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pixelthis
04-18-2010, 10:32 AM
There was a warning the other day about the "new" 3D format.
Certain groups should not watch it for very long.
Could cause headaches and other symptoms.
And childern under the age of six shouldn't watch it at all.
Where did this warning come from, some hater of the new format?
no.
It came from Samsung, a maker of 3D TV.
I never thought this stuff was ready for prime time.
GLAD the peeps who make it agree with me.
TALK about a lawsuit just waiting to happen.....:1:

harley .guy07
04-18-2010, 03:13 PM
I knew there was something more to why I did not like the 3d tv's other than just having to wear those damn glasses.

E-Stat
04-19-2010, 06:33 AM
There was a warning the other day about the "new" 3D format.
Certain groups should not watch it for very long.
Could cause headaches and other symptoms.
Some folks get motion sickness and shouldn't ride roller coasters or view anything that might disrupt their sense of balance. As a pilot, scuba diver, skydiver and motorcyclist, it is the opposite situation for me. The flying scenes in Avatar rendered in IMAX 3D were simply breathtaking. The "thrill-junkie" factor went through the roof - give me more! :)

Such realism is not for everyone.

rw

3LB
04-19-2010, 07:44 AM
yep, looks like the death-nell for 3D TV

next thing you know, they'll say excess drinking and smoking is bad for you

dakatabg
04-19-2010, 08:52 AM
I just read that in the newspaper.

E-Stat
04-19-2010, 09:02 AM
I just read that in the newspaper.
Good Morning America had a spot on it today.

"Don't drink alcohol and watch!" (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/samsung-warns-tv-health-concerns/story?id=10395409)

rw

Hyfi
04-19-2010, 09:26 AM
So now they need to take a few of the Japanese Anime movies that cause seizures and redo it in 3D to be used for all 3D TV demos. That way, you will know at the store whether or not you should be buying one. If you are rushed to the hospital, you have your answer.

I do see this as a problem for those parents that think a PC and a TV is an actual babysitter and pay no attention to what they are doing and watching.

Parents will come home from work to find there children lying on the floor twitching and foaming at the mouth.

rob_a
04-19-2010, 11:27 AM
So now they need to take a few of the Japanese Anime movies that cause seizures and redo it in 3D to be used for all 3D TV demos. That way, you will know at the store whether or not you should be buying one. If you are rushed to the hospital, you have your answer.

I do see this as a problem for those parents that think a PC and a TV is an actual babysitter and pay no attention to what they are doing and watching.

Parents will come home from work to find there children lying on the floor twitching and foaming at the mouth.

Wouldn't that be great!

"The New High" 3-D Anime! Parents, your kids are not safe! :crazy:

pixelthis
04-19-2010, 12:29 PM
I have posted several messages that might constru that I AM "ANTI-3D".
Not so, but if they don't get this right the first time it won't come back for twenty years, if ever.
Get it right, whats the hurry?
As for peeps being "ready" for such "realism", that has nothing to do with weather or
not they have a physiological reaction to it.:1:

nightflier
04-19-2010, 12:35 PM
Where's lil't when you really need him? I thought he's be all over this one like a fly on...

E-Stat
04-19-2010, 12:37 PM
As for peeps being "ready" for such "realism", that has nothing to do with weather or
not
What does the weather have to do with it? :)

rw

3LB
04-19-2010, 01:10 PM
Where's lil't when you really need him? I thought he's be all over this one like a fly on...
maybe his last post left him feeling Goofy

pixelthis
04-20-2010, 11:56 AM
maybe his last post left him feeling Goofy


As opposed to just looking that way.:1:

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-20-2010, 02:49 PM
I knew somebody would take this out of context, and it figures it would be pixeless.

The warning was issued by Samsung as a means of protecting themselves from litigation from some fool who would become addicted to 3D viewing and damage his eyes, and to make sure that the unknowing would not view 3D when they have eye issues or some health or neurological issues. I have also stated this same thing on this forum as well.

3D can(I emphasize CAN) effect people who are intoxicated, pregnant woment, and people who have issues with virtigo, or the enability to focus on centrally located images. It can also have a negative effect on kids who's eye muscles have not fully developed, those subject to photosynthesis problems, are sleep deprived as it CAN cause an epileptic seizure or stroke when exposed to certain flashing images or lights contained in certain television pictures or video games.

According to the lastest research on this issue, that would be about 6% of Americans(and this is just a estimate.

IMO this is a non issue because viewing in moderation will not cause any problems with the remaining 94% of the viewing public.

Let's be real and put this in perspective, anything done in excess is going to harm you, even multi vitamins and water. This is nothing more than a warning issued to protect the CE companies from lawsuits brought on by 3D abuse by the viewer, and people with health and eye issues and trying to make the CE companies responsible for it. 3D viewed in moderation is not harmful to anyone.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-20-2010, 03:38 PM
Where's lil't when you really need him? I thought he's be all over this one like a fly on...

If you are alluding to the word $hit, I try to swat those flies off of you as often as possible. Or maybe that was your bull$hit......

I have already covered this in this thread

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=33526 Post #8

bobsticks
04-20-2010, 06:30 PM
yep, looks like the death-nell for 3D TV

next thing you know, they'll say excess drinking and smoking is bad for you


Say it ain't so!

...seriously

bobsticks
04-20-2010, 06:48 PM
The warning was issued by Samsung as a means of protecting themselves from litigation from some fool who would become addicted to 3D viewing and damage his eyes, and to make sure that the unknowing would not view 3D when they have eye issues or some health or neurological issues. . .

When I read the first post I assumed it was something of this nature...between the idiots and the scammers any kind of innovation is potentially treacherous...

..."Some people should die/That's just unconscious knowledge" ~ Perry Farrell

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-20-2010, 08:08 PM
As opposed to just looking that way.:1:

It is always those that have very little room to talk that always do. I should rename you Gumby, because rather than chewing chicken, you just gum it into small pieces.

3LB
04-21-2010, 09:48 AM
As opposed to just looking that way.:1:
no...Goofy...with a capital 'G', you know, cuz he works at Disney...get it?

nightflier
04-21-2010, 09:54 AM
Wonder how he puts on his 3D glasses over those big ears, lol.

pixelthis
04-21-2010, 11:43 AM
It is always those that have very little room to talk that always do. I should rename you Gumby, because rather than chewing chicken, you just gum it into small pieces.

At least I can eat chicken, would be cannibalism for you.:1:

pixelthis
04-21-2010, 11:46 AM
When I read the first post I assumed it was something of this nature...between the idiots and the scammers any kind of innovation is potentially treacherous...

..."Some people should die/That's just unconscious knowledge" ~ Perry Farrell

Such a "warning" won't hold water, legal or otherwise.
Cigarettes have warnings all over them.
AND DUMPTRUCKS say "stay back 300 feet", that has never saved them from having to pay for a windsheild.
You can't sell crack, with just a mention that its slighty addictive:1:

GMichael
04-21-2010, 12:01 PM
Such a "warning" won't hold water, legal or otherwise.
Cigarettes have warnings all over them.
AND DUMPTRUCKS say "stay back 300 feet", that has never saved them from having to pay for a windsheild.
You can't sell crack, with just a mention that its slighty addictive:1:
Maybe so, but you still can't buy a Bic lighter that doesn't say to make sure that the flame is out before you put it away.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-21-2010, 02:14 PM
At least I can eat chicken, would be cannibalism for you.:1:

I guess if you call gumming the chicken to death eating, you are right. As far as the cannibalism comment, you can clearly see I have never back an inch down from dealing with your sorry @ss

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Wonder how he puts on his 3D glasses over those big ears, lol.

Even if I explained to you how, you are such an airhead, you would understand anyway! LOLOL

Hyfi
04-22-2010, 08:44 AM
Let's be real and put this in perspective, anything done in excess is going to harm you, even multi vitamins and water. This is nothing more than a warning issued to protect the CE companies from lawsuits brought on by 3D abuse by the viewer, and people with health and eye issues and trying to make the CE companies responsible for it. 3D viewed in moderation is not harmful to anyone.

OK so you say. So who now is going to decide how much 3D is moderation? When HDTV came out there were slim pickins. People wanted more and got it. Now its hard to watch too many channels that are not HD.

Now we move to 3D. There is a limited amount of items to watch but people are asking for more more more. So if/when we get to the majority of programming in 3D, who and how will anyone be able to decide what is moderation.

As far as I know, viewing long periods of analogue or HD tv, does not cause any harmful health risks other than stupidity and possibly eye problems. If 3D is going to cause seizures and other problems for people who view long periods we have a serious problem to deal with. Parents plop their kids in front of a tv all the time as a babysitter and if the majority of programming happens to be 3D the kids are going to get harmed. That and adults who watch entirely too much boob tube.

As far as I am concerned, if a new technology has the ability of harming people, it needs to be refined until it doesnt because we both know most sheeple are clueless as to what moderation means.

nightflier
04-22-2010, 09:29 AM
...you would understand anyway! LOLOL

Of course I would.

Was that typo because the glasses where falling down? Too funny!

:ciappa:

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-22-2010, 01:27 PM
Of course I would.

Was that typo because the glasses where falling down? Too funny!

:ciappa:

BS, you don't even have the intellectual capacity(or basic common sense) to do research on topics you comment on as evidence of your continued use of others opinions to shape your arguments. You are a brainless sheeple, plain and simple.

Ajani
04-22-2010, 01:48 PM
As far as I know, viewing long periods of analogue or HD tv, does not cause any harmful health risks other than stupidity.....

That's a serious health risk and probably a lot worse than a siezure in the long run....

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-22-2010, 02:06 PM
OK so you say. So who now is going to decide how much 3D is moderation? When HDTV came out there were slim pickins. People wanted more and got it. Now its hard to watch too many channels that are not HD.

Hyfi, it is called personal or parental responsibility, something that seems to have fallen off the radar in our lives.


Now we move to 3D. There is a limited amount of items to watch but people are asking for more more more. So if/when we get to the majority of programming in 3D, who and how will anyone be able to decide what is moderation.

First, there will never be a the majority of programming in 3D, as some programming just does not lend itself well to the process. Soaps, some sports, and musical programming are not enhanced by the 3D experience.

There are warning signs when you have consumed too much 3D. Headaches are one big one. Dizziness is another. Just like with regular television, parents have to decide when their children are consuming too much, or if they can consume any at all. I know at least two parents who forbid their children from 3D because they fall into catagories that make it detrimental to their health. Like anything done you have to take personal responsibilty for yourself, and pay attention to how much you do anything. That includes driving your car when exhausted, drinking, excersize, exposure to sun etc. etc.


As far as I know, viewing long periods of analogue or HD tv, does not cause any harmful health risks other than stupidity and possibly eye problems. If 3D is going to cause seizures and other problems for people who view long periods we have a serious problem to deal with. Parents plop their kids in front of a tv all the time as a babysitter and if the majority of programming happens to be 3D the kids are going to get harmed. That and adults who watch entirely too much boob tube.

There are health risks to watching too much television, and I am surprised you don't know this. It can lead to obesity, sleeping disorders, violent tendencies, learning disabilities, increased fear of the world and this is just some of it. These warning are all over the net, outlined in various television programs(20/20 did a segment on it) various health shows, and family doctors

When parents allow their televisions to babysit their kids, then they are not being responsible plain and simple. I am reminded of a certain poster here who has some serious issues with Disney cartoons and animation, but allows his kids to watch them anyway(or this could be a case of hypocracy at its worst). Where is the personal responsibility in that? It is up to the parent, or yourself to know if you should consume 3D programming, or when you have consumed too much.


As far as I am concerned, if a new technology has the ability of harming people, it needs to be refined until it doesnt because we both know most sheeple are clueless as to what moderation means.

I know you don't work in the film industry, so you may not know that the studios are not just churning out 3D content like they did in the past. I just finished a 6 week course on the proper way of doing 3D so that it does not give headaches or cause dizziness in people with normal eyesight. The most basic way to do that is to minimize the amount of convergent images and fast motion so our eyes have time to adjust between a sequence of frames. There are many classes being offered in Hollywood for content producers, directors, and cinematographers, and they have been sold out or filled for weeks. The fact that 3D is now done in the digital realm(as opposed to film) is already a big step because its precision prevents problems that have occured in the past with film presentations of 3D(I have pointed those out in the favorite film section in my 3D post). If you have viewed good 3D presentations live Avatar, Night before Christmas, and Alice in Wonderland, you will plainly see that depth was emphasized over convergence, and that majorly decreases any instance of headaches or dizziness with 3D presentations.

bobsticks
04-22-2010, 02:55 PM
Personal and parental responsibilty?...we may be in trouble...

...3DTV...Darwinist Solution for the Sheeple

3LB
04-22-2010, 03:11 PM
there needs to be a legislative investigation on this matter, like steroids in baseball and dog fighting (but not dogfighting)

Sir Terrence the Terrible
04-22-2010, 03:35 PM
there needs to be a legislative investigation on this matter, like steroids in baseball and dog fighting (but not dogfighting)

Why? You cannot legislate personal responsibility or behavior, folks would scream too much government intervention. We have too many recent examples of this. Besides, there is next to nothing released to the public to make any conculsions. The very fact the CE companies released this warning shows at least some responsible behavior, and it is something the tabacco industry was forced to do.

I think we need to deal with banking reform before we get bent out of shape about this. It has already been proven to be a detriment to the health of the middle and lower class.