400. If you only care about 5.1 DD/DTS, you can probably get something used very high quality for your price.

[HokieVT]

eCost.com is eating the shipping cost now. So you can order the unit and not pay shipping charges. They have a lot of refurbished and new units. They seem to have the best prices as far as I can tell.

[bboy1234]

My advice is whatever you decide to buy purchase a brand new unit. Forget about used or refurbed units. I have had my yamaha htr-5760 for 4 days now and i cant imagine needing anything more than this unit gives and for only $350 or less delivered. The nice thing about yamaha is the ypao system that sets up you speakers automatically for you. Do your research and get what is you think is best for you. If you decide you want to go the yamaha route just compare the 5760 and the 5790 I dont think the 5790 is worth the 200 or so more.

[pwh03]

the htrr 5790 is a better receiver then the rxv 650 in my opinion and I think most would agree basically the rxv 650 is equal to the 5750 and the 1400 to the 5790. all though for your situation you may not need the added features and slight power increase provided by the 5790. I've never demoed the other receivers though I have owned a denon and I would recomend their products to anyone looking for a new receiver. The 2803 does seem to pop up a lot on this forum. I have never listened to anything by marantz though they too have a good reputation, in the end I highly doubt you will be disappointed with any of these choices, see which one has all the features you want and need for the lowest price and then go with that receiver.

Have fun
good luck

If it helps I have a simialr 5.1 setup and I bought the 5760 for 350 shipped, and its done everything I have asked it to do.

Ph

[bboy1234]

Oh yeah im running 5.1 at this time but nice thing is the 5760 and the 5790 support 7.1.

[This Guy]

explain to me what is wrong with buying a refurbished receiever from an authorized dealer?

[bboy1234]

No explination needed you have your opinion i have mine.

[Lord Nikon]

I did find the RX-V1400 for $599 shipped, which is not bad. Now I can get the 5790 for $40 cheaper than that also. I guess my needs are actually pretty simple. I am running Acoustic Research CBM-170 Mains, and CMT-340c Center. Those are the only speakers I have currently. I have no subwoofer either. I thought it was time to purchase a new receiver before I moved on. My CBM-170 Mains will turn in to my surrounds and I will be getting the CMT-340 Mains. My sub will be a HSU, when I do get one.

I am sure all these receives would saffice, like the other equipment I have I want the best bang for the buck. 95% of my system will be for HT. I just figured picking a targat price was the best idea. Unless you don't feel I need something so expensive after all.

[bboy1234]

If your mainly using it for HT and some music then dont spend the xtra money get the htr 5760 and save yourself some money.

[Lord Nikon]

HTR-5760 has been ordered. $326.95 + $37 for 3 day shipping. :)

[bboy1234]

I think you made a good choice post back when you get it and tell me if ya like it.

[woodygg]

Had the Denon 2803, liked it just fine... however, some liquid spilled into it and it fried. Went looking again and picked up a H/K AVR525... and couldn't be happier. Musically, much warmer than the Denon. Never cared for the Yamaha's I listened to when shopping, but that could've been the setups at the stores, so take that as you will.

Personally, I buy reconditioned if it's what I want, and I saved about $300. Unit has worked just fine over the last year or so I've had it. If you want to spend more for the same thing, go right ahead! (I work in the electronics business, so I know how these things work... besides, that's what the warranty is for). The remote did go out, however I called H/K and without ANY questions ask (even when did I buy it or from whom), they shipped me a new remote.

[Lord Nikon]

I have it hooked up and working finer. The sound is sooo different then what I had before. It was very clear, I don't undertand these negative sound levels -32 and such... it goes up +whatever. What is your your yamaha normal listening number?

[kexodusc]

I don't think you can draw too much from the "-32" dB on the display other than a relative figure for comparison purposes.
On some Yamaha receivers where the range ends at "0 dB", Yamaha recommends safe playback up to -15 dB.
Since the RX-V5760 will go to +16.5 dB or something, it may be possible on your receiver to exceed -15 dB. Don't try it on my advice though, I'd consult with Yamaha first.

Here's a link to Yamaha's FAQ's on this subject (which appear slightly outdated since receivers now go above "0dB").
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/faqs/av_receivers/faq41.htm

[Lord Nikon]

Interesting... -15db is pretty loud and I find my average listening to be -27 to -20 most of the time. I went to -11db before and and it wasn't overpowering. Now with the stereo, it seeems much louder at -30db than movies. I was concerned that I hooked my speakers up wrong or something. Now I use Ascend Acoustics CBM-170's for my mains.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cbm170/cbm170specs.html

It says they are 8ohms...all I did was plug them up and go! I did read in the manual there is an ohm switch, but I never went in to it too much. Is there a switch I need to be hitting? I don't know if anyone else here has a yamaha receiver and these mains!

[Lord Nikon]

I am reading it from the online manual now. Perhaps I need to make an adjustment to the impedance selector.

Go to this link, and look at page 27

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/manuals/HTR_5760.PDF

I don't really understand what this is saying. Anyone wanna help?


Switch position Left:

If you use one set (A or B) the impedance of each spaeker must be 4ohms or higher.
If you use two setes of (A or B) the impedenace of each speaker must be 8ohms or higher.

Switch Position Right:

If you use one set (A or B) the impedance of each spaeker must be 8ohms or higher.
If you use two setes of (A or B) the impedenace of each speaker must be 16ohms or higher.


From the specs of my speakers, it looks like the switch SHOULD be in the RIGHT position. I have NO clue which position the switch is in. I never touched this option. Perhaps some of you Yamaha guys might be able to tell me what way the switch is by default. Perhaps the switch is on the middle (if possible) meaning neither? The reason I am asking is that I am at work for the next 8 hours!: :) This may explain some of the results I am getting perhaps. or I am just not use to the new receiver.

[kexodusc]

Source (ie: cd player vs. dvd player) can have a big impact on the apparent volume you are getting.

Chances are your receiver is set to the 8 ohm or higher selection (Right)

I'm not sure what your complaint is exactly, what "results" are you getting that you aren't happy with?

[Lord Nikon]

Source (ie: cd player vs. dvd player) can have a big impact on the apparent volume you are getting.

Chances are your receiver is set to the 8 ohm or higher selection (Right)

I'm not sure what your complaint is exactly, what "results" are you getting that you aren't happy with?

I am trying to find out what yamaha users average listening level is. Someone posted the yamaha facts for the volume. I have it on -27 to -25 for tv, and during a movie I put it on -15 and it doesn't seem extremely loud at all. I feel like the receiver isn't powerful or something. I know I had an old 1998 receiver, but when I turned up the receiver it turned up what appears to be bass and everything. When I turn out this receiver, it doesn't really feel like it's pushing that much. I dunno... maybe I am just not use to new technology and I have been listening to a messed up setup.

I do not have a sub yet, but I do not notice much of a change in bass from the mains during volume being turned up.

[Lord Nikon]

What I did just notice is that I have tone control on bypass. :) That just may have something to do with it. I never read what the feature did, but I wasn't under the impression it turned off. Figured it adjusts to YPAO or something. This could have a large impact on my listening. :) I think I also have this night mode thingy which narrows the range of sorts for night listening. It seems that plugging it up wasn't the way to go ! :)

[kexodusc]

I think you should take the time to familiarize yourself with the manual, and all of the setting. Don't just count on YPAO to do all of the settings for you.

That receiver is fairly powerful, and you shouldn't be having much of an issue. I have a feeling the problem is with your other equipment, possibly the settings. If TV and CD listening are fine for you in the -30 to -27 dB range, increasing to -15 dB to acheive the same volume might be something to look at. That's a heck of a difference.

[Lord Nikon]

That night listening mode seems to have a lot to do with the symptoms I am experiencing.

"when watching a films to reduce the dynamic range of film soundtracks and makes the dialog easier to hear at lower volumes". I have this on for movies, not music... so thats why turner is louder than dvd perhaps. :) I also noticed the lack of bass, flatness of sorts... thats because the tone control - bass/treble is bypassed. I know for a fact I have tone control on bypass and night listening mode on. :) So it seems there is an explaination for the weakneses I thought were a problem. If you are an old person watching movie at night this would be fine. I cannot wait to get home and make a few changes to this puppy. I knew it wasn't the receiver, I knew it had to be a setting somewhere.

When I said music, I was referring to turner not cd player. I play music cds on my dvd player also, but was referring to tv, over tuner.

[Lord Nikon]

Well I corrected those things, and I dunno. During movies I find myself turning the volume to -15db and -10db. Does anyone else listen their movies at these levels? I checked everything else, all is in order. I am currently running ONLY L+R Mains, and Center channel. This wouldn't be the cause would it? I wouldn't think adding more speakers would make it that much louder.

[Lord Nikon]

I had was using Doby Digital options selected and or DTS... but didn't have optical/digital cables, but was using regular RCA interconnects... would this perhaps cause the system not to sound too good?