Need advice

[JeffBrecklin]

Hi i need advice on buying a advent reciever. I was thinking of buying a old advent reciever to power my smaller advents. Which receiver would be good for power for driving my smaller advents o ya and it must be 4 ohms. And around 200 dollars and i dont feel like buying off the internet thanks jeff.

[woodman]

Hi i need advice on buying a advent reciever. I was thinking of buying a old advent reciever to power my smaller advents. Which receiver would be good for power for driving my smaller advents o ya and it must be 4 ohms. And around 200 dollars and i dont feel like buying off the internet thanks jeff.

The best advice that I (or anyone else) could give you would be to buy yourself any brand of receiver other than Advent. There is no longer a company by that name - even though you might see from time to time some electronic products bearing the name, such as TV sets. Don't be bamboozled ... the company that built your Advent speakers is no longer. The use of the name was sold, that's all.

If reliability over the long term is important to you, buy Yamaha. They're the industry leader in that criteria.

[JeffBrecklin]

Which yahmaha is highpowered 4 ohms.

[JeffBrecklin]

Hello is anyone there the reciever must be 4 ohms and around 200 wpc which yamaha reciever has a 4 ohm and 8 ohm selector. Thanks jeff

[noddin0ff]

If you're not going to buy off the internet. Then go to a store and look at 4ohm receivers. All you have to do is walk through the door and say "Hello! Anyone there?"

:eek:

[JeffBrecklin]

Ok my mom and dad were going to buy it for me for my birthday.

[noddin0ff]

I think all Yamaha AV receivers have an impedence selector switch on the back. This lets you set it for 4 ohm or 8 ohm speakers.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V450.htm

A link to an entry level receiver above. Download the manual from the link on that page. Look at page 20 of the manual to see what I refer to.

Yamaha often manufactures nearly identical receivers with different model numbers. The models beginning RX go to 'prestige' stores and cost more than the models beginning HTR that are sold by many online retailers or 'budget' stores. Generally similar models are identical except for the lettering or small cosmetic differences. If you find an RX model you like. Try to figure out what the matching HTR model would be, you may save money.

[Mr Peabody]

Woodman is right, "Advent" the name has been bought and sold many times over and who knows what is in the box. Not likely, but the coin could fall on the other side and it be a decent receiver. I mean look at those Apex DVD players that sold for cheap, everyone I know who bought one still has it playing. Not my cup of video, but hey......

I wouldn't think that too many receivers today would have a real problem driving 4 ohms. For 2 channel, I recommend the Onkyo at around $200. it drives the mess out of a little pair of 4 ohm AR's.

[JeffBrecklin]

My parents wont let me buy a good reciever i was going to buy a onkyo. O well im just going to go into my room and start making a franking steine 4 ohm reciever and hope that i dont get shocked.

[skeptic]

My advice it to buy an old Marantz receiver like a 2270 in good condition. It will power your speakers, is very stable even with low impedence loads like 4 ohms, it performs excellently, has lots of useful features, and it very reliable. It's also probably well within your budget.

I don't know what experience Woodman has had with Yamaha but he should read a current thread on the HT board about the nightmare someone is having with a $10,000 Yamaha receiver.

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=5475

I personally have seen 2 Yamaha receivers from different eras blow up their amplifier stages at trade shows. I cannot say that they are any more reliable than anyone elses.

If you buy new equipment, for $200, you won't get much for your money.

[matt39]

Hi Jeff,

Skeptic makes a good point about used equipment. You might look around in your area at places like Good Will or Salvation Army or even a pawn shop. You also might check out if there are ads in a local resale paper ( here in Michigan we have one called Tradin Times). Garage sales are also a possibility. You know you might be able to get by with a cheap stereo receiver from a company like Sony or Kenwood. You would have to keep the volume at low to moderate levels but your parents might appreciate that and you could probably get one on sale for about $140 at a place like Best Buy. A used Technics could do the same thing pretty well and save you more money. Just a last thought, when I was just getting into music, money was tight in our family and I got a couple small units which got me by until I could afford what I really wanted. Maybe a mini-system of some kind which your family can afford now would be a better choice. Then you could take your time and save up for something nice to power your Advents. Anyways, good luck and hang in there.

[JeffBrecklin]

Thanks matt and skeptic i will look at good will and st vincent depaul

[topspeed]

My advice it to buy an old Marantz receiver like a 2270 in good condition. It will power your speakers, is very stable even with low impedence loads like 4 ohms, it performs excellently, has lots of useful features, and it very reliable. It's also probably well within your budget.

Dadgummit, I wish I'd thought of it first!

You can find restored Marantz receivers on e-bay all the time and like Skep notes, they are very reliable, will drive a truck, and honestly sound better than most of today's receivers, especially anything that you would get for $200 new. They are also very retro-cool with their glowing blue displays and stainless steel faceplates. I use an archaic 30 watter myself but don't be fooled; these are a real 30 watts and it plays louder than I'll every need it to.

Go old school, Jeff.

[JeffBrecklin]

Thanks i will look for marantz but are they 4 ohms.

[topspeed]

Amps aren't 4 ohms, speakers are. Yes, they will drive your Advents without breaking a sweat.

I would look long and hard at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50596&item=5708087716&rd=1

If your dad was/is into audio at all, he'll know this receiver.

[skeptic]

I bought a Pioneer SX 950 85wpc receiver for $10 in a garage sale a few months ago. It's a beast. It sat in a garage for years. The owner didnt' want it anymore. I think they went HT. Their loss was my gain.

[skeptic]

That's a beauty. Would make a wonderful choice.

[JeffBrecklin]

Yes it is a bueaty will a old lxi receiver be able to drive my advents it says 8 ohms minimum other wise i will try to find a old marantz.

[This Guy]

i think you answered your own question

[JeffBrecklin]

Sorry but what does that mean. The people at sound world said that you cant play 4 ohm speakers on a 8 ohm reciever. So i am unsure what to do.

[topspeed]

The people at sound world said that you cant play 4 ohm speakers on a 8 ohm reciever.
You can, your receiver just won't like it very much. At low to moderate volumes, there shouldn't be a problem. However, if you like to crank it up a notch or two, the tougher impedence curve of your Advents is going to either overheat the receiver and trip the protection circuitry whereas you'll get no sound for awhile (until it cools off) or it will fry your amps whereas you get no sound forever. Your choice.

Talk your parents into buying the Marantz. To your friends, you'll be a connoisseur.

[JeffBrecklin]

Ok thanks my advents sound really good on that reciever i thought it would do somthing bad to the crossovers but i guess im wrong.




anyway thanks jeff

[JeffBrecklin]

I think i will buy the marantz imperial 5 speakers.

[topspeed]

I think i will buy the marantz imperial 5 speakers.
WTH??? Speakers! I thought we were talking about amps!

Jeff, that 2285B is still under $100 as of this writing with 18 hours left. If I didn't already have a 2230 I WOULD BUY IT.

You will not go wrong with this receiver.

[JeffBrecklin]

I dont have the money and i dont trust buying off of the internet.

[This Guy]

I dont have the money and i dont trust buying off of the internet.

"Hi i need advice on buying a advent reciever. I was thinking of buying a old advent reciever to power my smaller advents. Which receiver would be good for power for driving my smaller advents o ya and it must be 4 ohms. And around 200 dollars and i dont feel like buying off the internet thanks jeff."

WTF? You said you had $200. What was the point of this whole thread? And why you dont trust a trusted ebayer with great feedback is beyond me.

[JeffBrecklin]

Sorry i thought that my mom and dad were going to give me 200.00 dollars for my birthday but they arent. Wanna know why i dont trust people on the internet because i baught a 500.00 dollar gas powered scooter and it breaks all of the time and the people ate the company wont give me the part that broke and they are very mean. Plus my mom and dad wont let me buy off of the internet.

[This Guy]

Well thats the scooter companies fault, not ebays or whatever. The same thing would have happened if you bought it at a store.

[JeffBrecklin]

Well they might still give me 200.00 dollars for my birthday. I was thinking of eather geting my advents refoamed for 100.00 dollers and saving up 200 more and buying a onkyo that is if my parents will let me.

[matt39]

Hi Jeff,

Just thought I would check in again since things don't seem to be working out for you. First you seem to be going in several directions at once and you're not able to make any progress. First, make a plan and establish a budget for it. A suggestion is get a cheap minisystem or cd-radio ($50-100) to tide you over. If you already have one, use it. Since you are just starting out and your purchasing options are limited, the best thing for you to do might be shopping at stores like Best Buy or Circuit City. It's not just that they have affordable stuff but also they have decent return, exchange and refund policies which are a great help when you have problems. Just make sure to unpack carefully and keep everything (like packing, manuals, unused hardware, etc.) in the box. Be absolutely sure to keep your receipts and learn the time limits for returns. Once you have some experience and a little more independence (and money) you can get nicer stuff and maybe venture into the used market. A possible plan might go like this: 1) What do I need? A receiver and cd player (I already have speakers which I can refoam while I'm getting money for other items). 2) What do I get first? A receiver. I can use the tuner while I save for a cd player. 3) What is my budget? $200. 4) What can I get for $200? Sony stereo receiver ($140 on sale at BB). Toshiba dvd player for cd/dvd play ($60 at BB). 5) Get regular speaker wire at Radio Shack or Home Depot, 16 guage is fine and use the interconnects that come with the cd player. You're just starting out, you don't need to be fancy. 6) How do I finance things? Save your gift money, chore money, allowance, or part time job earnings.

This is just an example, but this or something like this, can work for you. I'm sorry if this seems like an old fogey talking down to the new guy but I am not talking down to you, I want you to succeed! And, actually, I am an old fogey! Just remember that the most important, and difficult, thing to do is be patient. Make a good, realistic plan that you can actually accomplish, then stick to your plan and don't get distracted by things that don't matter. If interruptions occur that you can't avoid, like something really necessary that you have to buy, then just return to your plan as soon as you can. Don't hesitate to talk things over with family and friends since they can help you with many things like earning cash and finding good deals. You can get what you want Jeff, just get organized and work hard to accomplish your goals. Best of luck.

[JeffBrecklin]

Thanks i already have 2 recievers a turntable and a cd player and 3 sets of speakers and a 8 track player. I guess i will just use what i got and save my money up and buy a onkyo reciever to drive my advents.

[pelly3s]

just look in thrift stores and stuff. i found a Proton D-940 in a store for $8 and it's excellent condition, thats the best deal i've gotten so far but it's just one of those things that takes a little time. do yourself a favor and avoid new onkyo stuff

[musicguy04]

Don't buy off the internet. There are waaaaaaay too many scams and con artists out there. I have bought some of my things used, but only from people I know or places I can easily drive to and see the gear myself. You can use the internet to find deals, just don't buy unless the deal is in person.

[matt39]

Hi Jeff,

I'm sorry I misread your situation. Take care and good luck on your future systems.

[JeffBrecklin]

Thanks do you have a 8 track player i have a xrossx solid state and alot of 8 tracks it still works good are these 8 track players rare.

[matt39]

Sorry, I never owned an 8-track player but I do think that one in good working order would be somewhat rare because they stopped making 8-track tapes quite a long time ago.

[JeffBrecklin]

Ok thanks.