Oh man I need new music to listen to... HELP!

[Izlsnizzt]

I really need some new tunes. I'm open to anything. I downloaded some flaming lips and stuff of that nature today and I must say it's pretty interesting. Not what I usually listen to but good. Fire away with some suggestions.

[Demetrio]

I have some few suggestions for you to start with:

- PORCUPINE TREE - In Absentia
- MARILLION - Afraid of Sunlight
- DOVES - The Last Broadcast
- THE CHURCH - After Everything Now This
- MERCURY REV - Deserter's Songs
- XTC - Apple Venus
- OCTOBER PROJECT - October Project
- RAY WILSON - Change

Demetrio.

[Slosh]

I really need some new tunes. I'm open to anything. I downloaded some flaming lips and stuff of that nature today and I must say it's pretty interesting. Not what I usually listen to but good. Fire away with some suggestions.

Well, what do you normally listen to?

BTW, you came to the right place if you want to hear new (or at least new-to-you) music. Send me a private message with your mailing address and I'll send you a couple discs worth of stuff to try out that has around forty different bands. Some of which I'm sure will be new. And as always, no trades required.

[Davey]

Probably best just to read some of the posts that pop up and listen to some samples. There's a thread going right now about the new Secret Machines <Now Here Is Nowhere</i> CD and I would recommend checking out that one if you like kind of a modern take on Pink Floyd. I think you can listen to the whole thing at their site. Nice 4.5/5 review in today's http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/s/secret_machines.htm

Lots of others, but without knowing anything about your taste in music it's kind of hard. Come to think of it, that's never stopped me before, so.....

I really love the Twilight Singers play Blackberry Belle from last year. It's the second album from Greg Dulli, formerly the leader of Afghan Whigs. I was just listening to it last week and it's so good. Lots and lots of listens over the last few months but it is still holding up strong. It's kind of a return to the harder rocking Afghan Whigs sound, but still retains much of the ambience and calmness of the first Twilight Singers CD which was recorded more of a Whigs side project along with Fila Brazillia. About the new one, I think AMG said something like Afghan Whigs meets Massive Attack. Very soulful, but with a hint of cool trip-hop sound too. Almost a Righteous Bros sound at times. And the closing song "Number Nine" (actually track 11 ) which includes the lyric containing the album title, <i>devil - sweet talkin fly on the wall / blackberry belle of the ball / just like you told me - I'm gonna crawl</i>, features Mark Lanegan as the main vocalist, with his deep Johnny Cash-like baritone setting the tone of the song, and then Greg Dulli taking over on the chorus and also singing background over some very nice music driven along by Petra Haden on violin, and toward the end with her background vocals joining the others, and then all by herself crooning a bit like Clare Torry on "The Great Gig in the Sky". Very nice closer. Others credited in the notes for some or all of the album are drummer Stanton Moore from Galactic, Prince's Purple Rain lover Apollonia, guitarist Alvin Youngblood Hart, and many other luminaries. Pretty nice recording too. Anyway, definitely worth listening to some clips if you like the Whigs mix of rock and soul, which I do.

Also, just got the new Honeydogs 10,000 Years and it's a very good one. Kind of like a modern day Sgt. Pepper in some respects. Conceptual with far reaching, intelligent lyrics, all wrapped in great Beatleseque melodies. It had a limited release last year and a full release just recently so should be widely available online. It's on the Aimee Mann/Michael Penn United Musicians label so shares some of their ideals for adult pop, and the two of them have glowing quotes about it at the label site, as you would expect, but I'll just post them below for fun. There are a few other less biased reviews online if you do a search. Some of the lyrics will probably have you reaching for either a dictionary or a history book, but who says all rock lyrics have to be written for little kids :)

<i>“I love The Honeydogs. Lyrics that display a social conscience, melodies I wish I had written and really interesting arrangements. And now here’s 10,000 Years. I love this record. Great Pop songs. Everyone should own this. It's like television...or paper.” - Michael Penn

“I've been playing their new record every day since I first heard it. It's a concept with great melodies and great lyrics and wonderful performances. A truly unique project but with classic pop songs...oh, if every rock opera could be this well-conceived.” - Aimee Mann
</i>

[Dusty Chalk]

Whatever you do, stay far far away from these suggestions:

Buckethead, Population Override
In The Nursery, Hindle Wakes
Einstürzende Neubauten, Silence is Sexy
The Gathering, Souvenirs
Blue Man Group, The Complex
Matt Elliott, The Mess We Made
Sigur Rós, ()
Notwist, Neon Golden

No seriously, just reel off like 10 disks that you would list amongst your favourites...you don't have to give a top 10, but give us a clue for pete's saki.

[Izlsnizzt]

Well here's an Idea of some of my favorite discs.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon SACD
Roger Waters - In the Flesh Live SACD
Alan Hovhaness - Mysterios Mountains SACD
Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Mr. Bungle - California
Thomas Murray - Transcribers Art (Organ)
Tchaikovsky - 1812 Overture SACD
Ray Brown/Monty Alexander/Russell Malone - Self Titled SACD

[Izlsnizzt]

BTW, I've got alot of your suggestions and they are all some really great listening. I feel like I'm being open up to some different music already which was my primary goal in joining this forum. Thanks guys... :)

[Davey]

I have some few suggestions for you to start with...........
Hey Demetrio! Long time, no see. Hope all has been well with you. That <img src="http://forums.audioreview.com/image.php?u=230050&dateline=1084314990"> looks familiar. Is that from a Pink Floyd album? Or where?

[Demetrio]

Hey Demetrio! Long time, no see. Hope all has been well with you. That <img src="http://forums.audioreview.com/image.php?u=230050&dateline=1084314990"> looks familiar. Is that from a Pink Floyd album? Or where?

Hey, big Dave, it's always great to join this awesome group, the only problem is that I have been so busy lately, there has not been too much time to come here more often.

As for my avatar, it was taken from a Galleon cd cover (this is a Swedish neo-prog band).

Best regards,
Demetrio.

[newtrix1]

I really need some new tunes. I'm open to anything. I downloaded some flaming lips and stuff of that nature today and I must say it's pretty interesting. Not what I usually listen to but good. Fire away with some suggestions.

I just heard their latest album Split the Difference yesterday and i can easily give it a generic recommendation. immediately accessible and catchy, yet interesting enough that it will likely stick for the long haul.
Their other albums have received quite a bit of praise on this forum as well. I can vouch for both In Our Gun and Bring it On (2 very solid albums).
Welcome and Good luck

[muziekfreak]

Pinkfloyd

Meddle
Wish You Were Here
Final Cut
Radio Chaos
Darkside Of The Moon

Kruder&Dorfmeister

The K&D sessions
Tosca
Peach Orchestra

Mike Oldfield

Tubular Bells Part I&II
Ommadawn
Some oldies yes, but still very good music to listen to :-]

Paul Reset with Drum and Bass Arenaset [very nice]
Moving Shadows [Budget D&b series that are no longer available in the stores here in holland :-[
Morcean Worker [A very good cd]

And there are plenty more to listen to

TIP: try kazaa or emule to find music, It works for me

Greetings Muziekfreak

[ForeverAutumn]

Well here's an Idea of some of my favorite discs.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon SACD
Roger Waters - In the Flesh Live SACD
Alan Hovhaness - Mysterios Mountains SACD
Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Mr. Bungle - California
Thomas Murray - Transcribers Art (Organ)
Tchaikovsky - 1812 Overture SACD
Ray Brown/Monty Alexander/Russell Malone - Self Titled SACD

Some fine disks on your list. PF and DT are two of my favourites as well. Take another look at Demetrio's list (Hey D, great to see you! You've been missed around here :) ). I don't know everything on his list but I'm thinking that Porcupine Tree and Marillion would be up your alley.

In addition:
Opeth - Damnation (although a little on the mellow side)
Chain - Recontruct
Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley
Cryptic Vision - Moments of Clarity
The Mars Volta - De-loused In the Comatorium
Queens of the Stoneage - Songs for the Deaf
Queensryche
Spock's Beard

If you haven't already, try some older DT. Scenes From a Memory is their best work IMHO. Falling Into Infinity has a bit more of a classic rock sound...probably their most commercially accessable disk. Their new disk, Train of Thought is also very good and has some technically awesome musicianship.

This is definately the place to be if you're looking for introductions to new tunes. Except for Queensryche and Cryptic Vision, every other band listed above came to me as a recommendation from someone here.

Good listening!

[Dave_G]

Dood,

you need to only listen to what Demetrio and I recommend.

The music those other guys listen to is just too weird. :rolleyes:

You might enjoy The Clash - London Calling ; Yes - Close to the Edge ; Rush - Moving Pictures ; Kansas - Leftoverture (newly remastered) ; Genesis - A Trick of the Tail, and last but not least, Deep Purple - Machine Head.

Rock on, glad to see some new people posting here.

Dave

[Toady]

Sigur Rós, ()
Notwist, Neon Golden


sigur ros is wonderfully new for most people. great recommendation there.

the notwist are a fantastic band. i actually prefer Shrink to Neon Golden, but both are great.




The Gathering, Souvenirs


and here we have our first disagreement, Dusty. this happens to be among the worst "people said it was great" albums i've ever heard. her voice is amazing, but it can't save this band or their lame compositions. IMO, of course.

todd

[Toady]

oops, i should offer some as well...

pinback - blue screen life (i've talked it up a lot in my short time here)

the 6 parts 7

explosions in the sky

califone - quicksand/cradlesnakes

broken social scene

the wrens

mice parade

converge

if you've heard of any of these and care for them, i'll be happy to venture deeper into whatever genre they fit into for more picks...

todd

[mad rhetorik]

and here we have our first disagreement, Dusty. this happens to be among the worst "people said it was great" albums i've ever heard. her voice is amazing, but it can't save this band or their lame compositions. IMO, of course.

Yeah, <b>Souvenirs</b> isn't too great. However, dig around a little bit into their back catalog and you'll find <b>Mandylion</b> and <b>Nighttime Birds</b>. They lean more on the heavier side, check 'em out. Also worth investigating is Laguna Coil. <b>Comalies</b> has been one of my more frequently spun discs lately.

[ForeverAutumn]

Kansas - Leftoverture (newly remastered)

What's this?! Newly remastered? Dave, why have you not posted this urgent and extremely interesting piece of information until now? Why have you been holding back?

How recently?

And why isn't there a jumping up and down with excitement smiley?

[Dave_G]

I posted about this release when it originally was released on remaster.

Can't remember when it was.

But it is :

INCREDIBLE

AMAZING

BEAUTIFUL

STUNNING

POWERFUL

EMOTIVE

And not very expensive either.

Plus two more remasters are coming out soon, "Kansas" and "Song for America".

You know, if pressed, I might venture to say that Kansas is my favorite all around rock band. The older albums are just so great, no other band quite did it up like they did.

If you need a Kansas fix in your diet, just let Uncle Dave know, and he will take care of ya.

Dave

[mad rhetorik]

I don't know everything on his list but I'm thinking that Porcupine Tree and Marillion would be up your alley.

In addition:
Opeth - Damnation (although a little on the mellow side)
Chain - Recontruct
Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley
Cryptic Vision - Moments of Clarity
The Mars Volta - De-loused In the Comatorium
Queens of the Stoneage - Songs for the Deaf
Queensryche
Spock's Beard

Good choices all-around.

Opeth flat-out rule. They're one of the most unique metal outfits out there right now. <b>Damnation</b> is the place to start. It sticks almost entirely to their soft folky/jazzy side and there's no harsh growled vox like in their other albums which alternate between loud and soft stylings. If you have the inclination, check out <b>Morningrise</b> (best metal album of the '90s IMO), <b>Deliverence</b>, <b>Still Life</b>, and <b>Blackwater Park</b>. Be warned that it will probably take a few listens to get accustomed to the harsher parts of Opeth's sound, unless you already have a well-developed taste for this sort of thing.

Kyuss and Queens Of The Stone Age (a Kyuss spinoff) both have great albums. Check out <b>Blues For The Red Sun</b> and <b>Rated R</b>, respectively. Queens Of The Stone Age are no more, but Josh Homme, the guitarist of Kyuss/QOTSA, plays <i>drums</i> for another outfit called The Eagles Of Death Metal (who do not sound like The Eagles, nor are they death metal). Might as well check them out too.

After listening to Dave Grohl's excellent work on the skins in QOTSA's <b>Songs For The Deaf</b>, you should check out the other albums he has drummed on, like the latest Killing Joke disc and his metal side project Probot. The latter features a "who's-who" list of metal vocalists from various '80s underground outfits.

Mars Volta is great, and <b>Deloused..</b> is a fave of mine. Also look into Cedric Bixler and Omar Rodriguez's prior outfit, At The Drive-In, and their last album <b>Relationship Of Command</b>. A pretty mindblowing release if you ask me.

Queensryche's two best albums are <b>Operation Mindcrime</b> and <b>Rage For Order</b>. They both have been recently remastered w/ bonus tracks. Don't bother with the albums after <b>Mindcrime</b> unless you don't mind Bon Jovi-esque cheese. Also worth considering if you like Queensryche is Fates Warning, and of course Rush (ugh, can't believe I'm the one giving a Rush recc). As a DT fan, if you enjoy prog metal with a high emphasis on technicality, try Spiral Architect--rock doesn't get more intricate than that. Also worthy in this respect is Gordian Knot, an instrumental prog metal/fusion outfit led by the excellent bassist and songwriter Sean Malone, and featuring players from King Crimson and Dream Theater among others.

Porcupine Tree is also excellent, and Steve Wilson is one of the foremost prog artists in the world today. Start with <b>In Absentia</b>, but look into all of their other releases as well.

If you like Todd's Converge recc, I'd check out Dillinger Escape Plan's <b>Calculating Infinity</b>, which is a favorite of mine (and also appears to be a fave of Jar's, as well). Blazingly fast and insane math-metal, not for the faint of heart.

There's lots of good stuff out there... here's a few other albums to try:

Metal:
Megadeth: <b>Rust In Peace</b>
Iron Maiden: <b>Number Of The Beast</b>, <b>Powerslave</b>
Metallica: <b>Ride The Lightning</b>, <b>Master Of Puppets</b>, <b>..And Justice For All</b>
Death: <b>Human</b>, <b>Individual Thought Patterns</b>, <b>The Sound Of Perseverence</b>
Meshuggah: <b>Nothing</b>

Prog:
Tool: <b>Lateralus</b>
King Crimson: <b>Larks' Tongues In Aspic</b>, <b>Red</b>, <b>Discipline</b>, <b>THRAK</b>
Frank Zappa: <b>One Size Fits All</b>, <b>Hot Rats</b>, <b>Waka/Jawaka</b>, <b>Apostrophe</b>, <b>Freak Out!</b>
Can: <b>Tago Mago</b>
King's X: <b>Gretchen Goes To Nebraska</b>, <b>Dogman</b>
Radiohead: <b>The Bends</b>, <b>OK Computer</b>
Pink Floyd: <b>Meddle</b>, <b>Animals</b>, <b>The Final Cut</b>

Jazz/Fusion:
Miles Davis: (First quartet) <b>Kind Of Blue</b>, <b>Milestones</b>, <b>Round Midnight</b> (Second quartet) <b>Miles Smiles</b>, <b>E.S.P.</b>, <b>Files De Kilimanjaro</b> (Fusion) <b>In A Silent Way</b>, <b>Jack Johnson</b>
John Coltrane: <b>Blue Train</b>, <b>Giant Steps</b>, <b>Crescent</b>, <b>A Love Supreme</b>
Ornette Coleman: <b>The Shape Of Jazz To Come</b>
Charles Mingus: <b>Mingus Ah Um</b>
Dave Brubeck: <b>Time Out</b>
Mahavishnu Orchestra: <b>Birds Of Fire</b>
Weather Report: <b>Heavy Weather</b>
Jaco Pastorius' first album

Alternative Rock:
Soundgarden: <b>Badmotorfinger</b>, <b>Superunknown</b>
Jane's Addiction: <b>Nothing's Shocking</b>
Alice In Chains: <b>Dirt</b>, <b>Jar Of Flies</b>
Red Hot Chili Peppers: <b>Mother's Milk</b>, <b>Blood Sugar Sex Magik</b>
Smashing Pumpkins: <b>Gish</b>, <b>Siamese Dream</b>, <b>Melon Collie And The Infinite Sadness</b>
The Pixies: <b>Surfer Rosa</b>, <b>Doolittle</b>, <b>Bossanova</b>, <b>Trompe Le Monde</b>, anything else you can get yer mitts on..best band <i>ever</i>...

Punk/Post-punk/New Wave:
Wire: <b>Pink Flag</b>
Bad Brains: <b>I Against I</b>
Minutemen: <b>Double Nickels On The Dime</b>
Dead Kennedys: <b>Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables</b>
Husker Du: <b>New Day Rising</b>, <b>Candy Apple Grey</b>
Fugazi: <b>13 Songs</b>
Joy Division: <b>Unknown Pleasures</b>, <b>Closer</b>, <b>Substance</b>
The Cure: <b>Pornography</b>, <b>Head On The Door</b>, <b>Disintegration</b>
New Order: <b>Power, Corruption, And Lies</b>
Elvis Costello: <b>This Year's Model</b>
Joe Jackson: <b>Look Sharp!</b>

[Izlsnizzt]

For those of you guys who like Dilenger Escape plan check out a band called Frantic Bleep. I bet it's right up your alley. Very fast technical metal with some truly Mike Patton-esque break downs in the middle.

[Izlsnizzt]

I'll get to some more of these recomendations tongiht when I get home. Just got some Sennheiser HD-555 and a Headroom Little Headphone amp to have some fun with tongiht. :D

[Dusty Chalk]

Yes, your tastes definitely seem to align with Demetrio's, FA's, and Dave G's -- although ignore him when he says ignore the rest of us, you had Mr. Bungle on your list, and I don't think Dave G has heard that, otherwise he would have lumped you in with the rest of us when he said that what we listen to is just plain weird.

But Demetrio is the greatest prog recommender of all time, so definitely listen to him. He's a virtual similarities engine.

And definitely check out Mars Volta -- I would think that someone who digs Mr. Bungle could handle the transitions, but it seems to be a love-it-or-hate-it proposition, so try to hear it first.
the notwist are a fantastic band. i actually prefer Shrink to Neon Golden, but both are great.Hey, finally! Someone who's heard Shrink besides myself! Yes, all three of their most recent albums, Neon Golden, Shrink and 12 are great albums, on another board I listed all three as "masterpieces". And they're great live, too, completely different from what you'd expect if you've only heard Neon Golden. (They somehow turn into a guitar band live -- don't ask me how.)

And you listen to Mice Parade, too! Dude! :thumbs-up:
and here we have our first disagreement, Dusty. this happens to be among the worst "people said it was great" albums i've ever heard. her voice is amazing, but it can't save this band or their lame compositions. IMO, of course.Well, you're welcome. To your opinion, that is. Even though it's wrong. ;)

No, seriously, different strokes for different folks. You like to listen to stuff that's "different", I'm guessing...? See, I listen to everything, and I like what I like, including more song-oriented stuff (L, I even listen to Pop). I think the Gathering are simply fabulous, especially once Anneke joined, and everything they do is magical. Try giving them one more chance and find a copy of the Black Light District EP. But that's the only thing I'm guessing you will like by them. The rest will probably be too song-oriented for you. But BLD is almost post-rock.

Morcean Worker [A very good cd]I think you mean Mocean Worker (no first 'r'), and yes, it is very good and enjoyable.

[Izlsnizzt]

Anyone out there like the Blues? If so check out Ronnie Earl he's a Telarc recording artist. He does some real nice instrumental Blues with guitar and piano...Mike Patton is the genrally considered by me to be "The Man" along with Frank Zappa. MY favorite song by Zappa would have to be Rubber hirt (Anyone?).

[Izlsnizzt]

If you haven't already, try some older DT. Scenes From a Memory is their best work IMHO. Falling Into Infinity has a bit more of a classic rock sound...probably their most commercially accessable disk. Their new disk, Train of Thought is also very good and has some technically awesome musicianship.

I have pretty much all the Albums by DT...they're just so damn good....

[ForeverAutumn]

You know, if pressed, I might venture to say that Kansas is my favorite all around rock band.

More so than The Musical Box? I don't believe it!

Sorry I missed your original post. The information must have been lost in those lengthy paragraphs that you're so keen on writing. ;)

[Toady]

Hey, finally! Someone who's heard Shrink besides myself! Yes, all three of their most recent albums, Neon Golden, Shrink and 12 are great albums, on another board I listed all three as "masterpieces". And they're great live, too, completely different from what you'd expect if you've only heard Neon Golden. (They somehow turn into a guitar band live -- don't ask me how.)

i've seen them :D (i've seen just about everyone!)



And you listen to Mice Parade, too! Dude! :thumbs-up:

of course! i think adam pierce is a genius. he played on a recent Mum track, didn't he?




Well, you're welcome. To your opinion, that is. Even though it's wrong. ;)

No, seriously, different strokes for different folks. You like to listen to stuff that's "different", I'm guessing...? See, I listen to everything, and I like what I like, including more song-oriented stuff (L, I even listen to Pop). I think the Gathering are simply fabulous, especially once Anneke joined, and everything they do is magical. Try giving them one more chance and find a copy of the Black Light District EP. But that's the only thing I'm guessing you will like by them. The rest will probably be too song-oriented for you.

i listen to a lot of different things. lots of post-rock, lots of ambient stuff lately... but i still LOVE straight up rock bands like the wrens and others.

i've given the gathering their chance and i feel confident in my hatred towards them ;) . even made a point of seeing them live. left after 3 songs...

it just ain't happening :o

[-Jar-]

Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley


you like this?

Wow.

[-Jar-]

i listen to a lot of different things. lots of post-rock, lots of ambient stuff lately... but i still LOVE straight up rock bands like the wrens and others.


Have you heard Katatonia? Man, I dig their last few albums, but I haven't gotten the new one yet... though it's not really new anymore. I just love their deep heavy almost-shoegazer riffing and the depressed Cureish vocals.

Ever heard Acid Bath? They're one of my favorite metal bands of the 90's.. Dax Riggs has got to be one of the most amazing death metal singers.. though he use his entire range..

You should name some of your favorite concerts..

a few of the hundreds that I've seen jump out at me:

Ride/Slowdive
Teenage Fanclub/Uncle Tupelo
Skinny Puppy (Too Dark Park & Last Rites tours)
Butthole Surfers/Ed Hall
Jesus Lizard (like 9 times or something)
Helmet/Rollins Band
Monster Magnet/COC/Season to Risk
Sonic Youth/Sun Ra (Central Park NYC)
Primus/Fishbone
Primus/Melvins
Rodan/Craw
Entombed/Unsane

ok I'll stop..

-jar

[ForeverAutumn]

you like this?

Wow.

Is that a good wow, like "Wow, I can't believe that you have such fantastic taste in music"?

Or a bad wow, like "Wow, how could anyone like this crap"?

[mad rhetorik]

Is that a good wow, like "Wow, I can't believe that you have such fantastic taste in music"?

Or a bad wow, like "Wow, how could anyone like this crap"?

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=2003

I recommended it to you, so of course it rules! ; P

[-Jar-]

Is that a good wow, like "Wow, I can't believe that you have such fantastic taste in music"?

Or a bad wow, like "Wow, how could anyone like this crap"?

hehe.. well its just one of my favorite albums.. I just didn't know you were "down" with them. Now i want to send you a stoner rock comp. Though when it comes down to it, most of those bands are just imitators of Kyuss. Though I must ask if you've heard SPINE OF GOD by Monster Magnet.. I think you'd dig 'em.

-jar

[Stone]

If you haven't heard it, I recommend this (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70311062124552270&sql=Ahk1gtq5znu4a).

[Toady]

Have you heard Katatonia? Man, I dig their last few albums, but I haven't gotten the new one yet... though it's not really new anymore. I just love their deep heavy almost-shoegazer riffing and the depressed Cureish vocals.

Ever heard Acid Bath? They're one of my favorite metal bands of the 90's.. Dax Riggs has got to be one of the most amazing death metal singers.. though he use his entire range..

You should name some of your favorite concerts..



never heard katatonia. i'll check them out tonight if i get a chance.

acid bath rings a bell but i can't think of what they sound like, so i'll have to try that out too.

Converge is the only really heavy thing i'm into right now. well, that's not entirely true... i'm a huge fan of Isis as well. (boston area hardcore, represent! :rolleyes: )

i started a new thread about favorite shows.

todd

[mad rhetorik]

Mike Patton is the genrally considered by me to be "The Man"..

You too, huh? I own <b>California</b> as well, along with Faith No More's <b>The Real Thing</b>. Both albums contain some fave tracks of mine ("Ars Moriendi!" <b>!!!!!!</b>). I've also heard the <b>Irony Is A Dead Scene EP</b> that Patton cut with the Dillinger Escape Plan, and Fantomas' first album. That Fantomas album is some weird-a<a>ss s<a>hit--what else would you expect from an album featuring members from Slayer, The Melvins, and two members of Mr. Bungle? It's like muzak for asylum escapees or something.



...along with Frank Zappa.

Oh man, I can tell I probably like over half of what you own already...you're into classical, right? What do you think of Zappa's <b>Yellow Shark</b>? I think it's pretty damn good and I don't even like classical much.

Favorite Zappa song: Either "Willie The Pimp" or "San Ber'dino"

[-Jar-]

never heard katatonia. i'll check them out tonight if i get a chance.

acid bath rings a bell but i can't think of what they sound like, so i'll have to try that out too.

Converge is the only really heavy thing i'm into right now. well, that's not entirely true... i'm a huge fan of Isis as well. (boston area hardcore, represent! :rolleyes: )

i started a new thread about favorite shows.

todd

I assume you've followed Cave-In as well? To be honest, I've not heard much of their early stuff, UNTIL YOUR HEART STOPS has been on my wishlist like, forever. I know that track "Juggernaut" and it is killer. I adore JUPITER, but to be honest, ANTENNA just has kind of fallen flat with me. It started with the TIDES OF TOMORROW ep.. there's a couple songs on there I really like, but overall It let me down. I guess I was just high from JUPITER and the "Lost In the Air" ep. Both the songs on that EP are awesome, and I really had high hopes, but save for "Inspire," "Calypso" and "Deep Rising" - I really haven't heard that much that's totally blown me away like "Innuendo" and "Big Riff" did off JUPITER.

-jar

[Slosh]

Oops, maybe you're not going to like much on my comp but too late, I already burned copies so you're stuck with it now :rolleyes:

Hmmm.....well, on one hand you're a fan of Mike Patton so maybe...

....but then again I'd rather be pelted with pineapples (whole, or cans of even :p ) than listen to Dream Theater

Ah yeah. Well listening to music beats the bloody hell out of talking about it so we'll see.

NP: Super Furry Animals - Radiator

[ForeverAutumn]

hehe.. well its just one of my favorite albums.. I just didn't know you were "down" with them. Now i want to send you a stoner rock comp. Though when it comes down to it, most of those bands are just imitators of Kyuss. Though I must ask if you've heard SPINE OF GOD by Monster Magnet.. I think you'd dig 'em.

-jar

Well bring it on my friend. The stoner comp that is.

As Mad R pointed out, he turned me on to Kyuss earlier this year. And I can't thank him enough (thanks!). I grew up listening to a lot of stuff like Sabbath, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, and Judas Priest. Along with the proggier stuff like Yes, Kansas and Floyd. I took a break from the metal scene in the late 80's and 90's so I never really got into bands like Metallica and the like. My tastes have mellowed more to the proggy side as I've grown older, I guess that's why most folks around here think of me as a progger. But I still love a good head banging album as much as the next guy/gal. Bands like Kyuss, QOTSA, and Mars Volta have renewed my taste for metal. As long as the vocals are clean. I love a good distorted guitar, but I can't stomach the growls of death vocals.

I haven't heard of Monster Magnet, but after looking them up on AMG, I'm very interested. Let me know if you need my addy.

and....thanks for the offer!

P.S. While we're on the topic....what do you guys know about Masters of Reality? If I wanted to test the waters, what's a good disk to start with?

[Davey]

P.S. While we're on the topic....what do you guys know about Masters of Reality? If I wanted to test the waters, what's a good disk to start with?
I love that <i>Sunrise On the Sufferbus</i> disc. It's the one with Ginger Baker on drums and production. Not really too representative of the rest of their catalog since it's more hard rock than metal or stoner, but very cool and probably a bit more radio-friendly than some of the rest. Easily available for ultra-cheap on the used market, at least I used to see it a lot. Some pretty catchy and inventive songs.

[Toady]

I assume you've followed Cave-In as well?

not too closely. they're hard to avoid hearing around here though. i've liked most everything i've ever heard from them (i didn't like their latest at all). but i don't even own a record of theirs.

[Izlsnizzt]

You too, huh? I own <b>California</b> as well, along with Faith No More's <b>The Real Thing</b>. Both albums contain some fave tracks of mine ("Ars Moriendi!" <b>!!!!!!</b>). I've also heard the <b>Irony Is A Dead Scene EP</b> that Patton cut with the Dillinger Escape Plan, and Fantomas' first album. That Fantomas album is some weird-a<a>ss s<a>hit--what else would you expect from an album featuring members from Slayer, The Melvins, and two members of Mr. Bungle? It's like muzak for asylum escapees or something.




Oh man, I can tell I probably like over half of what you own already...you're into classical, right? What do you think of Zappa's <b>Yellow Shark</b>? I think it's pretty damn good and I don't even like classical much.

Favorite Zappa song: Either "Willie The Pimp" or "San Ber'dino"


Yellow Shark is some good shizznit. Have you ever heard of Frantic Bleep?

[Izlsnizzt]

Oops, maybe you're not going to like much on my comp but too late, I already burned copies so you're stuck with it now :rolleyes:

Hmmm.....well, on one hand you're a fan of Mike Patton so maybe...

....but then again I'd rather be pelted with pineapples (whole, or cans of even :p ) than listen to Dream Theater

Ah yeah. Well listening to music beats the bloody hell out of talking about it so we'll see.

NP: Super Furry Animals - Radiator

Don't worry Slosh I'll probably like alot of it. I'm not too hard to please. As long there is some though behind it, I can listen to it.

[mad rhetorik]

Have you ever heard of Frantic Bleep?

Nope, can't say that I have. If they're like Dillinger Escape Plan, Botch, Converge or other "math-core" bands plus a Mike Patton influence (as suggested by your earlier description), I'll have to give them a look. I also need to look into Cave-In's <b>Until Your Heart Stops</b> for a glimpse of their earlier sound--<b>Antenna</b> doesn't do this band any justice really.

[Toady]

<b>Antenna</b> doesn't do this band any justice really.

true that.

i just think converge is the greatest. even though they get labeled "mathy", nothing they do ever seems unnatural or forced to me. dillinger, on the other hand, always gives me that feeling. they're spectacularly talented and all, but i just can't get past the idea that a lot of what they do is for show.

http://www.convergecult.com/photos/31.jpg

i love that picture. he may be my favorite drummer.

and this might be my favorite album cover. i can't explain why...

http://www.convergecult.com/downloads/desktops/05.converge.640.jpg

[-Jar-]

true that.

i just think converge is the greatest. even though they get labeled "mathy", nothing they do ever seems unnatural or forced to me. dillinger, on the other hand, always gives me that feeling. they're spectacularly talented and all, but i just can't get past the idea that a lot of what they do is for show.


Ok, when I first heard Coalesce, Converge and DEP, my first thought was, wow, this is pretty cool, but the Dazzling Killmen did it first.

After listening further, I realize that these bands are doing some stuff that's pretty new and cool. I've had JANE DOE in my hand several times at various stores but have never picked it up. I'm finally starting to warm up to their sound a little from the few soungs I've (shhhhh) downloaded. Same with DEP.. pretty addictive. I wouldn't call them Dazzling Killmen rip-offs anymore, but the influence is there..

But anyway, just curious if you are at all familiar with the Killmen? It's a shame they didn't get a chance to play in front of more "metal" audiences (Duane Dennison from the Jesus Lizard told me once he tried to talk them into playing some metal shows, but they refused).. but they were a great band, not as hyper as DEP, but they could play and their sound was pretty menacing..

-jar

[Toady]

the Dazzling Killmen did it first.

i will definitely check them out.

Jane Doe is a work of art. it's an album you have to listen to top to bottom. it's both brutal and beautiful. tragic and soothing...

i really can't say enough about it, and at the same time i know i can't put my thoughts and feelings about it into words. (i actually think that album cover is the most perfect representation of what the album sounds and feels like).

the first track is just musical full frontal nudity. a total slap in the face that sets the tone for the rest of the album to follow.

i guess i'm saying the next time you have it in your hands you should buy it. haha.

todd

edit: you were mentioning how they take a little time to warm up to, and i agree. at the same time, i love how that first track on Jane Doe gives you absolutely no opportunity to warm up to them whatsoever. it's just balls out - here's what we are, like it of leave it. other tracks from the album could have come first to draw a listener in... but i like the approach they took much better.