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junkeroos
03-30-2004, 01:49 PM
The makers of this cable hold degrees in Physics and Electrical Engineering and this is what they say in their white paper:

"While testing audio cables for several well-known manufacturers, we learned that their criteria for what supposedly made one cable perform better or worse than another was remarkably inconsistent. One manufacturer's claims countered and negated the claims made by a different manufacturer. Yet each one purported to be the best! As we studied the available literature, we quickly realized that the source of the problem was a lack of hard evidence supporting all the hype. None of the manufacturers offered documented, measurable evidence that it was producing a superior cable. Instead, we found claims of allegedly superior components or materials used in cable construction.

For example, a few leading manufacturers claimed that the most important factor for a cable was low capacitance, using the justification that cable capacitance shunts upper frequencies to ground. In order to lower the capacitance, these companies increased conductor spacing to simultaneously achieve a goal of increased inductance. This approach had drastic side effects, however. Merely decreasing capacitance without taking other realities of signal transmission into consideration increased the noise pickup and introduced a blocking filter. Both of these effects would obviously degrade sonic performance rather than improving it.

Another cable manufacturer advertised that its cable "employs two polymer shafts to dampen conductor resistance", but offered no evidence to prove it. Still another audiophile company claimed that because its cable was flat, "with no twist, it has no inductance". In general, inductance can indeed be reduced by making conductors larger or bringing them closer together. However, physics shows that, in reality, no cable can be built without some level of inductance, so this claim is without scientific merit.

To convey musical information effectively, a cable must provide a structured, low impedance path for the desired signal. This became our goal at Analysis Plus, Inc. We began by applying our expertise in electromagnetic computer simulation and design to rigorously test and study a broad range of audiophile cables currently on the market. Based on what we learned, we then set about designing our own approach to audiophile cables, relying on solid, measurable data rather than subjective claims."

Please refer to the link below for more info on and scientific evidence of Analysis-Plus' superior cable design.
http://www.analysis-plus.com/Pages/thedesign.htm

I think they were referring to Alpha Core, Synergistic Research, and perhaps Nordost, among the manufacturers who they believe are advertising false claims. But what about them? You think their hollow oval design holds water as they tried to prove on their website or is this another myth?

Rockwell
03-30-2004, 02:11 PM
Seems like a solution in search of a problem, but looking at the prices, the goal is clear.

FLZapped
03-30-2004, 03:12 PM
The makers of this cable hold degrees in Physics and Electrical Engineering and this is what they say in their white paper: You think their hollow oval design holds water as they tried to prove on their website or is this another myth?


Depends, if you're making (really, really BIG) mountains outta (teenie, tiny) mole hills, maybe.

-Bruce

pctower
03-30-2004, 04:21 PM
The makers of this cable hold degrees in Physics and Electrical Engineering and this is what they say in their white paper:

"While testing audio cables for several well-known manufacturers, we learned that their criteria for what supposedly made one cable perform better or worse than another was remarkably inconsistent. One manufacturer's claims countered and negated the claims made by a different manufacturer. Yet each one purported to be the best! As we studied the available literature, we quickly realized that the source of the problem was a lack of hard evidence supporting all the hype. None of the manufacturers offered documented, measurable evidence that it was producing a superior cable. Instead, we found claims of allegedly superior components or materials used in cable construction.

For example, a few leading manufacturers claimed that the most important factor for a cable was low capacitance, using the justification that cable capacitance shunts upper frequencies to ground. In order to lower the capacitance, these companies increased conductor spacing to simultaneously achieve a goal of increased inductance. This approach had drastic side effects, however. Merely decreasing capacitance without taking other realities of signal transmission into consideration increased the noise pickup and introduced a blocking filter. Both of these effects would obviously degrade sonic performance rather than improving it.

Another cable manufacturer advertised that its cable "employs two polymer shafts to dampen conductor resistance", but offered no evidence to prove it. Still another audiophile company claimed that because its cable was flat, "with no twist, it has no inductance". In general, inductance can indeed be reduced by making conductors larger or bringing them closer together. However, physics shows that, in reality, no cable can be built without some level of inductance, so this claim is without scientific merit.

To convey musical information effectively, a cable must provide a structured, low impedance path for the desired signal. This became our goal at Analysis Plus, Inc. We began by applying our expertise in electromagnetic computer simulation and design to rigorously test and study a broad range of audiophile cables currently on the market. Based on what we learned, we then set about designing our own approach to audiophile cables, relying on solid, measurable data rather than subjective claims."

Please refer to the link below for more info on and scientific evidence of Analysis-Plus' superior cable design.
http://www.analysis-plus.com/Pages/thedesign.htm

I think they were referring to Alpha Core, Synergistic Research, and perhaps Nordost, among the manufacturers who they believe are advertising false claims. But what about them? You think their hollow oval design holds water as they tried to prove on their website or is this another myth?

When I tried them, I thought they added too much of an echo to the music.

mtrycraft
03-30-2004, 08:29 PM
...To convey musical information effectively, a cable must provide a structured, low impedance path for the desired signal. This became our goal at Analysis Plus, Inc. We began by applying our expertise in electromagnetic computer simulation and design to rigorously test and study a broad range of audiophile cables currently on the market. Based on what we learned, we then set about designing our own approach to audiophile cables, relying on solid, measurable data rather than subjective claims."

Didn't they also discuss skin effect? One would suppose that they would have measured effects from it, reading their own information. Yet, try to find out those measured effects. Mum is the word.


I think they were referring to Alpha Core, Synergistic Research, and perhaps Nordost, among the manufacturers who they believe are advertising false claims.


Interesting that of all the cable companies, they are the only ones who tell the true facts?


But what about them?


Good question. Call them and ask some pointed questions:

What is their measured loss due to skin effect?
What is the frequency response of their cables?
What listeing tests have they conducted and how? Any DBT listeing data?

You think their hollow oval design holds water as they tried to prove on their website or is this another myth?

Hold water? No. But they do pass electrons and energy :)

Oh, don't expect much of a response to the questions, especially to the last one. What they will tell you is to find the nearest dealer and just listen. Worthless advice.