Bose Sounddock 10

[gillsev]

Okay guys, I'm about to pull the trigger on this one for $600.00!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/bose-sounddock-10-weighs-in-with-599-of-ipod-amplification/

Nevermind the rude comments on that link. I wonder why some people hate Bose with a passion. I know they're overpriced, but so is the Led Zeppelin.

Flame on!

[blackraven]

I would buy this B&W ipod system instead for the same price!

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2466

[gillsev]

I would buy this B&W ipod system instead for the same price!

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2466

Looks too wild for my taste. Looks like it's gonna fly!

[poppachubby]

Bah, they're all over priced crap. So many better options...I'm surprised you like these things BR!!

[gillsev]

Bah, they're all over priced crap. So many better options...I'm surprised you like these things BR!!

If you have an Ipod, perhaps you'll understand why you need a dock.

[blackraven]

Pops, I don't like those things, but if I had to buy one it would be the B&W. In fact, I can't stand to listen too MP3 recordings. But your right, there are better options like buying a receiver that is IPOD compatible and a small pair of bookshelf speakers or using a computer with a good sound card and good computer speakers. It would cost less and sound better.

[poppachubby]

If you have an Ipod, perhaps you'll understand why you need a dock.

hey gill, not to be rude, but your fingers would fall off before you could type enough to make me "understand". Believe me , I understand.

OK BR I see your angle now, sorry man I had to call you on it. BTW, comp hasn't shut down but I'm looking locally here at video cards. I figure while I'm at it I'll get one with the ability to ouput to my TV. You do that?

[E-Stat]

I know they're overpriced, but so is the Led Zeppelin.
Since you already know that you can buy far better for the money, then there's no need for pointing that out. Bose understands that many folks buy upon emotion, not reason. And has made extraordinary amounts of money doing just that. :)

rw

[poppachubby]

Here you go, if it's not too late...http://www.emptek.com/cs100_tubespecial.php

[gillsev]

Here you go, if it's not too late...http://www.emptek.com/cs100_tubespecial.php

Not too late yet Papa. Thanks for the link. Good price too!
But I'm really looking for something compact (not separate components).

I already do have separate component system downstairs.

But my Ipod dock is just for my little nightstand upstairs.

[02audionoob]

I would strongly agree with buying the Bose. Bose makes absolutely superior audio equipment and just about everything that's truly top-notch is a little overpriced. It's clearly the best. Why would you want anything less?

[gillsev]

I would strongly agree with buying the Bose. Bose makes absolutely superior audio equipment and just about everything that's truly top-notch is a little overpriced. It's clearly the best. Why would you want anything less?

Finally, an honest guy after my taste!
Bose it is!

[JohnMichael]

I would strongly agree with buying the Bose. Bose makes absolutely superior audio equipment and just about everything that's truly top-notch is a little overpriced. It's clearly the best. Why would you want anything less?


ROTF at work LMAO.

[poppachubby]

Not too late yet Papa. Thanks for the link. Good price too!
But I'm really looking for something compact (not separate components).

I already do have separate component system downstairs.

But my Ipod dock is just for my little nightstand upstairs. Look at the size of the amp in relation to the speakers. It's all quite small, simply place it all on your nightstand, I suspect it will fit.

[frenchmon]

ROTF at work LMAO.

+1


frenchmon

[frenchmon]

I guess you find one once in a while.

frenchmon

[poppachubby]

You know I don't get it. At least the B&W I can see where the money is going, product design. The Bose is just a big chuck of square plastic with a single cheap driver. IMO, the EMP tubes look 10 times better. Exposed tubes is about as sexy as audio can get. Not to mention, tubes to defeat the harsh sound of digital. OK, that's all I will say about this, goodbye.

[frenchmon]

With Bose some of the money goes back into marketing so the can keep reeling them in... all the while lining their pockets.

frenchmon

[02audionoob]

The best marketing is a quality product.

[BallinWithNash]

Bose is like cheap wine, once you've had better you don't want it anymore.
MP3's terrible I would definitely do all your files in wav or flac format ... (i use wav's) then buy the M-Audio transit for like 90 bucks and some cheesy PC speakers ... it will sound better then that Bose ever will. ...
Just my opinion though

[JohnMichael]

Bose is like cheap wine, once you've had better you don't want it anymore.

Just my opinion though


Bose products come in a box just like my wine. Maybe I overshot buying Krell?

[gillsev]

I contacted Bose to inquire about the Sounddock 10 specs (i.e. Frequency Response/ Amplifier Power Output) but they won't tell me a thing! Heck if I'm spending $600, I think I should be well informed of its specs. Their only response was ...

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your inquiry.

Bose does not publish data on the acoustic properties of our products because we don't believe it is an adequate indication of performance. Such data is based on analyzing various types of devices, and measurements are made in a wide variety of conditions. At this time, we are not aware of a simple, clear-cut way to compare analytic responses. Measurement techniques and test setups also vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, which can make interpreting the results misleading.

Bose offers a 30-day, risk-free test of our products. We recommend trying them in your own listening environment to evaluate them for yourself.

For more information or to place an order, please contact one of our Customer Focused Representatives at 800-999-2673 ext. EM1. They are open Mon-Fri from 8:30 AM to 11:00 PM est. and Sat from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM. Our specialists will be happy to assist you.

Thank you for contacting Bose Corporation.
Amy LaViolette
Customer Support Team

[poppachubby]

Right, why do you think we are telling you they suck? We already know Bose don't share their specs.

[audio amateur]

If it's just for your night stand why on earth do you want to spend 600 bucks on it? Get 40 buck computer speaker or a cheap ipod dock & spend the rest on your other system or something else.

[gillsev]

Right, why do you think we are telling you they suck? We already know Bose don't share their specs.

I think it's either one or the other why they don't tell you ...

(1) They are ashamed of their specs, so they hide it.

OR

(2) Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard.

[gillsev]

If it's just for your night stand why on earth do you want to spend 600 bucks on it? Get 40 buck computer speaker or a cheap ipod dock & spend the rest on your other system or something else.

Because a $40 computer speaker or a cheap ipod dock won't give me the BASS I crave.

[poppachubby]

Because a $40 computer speaker or a cheap ipod dock won't give me the BASS I crave.

What makes you think the Bose will? They won't tell you the specs...

[Luvin Da Blues]

I think it's either one or the other why they don't tell you ...

(1) They are ashamed of their specs, so they hide it.

OR

(2) Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard.


Now that IS funny. :p

[poppachubby]

Now that IS funny. :p

Gills, your ******** is what's shocking here.

[audio amateur]

Somehow I doubt 3in paper drivers will shock anybody here :D

[02audionoob]

Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard.

And you guys thought I was funny.

[JohnMichael]

And you guys thought I was funny.



You were funny by intent others are funny by misinformation.

[poppachubby]

What's next, someone gonna come on here and tell us that Krell is good and that they don't explode randomly?!? HHAHHAHAHAHAHA, oh man, that's funny eh guys?

[JohnMichael]

What's next, someone gonna come on here and tell us that Krell is good and that they don't explode randomly?!? HHAHHAHAHAHAHA, oh man, that's funny eh guys?




Ah, no it is not.:ciappa:

[Mingus]

Hey, I almost bought a Bose docking station a few month back. It sound pretty good in the store. But I thought better of it and got something else.

[markw]

I contacted Bose to inquire about the Sounddock 10 specs (i.e. Frequency Response/ Amplifier Power Output) but they won't tell me a thing! Heck if I'm spending $600, I think I should be well informed of its specs. Their only response was ...

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your inquiry.

Bose does not publish data on the acoustic properties of our products because we don't believe it is an adequate indication of performance. Such data is based on analyzing various types of devices, and measurements are made in a wide variety of conditions. At this time, we are not aware of a simple, clear-cut way to compare analytic responses. Measurement techniques and test setups also vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, which can make interpreting the results misleading.

Bose offers a 30-day, risk-free test of our products. We recommend trying them in your own listening environment to evaluate them for yourself.

For more information or to place an order, please contact one of our Customer Focused Representatives at 800-999-2673 ext. EM1. They are open Mon-Fri from 8:30 AM to 11:00 PM est. and Sat from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM. Our specialists will be happy to assist you.

Thank you for contacting Bose Corporation.
Amy LaViolette
Customer Support TeamYou already know that they've triggered that acquisitionial lust deep within and you want it. Their marketing department has done it's homework.

[gillsev]

You already know that they've triggered that acquisitionial lust deep within and you want it. Their marketing department has done it's homework.

Well, I'd say they did an excellent job there!

30 Day Money Back Guarantee, what have I to lose??

I say let's do it!

[gillsev]

Hey, I almost bought a Bose docking station a few month back. It sound pretty good in the store. But I thought better of it and got something else.

Did peer pressure from the audiophilia community divert your decision?
I bet that's it, otherwise you would have had the Bose :)

[blackraven]

I detect a little SVI-ism here!

[poppachubby]

Did peer pressure from the audiophilia community divert your decision?
I bet that's it, otherwise you would have had the Bose :)

I find it funny that you have seperated the audiophilia community and Bose into two seperate entities. You have probably stumbled onto the first whiff of truth...SVI-ism indeed!!

[gillsev]

What is SVI-ism ?

[blackraven]

SVI-ism

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=32177

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=32191

[poppachubby]

Do you like dinosaurs gill?

[gillsev]

SpankingVanillaIce ... I get it :)

Hell no, I'm not into dinosaurs like SVI :)

I'm into Garrard ... my pride and joy (maybe you all laugh at me again).
See my attached file pic ... I don't know if you can see it.
(Is this the only way to upload pics on a thread in this forum?)

[poppachubby]

Is that a 301 or 401? I know a little bit. A little bit is all there is to know. They didn't make much. I have never heard one.

[02audionoob]

I'm into Garrard ... my pride and joy (maybe you all laugh at me again).
See my attached file pic ... I don't know if you can see it.

I thought you said you weren't into dinosaurs. :p


Is this the only way to upload pics on a thread in this forum?

I'm not sure about how others are doing it, but I'm posting mine on Flickr and linking them here. There's also a sharing Photo Gallery link at the top of the forum pages. You could link photos from there.

[gillsev]

I thought you said you weren't into dinosaurs. :p
.

Yeah, my pride and joy is a dinosaur to you guys :)

It's been playin' since 1964 !!!
Talk about longetivity! And it sounds better than some of my my CDs.

[02audionoob]

Actually, I would be glad to have one of those. The dinosaur wisecrack was just too easy to pass up.

[poppachubby]

Yeah, my pride and joy is a dinosaur to you guys :)

It's been playin' since 1964 !!!
Talk about longetivity! And it sounds better than some of my my CDs.

So is it a 301 or a 401?

[gillsev]

So is it a 301 or a 401?

It's a Lab 80 ... second only to the 301/ 401 respectively. This was the world's first Automatic Transcription turntable ...

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8301/lab80repportay9.jpg

[Mingus]

Did peer pressure from the audiophilia community divert your decision?
I bet that's it, otherwise you would have had the Bose :)

It wasn't peer pressure. I purchase the Griffin Amplifi because it does the job. I compare the two and they were pretty close in terms of bass and mid range. I have to admit the Bose Sounddock had more sparkle in the high end but the price is 2-3 times more.

[Hyfi]

Bah, they're all over priced crap. So many better options...I'm surprised you like these things BR!!

The B&W Zep is awesome. As I said in another post, I heard one in Harrods of London last year in between lots of other high end gear sold in that store and could not believe the sound was coming from a football.

I would by this or the little sister before I bought anything Bose!

[poppachubby]

The B&W Zep is awesome. As I said in another post, I heard one in Harrods of London last year in between lots of other high end gear sold in that store and could not believe the sound was coming from a football.

I would by this or the little sister before I bought anything Bose!

I understand your point HyFi, but since I don't live in an alternate universe where Ipod docks are my only choice, I won't be buying any of it.

[Geoffcin]

I woudn't discount the audio from a dock (or a good mp3 player for that matter). Yes your not going to get real stereo, or much extension on the bottom, but some of them sound not bad and can fit into places like the kitchen (where I have mine) that you would be hard pressed to get a real system into. However, $600 for one is just way outta bounds for my tastes. Gotta hand it to Bose, they manage to sell these things based on name, and not value. Kinda like buying Gucci....

[poppachubby]

Yes your not going to get real stereo, or much extension on the bottom.... However, $600 for one is just way outta bounds for my tastes. Gotta hand it to Bose, they manage to sell these things based on name, and not value. Kinda like buying Gucci....

Sorry Geoff, you didn't make much of a case for me to "not discount". They are WAY overpriced show pieces with badges that are supposed to make people think "ooooooo it's a Bose, wow!" Not for me....

[Geoffcin]

Well, if it was $125 then it would be worth a sniff.... (about what's it's really worth)

FWIW; I've had my eye on the Cambridge Soundworks model 12 for years. While not technically a doc, the thing really cranks as a portable sound system. To bad I'm not doing the tailgating thing like I used to or I would get it...

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=clr_multi&item=53CW0225AA000-8#reviews

[poppachubby]

Right, now that looks a little better from a super reputable company. I mean, with a little research people could discover all of these little gems.

Looks great but what sold it for me is that Flea endorses it. If it's good enough for Flea, it's good enough for me. Maybe the coolest bass player ever...

[Geoffcin]

Flea ain't lying! You would not believe the bass it can produce. Not just a melodic bass line either, hard pounding kick drum that whacks you in the chest. I've heard the thing and you just stand there dumbfounded.

[02audionoob]

Cambridge Soundworks also makes a nice clock radio with iPod compatibility.

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=aud_radio&item=k1765sbw

[blackraven]

How about these-

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KAIPAIR5

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AUENA5

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SLMC30

or this mini system http://home-audio.audioadvisor.com/search?w=nad+c715&x=0&y=0 Paired with these speakers http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATLS50

[Geoffcin]

Cambridge Soundworks also makes a nice clock radio with iPod compatibility.

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=aud_radio&item=k1765sbw

That's sweet, and I'm really diggin on the "SoundBlaster® Wireless for iTunes®" I just hope it would work with other programs too, as I can't stand Itombs and it NAZI based DRM.

I've got their HD820 clock radio in the bedroom, although it doesn't have the features and probably half the sound that this puppy does, it does pull in digital FM.

[gillsev]

I like this one, BR ...
Reasonable price too.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AUENA5

Doesn't come with grilles to protect the speaker though??

[02audionoob]

That's sweet, and I'm really diggin on the "SoundBlaster® Wireless for iTunes®" I just hope it would work with other programs too, as I can't stand Itombs and it NAZI based DRM.

That would indeed be an important question. I think this page for that product is indicating it can transmit any computer sounds...

http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=873&product=18739

[gillsev]

Hey Papa, I saw your Technics SL Q2!

BTW, I'm using the same 2M Red on my back up TT ...
Budget cartridge but sounds good. I'm still hoping to get the Black 2M someday, maybe if I won't get the Bose Sounddock 10, I would have just spent it on the Black 2M :)

http://www.ttweights.com/albums/album_image/6763858/4926188.htm

[audio amateur]

Seriously dude, don't get the Bose. We're not Bose bashers just because we like to be, and we like to steer people in the right direction. After all, that's what we do here.

[poppachubby]

Hey Papa, I saw your Technics SL Q2!

BTW, I'm using the same 2M Red on my back up TT ...
Budget cartridge but sounds good. I'm still hoping to get the Black 2M someday, maybe if I won't get the Bose Sounddock 10, I would have just spent it on the Black 2M :)

http://www.ttweights.com/albums/album_image/6763858/4926188.htm


Yes the Q2 is a nice deck. My HK is probably the best performer. I love the 2M. Although it's priced in the budget range I find it such a derogatory term for such a remarkable cart. For a direct drive it works wonders.

I'm not sure if you've read my thread but I am expecting a Golden Tube SE-40. This will be the segway to a turntable upgrade. I am hoping on a used Linn/SystemDek. I may go acrylic with a budget Pro-ject or Music Hall, new of course. However I may try the used VPI/Music Hall route and grab a MH 5 or 7. We'll see.

The 2M looks nice on your Garrard. Have you tried Nagaoka? I think it would be a nice fit for you.

[gillsev]

Yes the Q2 is a nice deck. My HK is probably the best performer. I love the 2M. Although it's priced in the budget range I find it such a derogatory term for such a remarkable cart. For a direct drive it works wonders.

I'm not sure if you've read my thread but I am expecting a Golden Tube SE-40. This will be the segway to a turntable upgrade. I am hoping on a used Linn/SystemDek. I may go acrylic with a budget Pro-ject or Music Hall, new of course. However I may try the used VPI/Music Hall route and grab a MH 5 or 7. We'll see.

The 2M looks nice on your Garrard. Have you tried Nagaoka? I think it would be a nice fit for you.

The Linn is one of my dream turntables, but so is the Thorens TD 124. For now my nostalgic TT is my Garrard, but correction Pops ... the Red 2M is on my back up TT (Thorens TD 320 MK II). My Garrard is sporting the Shure M91ED which is also quite comparable to the Red 2M league. Very warm neutral sound of the 70's. No I haven't tried Nagaoka yet although I've heard good reviews on it.

[gillsev]

Seriously dude, don't get the Bose. Were not Bose bashers just because we like to be, and we like to steer people in the right direction. After all, that's what we do here.

Appreciate your concern AA. Somehow I just find it more rewarding to get the most expensive stuff. Kinda like preferring a Rolex watch over a Casio ... although both tell time. You know what I mean :)

[JohnMichael]

Appreciate your concern AA. Somehow I just find it more rewarding to get the most expensive stuff. Kinda like preferring a Rolex watch over a Casio ... although both tell time. You know what I mean :)



If you want a good watch try a Patek Phillipe or a Blancpain. Rolex is a nice midrange swiss watch but not the most expensive.

[poppachubby]

Appreciate your concern AA. Somehow I just find it more rewarding to get the most expensive stuff. Kinda like preferring a Rolex watch over a Casio ... although both tell time. You know what I mean :)


However, in this analogy, Bose is the guy who is lurking in a dark alley and with a "pssst", calls you over to show you the Rolex's inside his trenchcoat.

[gillsev]

However, in this analogy, Bose is the guy who is lurking in a dark alley and with a "pssst", calls you over to show you the Rolex's inside his trenchcoat.


Fake Rolex? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[gillsev]

If you want a good watch try a Patek Phillipe or a Blancpain. Rolex is a nice midrange swiss watch but not the most expensive.

Ooooh, that's way beyond my budget JM. I've got to mortgage my house for them! :)

[JohnMichael]

The Linn is one of my dream turntables, but so is the Thorens TD 124. For now my nostalgic TT is my Garrard, but correction Pops ... the Red 2M is on my back up TT (Thorens TD 320 MK II). My Garrard is sporting the Shure M91ED which is also quite comparable to the Red 2M league. Very warm neutral sound of the 70's. No I haven't tried Nagaoka yet although I've heard good reviews on it.




I started audio life with a Kenwood marble base turntable and a Shure M91ED. I should try to find a NOS cartridge and listen to how it sounds today. Oh and then I stepped up to a Shure M95ED. Back in the days when a cartridge was added for a penny.

[audio amateur]

JM, please don't compare Rolex to Bose. But I get what you're saying, I suppose...
BTW, I live in watch city. I believe Patek-Philippe are made in Geneva. I should do a factory tour sometime. They are positively nuts about watches here. In the airport, the only ads you have are about banks & watches.

Check out this one by Romain Jerome, which features original parts of the Titanic:
http://www.besportier.com/archives/romain-jerome-titanic-dna-watch.jpg

[poppachubby]

Wow! I should show my wife that since she's watched that god damned movie 5000 times. Maybe owning the watch would chill her out. I'm online Tony...

[gillsev]

Check out this one by Romain Jerome, which features original parts of the Titanic:
http://www.besportier.com/archives/romain-jerome-titanic-dna-watch.jpg

Nice Titanic watch. Would love to have one of those but I heard haunting ghost stories from some owners of Titanic parts. Even from an authentic charcoal memento bought from a gift shop ... the hauntings are attached to them :)

[Hyfi]

I understand your point HyFi, but since I don't live in an alternate universe where Ipod docks are my only choice, I won't be buying any of it.

Wait, that was for the original poster, not you. I don't even have an MP3 player other than Windows Media Player which I rarely even listen to.

So funny that my Phone bill just got scammed by someone who used my number to sign up for a MP3 downloading account and downloaded files. That was definitely not me!

[poppachubby]

Wait, that was for the original poster, not you. I don't even have an MP3 player other than Windows Media Player which I rarely even listen to.

So funny that my Phone bill just got scammed by someone who used my number to sign up for a MP3 downloading account and downloaded files. That was definitely not me!

Oh, sorry HyFi. Yes, the irony wasn't lost on me after reading your story. If you need references to the fact that you hate MP3's, we could start a petition here at AR.

[gillsev]

JM, please don't compare Rolex to Bose. But I get what you're saying, I suppose...

From Bose to Rolex, they are all scam artists anyway targeting the rich for their high dollars, but their allure has earned them their high reputation in the industry.

If you do a google search for "Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry," you will see their homepage and then click on the "Swiss Made" link. (The term "Swiss Made" can only be used if the movement is a "Swiss Movement... BUT AND THIS IS A BIG BUT... ONLY 50% OF THE COMPONENTS MUST BE MANUFACTURED IN SWITZERLAND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CALL THE MOVEMENT "SWISS MADE.")
The term Swiss Made is a joke and these scam artists that try to convince you that your watch is Swiss Made when using components manufactured in other countries. They should be stopped and should be forced to start telling you the truth so that you know what you're buying. Liars like this are trying to trick you into spending thousands of dollars for movements that are no better than watches that don't use that term.

[Ajani]

From Bose to Rolex, they are all scam artists anyway targeting the rich for their high dollars, but their allure has earned them their high reputation in the industry.

So does that mean you wont be buying the Bose dock after all?

[gillsev]

So does that mean you wont be buying the Bose dock after all?

The allure of the Bose Sounddock 10 is irresistible just like a Rolex watch is. But the Bose is more affordable to me for now :)

[JohnMichael]

From Bose to Rolex, they are all scam artists anyway targeting the rich for their high dollars, but their allure has earned them their high reputation in the industry.

If you do a google search for "Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry," you will see their homepage and then click on the "Swiss Made" link. (The term "Swiss Made" can only be used if the movement is a "Swiss Movement... BUT AND THIS IS A BIG BUT... ONLY 50% OF THE COMPONENTS MUST BE MANUFACTURED IN SWITZERLAND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CALL THE MOVEMENT "SWISS MADE.")
The term Swiss Made is a joke and these scam artists that try to convince you that your watch is Swiss Made when using components manufactured in other countries. They should be stopped and should be forced to start telling you the truth so that you know what you're buying. Liars like this are trying to trick you into spending thousands of dollars for movements that are no better than watches that don't use that term.



Some of the top Swiss watch makers create the entire movement and might have the case made elsewhere but many are completely designed and made in Switzerland. Where is the Bose Sounddock manufactured?

[gillsev]

Where is the Bose Sounddock manufactured?

China

[02audionoob]

I can pick up a fine Swiss watch on Canal Street in New York for around $40.

[audio amateur]

Rolex has established a certain reputation which hasn't been the result of marketing only. Can't say it's also the case for Bose..

[audio amateur]

If you do a google search for "Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry," you will see their homepage and then click on the "Swiss Made" link. (The term "Swiss Made" can only be used if the movement is a "Swiss Movement... BUT AND THIS IS A BIG BUT... ONLY 50% OF THE COMPONENTS MUST BE MANUFACTURED IN SWITZERLAND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CALL THE MOVEMENT "SWISS MADE.")
I've just read about this and although it's not untrue, the 50% deal in is an imposed minimum and the law is being revised to a stricter level as we speak (and has been in the past).

[gillsev]

I can pick up a fine Swiss watch on Canal Street in New York for around $40.

EXACTLY! Here's one fine example of a Sub LV ...

[gillsev]

Rolex has established a certain reputation which hasn't been the result of marketing only. Can't say it's also the case for Bose..

It's all about marketing, AA. We live in a world of marketing commodities to attract customers to buy them. Bose may be going over the edge right now to do it, but is still part of the ploy. Rolex doesn't need to go over the edge because they have already earned their reputation with time. Give Bose 100 more years, and it would have established itself like Rolex!

[gillsev]

This is my dream watch. For those tired of the Rolex style.

Pic too small, is that an Audemar's Piguet?

[JohnMichael]

Here is my dream watch. I am tired of the Rolex style.

[JohnMichael]

Pic too small, is that an Audemar's Piguet?




Patek-Phillipe. I was searching google images for a larger file size.

[JohnMichael]

This is my day to day watch with a nice ETA 2824-2 Elabore movement.

[gillsev]

Here is my daily beater ...

[gillsev]

Happy Turkey Everyone!

[audio amateur]

What I am saying is Rolex makes a quality product, and this is also why it has a good reputation. Bose's reputation is solely built on marketing.
That Breitling must have cost a fortune!

JM, I much prefer the style of your current watch to the Patek you showed.

[JohnMichael]

What I am saying is Rolex makes a quality product, and this is also why it has a good reputation. Bose's reputation is solely built on marketing.
That Breitling must have cost a fortune!

JM, I much prefer the style of your current watch to the Patek you showed.



Thanks I like more of a classic style. Oh and the Patek is about $23,000 so it will not be on my wrist anytime soon or later for that matter.

[gillsev]

Well guys, I have decided and it's on its way. Apple Store One Day Event (Black Friday) gave me $30.00 off. Woohoo!!!

Here it is ...

http://store.apple.com/us/product/TU963?mco=MTU3MjMxMTc

More Reviews here ...

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/yamaha-pdx-30-portable-player-dock-for-iphone/

[02audionoob]

Were you ever really intending to buy the Bose? Or was this just one long SVI-ism? It doesn't bother me if it was...just asking.

[gillsev]

Were you ever really intending to buy the Bose? Or was this just one long SVI-ism? It doesn't bother me if it was...just asking.

I am a Bose freak, I have the 201's, 301's, and 901's on my system and I've never been disappointed. So when the Sounddock 10 debuted on Oct. '09, I have been eyeing it ever since but the steep price of $600 has been the reason of my procrastination. But if it was priced reasonably ... even up to $399 max, I would have gotten it in a heartbeat.

Now that I have saved myself $500 by getting the Yamaha PDX 30, I'm thinking of using that money towards an IMac 27" Duo Core ...

http://www.apple.com/imac/design.html

[02audionoob]

I am a Bose freak, I have the 201's, 301's, and 901's on my system and I've never been disappointed. So when the Sounddock 10 debuted on Oct. '09, I have been eyeing it ever since but the steep price of $600 has been the reason of my procrastination. But if it was priced reasonably ... even up to $399 max, I would have gotten it in a heartbeat.

It looks to me like the Bose product that competes with that Yamaha is down the line from the SoundDock 10 and actually is priced at $399. A 100-percent premium for a Bose as compared to a competing product by Yamaha would seem about normal to me.

[gillsev]

It looks to me like the Bose product that competes with that Yamaha is down the line from the SoundDock 10 and actually is priced at $399. A 100-percent premium for a Bose as compared to a competing product by Yamaha would seem about normal to me.

Yeah, I saw that Bose Sounddock II (Portable) for $399 but I wasn't into it really ... sounds generic. The Sounddock 10 was what I was after due to its internal 7" subwoofer, I knew this was something else, but the price was just too steep.

BTW, just got my IMac on the Black Friday sale yesterday ... $101 off on a 27" Duo Core desktop. Man, this thing is so cool! No Tower !!!

[gillsev]

Hey guys, any IMac savvy here? What kind of internet filter can I get for this? My Integrity Online that I use for my PC is incompatible for IMac. Help ... got to protect the kids from inappropriate websites :)

Thanks.

[gillsev]

Nevermind, found the answer. And it's free too. Already built in, duh!

http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/

[gillsev]

Bose is the Boss of Sound ...

http://www.innovationquotient.com/index.php?option=com_magazine&task=show_magazine_article&magazine_id=47&Itemid=28&cat_id=3

[audio amateur]

Please...

[gillsev]

C'mon AA, you've got preconceived ideas about the man and his product(s) and have remained biased just because he commands a premium. Give the guy a chance!

[audio amateur]

I've been put off Bose by so many things I've read, and it appears that any self-respecting audiophile would not touch a Bose product with a ten foot pole. Personally I have had very little exposure but I can understand where people are coming from when they say they hate Bose products.

This is a good place to start, so read this my friend:
http://nyet.org/bose/b.htm

Oh, and chances are, you'll be getting a whole bunch more comments from other members here

[Ajani]

C'mon AA, you've got preconceived ideas about the man and his product(s) and have remained biased just because he commands a premium. Give the guy a chance!

Many of us have tried Bose products and ruled them out for good reason...

I've heard the 901s many times as well as their HT Systems with the cutesy little cube speakers...

For the price they charge, their products are crap.... at about a third of their asking price, I'd consider buying them....

A pair of 901s competes pricewise with Revel Concerta F12s, Monitor Audio RX6. B&W 683, Magnepan MG12, etc... I'd take any of those speakers over the Bose 901s (and I hate the Magnepan MG12, so you can figure out how much I think of the 901)... Considering the high quality available in that price range, the 901 would have to offer far better performance than it does, for me to not regard it as a total ripoff....

[02audionoob]

I think at a third of the price I would not consider buying the 901's. The Wave radio would be worth consideration at a third. The earphones are probably worth half.

[Ajani]

I think at a third of the price I would not consider buying the 901's. The Wave radio would be worth consideration at a third. The earphones are probably worth half.

The Wave Radio is supposed to be decent, just overpriced... I wouldn't buy it at a reduced price simply because I have no use for it... I've seen some good reviews for their headphones though, so they maybe the only products in the Bose line that are not ridiculously overpriced... I may have to go try a pair this week, so I can have an informed opinion on them...

[frenchmon]

The Wave Radio is supposed to be decent, just overpriced... I wouldn't buy it at a reduced price simply because I have no use for it... I've seen some good reviews for their headphones though, so they maybe the only products in the Bose line that are not ridiculously overpriced... I may have to go try a pair this week, so I can have an informed opinion on them...

There is no way I'd ever even consider Bose seeing how they do business. You think they don't know they are playing on peoples ignorance? They know....they plotted the whole thing. That's not to say other don't do it...and if I suspect they are deliberately ripping people off I won't deal with them in the slightest.

frenchmon

[JohnMichael]

I used to be an audio salesman and for speakers we sold AR, Bose and JBL. We played the AR9's for the Bose rep and he heard that incredible bass. Then we played the 901's and he felt they had the same amount of bass. We all laughed but the others went back to selling Bose because of the higher sales commission. I was the AR and JBL salesman. When Amar did his direct reflected measurements for the 901's he was too far back in the hall. 11% direct and 89% reflected is not what most people hear in the front half of a concert hall.

[gillsev]

I've been put off Bose by so many things I've read, and it appears that any self-respecting audiophile would not touch a Bose product with a ten foot pole. Personally I have had very little exposure but I can understand where people are coming from when they say they hate Bose products.

This is a good place to start, so read this my friend:
http://nyet.org/bose/b.htm

Oh, and chances are, you'll be getting a whole bunch more comments from other members here

Thanks for that elaborate article my friend. I am not into satellite speakers and sub module style anyway, so count me out on that one. I still believe in the big old fashioned stereo speakers (in conjunction with a sub) when listening to music or movie for that matter (with center channel and rears of course for 5.1).

I may not be an audiophile engineer who knows all these technical jargon but just your average audiophile who's got two ears to hear. And I am not your average Joe either who doesn't know quality between a GPX and a Mark Levinson.

Some things are obvious and some things are obscure. Such as is the Bose 901's that I have as my main front speakers for more than a decade now. I've been using them before the days of 5.1. When 5.1 came, I integrated them with a Yamaha 12" Sub, and another Yamaha center channel (and Bose 201's for rears). And they all sounded good together! Why not all Bose you ask? Because not all Bose appeal to me. For example, their center channel speaker was designed so elongatedly slim for full range reproduction, the Yamaha to me looked more proportional for its function (and so it is with the Sub).

I don't believe in all Bose's products (I pick and choose). You still can't deny though that there are outstanding Bose products that have stood the test of time. The Legendary 901's has stood the test of time since the late 60's. Nobody has ever came up with that innovation on acoustic matrix enclosure with nine 4.5" full range drivers designed for direct/reflecting technology tailored by an active equalizer. This is just unconventional but works great!

[poppachubby]

To me, those speakers confuse the listening position and create more issues with on/off axis listening. It's already challenging as it is, particularily when dealing with 5.1.

[gillsev]

To me, those speakers confuse the listening position and create more issues with on/off axis listening. It's already challenging as it is, particularily when dealing with 5.1.

Why pops, do you always have to have a "sweet" spot when listening?

[poppachubby]

Every room has a sweet spot. Even a room full of the best Bose speakers has a sweet spot, or maybe a couple with Bose. It might please you to know that I have an old pair of 201's in my kitchen. They are for my wife, she listens to the radio mostly. I like them fine for that, she is moving around all the time in there. The 901's are a little much IMO.

[Ajani]

The Legendary 901's has stood the test of time since the late 60's. Nobody has ever came up with that innovation on acoustic matrix enclosure with nine 4.5" full range drivers designed for direct/reflecting technology tailored by an active equalizer. This is just unconventional but works great!

Interestingly enough, "Legendary" is the exact word I was going to use to describe the 901's... The issue is not with the unconventional design... Planars are unconventional designs but are still highly respected in Audiophile circles... Having no sweet spot or multiple sweetspots is actually a good idea (assuming your are not the typical 100% anti-social audiophile)... The problem is that the "innovation" of the 901's is in dire need of updating... Had Bose spent the last 40 years doing proper R&D, instead of just aggressive marketing, then the 901's would undoubtedly be an exceptional speaker... The Active EQ, should be upgraded for proper automatic room correction via an included microphone... The Drivers should be replaced with far higher quality material, than paper cones... possibly even the addition of a few, well placed tweeters to help with the high end and possibly a sub for the bass....

Essentially, the 901s have survived so long based more on marketing than the strength of the product.... It's a shame, since if the 901's had been properly updated, chances are they would have been held in the same regard as entry level Magnepan and Vandersteen speakers by many Audiophiles...

[gillsev]

Interestingly enough, "Legendary" is the exact word I was going to use to describe the 901's... The issue is not with the unconventional design... Planars are unconventional designs but are still highly respected in Audiophile circles... Having no sweet spot or multiple sweetspots is actually a good idea (assuming your are not the typical 100% anti-social audiophile)... The problem is that the "innovation" of the 901's is in dire need of updating... Had Bose spent the last 40 years doing proper R&D, instead of just aggressive marketing, then the 901's would undoubtedly be an exceptional speaker... The Active EQ, should be upgraded for proper automatic room correction via an included microphone... The Drivers should be replaced with far higher quality material, than paper cones... possibly even the addition of a few, well placed tweeters to help with the high end and possibly a sub for the bass....

Essentially, the 901s have survived so long based more on marketing than the strength of the product.... It's a shame, since if the 901's had been properly updated, chances are they would have been held in the same regard as entry level Magnepan and Vandersteen speakers by many Audiophiles...

No updates since the Series VI (early 90's) ...
I totally AGREE with your opinion!
The paper drivers should be updated with a higher quality material like the Klipsch.

[audio amateur]

I've just read Stereophile's review of the 901, and I love how they have a 'Manufacturer's comments' at the end:
'Sidebar 2: Manufacturer's Comments
Our technical analysis of the theory behind the 901 differs from Stereophile's in a number of respects. Since the final test of a speaker is in its sound with actual program material, we urge Stereophile readers to audition the Bose 901 and then judge for themselves whether Stereophile or the 15 other US and foreign reviews, which draw completely different conclusions, is correct.—Bose'

http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/425/index5.html

It's the first time I've seen 'manufacturers comments' in their speaker reviews.

[Luvin Da Blues]

"No highs, no lows, must be Bose."

Bose will sound better if you use Monster cables tho.

Oh, wait...

[poppachubby]

"No highs, no lows, must be Bose."

Bose will sound better if you use Monster cables tho.

Oh, wait...


Funny stuff LDB! Haven't seen you posting much, this is good proof of quality over quantity.


Since the final test of a speaker is in its sound with actual program material

This is funny. I interpret the translation to read as:

No consumer is smart enough to truly understand factors such as build, components or drivers. We at Bose prefer that our customers just keep their mouths shut and not ask questions. Studies have shown that our speakers sound better when questions are not audible.

[Invader3k]

The 901s would be OK as "party speakers"...like in a bar room or something where you're just trying to get sound all over the place and not concerned about serious listening. However, for the price they sell for, they'd probably be generally out of reach for such an application.

I've heard lots of bars used to have them hanging from the ceiling though...since you're only supposed to use them with their proprietary stands or hung from the ceiling. Bose even admits they're not a proper bookshelf speaker.

It's somewhat of a shame Bose has basically abandoned the stereo speaker market. They haven't updated any of their '01 speakers in literally many years. I suppose their Lifestyle and Acoustimass systems have a much higher profit margin.

[gillsev]

The 901s would be OK as "party speakers"...like in a bar room or something where you're just trying to get sound all over the place and not concerned about serious listening.
I've heard lots of bars used to have them hanging from the ceiling though...since you're only supposed to use them with their proprietary stands or hung from the ceiling.

That was exactly the setting when I first heard the 901's ... on a discotheque hanging at eye level. (Man, that was 1978!) I went close to it and I was so impressed since it reverberated with such brutal bass, it was like pounding my chest! And the sound so full and solid to the thumping beat of disco. I was only 14 at that time but I swore that day that I would have those 901's someday when I get my own place. Now it has come to pass :)

[Luvin Da Blues]

That was exactly the setting when I first heard the 901's ... on a discotheque hanging at eye level. (Man, that was 1978!) I went close to it and I was so impressed since it reverberated with such brutal bass, it was like pounding my chest! And the sound so full and solid to the thumping beat of disco. I was only 14 at that time but I swore that day that I would have those 901's someday when I get my own place. Now it has come to pass :)


:confused5: Let's see...you were 14 in 1978, that makes you what 45 years old? Your just getting your own place now? :ciappa:

Just ribbin' ya but I wouldn't make any purchase based on what I like at 14 yo. let alone 31 years ago. There really is so much better out there at those prices.

Peace out

LDB

[gillsev]

:confused5: Let's see...you were 14 in 1978, that makes you what 45 years old? Your just getting your own place now? :ciappa:

Just ribbin' ya but I wouldn't make any purchase based on what I like at 14 yo. let alone 31 years ago. There really is so much better out there at those prices.

Peace out

LDB

Got yer calculations right, my friend. I'm a 45 year OLD man. I got my place in '87, so figure that out ...

I know what you mean, but I was just telling my story what made me decide to get the 901's :)

[gillsev]

Well I just got it and ... BLAH !

For 15 watts/ channel (and 60 Hz for the low), I expected more oomph. But it was just sounding quite average ... maybe just a little better than my generic clock/ radio. The highs are really needing some boost too. I was afraid to max out the volume as distortion became more audible. But for only $169, you can't really complain for what you get.

Come join me as we'll hear it from my little nightstand. I think I'm just gonna send it back and just get the ULTIMATE ... none else but the BOSE Sounddock 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxvpc0W-QQ

[Ajani]

I think I'm just gonna send it back and just get the ULTIMATE

A B&W Zeppelin Mini???

[gillsev]

A B&W Zeppelin Mini???

Nah ... if I'm going for B&W, I'm going for the big Zeppelin but it's just too damn ugly!

Just look at it compared to the classy Bose Sounddock 10. Not a hint of class at all - being shaped like a football. C'mon guys! It has to be aesthetically appealing too!

http://www.ilounge.com/assets/images/reviews_bose/sounddock10/5.jpg

[JohnMichael]

Nah ... if I'm going for B&W, I'm going for the big Zeppelin but it's just too damn ugly!

Just look at it compared to the classy Bose Sounddock 10. Not a hint of class at all - being shaped like a football. C'mon guys! It has to be aesthetically appealing too!

http://www.ilounge.com/assets/images/reviews_bose/sounddock10/5.jpg





One man's class is another man's crass.

[gillsev]

One man's class is another man's crass.

I've got 30 days to find out if it's crass, then, and only then will I consider the Zeppelin.

Stay tuned for the conclusion of ...

[JohnMichael]

I've got 30 days to find out if it's crass, then, and only then will I consider the Zeppelin.

Stay tuned for the conclusion of ...



I was simply stating my opinion on style not sound. Buy what makes you happy.

After all I just bought a Monster Power product.

[Ajani]

Nah ... if I'm going for B&W, I'm going for the big Zeppelin but it's just too damn ugly!

Just look at it compared to the classy Bose Sounddock 10. Not a hint of class at all - being shaped like a football. C'mon guys! It has to be aesthetically appealing too!

http://www.ilounge.com/assets/images/reviews_bose/sounddock10/5.jpg

I think the Zeppelin is far sexier... The Bose looks crappy and boring to me... so it's really just a matter of preference

[Ajani]

After all I just bought a Monster Power product.

I think you should retire your supermoderator status as a result of that Audio Heresy... Now go sit in the corner of shame with your dunce cap on!!!!

[02audionoob]

Well I just got it and ... BLAH !

For 15 watts/ channel (and 60 Hz for the low), I expected more oomph. But it was just sounding quite average ... maybe just a little better than my generic clock/ radio. The highs are really needing some boost too. I was afraid to max out the volume as distortion became more audible. But for only $169, you can't really complain for what you get.

Come join me as we'll hear it from my little nightstand. I think I'm just gonna send it back and just get the ULTIMATE ... none else but the BOSE Sounddock 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxvpc0W-QQ

I'll just refer you to post #11. :22:

[JohnMichael]

I think you should retire your supermoderator status as a result of that Audio Heresy... Now go sit in corner of shame with your dunce cap on!!!!




Heresy, I think those were made by Klipsch. Oh and I have never looked good in hats.

[poppachubby]

Heresy, I think those were made by Klipsch. Oh and I have never looked good in hats.


I've got your back John, we've got our dignity, a conditioner and 32 miles of IC.

[gillsev]

I would strongly agree with buying the Bose. Bose makes absolutely superior audio equipment and just about everything that's truly top-notch is a little overpriced. It's clearly the best. Why would you want anything less?

Got it Noob! Looks like you're pretty serious after all :)

[02audionoob]

Got it Noob! Looks like you're pretty serious after all :)

I might have been having a little fun with it. :devil:

[gillsev]

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[poppachubby]

Wow, that's a really nice receipt you got there Gills!!

[Invader3k]

What was the point of posting that?

I am curious to hear your review of it, though, regardless.

[gillsev]

The point is the proof! Review will follow in 7 business days ...

[02audionoob]

The point is the proof! Review will follow in 7 business days ...

Yeah...I don't think we would have believed you if you told us you ordered it. :smilewinkgrin:

[gillsev]

Yeah...I don't think we would have believed you if you told us you ordered it. :smilewinkgrin:

That's right! Because who in their right mind would buy a Bose??
But I'm madly insane for Bose!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[blackraven]

Are you sure your not SVI's twin brother?

[gillsev]

Are you sure your not SVI's twin brother?

God I hope not!

[JohnMichael]

Speaking of SVI I think I will become SAL which means StalkingAdamLambert.

[02audionoob]

Speaking of SVI I think I will become SAL which means StalkingAdamLambert.

Are you a little keen on Adam Lambert? Looks like he might really turn into something, as have a few previous AI alumni.

[gillsev]

One of the best reviews yet ... read this while you're waiting for MY review ...

http://www.technofile.com/articles/bose_sounddock_intro.asp

[Luvin Da Blues]

:confused5: Twiddlers???????? :crazy:

[Invader3k]

Bose has been using "twiddler" type speakers in some of their products for years. Not really a new innovation.

[Luvin Da Blues]

Bose has been using "twiddler" type speakers in some of their products for years. Not really a new innovation.

Well, it sounds like something designed by "Uncle Ernie*".



* Keith Moon's role in "Tommy"

[gillsev]

:confused5: Twiddlers???????? :crazy:

TWEE ter + MID range ~ TWEE DLER = Twiddler :)

[gillsev]

Bose has been using "twiddler" type speakers in some of their products for years. Not really a new innovation.

It's just one of the milestone of Bose's innovation. Dr. Amar G. Bose is the scientist, innovator, and inventor in acoustic pioneering. Second only to Albert Einstein and Thomas Edison, he will be in the annals of Audiophilia's Golden History.

Just look at his milestone innovations ...

http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/about/milestones/index.jsp

[Luvin Da Blues]

It's just one of the milestone of Bose's innovation. Dr. Amar G. Bose is the scientist, innovator, and inventor in acoustic pioneering. Second only to Albert Einstein and Thomas Edison, he will be in the annals of Audiophilia's Golden History.

Just look at his milestone innovations ...

http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/about/milestones/index.jsp


Looks like self professed innovations to me. Einstein? Edison? :lol: (BTW, That would make him third)


HOOK.................................





LINE.......................................








SINKER.................................... :cornut:

[gillsev]

The problem with you guys is that your biased tunnel vision has blinded you all from all his glorious achievements and awards. Just because he is King of Marketing, it has totally closed your minds.

[poppachubby]

.... just want to say that when they release a twiddler from prison, people have the right to know his whereabouts. The neighbourhood of that twiddler's choice should be informed that he's moving in. Oh shoot, hang on....woops sorry, right a twiddler....my bad. Ya so a twiddler isn't a new innovation by any means. You know, infact....

[gillsev]

.... just want to say that when they release a twiddler from prison, people have the right to know his whereabouts. The neighbourhood of that twiddler's choice should be informed that he's moving in. Oh shoot, hang on....woops sorry, right a twiddler....my bad. Ya so a twiddler isn't a new innovation by any means. You know, infact....

You probly meant ... Twiddler On the Roof ? :)

[gillsev]

My review could be summed up in one word ...

WOW!!!

[Ajani]

My review could be summed up in one word ...

WOW!!!

I assume you have no plans to write reviews for Stereophile or The Absolute Sound...

[JohnMichael]

My review could be summed up in one word ...

WOW!!!




Or with all that upside down engineering the review could be summed up in one word......

!!!MOM

[02audionoob]

My review could be summed up in one word ...

WOW!!!

See? Now what'd I tell you?

[gillsev]

See? Now what'd I tell you?

Thanks Noob.

Therefore I can now deduce what I've stated in post # 25 that ...

Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard.

[Ajani]

Thanks Noob.

Therefore I can now deduce what I've stated in post # 25 that ...

Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard.

:out:

[recoveryone]

Whew!!! I just read through this quagmire of post and I never heard anyone ask the question if Gills had a 2channel or HT in his bedroom as many of us do. The thought of spending 600 and change on a nightstand radio (that is what it is) is a gamble in my view, I don't care who makes it. If you do have a system in your room it would have been a better choice to get the adapter cables to attached the Ipod to it or went with a Squeezebox/Sonos system. But as stated in earlier post you are a Bose fan and I'm sure your friends will be impress with it (by name only). From your own background and interest in this area, you should know that you are not going to achieve any strong bass from any nightstand system you buy. And you should look at getting a mid range system for your room that had a cable for your Ipod and remote to control it. $600 for a name, I do believe in paying for quality, but I know what to expect from it. I really feel your are going to be disappointed in its performance, but will convince yourself that its good due to the name on the box. ENJOY!

[audio amateur]

:out:
Thank you :)

[gillsev]

People will only believe what they want to believe.
Hence, I only used ONE word for my review.
Why waste my precious time for people who simply thinks you're an idiot for choosing Bose!!! I am very happy with it, and so be it ... for a happy idiot like me (if that's what you want to think).

Merry Christmas to all anyway!
Keep the Spirit ...

Gill

[recoveryone]

Hold on now Gill I never said your an Idiot, if you read my post correctly, I said no matter what brand $600 dollars for a nightstand radio is name brand status to me. And from your own words, "wanting deep bass", this type of setup is not going to produce such a sound. IMHO..... When its all said and done its you the one that has to be happy with it. And from your postings the Bose was the only thing that was going to do just that. So ENJOY.

[Invader3k]

gillsev, come on. If you are happy with your purchase, great. Maybe you could elaborate a little bit further on what you like about it though.

[gillsev]

Hold on now Gill I never said your an Idiot, if you read my post correctly, I said no matter what brand $600 dollars for a nightstand radio is name brand status to me. And from your own words, "wanting deep bass", this type of setup is not going to produce such a sound. IMHO..... When its all said and done its you the one that has to be happy with it. And from your postings the Bose was the only thing that was going to do just that. So ENJOY.

I wasn't referring to you at all, Recovery, just some and they know who they are.

[gillsev]

gillsev, come on. If you are happy with your purchase, great. Maybe you could elaborate a little bit further on what you like about it though.

I gave Yamaha a chance, and it just didn't do it for me. If it did, I would have gladly kept it and would have forgotten the Bose. I've also listened to the Klipsch iGroove SXT for about the same price range, but it still wasn't quite satisfactory.

I've also auditioned the Bose Sounddock II in stores before and it just didn't give the bass I craved for. The Bose Sounddock 10 to me, just hits the spot, it leaves all of them competitors in the dust. The bass I craved for is beyond its size with no musical distortion whatsoever even at maximum levels. You'd be surprised, this is bass you can feel with music that's room filling in clarity.

Anyway, that's my honest opinion for what it's worth. Take it or leave it.

[Ajani]

I wasn't referring to you at all, Recovery, just some and they know who they are.

Damnit, We do not know who we are!!!!

Ummm... Wait... ummm... yeah...

Anyway, as I'm sure I've stated before, I've heard many Bose products and while I regarded them as grossly overpriced, they did have one major advantage to me... the ability to sound much larger than they really are... There is a reason the 901 and Wave Radio gained popularity (other than just loads of advertising)...

However, your conclusion that Disclosure would shock the audiophilia community as it far exceeds the standard. is what I find absurd... There's nothing wrong with liking the soundock (even if you never bothered to audition the most respected direct competitor, the B&W Zepelin) but your conclusion is quite a stretch...

And considering how Bose loves to advertise, if their specs exceeded the standards, I would bet money that they would advertise the hell out of that point...

[gillsev]

$600 for a name, I do believe in paying for quality, but I know what to expect from it. I really feel your are going to be disappointed in its performance, but will convince yourself that its good due to the name on the box. ENJOY!

If it's ONLY the name on the box I am after, I could have gotten the Sounddock II and would have saved myself $300.

[Luvin Da Blues]

You do realize that you will never convince the members here, that have many more years of experience and a higher level of expertise with real sound systems, that Bose doesn't SUCK for the price!!!!!!

[gillsev]

You do realize that you will never convince the members here, that have many more years of experience and a higher level of expertise with real sound systems, that Bose doesn't SUCK for the price!!!!!!

I know ... I'm not as rich as them either.

[EYEdROP]

There is a dividing line between people who either love or hate Bose. Most average non audiophile people that have heard Bose say they sound very good. Most audiophiles with a taste for accuracy and purity say they sound terrible. The fact is Bose has tons of R&D in psychoacoustics and they know what the average person wants to hear. And most of the time, the average person wants a colored sound with pumped up bass, digital sound processing, and small form factor. This is exactly what bose does and they do it very well.

In my opinion, Bose speakers are a joy to listen to. But comparing them to audiophile gear is apples and oranges. Bose go for an intentionally altered sound that is "exiting". Audiophiles want no alterations whatsoever.

Its like comparing a Marlboro (bose) to a Padron fine cigar (audiophile). You could say Marlboro is overpriced for how terrible the tobacco is compared to your fancy cigar. But its two very different things that cannot be compared. Marlboro has tons of chemicals designed to trigger things in your brain and the taste is approved by so so many people. Padron is a fine cigar grown in Nicaragua grown in the finest soil and handrolled.

[Luvin Da Blues]

And most of the time, the average person wants a colored sound with pumped up bass, digital sound processing, and small form factor. This is exactly what bose does and they do it very well.


'Nuff said. :thumbsup:

[gillsev]

And most of the time, the average person wants a colored sound with pumped up bass, digital sound processing, and small form factor. This is exactly what bose does and they do it very well.

I agree 100%. I am that average "happy" person :)

[EYEdROP]

At the end of the day, the marlboro can be more satisfying indeed.

[Ajani]

There is a dividing line between people who either love or hate Bose. Most average non audiophile people that have heard Bose say they sound very good. Most audiophiles with a taste for accuracy and purity say they sound terrible. The fact is Bose has tons of R&D in psychoacoustics and they know what the average person wants to hear. And most of the time, the average person wants a colored sound with pumped up bass, digital sound processing, and small form factor. This is exactly what bose does and they do it very well.

In my opinion, Bose speakers are a joy to listen to. But comparing them to audiophile gear is apples and oranges. Bose go for an intentionally altered sound that is "exiting". Audiophiles want no alterations whatsoever.

I was going to make a few comments about your post, but frankly your points are close enough to the truth, that I'd really just be nitpicking...

Well Said!!!

[gillsev]

And so, this long thread has finally come to its close with the grand finalle of a happy owner and his Bose. Time for me to celebrate!

Wish all of you guys were here, as we're having a roasted Peking Duck :)

Gill

[02audionoob]

To BOSE!

http://blog.wineenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/champagne_toast.jpg

[Mingus]

I was with my brother-in -law at the mall this weekend and decided to give the Bose Sounddock 10 a listen. The sound is very good and bass is strong for a docking speaker. Very good sounding docking speaker but over-priced.

[manlystanley]

And so, this long thread has finally come to its close with the grand finalle of a happy owner and his Bose. Time for me to celebrate!

Wish all of you guys were here, as we're having a roasted Peking Duck :)

Gill

Gill, Don't let them take the bones away........ My father in law is a Chinese chef and until he retired he always gave us tons of duck bones...... make some serious "peking duck soup".....

Best Regards,
Stan

[gillsev]

Gill, Don't let them take the bones away........ My father in law is a Chinese chef and until he retired he always gave us tons of duck bones...... make some serious "peking duck soup".....

Best Regards,
Stan

Oh yeah?? I might try that then. They are so flavorful, I even eat the cartilage and soft bones. Thanks! :)

[Happy Camper]

http://www.amazon.com/Fatman-RED-i-Integrated-Speakers-iPod/dp/B001HS1JOA

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/19/shanlings-mc-3-ipod-dock-plays-hits-from-the-80s-sounds-so-cra/

http://tubeamplifierreviews.com/tube-amplifier-reviews/shanling-amp-reviews/shanling-stp-10-amp-and-ipod-dock-review/

I have the smaller Bose dock for the bedroom that I've used for about 8 years now. For audio bubblegum, they work fine. If you have some room, go tubes.

[gillsev]

http://www.amazon.com/Fatman-RED-i-Integrated-Speakers-iPod/dp/B001HS1JOA

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/19/shanlings-mc-3-ipod-dock-plays-hits-from-the-80s-sounds-so-cra/

http://tubeamplifierreviews.com/tube-amplifier-reviews/shanling-amp-reviews/shanling-stp-10-amp-and-ipod-dock-review/

I have the smaller Bose dock for the bedroom that I've used for about 8 years now. For audio bubblegum, they work fine. If you have some room, go tubes.

Exotic systems you got there. Very nice!
Yes if I had room, I would have preferred those. My main reason really why I chose the Bose was because for a lack of it (just for my little nightstand). I had to compromise for something smaller and compact (yet delivering the punch I craved). The Sounddock 10 was the right choice for it (though overpriced).

[gillsev]

There is only one minor problem with the Sounddock 10. No it's not the sound. It is about Web based apps on the Ipod itself (i.e. Pandora). I think the Sounddock was primarily designed to function for the Playlists on your Ipod (music that you yourself stored). There is no problem there operating it with the Bose's remote control and everything on the remote buttons functions as it should. As soon as you dock your Ipod, the default mode of the Sounddock when using the remote control operates the Playlists.

Now here is the problem ...

From the Playlist, when you want to go to Pandora ... you can't use the remote, but have to go directly on the Ipod itself for touchscreen functionality (no big deal). But that's not even the real problem yet ... the real problem is that once you are at Pandora, there is no volume output. It cannot be controlled either by remote or direct Ipod touchscreen (although I could see the volume meter rise when I try to increase it). I discovered that the only way for this to let it work is to take the Ipod off the dock (while at Pandora), press play on the Ipod, then redock it on the Sounddock. Then everything is normal. Volume output is restored and can be controlled either by remote or direct touch.

BUT ... BUT when you go back to the Playlists, then from there - back to Pandora, then the same problem occurs. You just have to redock it everytime you want to go to Pandora. (No redocking ritual needed if you just want to play your Playlists).

I just want to know if this is normal with the other Sounddock models, or other brands for that matter.

[gillsev]

I contacted Bose on this. Here is their response ...


"Yes we are aware of this. This is an issue with the Ipod itself, and how it works.
See below:

Undock and redock iPod to restore audio.
The iPod does not send any indication to the SoundDock 10 that audio is playing from a 3rd party application, so if the iPod’s music was paused prior to switching to the streaming source audio will not resume. Remove the iPod from the dock and redock to restore audio

Unfortunately, there is no other solution to this beyond what you already are doing to solve the issue if you want to actually DOCK your Ipod.

However, you can simply hook up the Ipod Touch 2nd gen to the AUX in jack on the back of the unit and that will solve the issue.....you can charge it on your own, at another time.

Thank you for contacting Bose Corporation.
Kevin Bradley
Product and Technical Support Team"


So there you go. Not a Bose defect. I'm happy, I'm keeping it :)

[gillsev]

Here's to 2010 ...
As we move on and say goodbye to the past,
Seems like only yesterday, but what a blast!
Gonna celebrate for what it has been,
Eating my heart out on that Royal Red Robin,
To say the least a mouthful overload,
It hits the spot, What a motherload!!!
Get home to watch the Apple fall, and then ...
Dance the night away on my Sounddock 10.

The End.

[gillsev]

Man I couldn't believe I spent $60 last night on that Red Robin! What? just for a burger, fish sandwich, and some chicken nuggets (for the kids)! I could have got me some cheap computer speakers for that price! Eating out nowadays are just astronomical!

But it's the New Year! And now my resolution is to lose weight. Talk about losing weight and Slim Fast just pulled off their shakes from the shelves due to a recall! Perfect timing if you say. Got to buy the powder this time and those meal bars.

40 lbs. to go! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[jrhymeammo]

Why were you charge with $51.10 on tax?

I'm not sure if it's just a personal preference, but why pay for the sales tax when you don't have to?

Congrats on your purchase. Obviously, it's not your main rig so anything "Dock" should do just fine.

[gillsev]

Why were you charge with $51.10 on tax?

I'm not sure if it's just a personal preference, but why pay for the sales tax when you don't have to?

Congrats on your purchase. Obviously, it's not your main rig so anything "Dock" should do just fine.

If I bought it from Crutchfield or J&R World, it would have been tax free. But since I bought it at Bose.com, I was charged tax. So why did I choose Bose.com??
Because they were the ones who only offered financing for 11 months @ $50/month (plus initial downpayment of $101.50).

I could have gone with the other guys and saved myself $51.10, but have to come up with the lump sum of $600, so I chose the latter

[gillsev]

Obviously, it's not your main rig so anything "Dock" should do just fine.

BTW, here is my main rig downstairs ...

[gillsev]

My pride and joy is at the upper right ... yeah, none other than the Lab 80!

[gillsev]

Popular Science - July 1965

[02audionoob]

Say, gillsev...who are you communicating with? That last 4 posts are all you. :confused5:

[gillsev]

Say, gillsev...who are you communicating with? That last 4 posts are all you. :confused5:

Myself ... I'm bored!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[gillsev]

Boy, you just gotta love that wooden arm!

[gillsev]

Lab 80

[gillsev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIkUiD8N81k

Sorry, that's the best video I can find ... just change the "kiss" to "fart", then that's the lyrics for this subject.

Anyway my story ...

Do you kiss your wife before you leave for work? Well, I do.
While still in bed half asleep while my alarm rings is the time I do it since she gets up after me an hour later. So I give her that bye bye kiss. But lately, it was sealed by a fart as I kissed her with a blast. And not just a blast, but a singing one too ... one with a tune from the butt. I don't know how it's done, just the art of farting I guess.

Anyway, she got so offended that she said it was becoming a pattern already. She said, "GET OUT, GET OUT!!!" "Next time you do that, you sleep in the couch!" Women! I tell you. They're too sensitive that they take it personal when it's not. I am just getting to be an old fart and I can't help my bodily functions anymore.

Next time I think I've got to "Butt-monize" with my Sounddock 10. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[audio amateur]

lol... nice guy talk goin' on there!

[poppachubby]

Man, you can tie any subject into Bose, perhaps you should work for them...

[Ajani]

Man, you can tie any subject into Bose, perhaps you should work for them...

Or maybe stop working for them :devil:

[Happy Camper]

Bose bloes.

[poppachubby]

Dude, why not post that stuff on it's own, in the analog room. Such a waste...

[gillsev]

Dude, why not post that stuff on it's own, in the analog room. Such a waste...

Because I've already talked about it in this thread initially, so it will continue here ...

[JohnMichael]

Because I've already talked about it in this thread initially, so it will continue here ...



Unless it is locked down. I am tired of the Bose prose.

[poppachubby]

Because I've already talked about it in this thread initially, so it will continue here ...

This is a Bose thread. Not to mention, there's 9 pages to search through. What would be interesting is if you compiled the Garrard stuff in it's own thread. There isn't a big analog community here, and we would appreciate it. Could make a great thread for anyone Googling the subject...

[usbmusic]

Love that ads:) Must be one of the bolt from Titanic :)

[gillsev]

This is a Bose thread. Not to mention, there's 9 pages to search through. What would be interesting is if you compiled the Garrard stuff in it's own thread. There isn't a big analog community here, and we would appreciate it. Could make a great thread for anyone Googling the subject...

Okay, I'll see what I can do ...

Be on the look out then on the Analog section, Coming Soon ...

"The Garrard Lab 80 Shrine"

(maybe as soon as JohnMichael locks up this thread)

[JohnMichael]

Okay, I'll see what I can do ...

Be on the look out then on the Analog section, Coming Soon ...

"The Garrard Lab 80 Shrine"

(maybe as soon as JohnMichael locks up this thread)





Depends on if I am in a pissy mood or not.:nonod:

[Hyfi]

You do realize that you will never convince the members here, that have many more years of experience and a higher level of expertise with real sound systems, that Bose doesn't SUCK for the price!!!!!!

Man for that kind of money, you can get this for $300
http://www.questforsound.com/amps/amps_teacCRH277iB.htm
http://www.teac.com/resources/gallery/cr-h227i-b/cr-h227i-b-1.jpg

and these for $300
http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=90822
http://www.onecall.com/ImageCache/Infinity_C205CH_400x400_s.jpg

[gillsev]

Man for that kind of money, you can get this for $300
http://www.questforsound.com/amps/amps_teacCRH277iB.htm
http://www.teac.com/resources/gallery/cr-h227i-b/cr-h227i-b-1.jpg

and these for $300
http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=90822
http://www.onecall.com/ImageCache/Infinity_C205CH_400x400_s.jpg

Yeah, I could have. But again, I need more room for that than my little nightstand could hold.

[Hyfi]

Yeah, I could have. But again, I need more room for that than my little nightstand could hold.

Bummer, this wouldn't take up much more room than a wave. I hope you enjoy what you got. My bedside radio is a 15 y/o Proton am/fm dual alarm clock radio that sounds.....like a decent clock radio.

[MntnMan62]

That EMP Tek hybrid tube/speaker combo looks awesome. Wish I had known about that before my wife went out and bought the damn Bose Sound Dock without telling me. It sounds like crap. Lots of mushy bass, no real high end tone. I wonder if there might be a smaller subwoofer that doesn't cost as much as the entire system that would go nicely with it. I'm tempted to replace my cheapo ipod dock (Teac I think - again bought by the wife as a surprise present) in my office with this. Any suggestions on a lower priced compact sub might get me to click the "buy one" button.

[TheHills44060]

Bose & Ipod's all in one thread.....*vomit*

I'd never be caught dead using either but i do hope the sounddock is everything you hoped it to be. At least you've got some music in that room now.

[pumpkin1]

Nevermind, found the answer. And it's free too. Already built in, duh! https://whatsappgb.download/

http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/

Bose understands that many folks buy upon emotion, not reason.

[riyasen]

Nevermind, found the answer. And it's free too. Already built in, duh! GB WhatsApp (https://gbplus.net/download-gbwhatsapp-apk/)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/

Thanks bro It worked.