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gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:41 AM
Why the Garrard Lab 80 (you ask)? The Lab 80 has been the turntable I was born into that it's almost synonymous to call it "Dad".

Background ...

I once had a Lab 80 that I ruined back in the days when I was only 5 yrs. old when "the automatic" peaked my curiousity (as my Dad would put me on a stool to watch it play and cycle). At that age, I was just amazed to see how the tonearm lifted by itself at the end of the record and return itself to its rest. One day when my Dad wasn't around, I got up on the stool and decided to spin the platter as fast as I could as I engaged the auto cycle. You could just imagine the arm going back and forth to and from the platter - to its rest - then back again at such speed (as the stylus hits the mat!), I was enjoying myself! Not for long though as my Dad returned home unexpectedly and caught me in the act! Boy could you see his disappointment! But what can he say, I was only 5. He tried to play a record and the auto function just came to a halt from then on. Oh well ... it was off to the attic.

Later on when I was in high school, I dusted off that Garrard and placed a Shure M447 on it. Still sounded good. But the auto malfunction just got into me that I started dismantling the table thinking that I might be able to fix it ... but no hope for me. I just didn't know how to put it all back together again. So this time its off to the the trash.

One thing I've observed though ... that this was really a quality automatic transcription turntable as they claimed it to be. From the heavy dynamically balanced platter to the craftsmanship of a well dynamically balanced armature of the motor! And even the arm itself with the aformosia wood, the feel of the controls, and just the whole unit itself was oozing with quality and craftsmanship.

I have never seen such quality ever displayed again ... not even on the later Zero 100 models (or even on the top of the line Z2000B) during the 70's. Those were just flimsy models with a lot of hype that didn't add up to performance. They just didn't have that quality feel at all as I had with the Lab 80. It was built like a tank.

The Lab 80 was engineered the best of its time.

Fast forward to today...

I just feel that I have to undo and pay my respects to the beloved Lab 80. Hardly could you find one these days that are fully functional and would require a total rebuild. But when I found this one for $50, I jumped on it ...

WOW! You would have thought that this Lab 80 came right out of a time capsule from 1964! This is totally immaculate and fully functional on all auto functions! It even came with the long changer spindle and I tried loading 8 records (for its maximum). It worked flawlessly! There's not even a hint of sluggishness to the auto cycle! I even haven't put a drop of sewing machine oil to it, and yet it's quiet and working oh so smoothly. Even the cue function ever so gently lands the stylus on the record. This is almost like New Old Stock condition! I am a very happy man knowing that my beloved Lab 80 is back to life once again, and that I didn't have to worry about rebuilding it. What a find!

Update ... I managed to take off the platter and lubed the bearing spindle and idler wheel post. Just a little maintenance after 45 years.

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:47 AM
Lab 80

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:48 AM
Lab 80

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:52 AM
Garrard Lab 80

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:54 AM
More tonearm features ...

JohnMichael
01-28-2010, 11:56 AM
Thanks for posting. Nice addition to the Analog Room.

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:56 AM
Tab controls and arm lock ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:58 AM
On Automatic mode ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 11:59 AM
The Spindle & Magnetic Auto Trip Mechanism ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:01 PM
The 5 lbs. heavy dynamically balanced platter ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:05 PM
The beautiful motor on a new suspension system isolated by 6 rubber grommets!

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:07 PM
Lab 80 comparator vis a vis ...

poppachubby
01-28-2010, 12:15 PM
ahhhhh, nice. I read about a Garrard model which had a swiveling headshell. As the arm moved inward, the cart would maintain a perfect angle. Nice innovation.

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:17 PM
Popular Science, July 1965 ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:23 PM
Lab 80 Ad ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:33 PM
Sept. '64 Ad ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:41 PM
A Report from United States Testing Corporation - April 1965 ...

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8301/lab80repportay9.jpg

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Just recently, an NOS Lab 80 sold for a record breaking price of $355 with 45 bids at the Bay!!!

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:52 PM
Actual Ebay ad ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 12:56 PM
Don't you just love that wooden arm!

gillsev
01-28-2010, 01:06 PM
Had to be creative to make my own dustcover from Hobby Lobby, since the original one is so hard to find ...

gillsev
01-28-2010, 01:09 PM
A creative owner and his Lab 80 MK II with SME Arm besides the original one! Nice plinth too!

gillsev
01-28-2010, 05:58 PM
90th Anniversary

poleonpom
04-09-2010, 10:55 PM
Hi,

I own a......Gararrd Lab 80.

This is my second one. I had one years ago and it broke and I never quite got over it, so now I have been able to find a replacement, the trouble is that the platter does not spin.

The motor runs correctly and the wheel engages properly but just rubs agains the platter to no effect - could it be that the rubber has no stick to it?

I'm also wondering whether the platter has a rubber insert where it meets the drive wheel? or is this just plain metal?

Thanks

basite
04-10-2010, 01:27 AM
the idler engages you say? and it really touches the platter?

could be that there is some oil spill on the platter or motor, or on the idler wheel, causing it to slip, or the rubber on the idler wheel is worn out, it becomes hard and loses grip then.

Can you spin the platter easily? could be something in the bearing too...
no brakes are engaged or so?

Good luck,
Bert.

basite
04-10-2010, 01:30 AM
ahhhhh, nice. I read about a Garrard model which had a swiveling headshell. As the arm moved inward, the cart would maintain a perfect angle. Nice innovation.


That's the Garrard 100S, SB, B, ... and the like, they had this very special "tangential" tonearm, it's prone to malfunctioning though due to the complex construction and the dirt, and some wearing out too over the ages, but if you manage to clean it up properly, it's a very good arm :)

More on that here:
thevintageknob: Garrard 100SB (http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAULT1/ZERO100SB/ZERO100SB.html)

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

GP49
06-27-2010, 12:21 PM
The Garrard Lab 80 is, to my eye, the best-looking record changer ever built. The Lab 80 Mk II had an improved set of operational features but Garrard "junked up" the look of the control panel. Still good-looking, just not as clean, chaste, and classic-looking.

The mechanical issue which probably disabled them the most was the design of the mechanism cam. The cam follower operated all manner of stuff and most of the time it worked fine. But if you spun the platter backwards while the mechanism was engaged, the cam follower would go into a dead end and break off. Garrard upgraded the design of the follower to make it more sturdy; it could then ride out of the "dead end" most of the time without damage. But that update didn't happen until the late production of the original Lab 80 model, into the Lab 80 Mk II. Although the new design could be ordered from Garrard as a replacement part, I figured a way to repair them without ordering a new follower.

I fixed a lot of Lab 80s over the years. Even got to be considered a "Lab 80 expert" as other stereo stores would send Lab 80s to me to fix! However after all that, I (sadly) don't have one of my own any more. I spin my records on a Garrard 301, though; so I am still a Garrardista!