New Finds

[budgetaudio76]

heres a few photos. Spent a few hours trying to get it right...:yikes:




how do i make the photos display on the screen with out clicking the link. Gonna have to do some thing different.

lets see if it works.

[Geoffcin]

You need to use the [img] code

[dakatabg]

New finds for the week!!!

Energy 2.1E Bookshelf Speakers!

Kenwood KR-V107R Huge Receiver

Yamaha R-300 Receiver

Huge old Capitol tube guitar amp with 2 12" Jensen Speakers

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[Geoffcin]

you got a warehouse for all this gear?!

[dakatabg]

Geoffcin, I have a big storage so I store them. I sell some as well but if I see a great deal I go for it.

I post pics of the interesting gears because it is nice when you see a picture and something new!

[luvtolisten]

Nice score, particularly on the Energy speakers, never heard them but from what I have read they are very highly rated.

[dakatabg]

Hey luvtolisten, you haven't been here for a while. They are really great speakers, I was very impressed when I heard them. A week ago I got a Pioneer SX-1050

[luvtolisten]

Hi Dak, I saw the 650. Now a 1050 too? I've heard evrything from the 750 on up is special. Man, when you're hot, you are HOT!!

Things are slow here, all the college kids back in school buying up the goodies in the Goodwill stores, and getting too cold and rainy for the garage sales.

[budgetaudio76]

Man some nice finds in this thread. No tubes yet for me.

Some day.

[Glen B]

Here's my latest acquisition, a mint Classé DR-10. Its a hefty 46 lbs for a 100-watter. The 6 OP transistors on the top are the left channel. The right channel OP transistor bank is underneath.

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[dakatabg]

Wow, now that is a very nice score! I have never heard this amp but by the way it's build it looks great! Congrats Glen B.

[thekid]

Glen

Congrats on the new amp.
What else are you running with it?

[emaidel]

New member here so first post, but I had to comment on your find. I grew up with this receiver and remember many years worth of fond memories enjoying music through it. In fact, I was rummaging through the garage cabinets of my mothers house recently trying to find it, because it's a shame to waste, but she has no idea what happened to it and I couldn't find it unfortunately. Hopefully someone's enjoying it.

Enjoy!
Troy

I worked for Lafayettte Radio "in the day," and remember the full compliment of receivers of which the LR-2200 was one. All were actually first-rate pieces of equipment, easily able to hold their own against anything from anyone else, and all were also amazingly reliable too. The 2200 wasn't a quad unit, but a 2-channel unit that put out about 25 watts per channel into 8 ohms.

I believe there's a "4-channel" position on the speaker selector knob, but that was for a built-in Dynaquad system that most Lafayette 2-channel receivers had at the time. Either another set of speakers could be connected as a pair of "remote" speakers, or as rear speakers in the quasi-quadraphonic setup (Dynaquad) which, at times, worked very nicely.

Lafayette's ultimate demise had nothing to do with being competitive with other retailers, but from the mind-set of one man - Arthur J. Blackburn - who bankrupted the company in only 3 years, primarily by taking delivery of millions of dollars of obsolete 23-channel CB equipment after the FCC had already stated that only 40-channel units could be sold.

A once successful chain, then about 55 years old collapsed thanks to this man.

[Mr Peabody]

Nice amp Glen, I too would like to see what else is in the system. What are your impressions of the sound?

[Glen B]

Glen

Congrats on the new amp.
What else are you running with it?
I haven't figured that out yet. I just got the amp a couple of days ago. The first thing I do when I get a new used solid state amp is check the outputs for DC offset. The offset on this amp is quite low but stll needs zeroing out. After I do that, and check and adjust the bias to factory spec (if necessary), I will do some serious listening. The results of that listening will determine which of three systems it will find a home in. The other components in the evaluation system will be: Marantz Reference SA-11S2 SACD player, Classé CP-50 preamp, and PSB Stratus Gold i speakers.

[Mr Peabody]

The amp looks to be about perfect for rounding that system out, very nice.

Sounds like you are tech savvy, I wish you lived closer to me ol' buddy :)

[Glen B]

I plan on doing a few tasteful mods to the DR-10. Its open layout and fact that the op-amps are socket-mounted, lends itself easily to mods -- certainly much more so than my CA-300. I've been doing scratch builds, restorations and mods for the past 40 years. Here's a sampling of past projects:

DIY balanced power line conditioners/surge protector(s):
http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=5473

CA-300 binding post and power inlet upgrade:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/2009226

Phase Linear 400 Series 2 input and output connector upgrades and addition of DC protection circuitry: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/1927085

SAE-2400 refurb/re-cap/connector upgrades:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/1986567

Custom DC blocker - examples of some of the units built and sold to a few audio discussion forum members. Eliminates amplifier mechanical hum caused by saturation of toroid transformer from DC offset on the AC power line: Actually sold one just yesterday:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/2020464

One-off IR wireless learning remote switcher for Classé legacy amps with non-standard 12V trigger. Built and sold to an Audiogon member to trigger his CA-150 amp:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/2097974

[Feanor]

I plan on doing a few tasteful mods to the DR-10. Its open layout and fact that the op-amps are socket-mounted, lends itself easily to mods -- certainly much more so than my CA-300. I've been doing scratch builds, restorations and mods for the past 40 years. Here's a sampling of past projects:

DIY balanced power line conditioners/surge protector(s):
http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=5473

...
Glen, the link for the schematic for you balanced power conditioner in your original post doesn't seem to work anymore. Can you supply a new link??? I'd be very interested.

[Glen B]

Well, that was more than 6 years ago. I no longer keep that schematic. I scribbled something together (see link). Its a basic schematic. Surge protection is provided by a Littlefuse iTMOV, a three-lead varistor with an integrated thermal element that opens in the event of catastrophic failure, mounted close to where power enters the enclosure. The third lead can be wired to any type of indicating or cutout circuit. I use a simple indicating LED with dropping resistor and diode to provide 12V to illuminate the LED. The LED is mounted on the front panel of the enclosure, and indicates that power is on and surge protection is active. Opening of the thermal element also cuts power to the LED. The iTMOV can be eliminated if you choose to do so.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/191557/Balanced%20Power%20Schematic.jpg

[kiwi32]

Hey dakatabg,you looking to sell those energy 2.1e speakers?If so PM me,I am building a decent small room system and they would be perfect.
BTW,nice thread everybody,I like to check it out once in a while.It sure gives you some ideas for your next purchase!
Thanks.

[dakatabg]

Hey dakatabg,you looking to sell those energy 2.1e speakers?If so PM me,I am building a decent small room system and they would be perfect.
BTW,nice thread everybody,I like to check it out once in a while.It sure gives you some ideas for your next purchase!
Thanks.

Maybe in future if I decide to sell them I will let you know!

[kiwi32]

Not to put any pressure,but I am building it like...now!
I already got an energy sub,and front speakers are a few hours away until I decide between a few ones.
But with all the stuff you already have I'll sure understand if you decide to keep em.
Thks

[kiwi32]

I retract my offer,got another speakers set instead.Have a look here: http://2.ly/dgc5

Thanks!

[poppachubby]

I will no longer be acquiring pieces of gear. I have decided that I have a synergetic, well thought out chain which brings me joy. Now I will focus only on optimizing the gear I have. On that note, I have sent out my EICO HF85 to my local tech (a tube artist) for a complete work-up including an RIAA mod to the Lipschitz curve.

I bought a Nagaoka MP-200...

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3 matched pairs of Tung Sol 6L6GC-STR...

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A Moth MKI tonearm for my Ariston...

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And a 400G portable HD for my digital files...

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[thekid]

I will no longer be acquiring pieces of gear. I have decided that I have a synergetic, well thought out chain which brings me joy.

Good for you!
I am trying to get there myself but old habits die slowly...... I got an Adcom 535L arriving on Monday for my garage set-up...... :D

[dakatabg]

Poppa is doing a big upgrade!

[luvtolisten]

I will no longer be acquiring pieces of gear.

I wish I had a $ everytime I've said that to myself! It's okay Poppa, you can show us the that new piece of equipment when the Mrs. leaves the room.:wink5:

Seriously, I hope it is your Holy Grail, and you are completley happy with the results.
Myself I know I'll still pick up stuff here and there, even when I know it's not quite as good as what I already have. Just the variety I like, or just the hunt.

[luvtolisten]

Good for you!
I am trying to get there myself but old habits die slowly...... I got an Adcom 535L arriving on Monday for my garage set-up...... :D
Hey Kid, what are you running with the 535L?
About a month ago I hooked up my GFP 555 II and GFA 535. I really enjoy it. I don't know if I like it better than my Cambridge 640V2. The Adcom is more dynamic to me a little more punch, little better low end, good with pop and rock. But the Cambridge seems a little more refined, better definition, a little better mids.Better for ballads and acoustics. I like them both, but if I had to choose, I think I'd go with the Cambridge just a little better overall to (just my personal opinion and the volume level,what I listen too). But the Adcom is no slouch.

[poppachubby]

I wish I had a $ everytime I've said that to myself! It's okay Poppa, you can show us the that new piece of equipment when the Mrs. leaves the room.:wink5:

Seriously, I hope it is your Holy Grail, and you are completley happy with the results.
Myself I know I'll still pick up stuff here and there, even when I know it's not quite as good as what I already have. Just the variety I like, or just the hunt.

Hahaha. Welllll....you could be right. I still have a computer system that I tinker with. As far as my main system goes, I am done for some time. Everything sounds great.

You have to ask yourself, is all of your gear running at optimal levels? Have you done everything possible to get everything you can out of it?

The answer for me is simply no. I am more than halfway through what I want to do now. Today will be a special one, no kids, no wife and a pile of new stuff to install and tweak. I will relish every moment the same way a married man does when he gets laid!!

[poppachubby]

Good for you!
I am trying to get there myself but old habits die slowly...... I got an Adcom 535L arriving on Monday for my garage set-up...... :D

Congrats! You're really taking to the Adcom sound huh? Why the garage and not the living room? For loudness purposes?

What is the 535 replacing?

[thekid]

Congrats! You're really taking to the Adcom sound huh? Why the garage and not the living room? For loudness purposes?

What is the 535 replacing?

Adcom gear from that time period was highly regarded (see review below) and can be purchased at relatively bargain prices compared to alot of comparable gear. So great sound at a good price seems to be the sensible route at this point and Adcom more than fits the bill IMO.

http://www.stereophile.com/solidpoweramps/adcom_gfa-535_power_amplifier/

Since picking up the GAS Thalia pre-amp I have been looking for a quality amp to match with it. Most GAS amps are out of my price range. The Kenwood Basic M1D is on the sidelines for the moment and I don't want to break up the Adcom GFA 545 II / GFP 555 combo in my rack so when the opportunity came up to get this 535L (same as the 535 but it has level controls) I went ahead and got it. My initial plan is to pair the Thalia and the 535 up and see how they sound with the Polk 10's and the EV Leyton's.I will also get around to to trying combinations of the Adcom amps with the Thalia and GFP-555 to see which sound best with the Heresy II's.

[dakatabg]

I got one Fisher mode 143-92512700 receiver. There is nothing on the internet about this receiver!


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[Dual-500]

Good for you!
I am trying to get there myself but old habits die slowly...... I got an Adcom 535L arriving on Monday for my garage set-up...... :D
I picked up a Adcom GFA-2535 from a friend about 10 years ago. It's in the HT rack and powers the house system. Runs at 2 ohms driving 8 pairs of bookshelf speakers throughout the house.

I put a couple of small computer fans on it just in case - but, it runs pretty cool.

A very solid amp and it sounds great. It was purchased new ~1995 as I recall.

[thekid]

Well since we are on the topic......the latest Adcom showed up today.
Unfortunately I will be going out of town for the next couple of weeks so I won't have a chance to try it out.

[dakatabg]

Wow few weeks is a long time, it will be buging you during that time how the amp sounds

[thekid]

While I don't exactly buy the conventional wisdom that Klipsch Heresy's are light on bass I had the opportunity to pick up this little Velodyne CHT-8 sub off of CL for not too much. Nice little unit that adds bass without overpowering the main speakers. Small enough to put it in with the main system without having to move things around.

[budgetaudio76]

man alot of you guys are on a roll with these finds. I think i find a good piece no more than 6 times a year.
But i had gotten to where alot of what i see would be a side ways move. Or worse a move down.
But teh trek for that upgrade still goes on.

[luvtolisten]

Wow few weeks is a long time, it will be buging you during that time how the amp sounds

Me too! I have a feeling you're going to like it, it sounds more powerful than it's rating.

[luvtolisten]

man alot of you guys are on a roll with these finds. I think i find a good piece no more than 6 times a year.
But i had gotten to where alot of what i see would be a side ways move. Or worse a move down.
But teh trek for that upgrade still goes on.

Nice stuff you have there ba76, I won't ask you to rate them all, but what are your top 3 favorite speakers? (I do the same as you, rotate different ones in and out from time to time, I like the variety!)

[Mr Peabody]

man alot of you guys are on a roll with these finds. I think i find a good piece no more than 6 times a year.

Yeah, I could see how getting a piece just six times a year might be frustrating :)

But the trek for that still goes on.

Good luck my friend.

[budgetaudio76]

Nice stuff you have there ba76, I won't ask you to rate them all, but what are your top 3 favorite speakers? (I do the same as you, rotate different ones in and out from time to time, I like the variety!)
Toss up between a pair of Koss cm 1020 and a pair of Tannoy mallorcans for main channel speakers. Infinity Rse would come in behind them, but connected to a M&K sub. Should i mention that i enjoyed the mallorcans as well(perhaps even more ) connected to another M&K sub.
After these its a rather large toss up between infinty(lowerend 70s and RS7) and smaller advents or a pair of prodigys. They all sound excellent.

But top two are the Mallorcans and the Koss CM 1020. Both give excellent detail to the music i listen to.
Which is alot of acoustic music. For guitars i just may have to give the nod to the Koss.

But the single point source on the tannoy has spoiled me with the coherency. Id have to connect the koss as mains again to see which i actually prefer. But that wont be for a while.

One of my friends(ex gf) has noted that the Tannoys have a richer sound than the Koss and i thought the koss sounded better. in regards to the fullness of the sounds emanating from the speakers......

[Mr Peabody]

Interesting the Koss sound so good, I would not have expected that. Typically when a name is sold it gets stuck on cheap gear.

[budgetaudio76]

i dont think i added full frontal nudities of the koss. When i have time i will ad pics of the front of the drivers.

The mid and woofer are made by heppner. I think that should portray quality.
The speakers are rather large in contrast to the 10 inch woofer.

When playing music with bass guitar, it is quite interesting to hear the strings being plucked or if theyre using picks. Seeing others pics of the crossovers, i see that they are rather complicated. Excellent build qualitiy over all.




Right now i just plugged in a pair of Celestion Ditton 15 book shelf speakers i bought a while back. Connected to a M&K sub. Not sure what to deduce of them yet. although from what im hearing theyre ok.

[Glen B]

Well I am back today with another minty vintage piece! Kenwood KA-6000 like new. I gave it a good cleaning and cleaned the pots and switches. Sounds great, surprisingly it has bigger capacitors than the other Kenwood amps that are more powerful than this one! Here are few big pictures!!!

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How did I miss this ? She's beautiful. Looks like my old KA-5002.

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[dakatabg]

The sound is beautiful too :)

[Glen B]

Nice amp Glen, I too would like to see what else is in the system. What are your impressions of the sound?
Well, after adjusting the DC offset, re-biasing the amp to factory spec, upgrading the IEC power inlet with a Furutech gold, and stock posts with WBTs, I did some initial listening. I switched it in place of my CA-300, running in balanced mode.

From the time I dropped the first CD, the DR-10 revealed no surprises. The sound is typical Classé, as I expected. As I've seen reported about the DR series amps, the sound was slightly dark. Compared to the CA-300, I think the DR-10 midrange was slightly more holographic, and it had a little more image depth, both attributes I like very much. To my ears, the CA-300 had a slightly more forward treble and upper midrange, and slighly superior bass slam and extension.

The DR-10 holds promise for biamping my speakers, with the DR-10 on top and CA-300 on the bottom. The deciding factor will be further listening, and running the 10 with a power cord similar to the Acoustic Zen with Oyaide connectors that I'm using with the CA-300.

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[poppachubby]

Tough life you have there Glen, making all of those hard decisions. Looks excellent and I know it sounds as good as it looks. Enjoy my man.

[johnsmedes]

`Looking for some help on pricing to sell some of my 84 year old Dad's equipment.

All were purchased new in late 60's except I believe the Sony.

McIntosh MR67 Stereophonic FM Tuner
McIntosh MA5100 Preamp-Amplifier
Garrard 95 Syncro-Lab Turntable
Sony TC-155 4.5" reel to reel

Also have a custom made cherry console with matching speakers. Could be JBL or Electrovoice. Cabinet - 61"x20-1/2"x29-1/4" Speakers - 19-1/2"x19-3/8"x29-1/4"

any feedback is appreciated.

John

[Feanor]

`Looking for some help on pricing to sell some of my 84 year old Dad's equipment.

All were purchased new in late 60's except I believe the Sony.

McIntosh MR67 Stereophonic FM Tuner
McIntosh MA5100 Preamp-Amplifier
Garrard 95 Syncro-Lab Turntable
Sony TC-155 4.5" reel to reel

Also have a custom made cherry console with matching speakers. Could be JBL or Electrovoice. Cabinet - 61"x20-1/2"x29-1/4" Speakers - 19-1/2"x19-3/8"x29-1/4"

any feedback is appreciated.

John
Hello, John, and welcome to AR Forums.

You dad got some very nice equipment in the day. Others might have a more precise idea of the value of these items, but his (and all) McIntosh has significant residual value.

"Mac" tuners are still quite sought after by aficianados and collectors, especially certain late-model analog, but also tube models like the MR67. Condition is a big factor; if fully operational and in very good cosmetic condition prices will be much higher. If in very good or better condition the MR67 might go for, say, $400+

Solid state Mac integrates like the MA5100 are less sought after but will still sell for several hundred dollars depending on the condition. So the MA5100 in very good condition might also go for $400+.

N.B. that you won't get these prices your local hifi retailer Audiogon, (see HERE), is a famous internet seller. eBay can also work.

[Glen B]

What's going on with this site of late ? I posted the following infomation earlier and the post did not appear. Also had problems yesterday.

Following are bluebook prices. I did not find anything on the Sony reel-to-reel, but information I came across suggests it is a low level model that is now not worth much today.

Mac MR67: $860
Mac MA-5100: $430
Syncro-Lab 95: $30.00

[Glen B]

What's going on with this site of late ? I posted the following infomation earlier and the post did not appear. Also had various other problems yesterday and again today.

Following are bluebook prices. I did not find anything on the Sony reel-to-reel, but information I came across suggests it is a low level model that is now not worth much today.

Mac MR67: $860
Mac MA-5100: $430
Syncro-Lab 95: $30.00

[dakatabg]

Well I haven't posted anything new here so today I came up with 2 new thing!

Harman Kardon 330A and Yamaha R-90

Since I have the higher model 330C I will add the 330A to the stack, the Yamaha sounds all right but something bothers me in the sound, I think it will have to be recapped. Here are the pics!!!

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[Poultrygeist]

Yesterday I picked up a pair of EPI-70's ( TE version ) for $10 at a local thrift store. The surrounds were shot but I've already purchased some new foams off ebay. I really enjoy bringing old speakers back to life. When I make that first critical incision into the old dust cap it's like performing heart valve surgery.

Never pay the asking price on thrift store speakers. Ater I show the clerk the rotten surrounds and can usually get a pair for $5 to $10. Most folks incorrectly assume the drivers are no good and must be replaced when the foam surrounds turn to powder.

I recall coveting a pair of EPI-100's back when I was a kid and couldn't afford them. I became a big Cat Stevens fan when I heard his "Catch Bull At Four" played on a pair of EPI-100's.

I've read that some folks like the EPI-70 better than the EPI-100. EPI is short for Epicure, a great old speaker company from the golden age of sound. Can't wait to get those new surrounds in the mail.

[thekid]

Yesterday I picked up a pair of EPI-70's ( TE version ) for $10 at a local thrift store. The surrounds were shot but I've already purchased some new foams off ebay. I really enjoy bringing old speakers back to life. When I make that first critical incision into the old dust cap it's like performing heart valve surgery.

Never pay the asking price on thrift store speakers. Ater I show the clerk the rotten surrounds and can usually get a pair for $5 to $10. Most folks incorrectly assume the drivers are no good and must be replaced when the foam surrounds turn to powder.

I recall coveting a pair of EPI-100's back when I was a kid and couldn't afford them. I became a big Cat Stevens fan when I heard his "Catch Bull At Four" played on a pair of EPI-100's.

I've read that some folks like the EPI-70 better than the EPI-100. EPI is short for Epicure, a great old speaker company from the golden age of sound. Can't wait to get those new surrounds in the mail.

Congrats and good luck on the refoam. i have heard a couple of the TE series and they are pretty good but I would not trade my EPI 100's for them.

[Mr Peabody]

That's great you are able to do the re-coning.

[thekid]

Not as nice as either of my Naks but a 3-Head deck for $7 was too good to walk away from.....

[dakatabg]

I scored a Marantz model Twenty Six! Not much of power but the sound is good!


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[luvtolisten]

Love those silver face recievers. Looks like it's in mint condition. Nice!

I don't know what the difference in rating for power was between the 70's and now, but I do know 14 watts from that period was more powerful. Perhaps they had more current back then rather than voltage? (I X V =watts)

[dakatabg]

I know my friend "Thekid" is a big fan of the Sony ES series so I got a C67ES cd player in the shop so I decided to take a pic and post it here for him ;)

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[Luvin Da Blues]

..... (I X V =watts)


You do know that formula is only good for purely resistive circuits, right? Adding capacitance or inductance changes things a lot. :)

[Dual-500]

You do know that formula is only good for purely resistive circuits, right? Adding capacitance or inductance changes things a lot. :)
Yes indeed. And since we're moving this towards correctness let me add:

The formula is P = I * E

P = Power as measured in Watts
I = Current as measured in Amperes
E = Electrical Potential as measured in Volts (in this case volts RMS)

The original poster made his point - power ratings were more conservative back in the day and the amps/receivers in general had more headroon or dynamic power.

:thumbsup:

[luvtolisten]

Yes indeed. And since we're moving this towards correctness let me add:

The formula is P = I * E

P = Power as measured in Watts
I = Current as measured in Amperes
E = Electrical Potential as measured in Volts (in this case volts RMS)

The original posted made his point - power ratings were more conservative back in the day and the amps/receivers in general had more headroon or dynamic power.

:thumbsup:

Thank you! I had Sony receiver from the late 70's (35 watts/channel). It finally died in the 90's. I was happy with Sony and bought a new receiver in the 90's at 55 watts/channel. The old one had more punch and a much fuller sound whereas the new one sounded tinty and lacked the bass the old one had. I was wondering if they reached that 55 watt/channel spec by increasing the voltage and decreasing the current? Excuse my ignorance, but I take it that current related to headroom?

[luvtolisten]

I know my friend "Thekid" is a big fan of the Sony ES series so I got a C67ES cd player in the shop so I decided to take a pic and post it here for him ;)


I know I speak in the minority, but I like the fact it's a changer too.

[Dual-500]

Thank you! I had Sony receiver from the late 70's (35 watts/channel). It finally died in the 90's. I was happy with Sony and bought a new receiver in the 90's at 55 watts/channel. The old one had more punch and a much fuller sound whereas the new one sounded tinty and lacked the bass the old one had. I was wondering if they reached that 55 watt/channel spec by increasing the voltage and decreasing the current? Excuse my ignorance, but I take it that current related to headroom?
Basically. It's a bit more complicated than that. The old school stuff, in general, had the capacity to deliver more current. There are many differences inherent in the basic design in terms of then and now. The main being in the power supply. Old school stuff stored more energy in the power supply. Whereas newer designs use more state of the art power supply technology to reduce size and increase overall design efficiency. That's the trade off - size, cost and efficiency -vs- ballz out capacity.

I don't want to skew this thread into discussion that could get lengthy and really belongs somewhere else.

:hand:

[thekid]

I know my friend "Thekid" is a big fan of the Sony ES series so I got a C67ES cd player in the shop so I decided to take a pic and post it here for him ;)

http://i53.tinypic.com/2hchnax.jpg

Daks

Thanks for thinking of me...

I have a C77ES as the CDP in my ES set-up, I think you will be very happy with the C66.
All of my Sony DVD remotes have worked with the C77 so you may consider stopping by a thrift and picking up a cheap remote so that you can take full advantage of the changer.

[luvtolisten]

Basically. It's a bit more complicated than that. The old school stuff, in general, had the capacity to deliver more current. There are many differences inherent in the basic design in terms of then and now. The main being in the power supply. Old school stuff stored more energy in the power supply. Whereas newer designs use more state of the art power supply technology to reduce size and increase overall design efficiency. That's the trade off - size, cost and efficiency -vs- ballz out capacity.

I don't want to skew this thread into discussion that could get lengthy and really belongs somewhere else.

:hand:

Understood, thanks for the explanation.

[dakatabg]

Here are few new vintage speakers! Kennys LS-890 and Realistic Optimus 7B

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lsjf2x.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/300qil5.jpg

[luvtolisten]

Nice! I have the 7B's myself, I had to replace the tweeter on mine, (one was frozen the other leaking fluid) and adjust the crossover to suit them, but not a bad speaker.

[dakatabg]

They are good speakers, I like their highs! Very musical. The Kennys are not bad too maybe even better!

[luvtolisten]

They are good speakers, I like their highs! Very musical. The Kennys are not bad too maybe even better!

I agree. They're from the time period when Radio Shack had them made with good quality Japanese drivers, before the China rush. I'm not familiar with the Kenwoods, but they look like they could put out some serious bass.

[dakatabg]

The Kennwood speakers will be good for party speakers! They sound good but the sound is kind of hard, nothing warm or neutral! I tried it with a Marantz and Sansui and still the same! There is a lot of bass and high, the mids are very bad, you barely hear them!

[budgetaudio76]

dak, try stuffing one or both ports in each speaker...May help in the overt bass. Also put some stuffing in them. Just may help!

[dakatabg]

I will try them in the morning to see what change it will make! Thanks for the info!

[thekid]

I know the purists out there will shun this piece but I was getting tired of finding CD's laying out as my wife pulled discs out of my CD holders or piled them up on my TT. I spotted this one on CL and got a good deal on it from the original owner. Photo does not do it justice and it has been operating flawlessly for the past several hours. Not a high end player but matched with my DAC it actually produces very good sound. It has a cool feature that allows you to hook a keyboard directly to the player and type in the titles. I will have to sit down this weekend and get all the data entered and set up a few listening programs. I also made a deal with my wife that I will leave her favorite discs in a CD book and everything else goes into the changer. Hopefully this will eliminate the problem with CD's piling up......:thumbsup:

[dakatabg]

That is a good find, I have similar one for 200 discs and I am not that impressed by it. Well as long as you like it, that's what matter.

[thekid]

That is a good find, I have similar one for 200 discs and I am not that impressed by it. Well as long as you like it, that's what matter.

As a stand alone player I would agree I think they sacrifice sound quality for storage space. But by connecting it using the optical connection to the MSB DAC the SQ is taken up several notches.

[Mr Peabody]

Well, Kid, some would wonder why not embrace the music server. Rip those CD's to a hard drive, put them back in the case and not worry about them any more. If you kept them lossless the sound should be theoretically the same. At least your option is superior to mp3

[thekid]

Well, Kid, some would wonder why not embrace the music server. Rip those CD's to a hard drive, put them back in the case and not worry about them any more. If you kept them lossless the sound should be theoretically the same. At least your option is superior to mp3

Mr. P

In the long term you are right. As usual I have opted for the least expensive short term solution.

[Dual-500]

Mr. P

In the long term you are right. As usual I have opted for the least expensive short term solution.
I always rip and burn backup copies for use - especially in the car system and keep the originals as master copies.

[budgetaudio76]

new find Optimus 9



how do i link, to where just the photo shows?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5208670152_fff7a44ef2_m.jpg
lets see if that works...figured it out thanks dak. picture sure is small though.

[dakatabg]

new find Optimus 9

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5208670152_fff7a44ef2_m.jpg

how do i link, to where just the photo shows?

When you upload the picture, you see few links and you choose the forum link so when you post, it appears like a picture!!

[poppachubby]

As a stand alone player I would agree I think they sacrifice sound quality for storage space. But by connecting it using the optical connection to the MSB DAC the SQ is taken up several notches.

That's exactly what I do with my Yamaha kid. It's a 5 disc with toslink output into my dac.

[dakatabg]

I ended up with a pair of KLH 900B. They are bookshelf speakers but the cabinets are pretty deep and heavy! I was thinking of replacing the Minimus-7 but when I hooked them up I was like no no. Those KLH have good high and ok lows but the mids you can't hear them, I have to get the volume very very high so they start to feel! My ears prefer to keep the Minimus-7 for now.


http://i51.tinypic.com/j8eliv.jpg

[budgetaudio76]

did you check the mids? Sounds like they are not working...

[dakatabg]

did you check the mids? Sounds like they are not working...

Yes they both work but I can barely hear them! I will just stick with the Minimus and see those KLH! When I put the Minimus back the sound is more musical and better!

[thekid]

Daks

I think you just found out why people say to stay away from KLH except for their vintage stuff. Another one of those companies that is shell of its former self.

[budgetaudio76]

i wonder if they are wired out of phase. you know pos. wire connected to neg. lead on the driver?

[dakatabg]

I will check them out tonight but I doubt because they both sound the same!

That was the time that KLH was making kind of junky stuff so I am not surprised!

[luvtolisten]

new find Optimus 9.

Hey BA 76, how do you like them, how do yjey sound?
I have the Optimus 5's, a good speaker, but like the Nova 7's better.

[luvtolisten]

Yes they both work but I can barely hear them! I will just stick with the Minimus and see those KLH! When I put the Minimus back the sound is more musical and better!

Thanks for the input Dak. I have heard to stay away from anything higher than the model 34, although the 911B had some favorable reviews considering the price.Too bad about the 900, but I do appreciate your honesty. Can't win them all.

[dakatabg]

Thanks for the input Dak. I have heard to stay away from anything higher than the model 34, although the 911B had some favorable reviews considering the price.Too bad about the 900, but I do appreciate your honesty. Can't win them all.

I have had only from the junk KLH speakers but I see the old ones have good reviews, maybe one day I will get my hands on a pair of them!

[poppachubby]

Thanks for the input Dak. I have heard to stay away from anything higher than the model 34, although the 911B had some favorable reviews considering the price.Too bad about the 900, but I do appreciate your honesty. Can't win them all.


I swapped my Paradigm Model 7s for a pair of KLH Model 38 with my father in law, just for kicks. They sound quite nice, very laid back much like a Dynaco. I wouldn't rec them for any kind of main/reference listening but for secondary/HT/computer they are ideal.

[budgetaudio76]

Luvtolisten, They actually sound good. Ive read else where that they are a direct precurser to the mach one. Even similar looks sans the horn mid and tweet.

For Rock music they are very good. Some blues as well. Not so much for smooth jazz...Turn up the volume a bit and they seem to present an accurate rendition. Right down to the bass. Over all seems to posses an airy sound with instruments.(not very good at describing audio terms)

Currently they are moved on top of the tannoy and klipsch...Not sure how long theyll stay there. Maybe i will move them back on the floor...but time will tell.

[dakatabg]

Well today I got a set of vintage Yamaha amp and tuner! Both in great condition. I got a good price on them too. I haven't had silver Yamaha before so that is my first set.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2qiqnx1.jpg

[JohnMichael]

Well today I got a set of vintage Yamaha amp and tuner! Both in great condition. I got a good price on them too. I haven't had silver Yamaha before so that is my first set.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2qiqnx1.jpg



Beautiful and the phono selector caught my eye.

[dakatabg]

Yeah John, the phono stage has a lot of options, I still haven't tried it because the turntable is connected to my other system. I saw it when the guy posted it and I was the first one to email him, he said he had over 20 people in few hours so I was the lucky one to grab it. Yamaha stuff gets harder and harder to find!

[thekid]

Daks
Congratulations on another nice score!

[dakatabg]

Daks
Congratulations on another nice score!


Well thekid for 5x20 in great cosmetic and working condition, I couldn't pass it! I was lucky I was the first one to email him! Many were waiting on the line but I grabbed it!

[luvtolisten]

I swapped my Paradigm Model 7s for a pair of KLH Model 38 with my father in law, just for kicks. They sound quite nice, very laid back much like a Dynaco. I wouldn't rec them for any kind of main/reference listening but for secondary/HT/computer they are ideal.
Chubbs, your reply inspired me to research further the Model 38 ( I believe you, just enjoy reading & researching audio) and people that have the 38's do enjoy them and they do rank well in the KLH series, although there isn't as much info on them compared to the more well known model's. Thanks for the input, always good learn something new. The 38 is kind of a sleeper.Good, but not as well known. I never heard the 38's, but I have heard the Paradigm 7's. I liked them, and almost bought a pair, but at the time could only afford the little brother, the Titians. I 'm sure your father in law is happy too with the trade..

[luvtolisten]

Luvtolisten, They actually sound good. Ive read else where that they are a direct precurser to the mach one. Even similar looks sans the horn mid and tweet.

For Rock music they are very good. Some blues as well. Not so much for smooth jazz...Turn up the volume a bit and they seem to present an accurate rendition. Right down to the bass. Over all seems to posses an airy sound with instruments.(not very good at describing audio terms)

Currently they are moved on top of the tannoy and klipsch...Not sure how long theyll stay there. Maybe i will move them back on the floor...but time will tell.

Sounds like a great score, congratulations! By the way I checked out your link, you have a lot of cool stuff there!:thumbsup:

[luvtolisten]

Well today I got a set of vintage Yamaha amp and tuner! Both in great condition. I got a good price on them too. I haven't had silver Yamaha before so that is my first set.
Very NICE Dak! I always like the distinct look of Yamaha myself. Getting harder to find those as time goes on, definitely a good score!

[dakatabg]

Score after score and I start to get full with stereos home! There will be a reduction soon but my heart hurts when I think of selling something good I like!

[luvtolisten]

I hear ya, I have about 35 pairs of speakers. Every time I think of getting rid of a pair, I give them their 'final" play. Then rediscover something I like about them and change my mind.

[budgetaudio76]

i find out too late when im selling. I usually dont hook them up till buyer is coming. And i have to shake my head. Sounds unbelievable. But the guy is coming over already...bummer.

[thekid]

Well I did not see the Off-topic forum so thought this might be the next best place since it is a new find......

Second edition of "The Two Towers" by J.R.R. Tolkien for $4...... :D
Pretty good condition with the orignal spine and binding intact.

[Feanor]

Well I did not see the Off-topic forum so thought this might be the next best place since it is a new find......

Second edition of "The Two Towers" by J.R.R. Tolkien for $4...... :D
Pretty good condition with the orignal spine and binding intact.
Appropriate that I should be the first to congradulate you ...

Good O! The authorized, Houghton Mifflin edition. Enjoy.

[Geoffcin]

Besides vintage audio gear, I also collect antiquarian books. Nice find!

[Jo6Pak]

i have a 1060 on the way from evilbay. been reading up on replacing the old electrolytic caps and such. anyone have part numbers for replacement ripple and output caps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/STeve54/Marantz1060.jpg

[poppachubby]

Hey guys. I picked up a Yamaha CDC-635 for 5 bucks yesterday, complete with remote. I love my CDC 575, so I thought why not, plus this unit has variable output which will come in handy down the line.

[luvtolisten]

i have a 1060 on the way from evilbay. been reading up on replacing the old electrolytic caps and such. anyone have part numbers for replacement ripple and output caps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/STeve54/Marantz1060.jpg
Hi Jo, and welcome to AR. I don't think you'll be able to find direct replacement caps, due to age,your best bet is to pull off the cover and make your own list of what type of caps and value you'll need. As far as electrolytic caps go, I've read other forums where people have had good luck using Panasonic caps from Digi-Key without breaking the bank. You may also search this forum for a thread by TWC66, who replaced caps on his Adcom amp with good results.In some instances (I don't recall which) he replaced some electrolytics with non polar audio caps from Parts Express with good results.

[luvtolisten]

Hey guys. I picked up a Yamaha CDC-635 for 5 bucks yesterday, complete with remote. I love my CDC 575, so I thought why not, plus this unit has variable output which will come in handy down the line.
Congratulations chubbs! Don't know how it sounds, but to me it's handy to have a changer for convenience (as I do) even though the audio purists frown down upon them.For $5, how can you go wrong?

[dakatabg]

Wow I always wanted to have a separate Marantz amp but they are hard to find on craigslist.

Poppa, the cd player you got is a good one and the price is more than a steal! I have CDC-645 and CDC-685! The 685 is much better the way it functions. On those Yamaha players with the time the display light starts to diminish!

[recoveryone]

I was searching for some cat 5 cable in my shop this week and found a brand new pair of Nova 40 headphones still in the box,

[poppachubby]

I bought a brand new Squeezebox Touch a few weeks back. It was on backorder but I am going in to pick it up!!

[dakatabg]

Well I got a Marantz surround receiver in the original box and with the remote for pretty much nothing $$. It is not top of the line but the sound is good, I kind of like it.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1eqpax.jpg

[Feanor]

Well I got a Marantz surround receiver in the original box and with the remote for pretty much nothing $$. It is not top of the line but the sound is good, I kind of like it.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1eqpax.jpg
Very nice, Dakata.

A relatively recent model, I'd guess, based on the "Dolby Digital" emblem and the styling. Does it have S-Video inputs and do video switching?

[dakatabg]

No it doesn't have all those options! It is pretty simple 5.1 surround receiver! It sounds good, I like the sound!

http://i52.tinypic.com/e0if0x.jpg

[luvtolisten]

Well I got a Marantz surround receiver in the original box and with the remote for pretty much nothing $$. It is not top of the line but the sound is good, I kind of like it.


Nice pick up Dak! A friend of mine has the SR 4001, which he bought about 3 years ago as they were being replaced with the SR 4002. He's very happy with his. It's a nice receiver, I've been impressed with the more recent Marantz products the last 5 years, nice to see them comeback and not take cheapo route other receievers have.

[luvtolisten]

I bought a brand new Squeezebox Touch a few weeks back. It was on backorder but I am going in to pick it up!!
No way! Chubbs is an analog guy!
Who are you and what have you done with Chubbs?:wink5:

[poppachubby]

No way! Chubbs is an analog guy!
Who are you and what have you done with Chubbs?:wink5:

hahah. Funny. Yes I use analog for reference but I use digital also. I also do alot of ripping from vinyl to file. I don't buy CDs anymore unless there is no choice. I can now focus my money into vinyl solely. My rips are top quality FLAC files although "only" 16/44.1. I also use Audacity's metadata tag editor so they are fully tagged with any extra info I can add such as Record Label, players/instruments, etc. I also tag an image for the cover art which is great for Media Monkey which displays such things.

The Touch operates by plugging in a USB drive which is great for me. If I figure to be upstairs all day I can take it into my HT system and listen up there. So the vinyl comes with me but I don't have to flip an LP.

[luvtolisten]

hahah. Funny. Yes I use analog for reference but I use digital also. I also do alot of ripping from vinyl to file. I don't buy CDs anymore unless there is no choice. I can now focus my money into vinyl solely. My rips are top quality FLAC files although "only" 16/44.1. I also use Audacity's metadata tag editor so they are fully tagged with any extra info I can add such as Record Label, players/instruments, etc. I also tag an image for the cover art which is great for Media Monkey which displays such things.

The Touch operates by plugging in a USB drive which is great for me. If I figure to be upstairs all day I can take it into my HT system and listen up there. So the vinyl comes with me but I don't have to flip an LP.
:thumbsup: Nice! I am all for convenience and creature features.

[dakatabg]

Wow poppa, that is a good gadget. How is the sound quality?

[thekid]

i have a 1060 on the way from evilbay. been reading up on replacing the old electrolytic caps and such. anyone have part numbers for replacement ripple and output caps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/STeve54/Marantz1060.jpg

Jo6

Welcome to AR.
A great piece from Marantz' "Golden Age".
What other gear are you going to run with it?

[thekid]

Daks and Pops

Congratulations on your recent additions as well!

Pops

Is that Yamaha a 5-disc player?
I got a CDC-645 5-disc player as a throw in when I picked another Sony ES reciever a couple of weeks ago. Have not hooked it up and was not sure what to do with it since I don't think it is better than my Sony ES player or Denon but I guess I need to give it a listen first.

[poppachubby]

Ya it's a 5 disc. The only 5 discs i have been able to stomach have been Yammy's.

[thekid]

Ya it's a 5 disc. The only 5 discs i have been able to stomach have been Yammy's.

Thanks I will have to give it a listen.

As far as 5-disc players I can recommend the Sony ES series. You probably won't find them for $5 but the C77ES is a great player and you can use almost any Sony DVD remote with it if you come across one w/o the original remote.

[recoveryone]

hahah. Funny. Yes I use analog for reference but I use digital also. I also do alot of ripping from vinyl to file. I don't buy CDs anymore unless there is no choice. I can now focus my money into vinyl solely. My rips are top quality FLAC files although "only" 16/44.1. I also use Audacity's metadata tag editor so they are fully tagged with any extra info I can add such as Record Label, players/instruments, etc. I also tag an image for the cover art which is great for Media Monkey which displays such things.

The Touch operates by plugging in a USB drive which is great for me. If I figure to be upstairs all day I can take it into my HT system and listen up there. So the vinyl comes with me but I don't have to flip an LP.

The one thing I like the most about my squeezebox is that I can just pick an artist and every song they preformed,or wrote will be played. makes for a interesting listening experience.

[E-Stat]

The Touch operates by plugging in a USB drive which is great for me.
It also works using network based external servers. Mine is connected via Wi-Fi to the primary server. I use an aftermarket linear power supply which tames the somewhat bright top end.

rw

[poppachubby]

It also works using network based external servers. Mine is connected via Wi-Fi to the primary server.rw


So is mine Ralph. Hooking the USB drive directly turns out to be a major PITA. I bought a TOTL router to create my network. It delivers at 300mbps. I am in love with my Squeezebox, it's actually a FUN device. I am still looking through the endless internet stations. I am a podcast fan and have been taking advantage of that also.

My files have always been orgainzed, but I now relaise how important tagging and image files will be. I like for it to "look" the role also.

I want a second power supply so that I may leave one in my rig and another in my HT system. This way I can simply unplug it and move when i foresee spending the day in either space. I am outputting digitally to my dac, but in my HT I am using the SB's dac. Very detailed but way too harsh. Lucky for me that system is coloured, so it sounds great.

[E-Stat]

I am in love with my Squeezebox, it's actually a FUN device. I am still looking through the endless internet stations.
This little box has changed my thinking about digital playback. Seriously. The server side software allows you to easily put together a play list and control your device remotely.


I like for it to "look" the role also.
Just remember the meters and RTA are merely screensavers. Since mine lives in a closet, appearance isn't as important. Which also posed a challenge for remote access. Its own remote control, consequently is useless . What is not, however, is a cool iPhone app called iPeng which allows full access. Highly recommended.



I am outputting digitally to my dac, but in my HT I am using the SB's dac. Very detailed but way too harsh.
Part of the problem is the noisy switching power supply.

rw

[poppachubby]

Just remember the meters and RTA are merely screensavers. Since mine lives in a closet, appearance isn't as important. rw

I rip alot of my files from vinyl. This requires tagging and inserting cover art, etc. The alternative is a bunch of "unknown"s and question marks where info and images should be. I am a bit obsessive about this part.

[dakatabg]

Well well, I ended up with the BSR Quanta turntable in very good cosmetic and working condition!

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ykkfp5.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/fqj39.jpg

[Glen B]

I owned a higher level BRS Quanta TT back in the late 1970s, and it was not all that. The wow and flutter for one thing was audible. Just the arm alone on that TT you acquired is going to be hard on your vinyl collection. IMHO, you could have done better with some other brand/model. Look at the fake strobe markings on the platter. If there's one thing positive, at least its in fine condition. I replaced my Quanta with a Technics SL-3200. The overall quality and performance was like night and day.

SL-3200:

[dakatabg]

I am not planning to keep it, I just got it and decided to post some pics of it. It is on the shelf for sale.

[luvtolisten]

A pair of B&O Beovox S45-2's. I didn't find them, they found me. My nephew had them down in his basement, in the original boxes for the past 10/12 years. He asked if if I wanted them, and having a speaker addiction I said "I sure would!". After getting them home I pulled off the grills. I was disappointed to see the front of the speakers were plastic. But after removing the woofer, to look inside, I found new hope. Each driver has a 2nd order crossover, and the tweeter and midrange has it's own compartment. I've listen to these speakers an hour at a time for a total of 4 hours or so. I've found they are definitely not a rock speaker, that is, they don't like to be played loud. But at lower levels, those where you can have a conversation with the person next to you and not have to strain, they perform quite well. Maybe not a great speaker, but a good one.The bass isn't the lowest, but it is there and it is well controlled tight and honest. The highs are a bit bright, you may find yourself reaching for the treble control, especially the louder you play them. I do like the mid's, especially with acoustics. These speakers do provide a lot of detail, a fun speaker to listen too, it does color things somewhat, but to me in a pleasant way. I don't think they are worth the $325 MSRP back in the early 80's but for $50 or so, I'd say it's worth it. I'm not all that familiar with B&O, always thought they were more eye candy than ear candy. But I think a lot of that is that is because the times I've audition their speakers before, they were played loudly, either by the salesman or me. They really aren't designed for loud levels. But at lower levels, they are a nice speaker. I'm enjoying these, a nice variation.:2:

[dakatabg]

Good score luvtolisten, I haven't had any experience with B&O yet but I have read only good things about this company! These are nice speakers for sure, I saw a pair of those on the local craigslist for $80 but they were gone by the time I saw them!

Enjoy them!

[dakatabg]

I also got a pair of these big Fisher monsters!

http://i56.tinypic.com/28mn21u.jpg

[dakatabg]

A little update, the BSR record player sold for $60! WOW I just posted it last night and this morning a lady bought it for her husband!

[luvtolisten]

I also got a pair of these big Fisher monsters!

How do they sound?

[luvtolisten]

A little update, the BSR record player sold for $60! WOW I just posted it last night and this morning a lady bought it for her husband!
Good for you! Now you can buy more toys!

[dakatabg]

How do they sound?


They are all right, I actually sold them too for $100. They are more for party speakers, they could handle a lot especially in the low levels.

[budgetaudio76]

wow, those fisher actually sold for that much? I gotta find me some of them. Ive had trouble selling Better speakers for even less than that!

[dakatabg]

Well I put a lot of big pictures and very good description. There are people that when they see those big white woofers and they go for them! I posted them last night and at 1pm they were gone!

[thekid]

Congrats Dak at freeing up some room and putting a few dollars in your pocket at the same time.

[dakatabg]

Another addition and this time very impressed. I have never heard an amp with such a good mids and highs, especially at the mids. I have never heard my speakers sound like that. I have to keep the mids and highs knobs on 9 o'clock so it sounds normal. The front door that opens and closes is a very cool thing.

http://i55.tinypic.com/jq6ash.jpg

[luvtolisten]

I looked it up, says it was made in the 80's, but yours looks newer than that. Never had a Yamaha, but people who have owned seemed to like them. Congratulations!

[JohnMichael]

A pair of B&O Beovox S45-2's. I didn't find them, they found me. My nephew had them down in his basement, in the original boxes for the past 10/12 years. He asked if if I wanted them, and having a speaker addiction I said "I sure would!". After getting them home I pulled off the grills. I was disappointed to see the front of the speakers were plastic. But after removing the woofer, to look inside, I found new hope. Each driver has a 2nd order crossover, and the tweeter and midrange has it's own compartment. I've listen to these speakers an hour at a time for a total of 4 hours or so. I've found they are definitely not a rock speaker, that is, they don't like to be played loud. But at lower levels, those where you can have a conversation with the person next to you and not have to strain, they perform quite well. Maybe not a great speaker, but a good one.The bass isn't the lowest, but it is there and it is well controlled tight and honest. The highs are a bit bright, you may find yourself reaching for the treble control, especially the louder you play them. I do like the mid's, especially with acoustics. These speakers do provide a lot of detail, a fun speaker to listen too, it does color things somewhat, but to me in a pleasant way. I don't think they are worth the $325 MSRP back in the early 80's but for $50 or so, I'd say it's worth it. I'm not all that familiar with B&O, always thought they were more eye candy than ear candy. But I think a lot of that is that is because the times I've audition their speakers before, they were played loudly, either by the salesman or me. They really aren't designed for loud levels. But at lower levels, they are a nice speaker. I'm enjoying these, a nice variation.:2:



I really liked those back in the day. As I remember they imaged very well. During that time in my life they were too expensive and there were many quality speakers available for $200 a pair. I was still enjoying my Smaller Advents.

http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=666

[recoveryone]

This way I can simply unplug it and move when i foresee spending the day in either space. I am outputting digitally to my dac, but in my HT I am using the SB's dac. Very detailed but way too harsh. Lucky for me that system is coloured, so it sounds great.

Glad you are enjoying it, Put instead of swapping it out between systems, why not do some online searching for another one, sure you can find an use one for about $100 to half off. I have 3 SB3, one in each of the rooms that I use, never paid full price.

[luvtolisten]

I really liked those back in the day. As I remember they imaged very well. During that time in my life they were too expensive and there were many quality speakers available for $200 a pair. I was still enjoying my Smaller Advents.

Yes they do image well, I'm still enjoying them, I have to say I'm impressed with the amount of detail they provide. .I couldn't afford them back then (early 80's) either. Besides you're right there were a lot of speakers around that $200 mark, that were very good.
I had a chance to buy a pair of Advents with the fried egg tweeter this summer for $30 at a Salvation Army store, but I passed at the time because there was a long check out line and I was in kind of a hurry. I kick myself now.

[thekid]

I really liked those back in the day. As I remember they imaged very well. During that time in my life they were too expensive and there were many quality speakers available for $200 a pair. I was still enjoying my Smaller Advents.

http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=666

I think someone owes some royalties to Mr. Kloss as those look very much like original Large Advents. If they sound similar even better.

[poppachubby]

I had a great day with my oldest boy yesterday. We wandered into a local thrift to kill some time, and stumbled onto a portable record player, in excellent condition. It's quite literally a no-namer, but completely clean and fully functional. Self contained with it's own speaker, no inputs or outputs.

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I have begun to build a "system" for him. Of course, it consists of an old SS receiver and a pair of Technics bookshelf speakers. For a four year old, he takes exellent care of it as he desperately wants me to add more sources to it. I have promised him a CDP and frankly, he has earned it. This kid takes better care of his system than I do, and you should see him handle a CD...it's quite impressive.

Of course, a record player never figured into the equation. I can't be bothered to have to replace a cheesy stylus every other week. But then we ran into this portable, and that changed everything. It's stylus is the type that will not break, yet won't damage an LP. they use a similar table at my local record shop for previewing.

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My old man gave me his old Califone when I was about 8 or 9. I will never forget how happy it made me, and the freedom it represented as I could then play my own LPs on my own terms. Oh ya, Culture Club and Micheal Jackson never sounded so sweet.

Anyhow, it's a clever design. It has a 45 adaptor built into the platter, you just pop it up when you want to use it. In order to accomodate an LP, the arm swings up and out of the way. It does 33 and 45.


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We also scored some LPs including a minty copy of Split Enz' True Colours. The rest of the day was spent listening to LPs, and keeping my youngest away from it. All in all a great day spent bonding with my kid, within the context of my favorite hobby!! Life is good!! Oh and the portable table? 5 bucks!!

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[Dual-500]

I remember having a small mono record player at that age range (1958/62) and playing 45's in my bedroom. Fine memories! Johnny Horton North to Alaska, the original Hot Rod Lincoln was one of my favorites. The Monster Mash, Bobby Vee's Rubber Ball.

Thanks for sharing you are passing the torch along to your youngster. Sets a nice tone for the day today......

[thekid]

Great story Pops!

It looks like you are paving some roads you can both travel for years to come.
You might want to get that CDP quick before you walk in one day and see him "cuing up" a CD on his new turntable........ :biggrin5:

As I have mentioned several times in other posts the best part of my thrift store hunting for audio gear is that I do it most often with my son. At a time when most teenagers don't want to spend 5 minutes in a room with their parents I have spent most Saturday's with my son riding around listening to and talking about music while finding some pretty good deals on gear.

[SlumpBuster]

You might want to double check that Split Enz. It might be laser etched. Mine is.

[luvtolisten]

Good story. Nothing as you say as having your own. I had 3 brothers and a sister,so the competition was fierce for the main stereo (A blond Magnavox tube console in the 60's). Having my "own" enabled me to enjoy my own music, which led to enjoy audio. The gift you gave is more than a record player.You're a good Pop.

[poppachubby]

Thanks for the love guys! Here's my newest find. WBT 2016 cabling finished with WBT 0101 locking RCA plugs. WBT are a German company known for high end ICs. The fit and finish of the plugs is unlike anything I have ever owned. Basically, the plug twists to loosen and once on the input, twists to snug. It literally will not come off once snugged up. Awesome!!

My local shop "gifted" these to me for the mere price tag of $50. They are easily worth $150 - 200, but I won't be selling them. They are beyond any descriptives. The high end has improved dramatically which for my rig, is a great thing.

[Geoffcin]

Thanks for the love guys! Here's my newest find. WBT 2016 cabling finished with WBT 0101 locking RCA plugs. WBT are a German company known for high end ICs. The fit and finish of the plugs is unlike anything I have ever owned. Basically, the plug twists to loosen and once on the input, twists to snug. It literally will not come off once snugged up. Awesome!!

My local shop "gifted" these to me for the mere price tag of $50. They are easily worth $150 - 200, but I won't be selling them. They are beyond any descriptives. The high end has improved dramatically which for my rig, is a great thing.

Sweet! Those cables use the same connectors that are on my HGA cables. Just be careful how much you tighten them. I had a mother of a time getting them off the last time I moved stuff around. From the color they look Rhodium plated. That's the bomb!

[poppachubby]

Sweet! Those cables use the same connectors that are on my HGA cables. Just be careful how much you tighten them. I had a mother of a time getting them off the last time I moved stuff around. From the color they look Rhodium plated. That's the bomb!

Rhodium huh? Sounds like audiophile kool-aid lol. Geoff they are amazing. I mean my king Cobras are great, and were a big improvement, but not like this. This is the first real evidence that I have had about high end cables.

I wsn't even that excited before putting them in, I bought them because obviously the price was right. Imagine my surprise after hooking them up. That's how I know they are good, because i didn't WANT them to be, they simply are.

They have made the music WAY more exciting. God I can't believe where I am at now with my rig. I want for nothing now except more LPs!!


At a time when most teenagers don't want to spend 5 minutes in a room with their parents I have spent most Saturday's with my son riding around listening to and talking about music while finding some pretty good deals on gear.

Honestly kid, that sounds so great. It's all i am hoping for, that him and I can connect at some level around music. We have him enrolled in music lessons which at this point, is a group format where they can sample between guitar, piano, drums, etc. This is what I really want for him, then him and the old man can jam together, Partridge family style!

You are a lucky guy, but i don't need to tell you that. I still have alot more work to do, like for example getting him to use a Kleenex instead of his sleeve. Aren't you glad those days are behind you now?


You might want to double check that Split Enz. It might be laser etched. Mine is.

Thanks for the heads up SB. I am a pretty big Split Enz fan, and have all of their work on LP. Frankly, I have never seen a copy of True Colours without the laser etching. My son's has it, and really the LP probably has value up to 7 or 8 bucks. But hey we paid 1.99 and I figure let him have it, he loves the disc, makes him feel grown up having something other than Sesame street Disco, which BTW rocks!

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[thekid]

You are a lucky guy, but i don't need to tell you that. I still have alot more work to do, like for example getting him to use a Kleenex instead of his sleeve. Aren't you glad those days are behind you now?

Pops

I am a lucky guy.
Just remember there are always days to get behind but there are a lot more to look forward to.

Happy Holidays to you and all my AR family........ :22:

[dakatabg]

Few new additions

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[luvtolisten]

You've been busy!
My second pair of speakers back in the 70's were a pair of Cerwin Vega's. Sometimes thinking back, things seem better then they actually were, but as I recall they weren't that bad, but then again I played mostly rock 99% of the time.

I remember the Hitachi receivers. There big marketing point early on,was having a class D amplifier. It seems to me some in the late 70's or early 80's had a gold face.

That looks like a Yamaha sub.Their entry level subs were rated decent for the lower budget level. Good finds!

[dakatabg]

They were given to me because the foam was bad, I refoamed them and here they are, a pair of JBL LX440.


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[luvtolisten]

Nice job on the refoam. Are those aluminum tweeters? How do you like the sound?

[dakatabg]

I have refoamed many speakers already so it is an easy job for me. I don't think the tweeters are aluminum. They sound very good, after new year I will hear to see how they will sound compared with my Minimus-7 and maybe I will keep them.

[Charlie04SiR]

sweet mackenoly, dak! Where do you find this stuff?? :D

poppa, wow that portable record player is cool! Your son is a chip off the old block ,ehh? :)

[thekid]

Well I had a relapse today and picked another pair of speakers.
Cosmetically they are in fairly good shape given their age.
Biggest problem is that both tweeters are out so another project. Not sure what I will do with them. My guess is they are probably similar in sound to my Dynaco A-25's based on their size and drivers. But what the heck for $15 I figured one more for the stack....... :D

[Geoffcin]

These I got!

[dakatabg]

You can't pass them for just $15.

Lately I see many KLH 17 on craigslist for like 50 to 80 bucks.

[thekid]

These I got!

G

Are you saying you have a pair of 6's?
If so what do you think of them?
Are they worth the effort to solve the the tweeter issue?

[dakatabg]

Brand new Onkyo 7.1 Surround Receiver. It has Serious Radio, HDMI inputs and many more! 130wpc

http://i56.tinypic.com/a3drih.jpg

[dakatabg]

New Kenny Set in the house!

http://i52.tinypic.com/kccbrq.jpg

[Feanor]

New Kenny Set in the house!

http://i52.tinypic.com/kccbrq.jpg
Congrats. More super silver stuff -- I love it.

[dakatabg]

The guy was a Vietnam veteran and he said he bought them brand new from Germany. I have the manual books too. The amp is similar to the KA-6000 I have, the buttons and knobs are exactly the same, the look too.

The tuner is a beauty and all lights work. Overall good deal.

[thekid]

The guy was a Vietnam veteran and he said he bought them brand new from Germany. I have the manual books too. The amp is similar to the KA-6000 I have, the buttons and knobs are exactly the same, the look too.

The tuner is a beauty and all lights work. Overall good deal.

Congrats Dak!
What gear are you actually listening to now?

[dakatabg]

Mostly I use the Dynaco tube amp with the JBL L100 now and Marantz 2250B

Sometimes I power up the other units too but the 2 listed are the main ones.

[luvtolisten]

I bought these off CL. I got them cheap, so I really can't complain. As you can see one of the drivers is not original (MTX). I didn't know it when I bought them. The guy selling them had the grills off of one and the grill on the other speaker when I went over to take a look. You can guess which speaker he left the grill on:wink5: . I guess I was a little too trusting maybe, it was 8:30 AM and I was running short on time to meet an old friend for breakfast. I know if the seller would have been upfront I would have bought them anyway, so I'm not complaining, just don't like the idea that he might be thinking he pulled a fast one on me. I was able to buy a replacement driver (MW6502) cheap off ebay, a pair of monitor 4's with a bad woofer and a bad tweeter. I just had him send me the good woofer & tweeter and pitch the rest (cabinets, they were beat), to cut down the price of shipping. I put the replacement woofer in, and I really like the sound of these. The cabinets are mint too.They are keepers! All's well that ends well!

[thekid]

I bought these off CL. I got them cheap, so I really can't complain. As you can see one of the drivers is not original (MTX). I didn't know it when I bought them. The guy selling them had the grills off of one and the grill on the other speaker when I went over to take a look. You can guess which speaker he left the grill on:wink5: . I guess I was a little too trusting maybe, it was 8:30 AM and I was running short on time to meet an old friend for breakfast. I know if the seller would have been upfront I would have bought them anyway, so I'm not complaining, just don't like the idea that he might be thinking he pulled a fast one on me. I was able to buy a replacement driver (MW6502) cheap off ebay, a pair of monitor 4's with a bad woofer and a bad tweeter. I just had him send me the good woofer & tweeter and pitch the rest (cabinets, they were beat), to cut down the price of shipping. I put the replacement woofer in, and I really like the sound of these. The cabinets are mint too.They are keepers! All's well that ends well!

Congrats L2L!!
The Polk Monitor series from that time period are something special.

[dakatabg]

Those are very good speakers. One of my friends has a pair of those or similar (they look the same) and they sounded so good with a Marantz 2230. They have a lot of bass to for their size.

I see you have stacked few more pairs on the back!

[luvtolisten]

Congrats L2L!!
The Polk Monitor series from that time period are something special.

Thanks kid. I've had these in the back of my mind for a while, just couldn't find a "deal'.
But now I'm finding out first hand, these guys are special.

[luvtolisten]

Those are very good speakers. One of my friends has a pair of those or similar (they look the same) and they sounded so good with a Marantz 2230. They have a lot of bass to for their size.

I see you have stacked few more pairs on the back!

Thanks Dak, I agree they do have a lot of bass for their size. I can't remember ever hearing bass so low without being muddy coming out of a speaker with a single 6.5" driver.
Yet on the Polk site, out of the 13 reviews only one listed the bass as a strenth, and 3 or 4 listed it as a weakness. Must be the ones who listed it as having no bass must not have the drivers sealed properly, or underpowered. (They do like power).

Yep, I have a few stacked in the back as well as in another room. I'm up somewhere between 35- 40 pairs of speakers now.

Here's a pic of what I'm listening to now, I have them all hooked up using 2 switch boxes (6 pr. ea). I know it's an audiophile no no, but I like the conveinence of just pushing a button rather than physically connecting and disconnecting each one. I do rotate another pair or 2 in and out every 3 or 4 months.
Pictured are:
Top row: Wharfedale Evo 10's,Paradigm Titians,Klipsch KG 2's, Boston A60's,Infinity Beta 20's, and B&O Bevox 45-2's.
Bottom row: Polk SDA II's, Polk Monitor 7b's, Wharfedale WD 60 Mark III's, Genesis I, Advent Prodigy's, Yamaha NS 4's.
Foreground EPI 201's.
Sorry it's just you can only see 1/2 of the speakers in play, but the width of the room prevented me from standing back for a full shot.

[dakatabg]

Since we are on a roll this week, I got another Sansui AU-717 ( with the rack handles this time )

I just set up the bias and dc offset on it and ready to play!

Here is a picture of it and of the whole Sansui black stack!

http://i55.tinypic.com/eq7uq.jpg

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[luvtolisten]

Very nice.! I have only heard good things about the sound of the 717, and hear it's built like a tank to boot.

[dakatabg]

O yes 2 big transformers and 4 big caps! It is about 40 pounds!

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[Glen B]

Since we are on a roll this week, I got another Sansui AU-717 ( with the rack handles this time )

I just set up the bias and dc offset on it and ready to play!

Here is a picture of it and of the whole Sansui black stack!

http://i55.tinypic.com/eq7uq.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/se9g05.jpg

Very nice. :thumbsup:

[dakatabg]

A pair of Pioneer speakers with huge 16" woofers for free!

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[dakatabg]

My first Mitsubishi receiver today!

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[thekid]

Since moving the Heresy I's to the front of the main HT set-up I have been looking for something to match in the rear. Got lucky and picked these up. They are KM2's which were the military version of the KG 1.2. (For a while Klipsch sold some models of specifically for the military market).

In my limited time with them they impress me with their wide soundstage (with some help from a sub) and efficiency. The do mids and highs very well and do not need much power to make them sing. I think they will work great for the surrounds and make my wife happy that the larger TF-600's that in place now will be moving out. (She does not know yet the 600's are only moving into the next room....... :biggrin5: )

[dakatabg]

Those are nice vintage speakers! I didn't know Klipsch was making stuff for the military, I knew Cerwin Vega did.

[thekid]

Those are nice vintage speakers! I didn't know Klipsch was making stuff for the military, I knew Cerwin Vega did.

From what I have heard that a few years back it was not unusual for some audio manufacturers to make gear specific to the military market. Kenwood, Pioneer and Klipsch are just 3 that I am aware of but there were probably others. Most of the times the gear was just re-badged models currently in production but only marketed through Base Exchanges or the manufacturer reps who sold gear on base to military personnel returning from overseas. Sometimes the rebadged gear had slight differences from their regular market twins. These slight change in the material either made it better or worse than its clone according to some but I don't know you could tell unless someone had the opportunity to test them side by side.

In the case of these Klipsch they are clones of the Klipsch KG 1.2 bookshelf speaker. Everything is the same except there is a different tweeter and their production dates are different. The KG had a K-86 tweeter and the KM have a K-89 tweeter. Also they made the KG 1.2 from 92-94 and the KM from 94-97. Other than those differences their specs are exactly the same. Based on the dates of production I am not sure they qualify as vintage-certainly not compared to my Heresy's but I am not going to complain. Many people who like Klipsch like the KG series as much as they do some of the Heritage line speakers which preceeded them. As far as I can tell the KG 1.2 was one of, if not the earliest bookshelf speaker produced by Klipsch.

I have purchased several pieces of gear from former miltary personnel who told me that when they got back from Vietnam and flew into Germany that the manufacturer's had tents set up with catalogs and gear that you could listen to and test. I have been fortunate to pick up a few of these military versions which often fly under the radar compared to their more popular clone. Something to keep in mind when hunting for particular vintage gear.

[luvtolisten]

Nice pick up kid! I have the KG2's,and I do like them. The KG2's ran from '82 to 92, and were called a "bookshelf" although quite large for a bookshelf by today's standards. I think anything back in those days that didn't sit on directly the floor was called a bookshelf!

[luvtolisten]

My first Mitsubishi receiver today!
Interesting! I knew they used to made TV's , but not receivers. Has to be rare!

[Glen B]

They made other hi-fi components as well, including separates. I owned a Mitsubishi CD player for a short while in the early '90s.

[Poultrygeist]

For $10 I just scored a Optimus STAV-3100 receiver at Goodwill Thrift Store. It's a strange mix between old and new as it sports CD inputs, tape in and outs plus a phono stage, tone controls,15 presets, and a remote. It has large heat sinks and cranks out 100 wpc rms.

It's destined to become the king of my garage gear and if the old Marantz loses a channel it may be invited inside.

[Mr Peabody]

For $10 I just scored a Optimus STAV-3100 receiver at Goodwill Thrift Store. It's a strange mix between old and new as it sports CD inputs, tape in and outs plus a phono stage, tone controls,15 presets, and a remote. It has large heat sinks and cranks out 100 wpc rms.

It's destined to become the king of my garage gear and if the old Marantz loses a channel it may be invited inside.

Now that's how to buy vintage :)

[dakatabg]

Two 16" Woofers party monsters.


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[luvtolisten]

That would do it!:3:

[dakatabg]

My first touch with a Nikko receiver.

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[thekid]

Nikko gear is a bit of a sleeper.
That is from a period a little later than what I am familiar with so I am curious to hear what you think of it. Does that thing have a built in EQ and Reverb on it?

[Mr Peabody]

Dak, I see some of that Nikko stuff surface occasionally how does it compare to your other receivers in sound quality? I'm familiar with the name only.

[dakatabg]

Hello Thekid/Wolverine and Mr. Peabody

Honestly it sounds like crap! I was very disappointed when I heard it, I guess that is one of the last things Nikko was making before they closed down. I have heard that their silver face receivers are pretty good but I never had one(yet).

I got a very cool brochure with most of the Nikko gear from that year with all models and specs. I have one for the Dynaco gear as well from their time with all their gear!

Here are some pictures of the brochure!


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[Feanor]

This is time equipment started to look really ugly; the early-mid '80s I'd guess. The Nikko is by no means the worst example, though.


My first touch with a Nikko receiver.

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[dakatabg]

I agree with you Feanor.


Now this is a nice looking and I guess sounding Nikko amplifier from the gold time!

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[thekid]

Daks- Sorry to hear about the SQ on your Nikko.
If you do come across either a silver-face NR-819 or higher jump on it. I think you will like it. I use a 819 at my office to drive a pair of Wharfdale 60E's and it is quite impressive. Also though I have not heard them the Alpha and Beta amps and pre-amps listed in your brochure enjoy a good reputation.

From what I have heard Nikko was a Japanese company that produced electrical switches and other electrical products for industrial use. The owner's son was a real audiophile so the dad set him up in business. Supposedly during ther early years they built high-quality gear but because they knew little about the market they priced it cheap relative to the quality and build cost. Problem was they were competing in a very crowded market and were loosing money. After several years the dad decided to shut down junior's "hobby".

You can search over on AK and there is a thread there somewhere from one of their former sales reps or engineers.

[dakatabg]

Even if it was good I probably wasn't going to keep it for long.

I keep collectable pieces.

I am looking to get another jbl l100, it is probably the best speaker I have ever had.

I was going to buy a pair of Dynaco A-25 for $80 on the craigslist but someone claimed them before me. I will keep looking, I want to get some nice speakers!

[(O0o*o0O)]

Here is my most recent addition. A pair of Technics SB-4500 speakers that have excellent cabinets and only need a few miner touch ups. I'm currently replacing the material on the grills and replacing the dust caps. The said to be non-deteriorating surrounds have held true and are in great shape.
I hope to keep these speakers and add them two a vintage 2-channel system. Either my own or push my step dad to take them.
These speakers were on a list I had of vintage items I wanted to see and hear. They cost me 50 dollars and I was to excited to barter. Everything it needs I have on hand so its still a great deal. Just haven't hooked them up for myself yet. 35 watts RMS scares me so I'm waiting on an old Pioneer or Kenwood stereo receiver to come along.
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[thekid]

Even if it was good I probably wasn't going to keep it for long.

I keep collectable pieces.

I am looking to get another jbl l100, it is probably the best speaker I have ever had.

I was going to buy a pair of Dynaco A-25 for $80 on the craigslist but someone claimed them before me. I will keep looking, I want to get some nice speakers!

Good luck finding that JBL orphan.
If you find a pair of 25's you will be rewarded. great little speaker that produces bass far beyond its size.

[Glen B]

I guess that is one of the last things Nikko was making before they closed down.

No, it was not one of the last things made. :smile5: Read on. Nikko did not only make audio products but were manufacturers of circuit breakers as well. In 1986, Nikko Corporation was purchased by ASTI Pacific Corporation, and was renamed ASTI Nikko Technology Corporation. ASTI focused only on separates to compete in the high end arena. The audio products made under the ASTI NIkko banner were the Beta 400 and 600 preamps, Gamma 400 tuner, and Alpha 400, 600, 800, and 2000 amps. They did not make receivers. ASTI eventually sold the audio manufacturing portion of the business to some unknown Canadian company, shortly after which the brand disappeared. ASTI Corporation still exists, just that they are no longer in the consumer audio business. I owned a number of Nikko separates between 1984 and 1996, including the Alpha 2000 amp.

ASTI Corp: http://www.asti.co.jp/e/co/co02.html

[luvtolisten]

Just got this, a Sony STR4800SD. I got it for sentimental reasons (the second receiver I ever owned was this same model). I ended up giving it away (big mistake) when I bought newer Sony from the middle 80's, with supposedly more power 55 WPC vs.35 WPC of the 4800, yet the 4800 always sounded more powerful to me. (About the time most recievers started to inflate their wattage specs) This one is in nice shape, has Dolby FM, plus another unique feature,which Sony called Acoustic Comp.The usual "Loudness' compensation, a "Low" compensation (just boosting the lows) and 'Presence" (which boosted the mids). This one I'll be keeping.

[dakatabg]

I like those silver Sony receivers. They have some good reputation.

[(O0o*o0O)]

Picked these CS-R300 Pioneer speakers up along with a theater system. What to do?

Behind them are a pair of dB Plus 9090 speakers I've restored. Need to finish grills.

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n588/i0ovo0i/P2100001-1.jpg

[dakatabg]

Hey (O0o*o0O), that is a nice pick up! How do they sound?

[(O0o*o0O)]

The Pioneer speakers upon first test they sounded great. As long as everything works I'm going to jump right in to restoring them. The cabinets are thick and very well built. The banana fiber cones are really cool, but I'm going to have to replace the surrounds I think.

The dB 990 speakers are amazing. With cracking surrounds and completely gone passive woofers these things rock. I didn't give them to much volume at first; just seeing what I was up against. I couldn't believe the sound that came from them. Even a deep bass with a nine inch hole in them.

The dB speakers are near complete. they might go to a family member. These come from Canada from the early 80's. The company is now Energy.

[luvtolisten]

Nice pick up! Those dB speakers just look like they'd have good sound, being an early Energy model, reinforces that.:thumbsup:

[thekid]

OO
Interesting grills on those Pioneers.
It looks like you are starting to build a bit of a speaker collection.

[(O0o*o0O)]

Those grills are two pieces. I'm not sure about redoing them and if I should go with another color. I don't have any orange material to match. I'm attaching grill guides to the cabinets and grills. The baffles are like rough slabs of wood so I intend on finishing them. The woofers are getting new surrounds and black dust caps.

I love vintage gear and hope to set aside more for myself someday.

[thekid]

I love vintage gear and hope to set aside more for myself someday.

Be careful....it can be an addicting habit.

BTW- I see you have some Sony ES gear. I have the same CD Player as well as a GA8ES receiver and a 333ESG tuner.
I traded a GX69ES this morning for something a bit older that I will be posting pics of later today once I clean it up.

[dakatabg]

Be careful....it can be an addicting habit.


This addiction can't be cured, you carry it on for life :)

[thekid]

As I alluded to in an early post I took a gamble and traded some gear for my first journey into tube gear. From everything I have read my Klipsch Heresy's will sound completely different with tubes (I am already impressed with their sound using SS)

Not sure if it will power up and I need to replace at least 1 tube. It cleaned up pretty well though there is some pitting and lettering missing in the back. The faceplate looks good though so no concerns there.

It might be a nice doorstop or something special I will just have to see. If anyone is familiar with the Fisher X-100-C please lend me any help you can. It is needed and would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

[JoeE SP9]

That reminds me of the first piece of gear I ever bought. It was a Fisher KX-90 kit amplifier. That Fisher a Miracord TT and a pair of AR speakers were what got me "hooked". All of them were bought new in 1967.

[Geoffcin]

As I alluded to in an early post I took a gamble and traded some gear for my first journey into tube gear. From everything I have read my Klipsch Heresy's will sound completely different with tubes (I am already impressed with their sound using SS)

Not sure if it will power up and I need to replace at least 1 tube. It cleaned up pretty well though there is some pitting and lettering missing in the back. The faceplate looks good though so no concerns there.

It might be a nice doorstop or something special I will just have to see. If anyone is familiar with the Fisher X-100-C please lend me any help you can. It is needed and would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

Sweet!!!

I have a Fisher 500c receiver from about the same era. First thing your going to want to do is replace the filter caps, and coupling caps for good measure. For sure they are dried out, and are well past their service lifetime. The selenium rectifier is also problematic, but if the unit hasn't been abused it might still be serviceable. The output tubes might or might not be OK. You'll have to test them and then re-bias the amp. Unless you can do it yourself (it's not hard but you should see it done once before you try) I would have a competent tech go over your amp before you crank it up.

Good luck!

[thekid]

Sweet!!!

I have a Fisher 500c receiver from about the same era. First thing your going to want to do is replace the filter caps, and coupling caps for good measure. For sure they are dried out, and are well past their service lifetime. The selenium rectifier is also problematic, but if the unit hasn't been abused it might still be serviceable. The output tubes might or might not be OK. You'll have to test them and then re-bias the amp. Unless you can do it yourself (it's not hard but you should see it done once before you try) I would have a competent tech go over your amp before you crank it up.

Good luck!

Thanks G!

As I research this a bit more the advice you give seems to be similar to what I have read.
Looks like I will wait until I can take it up the road to the audio people who have done some work for me before. they charge a minimal check out fee so it won't hurt to let them look at it first.

[dakatabg]

Thekid, that receiver is very well regarded, the Fisher tube receivers are very nice. I hope you get that puppy going

[dakatabg]

Today I got my first Luxman receiver. It is with a digital tuner so I will assume it is one of the last gear luxman made. It sounds alright to me.

http://i51.tinypic.com/9ibxc5.jpg

[luvtolisten]

:thumbsup: What's the power rating?

[dakatabg]

It is 40wpc, it has power! My HK 330C stopped working and I am going to replace the transistors ( I just ordered them online ) so the Luxman will replace the harman for a while!

[Mr Peabody]

I've got an older Luxman, I think R-110, it is a very clean sounding receiver with a lot of detail but lacks bass authority.

[Feanor]

Today I got my first Luxman receiver. It is with a digital tuner so I will assume it is one of the last gear luxman made. It sounds alright to me.

http://i51.tinypic.com/9ibxc5.jpg
It that an R-404, Dataka? If so, I'd guess you're right about it being one of the last. According to the Luxman Vintage Audio site, the 404 was made in 1985, (see here (http://www.hilberink.nl/codehans/datumlux.htm)). Alpine bought Lux in 1984 so this might have been one of last pre-Alpine designed models.

Alpine used the brand for quite a while after that, sold off Luxman in the early '00s. And of course, Luxman is back in the game today with some pretty nice stuff, (see here (http://www.luxman.co.jp/global/index.html)). I'm likin' this L-550AII Class A integrated amp.

I owned this C-120A preamp, (bought used), for a while but wasn't sufficiently impressed to keep it ...

[dakatabg]

Yea that is the same model. I know Luxman was making nice stuff but they are not that popular and they are very hard to find. I don't see them on craigslist at all.

Mr. Peabody, you are right, it really doesn't have bass but the mids and highs are pretty decent.

[dakatabg]

Today I got a project one cassette deck! In great condition and works good. I like it a lot and I am planning on keeping it!

I don't know anything about the head inside it says SC head, is it any good?

http://i54.tinypic.com/dy87z9.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/34exahf.jpg

[Slosh]

I started a new thread but will post here too. It's a Vector Research VR-2200A and sounds much better than its looks would lead you to believe :)

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/Slosh_album/VR2200A001.jpg

[luvtolisten]

Nice! I remember the name, in the late seventies. They offered twice the power at almost half the price of their competition. Were they an independent company? Back then rumors were flying around they were associated with a larger company that produced high quality amps.

[Slosh]

Nice! I remember the name, in the late seventies. They offered twice the power at almost half the price of their competition. Were they an independent company? Back then rumors were flying around they were associated with a larger company that produced high quality amps.This is just speculation but the back of the receiver is absolutely identical to the Rotel 403, right down to the speaker output fuse cover. Nothing inside said Rotel on it that I saw. I'm thinking it may have been built on the same line as Rotel but with a generic power transformer, caps, etc. It does sound very nice for $10.00 :)

[luvtolisten]

I was browsing the local Craiglist and found these last posted over a month ago. They were listed Very reasonable. The add stated if he didn't sell them within a week, he would donate them. Just for laughs I sent him an email. He still had them! He thought the woofers were shot, but they just need to be refoamed. I became a fan of BA about 2 years ago, when I bought a used pair of A 60 II's & HD9's at a garage sale. I remember the A60's, at the time they were out I wasn't impressed. (I had Cerwin Vega's at the time)But with age my taste has changed. I still enjoy rock, but it's not all I listen too now as I did back then. I haven't had a chance to really listen to them yet, only to check out to make sure all the drivers were working, they need to be refoamed first. They have had decent reviews for the most part. I was going to recap them too. I was going to buy poly caps for the higher frequencies, and electrolytic for the lower frequencies (which is a 120uf, 70uf caps which would break the bank if I did all poly caps). I have bought electrolytic caps from Parts Express in the past, they seem to sound okay, but they are just wimpy looking compared to other original caps in quality speakers (new or old), yet rated the same value and same voltage as the original caps. Maybe I'm wrong, but because of the smaller physical size, I question the longevity of the PE caps.Does anyone know of a source where I can buy beefier electrolytic caps without breaking the bank? Also I've read putting a small or insignificant value in parallel with an electrolytic cap can improve the sound. Anyone ever try this?

[thekid]

Nice pick up LTL!
I have hear A150's and thought they sound pretty good so I will be curious to hear what you think of these once they are re-capped and refoamed.

I also posted a pic on an older thread over in General Audio but here was my pick-up over the weekend.....
My second Oppo score in the last couple of months. Life is good.

[dakatabg]

Not vintage but I just wanted to share. I received this Energy powered sub. My first touch with Energy sub. It pounds hard and the bass is smooth.


http://i56.tinypic.com/ipb236.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2cn76vd.jpg

[luvtolisten]

Very nice! I have 2 Energy subs (esw 8's, similar, but down-firing)) nice sub for the money. As you say, smooth. Also very musical and natural (good tone definition, not so much of the artificial boominess). Works well with a 2 channel setup.

[badhabit67]

Great pick ups guys... Thought I'd share what I got yesterday,there a little rough,and they don't have the grilles,but I can revive them...... For $50 bucks what do you want??

[luvtolisten]

JBL's? You STOLE them!!! Great pick up!!

[dakatabg]

Since we are talking about JBL speakers, I got a pair of big monsters. I didn't even know JBL made speakers like that! 15" woofers inside each cabinet. They are not of the best JBL speakers but they are very loud and the bass response it not bad.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2b2vs3.jpg

[dakatabg]

Here is one well regarded and heavy as hell Pioneer receiver. This thing is loaded with so many options! There are many good reviews about it!


http://i55.tinypic.com/i59mko.jpg

[Feanor]

Here is one well regarded and heavy as hell Pioneer receiver. This thing is loaded with so many options! There are many good reviews about it!


http://i55.tinypic.com/i59mko.jpg
Gad-zooks! :shocked: There's a button for everthing!

[badhabit67]

JBL's? You STOLE them!!! Great pick up!!

That makes three sets that I've got in the last 2 months,Grand Total, $200 bucks.:crazy:

I've just been at the right place at the right times,I guess....... Nice weekend grabs all.
Some nice gear

[thekid]

BH-Nice pick up on the JBL's.

Daks-I like the Laser Disc display. It would go perfectly with my DVL-909..... :D

[dakatabg]

Yeah that receiver has so many options.

I have a Sony laser disc and i've had it for sale for few months and no luck selling it. Seems that no one buys them anymore

[thekid]

I have a Sony laser disc and i've had it for sale for few months and no luck selling it. Seems that no one buys them anymore

Almost no one..... :D
I have 3 Pioneer LD's but the DVL is my fav. It was one of their TOTL players a few years ago.

[badhabit67]

[QUOTE=dakatabg]Since we are talking about JBL speakers, I got a pair of big monsters. I didn't even know JBL made speakers like that! 15" woofers inside each cabinet. They are not of the best JBL speakers but they are very loud and the bass response it not bad.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2b2vs3.jpg[/QUOTE

That was Harman's feeble attempt at building a jbl, I believe there model d315's.

[dakatabg]

You got it badhabit67, that is the exact model of them!

[dakatabg]

That is a very nice receiver! Make sure you adjust the DC Offset and the Idle.

[badhabit67]

WOW: did those pic's come up? It said there was an upload error!!!! Nope guess not,darn thing won't let me upload pic's......

Lets try this again; still won't let me. Any how its a Pioneer SX-650.............

[thekid]

WOW: did those pic's come up? It said there was an upload error!!!! Nope guess not,darn thing won't let me upload pic's......

Lets try this again; still won't let me. Any how its a Pioneer SX-650.............

BH

Well I hope you are able to get pics posted of your "invisible" 650. I am a fan of the Pioneer SX series. I think you will enjoy the 650.