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mad rhetorik
04-20-2004, 07:12 AM
Gotta have a Tuesday thread. Stuff in my player:

The New York Dolls: self-titled
Stooges: <b>Fun House</b>
The MC5: <b>Kick Out The Jams</b>
Echo & The Bunnymen: <b>Ocean Rain</b>
Metallica: <b>Ride The Lightning</b>
John Coltrane: <b>Blue Train</b>
Dream Theater: <b>Metropolis Pt. 2</b>

Demetrio
04-20-2004, 07:22 AM
It was a pretty good musical week for me this week, listening to some great stuff:

- RAY WILSON – Change
- T NAÏVE – S/T
- US – Eamon’s Day
- NATHAN MAHL – Shadows Unbound
- CARAVAN – Cunning Stunts
- WISHBONE ASH – Argus (Remaster)
- NILS PETTER MOLVAER – Khmer
- KIN ZA ZA – Number One in Shambala
- P.F.M. – A Celebration Live

Beyond these, I also received three new comps by Troy, all them also awesome:

- Trip 2
- Mental Flake
- Garage Band

Also worth mentioning, I watched some awesome concert DVDs during this past week:

- CAMEL – Coming of Age (watched it 3 times, and just can’t get tired of this wonderful concert dvd)
- MARILLION – Live From Loreley
- MOSTLY AUTUMN – The Story So Far

Demetrio.

-Jar-
04-20-2004, 07:31 AM
bought a cd by Appleseed Cast called MARE VITALIS (2000, Deep Elm records). Got turned onto them through a Davey comp that had the song "Fishing the Sky" - anyway, this is a pretty cool album by a young band doing a sort of interesting stew of post-rock and emo. Cul de Sac Eat World. Yea. Some nice textural guitar playing, though they do seem to rely on swirly, repeated figures a lot, common with this kind of music. The drummer is really good and his set sounds huge in the mix, the production overall is nice, if a little wooden. A little like a pencil drawing, that someone has rubbed a little bit with his hand by accident, it sort of has this haze, but it does fit the music well. Apparently, they've gone even more "post rock" since then by realeasing a double-album set "Low Level Owl 1 & 2" - and they do have a newer album since then that has gotten mixed reviews from what I have seen. It's always interesting to watch a young band sort of feel around for their voice. MARE VITALIS is very auspicious step in the evolution of this band.

what else..

Dillinger Escape Plan - CALCULATING INFINITY again.. hehe..

Hey Mercedes - LOSES CONTROL

The Prids - LOVE ZERO (thanks jc.. nice fuzzy goodness)

Slosh's new mix THIS TAINTED LIFE. It TAIN'T a bad comp at all.. I was amazed to find myself fully enjoying every one of the 18 minutes of "The Tain" by the Decemberists. Thanks for the fun.

My own Reggae Mix from last summer.. which reminds me I gotta get my head straight and start planning Jar's Reggae fest Summer 2004.. always fun to put a reggae mix together..

-jar

nobody
04-20-2004, 07:41 AM
Quick and partial list from me...

<b>cLOUDDEAD - ten</b>
Expiremental downbeat hip-hop. Personally, I hear more electronica influence than hip hop, but whatever. Interesting record that keeps creeping up on me the more I listen. If you liked Manitoba and the like last year this may be appealing.

<b>Tom Waits - Mule Variations</b>
Hadn't pulled this one out for a while. Excellent record that rises near the top of the Waits catalog. Went way too long betwen listens.

<b>Mott the Hoople: All the Young Dudes</b>
If there are any big Bowie fans of the Ziggy Stardust era that don't listen to this one, you're missing out. Title track and a cover of Sweet Jane are a couple highlights of a great album.

also listened to ...

Maxwell: Urban Hang Suite, Kinks: One for the Road, A bunch of Ray Charles, Dizzee Rascal: Boy in Da Corner, some Les Paul, Oscar Peterson: Nihgt Train, Charles Mingus: Ah Um, Judas Priest: British Steel, Gerry Rafferty: City to City, Hank Williams III, Husker Du: Zen Arcade, and a bunch of other stuff...

Mike
04-20-2004, 07:59 AM
Pulled out a few Bowie albums I ain't heard in a while
Station to Station, Young Americans, Aladdin Sane and Ziggy Stardust

Also listened to The Thrills, The Vines, The Stills
Ryan Adams - Rock n Roll
Dzihan & Kamien - Freaks and Icons
Robert Rich - Seven Veils (Davey put me on to this a long time ago - Thanks Dave)
Snow Patrol - Final Straw

Cheers
Mike

newtrix1
04-20-2004, 08:00 AM
:D
Zwan: Mary Star of the Sea
Doves: Last Broadcast
RHCP: (can't remember the album title, but it's got a cool song about shutting off your TV)
Speech: Spiritualized People
Pearl Jam: Live from Atlanta
Elton John: Captain Fantastic...

vinyl:
Sigor Ros: (black one)
Led Zep: Coda
Grateful Dead: Long Strange Trip

comps:
Mentalflake: Troy

DarrenH
04-20-2004, 08:15 AM
Bob Marley - Exodus.
Marley comp from Geezer
Stan Ridgway - Partyball
Opeth - Deliverance. Been meaning to pick up Blackwater Park but I keep putting it off.
Joe Jackson - Night and Day.
XTC - Oranges and Lemons. Each time I listen to this it gets better.
XTC - Skylarking. Ditto.
Split Enz - Conflicting Emotions. Still growing on me.
Kraftwerk - The Mix. Not my cuppa. Pretty indigestible.
Asia - Astra. The first song was good the rest sucked. I remember hearing "Go" on the raydidio back in the day. I bought the cassette which is now languishing in a cool, dark place.
Kerry Livgren - Seeds of Change. Excellent. Nice to hear Ronnie James Dio in there.
Steve Walsh - Schemer Dreamer. Not bad but very formulaic in the 1980's arena rock style.
Zappa - Hot Rats. Great stuff. Been trying to find The Grand Wazoo short of ordering the damn thing.
Zappa - Jazz From Hell. I don't like this. Too inorganic. To much synclavier (which is a fancy word for digital music processing machine ala 1986). Troy's Garage Band effort was better. This won a Grammy :confused:
Zappa - One Size Fits All. Much better thank you.
Pink Floyd - Animals. This will be fresh 20 years from now. Timeless music.
Tull - Bursting Out, A and Stormwatch
Fuzzy Duck - Fuzzy Duck. I just love this 1970 UK rock band that only made this one album.
Mosty Autumn - Heroes Never Die. A greatest hits thing remastered and remixed by Bryan Josh who is the primary song writer and guitar player for the band.
Radiohead - The Bends. I'm not connecting with this like I did with OK Computer. I will keep trying.

That is all.

Darren

Dave_G
04-20-2004, 08:17 AM
Demetrio,

That Camel is perhaps the best ever dvd I have seen. It's simply stunning as to how good Andy is. Plus Colin Bass is no slouch, and that drummer, well, he is superb. I am glad to know you finally got to own this incredible dvd.

You would enjoy a lot the new Pallas dvd and the new Arena dvd too.

Regards,

Dave

Davey
04-20-2004, 08:47 AM
bought a cd by Appleseed Cast called MARE VITALIS (2000, Deep Elm records). Got turned onto them through a Davey comp that had the song "Fishing the Sky".......Apparently, they've gone even more "post rock" since then by realeasing a double-album set "Low Level Owl 1 & 2" - and they do have a newer album since then that has gotten mixed reviews from what I have seen. It's always interesting to watch a young band sort of feel around for their voice. MARE VITALIS is very auspicious step in the evolution of this band.
Hmmmmm.....I don't even have Mare Vitalis so that was some trick on my part to comp a song from it, eh? Maybe someone else? Or maybe you were thinking of that Daydream comp, there were two songs from Low Level Owl 1, and also on the first Song of the Day comp there were two other songs from that same Low Level Owl. Brilliant album that remains a favorite of the 00's for me but that's still the only one I have, although I've often been tempted to get Volume 2 which remains a fixture on my wishlist (although it slips down every time I add something which means it's pretty far down now :)). Stoney really liked the last album, as did many other people, but it did get a mixed critical reception. Guess it kind of straddled the two somewhat different directions the band has been taking and some people didn't like that, thinking that they weren't moving forward. You know how critics are!

EDIT I: And here's what I can come up with for the week in review....

Emitt Rhodes
Best of Brian Eno (a Davey comp)
Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
Modest Mouse - Good News...
Twilight as played by the Twilight Singers
Electrelane - The Power Out
Volume 5 • 1972-1995 • Reggae Roots
Best of REM (IRS)
Faces - A nod is as good as a wink.....
PJ Harvey - Is This Desire?

Just got Poll This by tentoze last night so in the middle of a spin now. Some nice stuff. Maybe not al solid old, but it is only the first spin ;-)

EDIT II: Wow, just got to Willard Grant Conspiracy. Those guys can do no wrong. Love it like fresh air.

Jim Clark
04-20-2004, 09:20 AM
Les see:

The Early Gurus of Electronic Music: V/A. Really cool three disc set with an incredibly large + informative booklet with some info on all of the tracks with the forward penned by Brian Eno. I think the first one track is from the 1920's. Unfortunately I don't think it would be nearly as cool wtithout the companion piece.

Lynn Miles-Unravel. Kind of a Canadian Lucinda. Couple of good toons, probably more if you're into alt. country.

Turin Brakes-Ether Song. Very much like Starsailor Brit pop

The Trainspotting Soundtrack-putting the Rave back into rave recs.

Lot's and lots of Gary Numan, especially live. Speaking of live Gary Numan, I spotted a new 2 disc live album at Best Buy yesterday. It's a '97 performance so I doubt I'll grab it, but then again...

Various comps that I need to take some time to mention, especially Troy's cover comp and his comp of original compositions. Both are very cool and I've been remiss to not mention them or send Troy an email. Been busy is my only excuse. Actually got offered a job out of the blue a few weeks ago so I'm back to getting a paycheck, not big by any means, but a paycheck none the less. Still busy doing my other things which is nice because I'm the boss and can listen to whatever I want. I guess I'm saying sorry for the delay in response and thank you Troy!

More but I've got to get back at it.

jc

dld
04-20-2004, 09:37 AM
Not a lot, but all very good

New Pornographers - Electric version. CeeDee. Good Lord! Where has this been for the last year? The boy lent it to me. Dad's gonna stiff him. Its staying.

Lets Active - Cypress/Afoot. CeeDee. Just as good as the above. only had a great boot from BradH as a reference for Lets Active. Glad I sprung for this new remaster.

Willie Nelson - Phases and Stages. LP. My first Willie, the best Willie

Jerry Jeff Walker - Viva Terlingua. LP. My first, his best...

Neil Diamond - Hot August Nights 2 LP. Put in on in the living room, raised the windows, and had a few margaritas on the deck with Mrs. Nasty at sunset listening to this. Not bad at all.....

White Stripes - Elephant 2LP. Damn, this is great! Why hasn't anybuddy mentioned these guy/gal? (kidding). Side two, cuts 2,3, & 4 are just awesome. I wasn't going to get this, but Circuit City has the vinyl, colored vinyl, for $12.99 w/free shipping so,.....

http://entertainment.circuitcity.com/Music/Album.aspx?a_id=R+++630295&p_id=P+++371524&prodid=VTW27148.1

Gil Scott Heron - Best Of. LP. Winter In America and The Revolution Will Not Be Televised are probably now considered to be rather sophmoric, but back in 1975 or therebouts, it was pretty fookin radical.


Thats about it. A buncha imported classical and RCA shaded dogs classical LPs, but I'm not familiar enuf with composers and orchestras/conductors to give a decent reference from memory. I do remember some great music from Peer Gynt and some van Cliburn that was borderline stunning on London.

Whooptee
04-20-2004, 09:45 AM
Let's see, from my pile, this is everything I listened to in the past week:

Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Luna - Penthouse
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls and Marches
Built to Spill - Keep It Like a Secret
Clinic - Walking With Thee
...Trail of Dead - Source Tags and Code
Kids s/t
CKY - Infilitrate, Destroy, Rebuild - I don't know what I saw in this POS before, but I ain't liking it much anymore.
Sonic Youth - Hold That Tiger
Eleventh Dream Day - Stalled Parade

John

Troy
04-20-2004, 10:10 AM
Darren say:
Zappa - Jazz From Hell. I don't like this. Too inorganic. To much synclavier (which is a fancy word for digital music processing machine ala 1986). Troy's Garage Band effort was better.

I say: "yikes".

-Jar-
04-20-2004, 10:29 AM
Hmmmmm.....I don't even have Mare Vitalis so that was some trick on my part to comp a song from it, eh? Maybe someone else? Or maybe you were thinking of that Daydream comp, there were two songs from Low Level Owl 1, and also on the first Song of the Day comp there were two other songs from that same Low Level Owl. Brilliant album that remains a favorite of the 00's for me but that's still the only one I have, although I've often been tempted to get Volume 2 which remains a fixture on my wishlist (although it slips down every time I add something which means it's pretty far down now :)). Stoney really liked the last album, as did many other people, but it did get a mixed critical reception. Guess it kind of straddled the two somewhat different directions the band has been taking and some people didn't like that, thinking that they weren't moving forward. You know how critics are!



I guess you're magic then. Actually, someone around here put that song on a comp, because I ripped it off there and slapped it on one of my own I made last year. I guess I associated the band with you because of the other tunes you put on comps, but I guess with that particular track, it was someone else. I suppose most likely it was Rae then. Yea, I bet it was Rae, from that GET YER ASS OUT comp, now that I think of it. How can one forget that 2 disc comp with the sweaty naked fat man on the cover. But yea, they're good, and I look forward to hearing those LOW LEVEL OWLS.

-jar

Javier
04-20-2004, 10:31 AM
at least in pieces since my computer got a virus so hard drive was reformated so all my music was gone now in the process of get everithing back into it plus got an Ipod ( this little thing is a blast in my car you know most of your cd at your fingertips).

Porcupine tree DVD audio, finaly could grab this one from my local best buy and is excellent ( i really love the cd).
Dead can dance aion and serpent egg.

Davey
04-20-2004, 10:40 AM
Robert Rich - Seven Veils (Davey put me on to this a long time ago - Thanks Dave)

Isn't that one of the most incredible recordings you've ever heard? Great music too. Love it. Haven't listened to it in ages myself - need to pull that one out and give it a few spins.

Been hearing a lot of good stuff about that new Snow Patrol. You guys around here sure are on top of things these days. How do you like it? RIYL?

EDIT: Oh, I see that the Snow Patrol has been available in "a sometimes wet and damp York, England" for about half a year. It was just released here a couple weeks ago, I think. Looks like you get bonus tracks too! Of course, you guys pay about $25 for your CDs too, eh? :)

Troy
04-20-2004, 10:44 AM
Some NEW stuff this week.

Stan Ridgway has a new album called "Snakebite". I got an advance copy a few days ago and it's pretty good. The writing is as enjoyable as ever, but I find the arrangements to be a little too sparse for my taste. there's a great song on here; "Talking Wall of Voodoo Blues" about the history of WOV and how they were just a bunch of kids that got screweed by the business. It's really tongue in cheek, yet still bitter as hell. Overall, the songs are similar to Anatomy, but the arrangements are similar to Black Diamond. Fans will love it, but it's not the place for newbies.

Air- Talkie Walkie. Found myself in a Tower over the weekend and they were playing this in the store. I LOVED it's low key and simple melodic style. It's arty as all hell, yet poppy at the same time. Mellow sunday music.

Mad Rhetorik sent me "Spiral Architect", a prog metal disc and I gotta just say "NO!" Didn't like it one bit. It's just a bunch of notes streaking up and down scales with a screechy catterwauling singer. The writing and melody was pretty much non existant from where I sit. Sorry. Thanks for sending it Mad, it was worth a try . . .

And I'm glad that you guys are spinning and enjoying the Garage Band disc. It was an incredible amount of work to compose and construct. Thanks for taking the time to give it listen.

DarrenH
04-20-2004, 10:49 AM
Darren say:
Zappa - Jazz From Hell. I don't like this. Too inorganic. To much synclavier (which is a fancy word for digital music processing machine ala 1986). Troy's Garage Band effort was better.

I say: "yikes".

I take it you don't agree. You're a Zappa freak, you know what Jazz From Hell sounds like right?

Your Garage Band stuff was much more interesting and had a more organic sound than FZ's album. I'm not saying what FZ was trying to do was wrong or awful or stupid or anything it's just that I didn't like it. I suppose 18 years of technological advances was to your advantage. Frank did the best he could with what was available.

Anyway, great job on the Garage Band comp Troy.

Darren

Jim Clark
04-20-2004, 11:16 AM
Some NEW stuff this week.

Stan Ridgway has a new album called "Snakebite". I got an advance copy a few days ago and it's pretty good.

Odd, mine isn't here yet! When's it coming out for real?

UBA!

jc

mad rhetorik
04-20-2004, 11:24 AM
Mad Rhetorik sent me "Spiral Architect", a prog metal disc and I gotta just say "NO!" Didn't like it one bit. It's just a bunch of notes streaking up and down scales with a screechy catterwauling singer. The writing and melody was pretty much non existant from where I sit. Sorry. Thanks for sending it Mad, it was worth a try . . ..

Yeah, Spiral Architect's not for everyone. The singer is definitely hard to get used to. I think it would have been better if these guys made an instrumental disc like Gordian Knot, since it is obvious that they have tons of technical ability. Maybe too much, in fact. At least they don't try to stretch the song lengths, I think it would just become too exhausting to listen to on a regular basis.

It is the band's first album, and looking at it from that standpoint it's pretty impressive. Hopefully by the next one they'll ditch the awful singer, and try to incorporate a little more melody into their music.



And I'm glad that you guys are spinning and enjoying the Garage Band disc. It was an incredible amount of work to compose and construct. Thanks for taking the time to give it listen.

No problem, mang. I'm glad you went through the trouble, it's been in my player quite a few times the past week. "Klaxon Dance," "Doppelganger," and "Morocco Mole" are all crazy catchy. And yes, it's better than what I've heard from <b>Jazz From Hell</b>.

Troy
04-20-2004, 11:52 AM
I take it you don't agree. You know what Jazz From Hell sounds like right?

Your Garage Band stuff was much more interesting and had a more organic sound than FZ's album.

Thanks for saying that.

Haven't heard JFH in a long time. 10+ years ayway. I recall it being brittle and kinda harsh. As you say, the tech that makes the timbres has improved vastly in 18 years.

Still, I think the writing on that disc is remarkable. It's about as fast and complex as can be. I've heard a few covers of some songs from that album by human bands and they are amazing songs.


Odd, mine isn't here yet! When's it coming out for real?

Well, it should be shipping by now. Congrats on the new gig.


I'm glad you went through the trouble, it's been in my player quite a few times the past week. "Klaxon Dance," "Doppelganger," and "Morocco Mole" are all crazy catchy. And yes, it's better than what I've heard from Jazz From Hell.

Thanks again. I just gotta say that JFH is an unfair comparison becuase the tech is so much better today. Imagine what a real musician, someone with a basis in theory etc could do with it! Nothing would make me smile more than to see what all you guys could do with it too. I'm working on some new songs too. I've developed a really great grindy guitar sound so I'm exploring that a lot. I'm also thinking about buying a mic. Lots of people have told me to add vox, but I'm more than a little intimidated by that . . .

Slosh
04-20-2004, 03:07 PM
Just got done listening to tentoze's new Poll This comp and it's a good one! With just one spin under my belt I can't say much yet other than it'll be in heavy rotation for a while :) (and I need to hear me some more Frames). See, this is why I haven't completely given up on this place :p

the list:

*Modest Mouse - Good News For People Who Love Bad News
*Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (DVD-A) bland, bland, bland
*Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide (LP) musically kinda similar to the PT album above, but done by a band with their own <s>f<a>uckin'</s> sound!!! (makes all the difference)
*Roger Waters - In The Flesh - Live (DVD)
*SFA - Guerrilla
*SFA - Radiator
*McLusky - My Pain And Sadness Is More Sad And Painful Than Yours (LP)
*Uncle Tupelo - Anthology (LP)
*Metallica - ...And Justice For All
*Beatallica - a bunch of sillyass mp3s
*A Sepultura comp I did for Stone and Rae a few years back
*Sparklehorse - It's A Wonderful Life (LP)
*Blonde Redhead - Melody Of Certain Damaged Lemons (LP)
*The Shins - Oh, Inverted World
*The Wrens - The Meadowlands
*BSS - You Forgot It In People

I forget what else

NP: Poll This again :)

Davey
04-20-2004, 03:23 PM
*Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (DVD-A) bland, bland, bland
*Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide (LP) musically kinda similar to the PT album above, but done by a band with their own <s>f<a>uckin'</s> sound!!! (makes all the difference)

Ya know, there's probably a few people around here that would love to trade you something for that PT DVD. I'm almost tempted to offer something just so you'll quit griping about it (I said almost :)). You might even be able to finagle a movie you haven't seen before, or a concert DVD, or something.

Oh yeah, and a lot of people are probably happy that more bands don't sound all whiney and dreary like SDRE ;)

tentoze
04-20-2004, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=Slosh]:) (and I need to hear me some more Frames).

Me too, Sloshy.....;) That cut is from Setlist- kinda worrried me to sling a live cut in the middle of stuff, but THAT song knocks me backward everytime I hear it, so I decided what the phuch- I'm on the hunt for some studio stuff now. Them Irish working-class boys rawk pretty good.

Stone
04-20-2004, 03:43 PM
Destroyer – Your Blues
Great album to these ears so far. It branches out a little stylistically from and is more laid back than previous albums, but is very nice.

Glenn Branca – The Ascension
I'm new to this and generally I'm not much into instrumental stuff, but this is simply amazing. I have no idea how to describe this, but it's 4 guitars (some of which, if not all, are out of tune), bass, and drums. Wild stuff.

Slayer – Haunting the Chapel EP

Telefon Tel Aviv – Fahrenheit Fair Enough

Dismemberment Plan – Is Terrified

Archers of Loaf – Vs. the Greatest of All Time EP

Odds – Nest
Picked this up used, along with another album of theirs, and both may go back. Pretty mediocre and boring.

Tripping Daisy – i am an ELASTIC FIRECRACKER

Afghan Whigs – Black Love

Mclusky - My Pain and Sadness Is More Sad and Painful Than Yours

Beatles – Past Masters Vol. 1

Howard Jones – Human's Lib

Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime

Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Now here's a "classic" album that I just don't get. I finally purchased it after years of not delving into his catalog. It's pleasant enough, but just not my style I guess.

Stone

Slosh
04-20-2004, 03:46 PM
Ya know, there's probably a few people around here that would love to trade you something for that PT DVD. I'm almost tempted to offer something just so you'll quit griping about it (I said almost :)). You might even be able to finagle a movie you haven't seen before, or a concert DVD, or something.

Yeah right. Like anyone who would actually want it would have anything worth trading for :p. Besides, it's already taken by a friend who likes Rush, Dream Theater, and King's X (although I don't hold that against him. Honest!)



Oh yeah, and a lot of people are probably happy that more bands don't sound all whiney and dreary like SDRE ;)

Yeah, but who cares about them?

~Slosh - my love is bigger than your love, sing it

DarrenH
04-20-2004, 03:52 PM
*A Sepultura comp I did for Stone and Rae a few years back


Could I get a copy of that Sepultura comp please?

I will gladly reciprocate.

I've got more PT if your interested :p

Or perhaps a copy of one of my two world famous comps. :rolleyes:

No SDRE though.

Private message me if you're interested. Or email me. You may or may not still have my home addy.

tullmanATcharterDOTnet

Dunka

Slosh
04-20-2004, 04:03 PM
Could I get a copy of that Sepultura comp please?

I will gladly reciprocate.

I've got more PT if you're interested :p

Or perhaps a copy of one of my two world famous comps. :rolleyes:

No SDRE though.

Private message me if you're interested. Or email me. You may or may not still have my home addy.

tullmanATcharterDOTnet

Dunka

I've gotcha covered. I'll even toss in a copy of The Rising Tide (sshhh) just to show that I'm not (totally) insane ;)

No trade necessary (unless I think of something later :) ).

BTW, I did make a CD-R copy of In Absentia but I doubt I'll spin it much more. I listened fully at least ten times and there just ain't nothin' there to sink my teeth into. Oh well, ya win some and lose some but at least I don't have to wonder what if...


I don't wanna talk about it
I don't wanna talk about it
I don't wanna talk about it
I don't wanna
NO!

Slosh
04-20-2004, 04:09 PM
Me too, Sloshy.....;) That cut is from Setlist- kinda worrried me to sling a live cut in the middle of stuff, but THAT song knocks me backward everytime I hear it, so I decided what the phuch- I'm on the hunt for some studio stuff now. Them Irish working-class boys rawk pretty good.

Hey, I'm an Irish working, ehem, class... boy. Yeah, I'll have to poke around the net to see which of their albums to start with. Probably has been mentioned at this very site, even.

~Slosh - rice is nice

DarrenH
04-20-2004, 04:17 PM
I've gotcha covered. I'll even toss in a copy of The Rising Tide (sshhh) just to show that I'm not (totally) insane ;)

No trade necessary (unless I think of something later :) ).

BTW, I did make a CD-R copy of In Absentia but I doubt I'll spin it much more. I listened fully at least ten times and there just ain't nothin' there to sink my teeth into. Oh well, ya win some and lose some but at least I don't have to wonder what if...

Thanks Slosh.

Stone
04-20-2004, 04:55 PM
Hey, I'm an Irish working, ehem, class... boy. Yeah, I'll have to poke around the net to see which of their albums to start with. Probably has been mentioned at this very site, even.

~Slosh - rice is nice

I have For the Birds, and although I think it's a nice album, it's not one that has made a huge impression on me and has been sitting on the shelf untouched for over a year. I'd say the 3-star rating at AMG may be a bit low, but not by too much. I'd probably give it a 7.2 on the P'fork scale.

chrisnz
04-20-2004, 09:42 PM
Been able to listen to quite a lot while at work this week...

Bent - Everlasting Blink
Nobody - Soulmates + Pacific Drift. Dusty was right, not earth shattering but worth keeping an eye on. Some compable tracks.
Lyrics Born - Later That Day
Manitoba - Up In Flames
El P - Fantastic Damage
Can Ox - The Cold Vein
Diverse - One am. Pretty fine, lots of RjD2.
DJ Krush - Code 4109. Minimalist instrumental hip hop with a few compable tracks.
Rjd2 - Deadringer.
Nina Nastasia - Run To Ruin
DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze and Product Placement. The ultimate DJ mixtapes, if you can find them...

Chris.

MindGoneHaywire
04-20-2004, 10:18 PM
Been so busy lately between DJing, returning to heavy Ebay CD selling for the first time in a long time, and actually starting a new part-time job myself (congrats, Jim!) that I honestly haven't been able to listen to much new music lately. I spent a good 2 or 3 weeks listening to nothing but the stuff I already bring with me when I DJ to get a better handle on what tunes to hit & which ones to avoid...the bar in question is very cool about allowing people to play whatever they want, though they want pretty much all upbeat stuff, no ballads...some would find this restrictive, but it's fine by me. So that took up a lot of my time. I did manage to hear a couple of really good things, though: the first, and most highly recommended, is a new Astralwerks comp of a singer named Candi Staton. I'd never heard of her, myself. If you dig 60s soul, in the mold of Aretha/Gladys Knight kind of stuff done by people like the Atlantic/Stax/Muscle Shoals type crew of people, this is right up yr alley. Some of those people were involved in this, can't speak to specifics right now, but it's definitely up there with anything in that vein, and if you're reading this far, then you probably know what I'm talking about. Look her up & get it. Outstanding 26-track retrospective.

Also dug the relatively recent issue of some 1960s Little Richard sides that he did for the Okeh label. 17 tracks, from around 1966-67, way past his heyday, obviously, but still mighty groovy, even if it's not as frenetic as his Specialty work. Chop a stranger up w/a hatchet for the Staton (or at least ask me to send ya a sampling), but keep an ear out for this as well. Definitely recommended.

Heard a GREAT new garage punk CD by a dang fine new garage punk band called the Little Killers. Much as I love so much that the Crypt label has put out over the years, its mere presence has never been an indication that whatever they put out is perfect, by any means. When it comes to stuff they've put out that was recorded within the last 20 years, I do love the Devil Dogs stuff, or most of it, at least (their 2nd & 3rd albums are as good as garage punk gets), but I thought they started putting out Raunch Hands records at least one album too late. And the New Bomb Turks & others struck me as acts that had all the right ideas & the right sound & the right approach...and no songs. Well, this Little Killers album is absolutely outstanding. No songs that jump out as being anything particularly special, just an overall feel & vibe that warms my tummy, not to mention other regions. Goo-ood stuff. Oh, and in a similar vein, the most recent Southern Culture On The Skids rec is pretty good, too. But the Little Killers rock a bit more & overall I got more jollies from it.

Heard a few things that were mostly just 'eh' but had a few good tracks here & there: a few blues comps from the Blind Pig label that feature scantily clad girlies on the covers; the most recent Kid Rock album; the soundtrack to American Wedding; a Rounder Records take on what Moby did with Alan Lomax's field recordings, called 'Tangle Eye;' a compilation of world music from South Africa, '16 Hits From The City Of Gold;' and the most recent Yeah Yeah Yeahs rec, which I like an awful lot better than the one they put out a couple of years ago. Still not quite my cup of tea, but there's at least a rock'n'roll tune worth hearing on this one, whereas the last one sounded like what I would expect John Zorn would've rejected as outtakes if he'd taken it upon himself to make a rock record.

Should mention that Rae was in NYC last weekend & my wife & I hooked up with him & we took a lovely walk from the South Street Seaport down to the Battery, up the Hudson through Battery Park City, and then through Tribeca, SoHo, & Chinatown before we collapsed at our LES pad & left him to trek up into the East Village to hit the fanzine store See Hear. We had a great day & a really good time with Rob, the 2nd time I've had the pleasure of hanging w/him. Unfortunately he doesn't have too much computer access these days; I think this board misses him.

Lastly, I am currently listening to a 4-CD box set that comes out in about a month--the Faces: Five Guys Walk Into A Bar. I don't think I had any of this stuff, really. Truly amazing, at least what I've heard so far. More than 5 hours' worth of stuff on this upcoming set, 67 songs, I'm sure it'll be an amazing package...very, very, very good. Get it when it comes out. I say it'll make a better investment than another remaster of a recording you've owned 5 different editions of over the past 30 years. Oh...I have a copy of Yes Remixed sitting here. Should I dare listen to it? If I can restrain myself then maybe I'll find the time to give Outkast or Radiohead another chance. But that just doesn't seem all that fruitful a proposition when I have Link Wray, MC5, Dave Edmunds, Wanda Jackson, Undertones, Howlin' Wolf, & Misfits CDs sitting in a stack in front of me, topped off with the soundtrack to O Brother Where Art Thou. But I will go back & give the new Toots & The Maytals duets album another chance. Dunno, tho, I only have so much patience for these Santana-esque collab efforts. It just wasn't that good.

Mike
04-21-2004, 01:22 AM
Isn't that one of the most incredible recordings you've ever heard? Great music too. Love it. Haven't listened to it in ages myself - need to pull that one out and give it a few spins.

Been hearing a lot of good stuff about that new Snow Patrol. You guys around here sure are on top of things these days. How do you like it? RIYL?

EDIT: Oh, I see that the Snow Patrol has been available in "a sometimes wet and damp York, England" for about half a year. It was just released here a couple weeks ago, I think. Looks like you get bonus tracks too! Of course, you guys pay about $25 for your CDs too, eh? :)

That Seven Veils is an incredible recording it has just about the deepest soundstage of any recording I own and sounds incredible even on my modest system, I particuIarly like the Eastern influence. I'd like to try some of his other works but he has a pretty extensive catalogue and I'm not sure you need a lot of his work. Unless you can recommend any others Allmusic seem to like Stalker or Fissures. Just another example of why this board is great for sampling something new - can't think of any other way I would have picked up on him.

As for Snow Patrol (RIYL??) I think it originally came out mid 2003 and then it was re-released this year with extra tracks. I've had it a while and at first I wasn't too keen but I've since gone back to it and it's not bad. Kind of indie-pop but I'm not sure it would appeal to you indie hipsters. And it was cheap one of the reasons I bought it! we seem to be doing ok in the UK now for CD's most retail shops sell new release for under £10 and online even cheaper.

Cheers
Mike

skewiff
04-21-2004, 04:13 AM
Been so busy lately between DJing, returning to heavy Ebay CD selling for the first time in a long time, and actually starting a new part-time job myself (congrats, Jim!) that I honestly haven't been able to listen to much new music lately. I spent a good 2 or 3 weeks listening to nothing but the stuff I already bring with me when I DJ to get a better handle on what tunes to hit & which ones to avoid...the bar in question is very cool about allowing people to play whatever they want, though they want pretty much all upbeat stuff, no ballads...some would find this restrictive, but it's fine by me. So that took up a lot of my time. I did manage to hear a couple of really good things, though: the first, and most highly recommended, is a new Astralwerks comp of a singer named Candi Staton. I'd never heard of her, myself. If you dig 60s soul, in the mold of Aretha/Gladys Knight kind of stuff done by people like the Atlantic/Stax/Muscle Shoals type crew of people, this is right up yr alley. Some of those people were involved in this, can't speak to specifics right now, but it's definitely up there with anything in that vein, and if you're reading this far, then you probably know what I'm talking about. Look her up & get it. Outstanding 26-track retrospective.

Also dug the relatively recent issue of some 1960s Little Richard sides that he did for the Okeh label. 17 tracks, from around 1966-67, way past his heyday, obviously, but still mighty groovy, even if it's not as frenetic as his Specialty work. Chop a stranger up w/a hatchet for the Staton (or at least ask me to send ya a sampling), but keep an ear out for this as well. Definitely recommended.

Heard a GREAT new garage punk CD by a dang fine new garage punk band called the Little Killers. Much as I love so much that the Crypt label has put out over the years, its mere presence has never been an indication that whatever they put out is perfect, by any means. When it comes to stuff they've put out that was recorded within the last 20 years, I do love the Devil Dogs stuff, or most of it, at least (their 2nd & 3rd albums are as good as garage punk gets), but I thought they started putting out Raunch Hands records at least one album too late. And the New Bomb Turks & others struck me as acts that had all the right ideas & the right sound & the right approach...and no songs. Well, this Little Killers album is absolutely outstanding. No songs that jump out as being anything particularly special, just an overall feel & vibe that warms my tummy, not to mention other regions. Goo-ood stuff. Oh, and in a similar vein, the most recent Southern Culture On The Skids rec is pretty good, too. But the Little Killers rock a bit more & overall I got more jollies from it.

Heard a few things that were mostly just 'eh' but had a few good tracks here & there: a few blues comps from the Blind Pig label that feature scantily clad girlies on the covers; the most recent Kid Rock album; the soundtrack to American Wedding; a Rounder Records take on what Moby did with Alan Lomax's field recordings, called 'Tangle Eye;' a compilation of world music from South Africa, '16 Hits From The City Of Gold;' and the most recent Yeah Yeah Yeahs rec, which I like an awful lot better than the one they put out a couple of years ago. Still not quite my cup of tea, but there's at least a rock'n'roll tune worth hearing on this one, whereas the last one sounded like what I would expect John Zorn would've rejected as outtakes if he'd taken it upon himself to make a rock record.

Should mention that Rae was in NYC last weekend & my wife & I hooked up with him & we took a lovely walk from the South Street Seaport down to the Battery, up the Hudson through Battery Park City, and then through Tribeca, SoHo, & Chinatown before we collapsed at our LES pad & left him to trek up into the East Village to hit the fanzine store See Hear. We had a great day & a really good time with Rob, the 2nd time I've had the pleasure of hanging w/him. Unfortunately he doesn't have too much computer access these days; I think this board misses him.

Lastly, I am currently listening to a 4-CD box set that comes out in about a month--the Faces: Five Guys Walk Into A Bar. I don't think I had any of this stuff, really. Truly amazing, at least what I've heard so far. More than 5 hours' worth of stuff on this upcoming set, 67 songs, I'm sure it'll be an amazing package...very, very, very good. Get it when it comes out. I say it'll make a better investment than another remaster of a recording you've owned 5 different editions of over the past 30 years. Oh...I have a copy of Yes Remixed sitting here. Should I dare listen to it? If I can restrain myself then maybe I'll find the time to give Outkast or Radiohead another chance. But that just doesn't seem all that fruitful a proposition when I have Link Wray, MC5, Dave Edmunds, Wanda Jackson, Undertones, Howlin' Wolf, & Misfits CDs sitting in a stack in front of me, topped off with the soundtrack to O Brother Where Art Thou. But I will go back & give the new Toots & The Maytals duets album another chance. Dunno, tho, I only have so much patience for these Santana-esque collab efforts. It just wasn't that good.

The Candi Staton is an awesome collection I've waited years for this to be issued. Worth every minute I've waited.
Portrays Candi in a much different light to the later Disco /commercial stuff that she had become known for.

The Faces my all time favorite band. I am totally geeked for this even though I have around 20 Faces boots this is the BIG one. Assembled by Ian McClagen the track list I have makes me all of a quiver shows what a great singer Rod is.

Tony

Davey
04-21-2004, 09:38 AM
That Seven Veils is an incredible recording it has just about the deepest soundstage of any recording I own and sounds incredible even on my modest system, I particuIarly like the Eastern influence. I'd like to try some of his other works but he has a pretty extensive catalogue and I'm not sure you need a lot of his work. Unless you can recommend any others Allmusic seem to like Stalker or Fissures. Just another example of why this board is great for sampling something new - can't think of any other way I would have picked up on him.

I only have the one CD so can't help you too much with more Robert Rich, but I think part of the sound quality comes from the Hearts of Space label that one was recorded under so I'm not sure what some of the previous ones sound like. I have read that he really flowered as a composer on the Seven Veils album so the previous ones might not be quite as accomplished musically. But that's just a second hand anonymous opinion. Probably better to look at the amazon reviews.

I can recommend another incredible Hearts of Space release from around that same time period of mid-late 90s --- Øystein Sevåg Bridge. Kind of along the line of ambient acoustic worldbeat-jazz with a few ethnic influences. Uses a chamber orchestra at times.Very nice. Here's an excerpt from http://www.6moons.com/worldmusic/bridge.html ....

"What makes Bridge unique is how seamlessly it blends neoclassical instrumentation and compositions with the dreamy ambience of space music plus choice elements from Rock, WorldBeat and Jazz using a constantly shifting palette of 68 musicians that include a complete string orchestra, Grand Piano, acoustic, electric and bass guitar, various flutes, recorders and saxophones, Indian, Latin and regular percussion, and synthesizers."

Another to try if you enjoy the middle eastern ambient music of Dead Can Dance is the similar sounding Vas. Their last album on Narada, In the Garden of Souls, is very nice and another great recording. Like Lisa Gerrard, the singer has an incredible voice. I think she has more range than Lisa and also very expressive. I did include a song on a comp I made for Demetrio named <a href=http://members.mailaka.net/davey/dbicomps.htm#Spirit_Trip><b>Spirit Trip</b></a> but I think he was the only one. You've probably heard most of it by now but if you want a copy just let me know. I think I have one still. It was kind of an odd collection :)

RIYL? = recommended if you like? Thanks for the Snow Patrol info.

ToddB
04-21-2004, 10:42 PM
MARE VITALIS... they do have a newer album since then that has gotten mixed reviews from what I have seen.

That album is Two Conversations, and it's a lot more focused than their earlier work. It's a stylistic change, though, to a more straightforward emo sound. I think it's the best thing they've done.

ToddB
04-21-2004, 10:50 PM
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (DVD-A) bland, bland, bland

I got the CD version because of all the hype I was hearing about it, and I think I made it as far as track 5 on two different occasions before I simply had to get rid of it. Bland indeed.

Absolutely love that Wrens disc, though. SDRE and Uncle Tupelo are always good, too.

ToddB
04-21-2004, 11:00 PM
Oh yeah, and a lot of people are probably happy that more bands don't sound all whiney and dreary like SDRE ;)

Whiney?!?!?! Dreary?!?!?!
Phfffffttttttt.
:)

ToddB
04-21-2004, 11:13 PM
The last week from Tuesday, eh?

The Fire Theft - The Fire Theft
New Order - Brotherhood
Echobelly - On
Denali - Denali
Denali - The Instinct
Texas Is The Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
Paul Van Dyk - Reflections
The Wrens - The Meadowlands
Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
Curve - Pubic Fruit
Curve - Come Clean
Ride - Going Blank Again
Elliott - Song In The Air
Before Braille - Cattle Punching On A Jackrabbit
The Letterpress - Input/Output
Dressy Bessy - Dressy Bessy
Insta - Checklist For Love
Death Cab For Cutie - Transatlanticism
Starflyer 59 - Americana
Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance
Fugazi - Repeater + 3 Songs

That's all I can remember...

-Jar-
04-22-2004, 05:35 AM
The last week from Tuesday, eh?

The Fire Theft - The Fire Theft
New Order - Brotherhood
Echobelly - On
Denali - Denali
Denali - The Instinct
Texas Is The Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
Paul Van Dyk - Reflections
The Wrens - The Meadowlands
Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
Curve - Pubic Fruit
Curve - Come Clean
Ride - Going Blank Again
Elliott - Song In The Air
Before Braille - Cattle Punching On A Jackrabbit
The Letterpress - Input/Output
Dressy Bessy - Dressy Bessy
Insta - Checklist For Love
Death Cab For Cutie - Transatlanticism
Starflyer 59 - Americana
Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance
Fugazi - Repeater + 3 Songs

That's all I can remember...

I like your list.. that Texas is the Reason album is great.. I was totally not into that "scene" when it came out, but after hearing it for the first time a few years ago, I wish I would have been. I actually sold a Mineral album back then (in the mid-90's) for a few bucks I think.. had no idea they would go on to be so influential..

-jar

ToddB
04-26-2004, 09:52 PM
I like your list.. that Texas is the Reason album is great.. I was totally not into that "scene" when it came out, but after hearing it for the first time a few years ago, I wish I would have been. I actually sold a Mineral album back then (in the mid-90's) for a few bucks I think.. had no idea they would go on to be so influential..

-jar

Thanks. That TITR release has become one of those "special" albums that I insist other people hear if they're not familiar with the band.. I hope the Mineral album you sold wasn't The Power Of Failing, and if it was, I hope you reaquired it at some point.