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frenchmon
01-26-2012, 12:27 PM
Seeing Roy Hall is the direct connection for the USA for EAT products....we can now see where he got his insperation for his mmf-11 TT.

MMF-11

http://www.needledoctor.com/Music-Hall-MMF-11-Turntable-Default-Zoom-Image.jpg


EAT Forte Turntable
http://www.euroaudioteam.com/c2/page-images/000007/000048-02.jpg


And I think Pro-Ject has a New TT about to be release soon that also share in the design.

02audionoob
01-28-2012, 08:36 AM
I like the EAT's idea of getting two belts on the platter; probably helps power through heavy passages.

Enochrome
02-02-2012, 10:23 AM
Do you think one spindle controls 45 and the other 33? Would their be some additional sync issues if both motors are active, instead of one passive and the other active. Passive in that it adds a small level of additional torque and guide stability.

02audionoob
02-02-2012, 10:30 AM
The motor unit would contain two relatively weak motors. The AC power fed to them would be changed in frequency to control the speed.

frenchmon
02-02-2012, 03:52 PM
This is the EAT Flat TT. Looks like it is going to be imported to the states under Roy Hall....called the Music Hall EAT Flat Table.

http://www.euroaudioteam.com/c2/page-images/000046/000037-02.jpg

frenchmon
02-02-2012, 04:54 PM
This is the EAT S-Table.

http://www.euroaudioteam.com/c2/page-images/000006/000001-02.jpg

This one is the Pro-Ject Xtention


http://www.project-audio.com/inhalt/bilder/tn/xtension.jpg

And this is Pro-Jects new TT that has yet to be released or named. This picture is from the 2012 CES

http://audiofederation.com/ces-2012/l/IMG_3556-pro-ject-turntable-small.jpg

Do you see the resemblance in the Pro-Ject, EAT and MH tables? I have always knew MH borrowed from Pro-Ject, but now we know that MH, EAT, and Pro-Ject have been sharing designs and idea's for some time now. I would love to get my hands on one of those EAT tables.

02audionoob
02-02-2012, 05:00 PM
I wonder if under that cover on the Pro-Ject we'd see a motor hanging on a rubber ring?

frenchmon
02-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Would that be a EAT design?

frenchmon
02-02-2012, 05:24 PM
You must be referring to the motor problems with some of their tables?

02audionoob
02-02-2012, 05:39 PM
I'm not referring to it as a problem. I just wonder how high up the ladder Pro-Ject goes with that methodology.

frenchmon
02-02-2012, 06:36 PM
From looking at the Xtention, the new table which I have discovered is called the Pro-Ject Signature, and the RMP 9 and RMP 10, the motor is different from the tables that had the hanging motors. The Pro-Ject site says that the new arm on the Signature is a genuine Pro-Ject design.

02audionoob
02-02-2012, 08:13 PM
I think it's the tonearms that make Pro-Ject. It wouldn't seem at first glance to make sense for Pro-Ject to outsource the arm or market a table with another manufacturer's arm.

frenchmon
02-03-2012, 08:07 AM
This is the EAT Flat Table. Does it sorta look like a Pro-Ject design? But it has two motors. The two motors do not run in parallel, but act like a virtual 24-pole motor. The belt encircles an inner sub-platter, which is fitted with inside bearing made out of bronze bushings. The main platter rests on an inverted bearing and a ceramic ball, with a Teflon lining on the underside of the main platter.

http://www.euroaudioteam.com/c2/page-images/000046/000038-02.jpg

And Music Hall is importing that table for $7k.

02audionoob
02-03-2012, 08:18 AM
That's a really clever design. I've never seen anything like it. But look at the similarity of those motors to the Pro-Ject motor I put in my Music Hall MMF-5.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4007/4693207841_2f736eedbe_b.jpg

frenchmon
02-03-2012, 08:24 AM
That's a really clever design. I've never seen anything like it. But look at the similarity of those motors to the Pro-Ject motor I put in my Music Hall MMF-5.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4007/4693207841_2f736eedbe_b.jpg

Yeah...they are about the same. And look at the arm on the flat table...I would almost bet Pro-Ject made it for EAT. ITs carbon fiber.

http://www.euroaudioteam.com/c2/page-images/000046/000051-02.jpg

frenchmon
02-03-2012, 08:32 AM
Im now starting wonder who made the arm on the EAT Forte S Table. I wonder if Pro-ject had a hand in it?