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E-Stat
01-29-2010, 01:40 PM
Apparently, John Curl doesn't remember your Onkyo amp mod.

Click here. (http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/amp/messages/15/151825.html)

rw

nightflier
01-29-2010, 03:13 PM
Just a minute while I grab a bag of popcorn and take a seat....

E-Stat
01-29-2010, 03:22 PM
Just a minute while I grab a bag of popcorn and take a seat....
I did my best to jog his memory...

rw

Luvin Da Blues
01-29-2010, 05:29 PM
Surely there must be more than one John Curl. Maybe a neighbor or a friend?

Sir Terrence the Terrible
01-29-2010, 07:20 PM
I did my best to jog his memory...

rw

I guess you did :rolleyes5:

However you would have done better by mentioning a particular name, a particular event in a particular year. You would have gotten just a bit more information than just "wrong person"

Nice try though, here is a brownie. :ciappa:

So much for gotcha postings.....

Sir Terrence the Terrible
01-29-2010, 07:21 PM
Just a minute while I grab a bag of popcorn and take a seat....

I hope you choke on that popcorn. Hopefully it would make it the last bag you have.

E-Stat
01-30-2010, 06:21 AM
So much for gotcha postings.....
Apparently, the amps were not particularly memorable to him. I was really curious as to what he would say.

rw

JoeE SP9
01-30-2010, 02:20 PM
Just a minute while I grab a bag of popcorn and take a seat....

Have you tried puffed corn? It's popcorn without the shells and hulls. It's quite addictive. I've got my bag and I'm munching and waiting!:biggrin5:

nightflier
02-01-2010, 11:17 AM
Well lil't is still working up to an explanation, so I think I have time to go to the store and get some puffed corn. Thanks for the tip.

...and my beer is Grolsch, so I can save it for when I get back, lol.

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 12:22 PM
...and my beer is Grolsch, so I can save it for when I get back, lol.
I thought Americans only drank Budweiser and Coors Light :D

JohnMichael
02-01-2010, 12:25 PM
I thought Americans only drank Budweiser and Coors Light :D



Most of us have switched to hand crafted micro brewery beers. Of course to me wine is always my first choice and I will be making a lot of first choices later today.

Oh and I have cheesey balls for a snack.

GMichael
02-01-2010, 12:54 PM
Most of us have switched to hand crafted micro brewery beers. Of course to me wine is always my first choice and I will be making a lot of first choices later today.

Oh and I have cheesey balls for a snack.

TMI my friend. TMI.

Rich-n-Texas
02-01-2010, 12:55 PM
I thought Americans only drank Budweiser and Coors Light :D
Somebody give me something to throw at him. :incazzato:

nightflier
02-01-2010, 12:59 PM
I thought Americans only drank Budweiser and Coors Light :D

Never underestimate the quality of a good import. Maybe it's just my current bias, but most everything that comes from the Netherlands is at least audition-worthy, no?

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 01:45 PM
Never underestimate the quality of a good import. Maybe it's just my current bias, but most everything that comes from the Netherlands is at least audition-worthy, no?
An audition or a tasting? :) I myself am no big fan of Dutch beers, then again I only know the 'commercial' brews, Grolsch Heineken and Amstel to name a few. They're just the basic lager, nothing special. I do however enjoy every now and then Belgian beers, commercial or otherwise, but they are usually a lot heavier and have a disitinctive taste. Not something you want to have with a meal.... They are better had as an aperitif (pre dinner drink) with salty snacks.
Cheers!
http://www.thebeerclub.com.sg/images/ChimayB.gif

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 01:47 PM
Somebody give me something to throw at him. :incazzato:
Didn't mean to cause a stir:nonod:

GMichael
02-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Never underestimate the quality of a good import. Maybe it's just my current bias, but most everything that comes from the Netherlands is at least audition-worthy, no?
If you are talking about their women, then h.ll yes! The audition lines start here.

JoeE SP9
02-01-2010, 02:16 PM
aa, have you just discovered Chimay? I was introduced to it about 10 years ago. Since then I buy it regularly. I also have four of those gold trimmed glasses.
Phila. is a good beer town. There are two bars that have Chimay on tap. Many bars take pride in the large variety of "good" beers they carry. I bought the glasses in a beer paraphernalia store on South St.

nightflier
02-01-2010, 02:31 PM
Ah, yes, and then there's the Dutch women...

http://www.the-spearhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/632hx6.jpg

Not to mention the more progressive take on just about everything from alcohol, drugs to... well you get the idea. My take on the country? Quite plainly: it's my favorite country to visit - people just seem to enjoy life more. Compared to the Belgians, the Brits, the French, the Spanish, and just about every other Western European country, there just seems to be more rejoicing in that little rainy corner of the continent. I also think this is reflected in the quality of the audio equipment that they produce. And it's one country that knows how to party; just ask Worf what he thought of his vacation there last summer.

AA, yes Chimay is a fine beer, but I'm still a fan of traditional Grolsch, the best balanced beer IMO. Amstel is just a notch above Orangeboom and the rest of the "export-focussed" stuff. But get yourself some Christoffel Bier and that will grow some hair on your chest! If that's too rich for ya, maybe something like Leeuw Beer might be more to your taste, although that's a bit too sweet for my palate. Heineken is barely passable with little character these days, but there was a time when it was better. Now that they've bought out everyone who competed with them, they aren't exactly well regarded in a country that idealizes the little guys (after all it's a small country, too).

By the way, you only have to be 16 years old to buy beer there, before you can register for the army or drive a car. How's that for progressive?

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 02:34 PM
aa, have you just discovered Chimay?
What would make you think that? :) Chimay is something you can buy off the shelf at the local grocery shop here, so I guess I really discovered it (taste wise) a few years back thanks to my best buddy suggesting it to me, who so happens to be from Belgium. I'm only 22 but I started appreciating beer about 7 years ago so I do have a few favourites.
American beers however, I haven't a clue about :) You'll have to initiate me!

E-Stat
02-01-2010, 02:34 PM
I thought Americans only drank Budweiser and Coors Light :D
There are some of us who do prefer Coors Light when we choose to drink beer. I've had countless different Asian, European, Australian and American lagers and indeed there are countless having more "character". Micro breweries abound here in the states. I drink beer more as a thirst quencher and prefer a cold, light approach. While on a skiing trip in Colorado, I stopped by their main facility in Golden for a free tour. It is the largest single beer brewing facility in the world. They generate their own power and provide it free to a nearby college. They pioneered the use of recyclable aluminum cans back in 1959 and have always focused on delivering the product fresh and cold.

I turn to single malt scotch when I'm in a sippin' mood and want a distinctive flavor. Say Glenfarclas, Laphroaig, or Bruichladdich. :)

rw

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 02:40 PM
Ah, yes, and then there's the Dutch women...

http://www.the-spearhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/632hx6.jpg

You're saying you can't get this in sunny Cali? I've seen some pretty hot babes in the US...



By the way, you only have to be 16 years old to buy beer there, before you can register for the army or drive a car. How's that for progressive?
When I was 13, my mom told me to go buy some beer at the local grocery store. I had no problems bringing home a 24 pack :D

nightflier
02-01-2010, 02:54 PM
You're saying you can't get this in sunny Cali? I've seen some pretty hot babes in the US...

Certainly, but if you ask for her number, she will either respond quoting the Bible or ask what kind of car you drive. In the Netherlands, you don't get dissed when you tell them it's a bicycle.

:yesnod:

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 02:56 PM
Certainly, but if you ask for her number, she will either respond quoting the Bible or ask what kind of car you drive. In the Netherlands, you don't get dissed when you tell them it's a bicycle.

:yesnod:
Haha, interesting point!

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Not to mention the more progressive take on just about everything from alcohol, drugs to... well you get the idea. My take on the country? Quite plainly: it's my favorite country to visit - people just seem to enjoy life more. Compared to the Belgians, the Brits, the French, the Spanish, and just about every other Western European country, there just seems to be more rejoicing in that little rainy corner of the continent. I also think this is reflected in the quality of the audio equipment that they produce. And it's one country that knows how to party; just ask Worf what he thought of his vacation there last summer.


I agree. The French are unpleasent and even snotty sometimes (I know I was raised there). I find the Brits to be a lot more pleasant and helpful in general. The Italiens are often refered to as 'happy french'. And the spanish... I like. Ive yet to visit the Netherlands but one of my good friends now lives in Amsterdam so I probably should pay him a visit.

JoeE SP9
02-01-2010, 03:09 PM
What would make you think that? :) Chimay is something you can buy off the shelf at the local grocery shop here, so I guess I really discovered it (taste wise) a few years back thanks to my best buddy suggesting it to me, who so happens to be from Belgium. I'm only 22 but I started appreciating beer about 7 years ago so I do have a few favourites.
American beers however, I haven't a clue about :) You'll have to initiate me!

IMO:
Without offending anyone (I hope) my suggestion is, major brand name American beers are not worth investigating. There are many American craft beers from smaller breweries that rival the best German and Belgian brews. I can't comment on light beers of any type. I think all of them taste truly awful. When I just want to drink beer I get Pilsner Urquell. I don't like or drink malt liquor either.

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 03:23 PM
IMO:
Without offending anyone (I hope) my suggestion is, major brand name American beers are not worth investigating. There are many American craft beers from smaller breweries that rival the best German and Belgian brews. I can't comment on light beers of any type. I think all of them taste truly awful. When I just want to drink beer I get Pilsner Urquell. I don't like or drink malt liquor either.
Funny you mention Pilsner, I was in Prague (Czech Republic) last September. Everyone one was telling me they had some good beers there, but Pilsner didn't do anything for me.

I think Coors Light etc are okay as a refreshing drinks, no more. Just like EStat, I enjoy a light lager as a refreshment. Hard liquor I don't have a taste for, save a few I really enjoy when I have them (Bailey's, Disaronno).

I think we're drifting pretty severly from the original heated debate to be. It's funny how some of these threads change to beer talk :D

nightflier
02-01-2010, 03:47 PM
I think we're drifting pretty severly from the original heated debate to be

Well there's one person not complaining about that....

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Well lil't is still working up to an explanation, so I think I have time to go to the store and get some puffed corn. Thanks for the tip.

...and my beer is Grolsch, so I can save it for when I get back, lol.

Sir T is not working up anything, so drink away and maybe your will drown(at least I hope you will). And yes the puffed corn was a waste, and shucks you didn't choke!

audio amateur
02-01-2010, 04:33 PM
Sir T is not working up anything
How 'bout a little beer talk then? :) You drink beer?

nightflier
02-02-2010, 09:51 AM
So John Curl doesn't know who you are?

poppachubby
02-02-2010, 10:06 AM
...
Not to mention the more progressive take on just about everything from alcohol, drugs to... well you get the idea. My take on the country? Quite plainly: it's my favorite country to visit - people just seem to enjoy life more.


Spent 6 weeks just outside of Eindhoven. Changed my life.

JSE
02-02-2010, 01:17 PM
So Curl doesn't remember a Onkyo mod he might have done about 4 years ago after being given some very basic & limited info which did not include the name of the person who had to mod done?

That's your evidence?

OoooooKaaaaaay! :shocked: :out:

Rich-n-Texas
02-02-2010, 03:20 PM
I'm looking forward to the Curling competition at this years Olympics!

Woochifer
02-02-2010, 07:51 PM
Apparently, John Curl doesn't remember your Onkyo amp mod.

Click here. (http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/amp/messages/15/151825.html)

rw

What a waste of a thread. Were you like the teachers' playground snitch back in grade school too? :sleep:

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 07:45 AM
What a waste of a thread.
Honestly, I wanted to get a flavor from Curl as to what he did to the Onkyo amps. If he could truly transform a $300 amp like the M-282 into a world class unit, then I was most certainly interested. Frankly, I was surprised that he neither remembered the project nor our famous recording engineer.

rw

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 08:34 AM
Honestly, I wanted to get a flavor from Curl as to what he did to the Onkyo amps. If he could truly transform a $300 amp like the M-282 into a world class unit, then I was most certainly interested. Frankly, I was surprised that he neither remembered the project nor our famous recording engineer.

rw

Who said anything about a $300 M-282? Who mentioned anything about a comparison between my mod amps and a JC-1. I count you guilty on two counts.

I made no mention of a mod to a M-282, or mentioned any comparison with another amp. This was you flying off the handle in an effort to play gotcha, and it failed miserably. You don't even have your basic facts straight!

I don't believe you mentioned my name at all. So not much to remember is there? You did not mention much of anything, so there is NOTHING to remember.

The only "honest" thing you tried to do is embarrass somebody else, and it blew up in your face. Too bad :sad:

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 08:52 AM
So John Curl doesn't know who you are?

Since there was no name mentioned, how would he brightness?

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 09:29 AM
Since there was no name mentioned, how would he brightness?
Perhaps he just has poor memory. Neither you nor the project had any memorable effect on him. Not even a "I seem to recall...". Nothing. Zilch. As for me, I remember customers and programming projects I worked on twenty years ago.

rw

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 09:53 AM
Who said anything about a $300 M-282?
My mistake. Your 500 series amps are no longer produced.


Who mentioned anything about a comparison between my mod amps and a JC-1.
Ok. For some reason, I thought you were under the impression your modified amps were comparable to current production hi end amplifiers.


I don't believe you mentioned my name at all. So not much to remember is there? You did not mention much of anything, so there is NOTHING to remember.
I'll repeat. Apparently neither you nor the notion of Onkyo amps were memorable to him. Apparently I drew the wrong conclusion of how closely you know him since you said earlier "that is why I asked him to do the modification."

rw

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 10:17 AM
Perhaps he just has poor memory. Neither you nor the project had any memorable effect on him. Not even a "I seem to recall...". Nothing. Zilch. As for me, I remember customers and programming projects I worked on twenty years ago.

rw

Since he doesn't know who I am, and you did nothing to change that, then there is nothing to remember. So you made no mention of what the project was affiliated with, then there is nothing to remember, it is just another project to him.

Keep in mind, YOU are not HIM. No offense, but that is a fact.

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 10:22 AM
Since he doesn't know who I am...
Gotcha. You were an invoice to him. There are some guys like Frank Van Alstine who take particular pride in their ability to raise the performance level of modest gear. The "custom" Onkyos were utterly forgettable.

rw

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 10:26 AM
My mistake. Your 500 series amps are no longer produced.

Exactly!



Ok. For some reason, I thought you were under the impression your modified amps were comparable to current production hi end amplifiers.

Since I made no statement of such, how in the hell can you come to that conclusion?



I'll repeat. Apparently neither you nor the notion of Onkyo amps were memorable to him. Apparently I drew the wrong conclusion of how closely you know him since you said earlier "that is why I asked him to do the modification."

rw

You said this

There's a recording guy over at another site who says you worked some magic on his.

He has probably met hundreds of recording guys over his career, so you said exactly nothing that would identify me as the person! Recording guy is not my name last time I checked.

I am going to open a door for you. He is contracted to Parasound, so wouldn't it be a bad move on his part to publicly discuss a mod on a competitors product in a public forum?

If I were him, I wouldn't do it. It might not be a memory issue at all in this case.

This is a pure case of gotcha gone all wrong. When a person's motivation is not good or well intentioned, it usually shows.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
Gotcha. You were an invoice to him. There are some guys like Frank Van Alstine who take particular pride in their ability to raise the performance level of modest gear. The "custom" Onkyos were utterly forgettable.

rw

Still stuck in wrong......stop while you are behind.

Your condescending comments are not all that helpful either. A big fat nose stuck in the air only collects flies.

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 10:40 AM
He is contracted to Parasound, so wouldn't it be a bad move on his part to publicly discuss a mod on a competitors product in a public forum?
Do you think that Parasound prevents him from modifying discontinued old gear? Right!

rw

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 10:46 AM
Do you think that Parasound prevents him from modifying discontinued old gear? Right!

rw

Maybe it wasn't discontinued when he did it, did that ever occur to you? You really need to stop...you are barking up the wrong tree, in the wrong state, in the wrong country, and obviously on another planet. You do not seem to have a grasp on anything here.

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 10:56 AM
Maybe it wasn't discontinued when he did it, did that ever occur to you? .
You're a trip, Sir T. If you think mentioning his participation was soooo eveeel, I would like to point out that it was you who has talked about it for years. On a public forum!

rw

Sir Terrence the Terrible
02-03-2010, 11:01 AM
You're a trip, Sir T. If you think mentioning his participation was soooo eveeel, I would like to point out that it was you who has talked about it for years. On a public forum!

rw

You are even a bigger trip E-stat, I am not contracted out to a company to produce amps am I? That means I can talk about it, but perhaps he can't and won't. Since I have not been specific with anything, it does give him some cover, and that was intentional.

I am sure neither of us expected a nosy individual with obvious intentions was going to engage in this subject across two forums.

As for me, I am through with this stupidity. As Wooch stated, this is a wasted thread.

E-Stat
02-03-2010, 11:10 AM
am not contracted out to a company to produce amps am I? That means I can talk about it, be perhaps he can't and won't.
I'll leave all the speculation to you.

rw