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priince
02-10-2010, 04:39 AM
Hi,
I have a question for someone who has or is using Onkyo TX-SR607. The previous owner of our house had a in-wall wiring throughout the house. However, he has 2 sets of red/black banana plugs with 2 rooms in each set.

How do I connect these to my receiver? I just have one Zone2 and the banana plugs didn't go in. How do I connect it? What kind of plugs/connectors do I need?

Please advise.

Thanks,
Prince

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 05:53 AM
The TX-SR607 is designed to be connected with bare wire. The manual says to strip the end of the wire, insert it in the terminal and screw it down.

priince
02-10-2010, 06:36 AM
The TX-SR607 is designed to be connected with bare wire. The manual says to strip the end of the wire, insert it in the terminal and screw it down.

Thanks for your reply. Wow!! Now that's gonna be a challenge for me. The wiring is so complex that to remove the connectors and plug in the bare wire am gonna be very scared not to mess up the system :S

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 07:29 AM
Is your system setup so you need to plug bananas into a wall outlet? Or are there wires coming out of the wall that have bananas on them?

priince
02-10-2010, 08:17 AM
Is your system setup so you need to plug bananas into a wall outlet? Or are there wires coming out of the wall that have bananas on them?

Wires are coming out of the wall that have bananas on them. The wires are too thin for me to splice them. I used a splitter for 12AWG speaker wires but these are too thin. To make things more complicated, 2 rooms are in one set :$, and there are 2 sets of red/black plugs.

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 08:26 AM
It sounds like you could cut the bananas off, strip the last half-inch of the wires and insert them in the receiver's speaker terminals. If you want to keep the bananas on, you might also be able to put a pin connector on the banana plug, like this...

http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=SPKCN45&preadd=action

priince
02-10-2010, 08:31 AM
It sounds like you could cut the bananas off, strip the last half-inch of the wires and insert them in the receiver's speaker terminals. If you want to keep the bananas on, you might also be able to put a pin connector on the banana plug, like this...

http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=SPKCN45&preadd=action

You are super duper awesome :)) Saved me tons of work and stress :)) I was looking for something like this, but still learning all the names :) Thanks a bunch.

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 08:53 AM
You are super duper awesome :)) Saved me tons of work and stress :)) I was looking for something like this, but still learning all the names :) Thanks a bunch.

Glad I could help out. Now that you know the terms to search for, maybe you could find flexible pin connectors with banana receptacles, so they'll go in your speaker terminals even more easily than the ones I found.

priince
02-10-2010, 09:00 AM
Glad I could help out. Now that you know the terms to search for, maybe you could find flexible pin connectors with banana receptacles, so they'll go in your speaker terminals even more easily than the ones I found.

So why would you like to make it difficult :).. haha!! Kidding. Thanks though, that was a good idea.

priince
02-10-2010, 11:18 AM
So I have already spent 2-3 hours looking for a banana to pin connector (flexible) with no luck.

Any help?

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 11:24 AM
So I have already spent 2-3 hours looking for a banana to pin connector (flexible) with no luck.

Any help?

Come to think of it, I think I'd cut the banana plugs off and strip the last half-inch of the wire. Is there any reason you couldn't do that? You could always put the banana plugs back on, later.

blackraven
02-10-2010, 11:27 AM
If you want flexible connectors, these are what you need.

http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/monster-cable-ql-gfp-h-mkii-127758.html

But the ones that Noob posted will do just fine.

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 11:28 AM
I like the ones blackraven posted best, but you'd have to cut off your existing banana plugs.

priince
02-10-2010, 11:59 AM
If you want flexible connectors, these are what you need.

http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/monster-cable-ql-gfp-h-mkii-127758.html

But the ones that Noob posted will do just fine.

I appreciate your help.

@Audionoob - I can splice wires. Challenges for me are the wires are in-wall, very thin, and multiple. If I make a mistake I don't want to blow up the system or cut the wires too short to reach my receiver. Since I am doing it first time there are chances I might not get them spliced in one go.

blackraven
02-10-2010, 01:56 PM
What gauge wires are the speaker wires if they are too thin? I would consider running new wires if they are smaller than 16g and are long runs.

If you are splicing, I would consider soldering them.

02audionoob
02-10-2010, 02:31 PM
Based on your description, I'd bet I don't fully understand your situation. I'm talking about just removing the plugs from wires I understand to be hanging out of a wall outlet. The way I splice in the wall is just like installing a light fixture, like this picture...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4346595369_2112e77793_m.jpg

Can you show us what you have? Or do you think the pin connectors with the banana receptacles will do what you need?

priince
02-11-2010, 08:12 AM
Based on your description, I'd bet I don't fully understand your situation. I'm talking about just removing the plugs from wires I understand to be hanging out of a wall outlet. The way I splice in the wall is just like installing a light fixture, like this picture...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4346595369_2112e77793_m.jpg

Can you show us what you have? Or do you think the pin connectors with the banana receptacles will do what you need?

Probably I should have showed the pic. I will get it out tonight. The wires that run in-wall and come out to the entertainment rack are red, green, white, black in color covered by a grey insulation with banana plug terminals. I don't know what guage they are. Sorry for being so amateur :(
Appreciate Audionoob and Blackraven for your patience.

02audionoob
02-11-2010, 08:51 AM
Ahhh...bi-wire cable!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4349218420_0d2359fd5c_m.jpg

priince
02-11-2010, 09:00 AM
More like this.. closest to what I have..
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Photos/Default.aspx?i=703144250&tp=1432

Now there are 2 of these.. and 4 banana plugs, 2 reds 2 blacks..

02audionoob
02-11-2010, 09:09 AM
In bi-wiring, one speaker gets an entire set of four wires. Speakers that can be bi-wired have a pair of terminals for the highs and a pair for the lows. So you'd put the red and green on one pair and the white and blue on the other. When you don't bi-wire, you can just leave two of the four wires un-connected.