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jrhymeammo
11-03-2009, 05:50 PM
http://reviews.audioreview.com/blog/monsters-miles-davis-tribute-in-ear-headphones/
This has to be one of the craziest thing in audio... It really makes me sick to the stomach.
JohnMichael
11-03-2009, 06:23 PM
Wrong so very wrong. Much the way I felt when I first read Michael Jackson owned much of the Beatles' catalog.
poppachubby
11-03-2009, 06:28 PM
No surprise here, there are no limits or sacred boundaries to what can be bastardized for capitalism. Anyone who knows anything about Miles Davis understands the irony here...
02audionoob
11-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Yikes. That's unfortunate.
Mr Peabody
11-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Any one know what the selling price is? It's just wrong. When did Monster start getting into headphones? It doesn't surprise me they are behind this product.
02audionoob
11-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Any one know what the selling price is? It's just wrong. When did Monster start getting into headphones? It doesn't surprise me they are behind this product.
I think they're $500...seriously.
harley .guy07
11-04-2009, 07:54 AM
thats just Hella crazy for a headphone like that. I like Miles Davis but damn a cheap headphone named after him is crazy. Its just one more reason for uneducated people to buy a product because of a name on the label.
Sir Terrence the Terrible
11-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Is anyone surprised of the fact that Monster did this? I am not. Monster is like Bose, more marketing than quality products. I do have to admit that their high end ultra fast HDMI cables are quite good, but overpriced to the hilt.
Auricauricle
11-04-2009, 09:42 AM
I kinda like the "Kind of Blue" cord...!
More convenient than the Bob Dylan model with the "Tangled Up in Blue" cord...
atomicAdam
11-04-2009, 03:19 PM
I kinda like the "Kind of Blue" cord...!
More convenient than the Bob Dylan model with the "Tangled Up in Blue" cord...
haha! That is funny.
And great to see actual audioreview news get posted on audioreview forums.
Thanks guys/gals.
Comments on the news page are welcome as well.
pixelthis
11-05-2009, 12:05 PM
http://reviews.audioreview.com/blog/monsters-miles-davis-tribute-in-ear-headphones/
This has to be one of the craziest thing in audio... It really makes me sick to the stomach.
Ten dead women in some crazies apartment (who should be in jail) makes me sick.
DAVIS BLEW a great horn, but while a jazz god, he wasnt THE god.
This is a business, and as long as they arent a piece of crap, a great way for the estate
to generate some cash flow. These are hard times.
Question, if monster wasnt the one in the deal would you be bothered so much?.:1:
Auricauricle
11-05-2009, 12:54 PM
'Tis a point, 'tis a point....Gotta admit: it's still pretty cheesy.
Geoffcin
11-05-2009, 01:53 PM
I wonder if it's the same 'phone they badge as a "Dr Dre" to the rapping masses? Or perhaps a "Lady GaGa"? Maamaamaamaw....
http://www.beatsbydre.com/products/ShowProducts.aspx
jrhymeammo
11-05-2009, 04:24 PM
Ten dead women in some crazies apartment (who should be in jail) makes me sick.
DAVIS BLEW a great horn, but while a jazz god, he wasnt THE god.
This is a business, and as long as they arent a piece of crap, a great way for the estate
to generate some cash flow. These are hard times.
Question, if monster wasnt the one in the deal would you be bothered so much?.:1:
I understand your point and how you just love to argue, but point taken.
I do think Herbie Hancock is a douchebag for promoting a Bose product.
It's an amazing product for what it does, but it offers less than acceptable SQ.
Do I hate Mr. Hancock for it? No, but I was more than shocked... I still LOVE his music.
Do you know the company called Marten Design?
I've never heard their speakers (have not heard M.D. headphones either), but based on components they use, I'm sure they'll never hear a complaint from me and perhaps few others.
As far as ten grils you had mentioned, it doesn't make me sick at all.
Why does it make you sick? Cuz they should be in Jail, instead?
Actually, don't answer that cuz I don't care to know.
Good point though, but I imagine sure they are just rebadged $150 plugs.
JRA
Geoffcin
11-05-2009, 04:34 PM
OK guys, I know you want to jest, but please no more about the latest mass murderer OK?
jrhymeammo
11-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Did something happen? I guess I'll check cnn.com
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 04:26 AM
Ten dead women in some crazies apartment (who should be in jail) makes me sick.
DAVIS BLEW a great horn, but while a jazz god, he wasnt THE god.
This is a business, and as long as they arent a piece of crap, a great way for the estate
to generate some cash flow. These are hard times.
Question, if monster wasnt the one in the deal would you be bothered so much?.:1:
That attitude is exactly why we now have Beethoven and Mozart's classics as milk ad's now. I hear what you're saying, but are we going to let these companies sell us back everything we love?!?
Some things are sacred, whether it's music, art or just an inspiring person. It should all be left to be just that, not satirized for commercial gain. \
I'm sure Mr. Davis' estate is fine and healthy without tarnishing his reputation for a quick buck. He would NEVER have agreed to something like this. I have read several books on him, have you?
The late great Mile Davis, May 26th 1926 - September 28th 1991
http://trcs.wikispaces.com/file/view/miles1.jpg/52894008
Geoffcin
11-06-2009, 05:00 AM
I duuno about that. Miles was a great artist, but what he would have done is just speculation. It's also speculation about how well his estate is doing. Perhaps they really needed the $$$? Who really knows.
In any case a branded headphone doesn't "tarnish" his reputation in my opinion. As a matter of fact I can see someone wearing these phones and get asked; Who was/is Miles Davis We're nearly 20 years after his death now and a whole generation has not been exposed to his music.
02audionoob
11-06-2009, 05:18 AM
What would you think of a nice pair of Beethoven headphones by Denon?
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 05:35 AM
I duuno about that. Miles was a great artist, but what he would have done is just speculation. It's also speculation about how well his estate is doing. Perhaps they really needed the $$$? Who really knows.
In any case a branded headphone doesn't "tarnish" his reputation in my opinion. As a matter of fact I can see someone wearing these phones and get asked; Who was/is Miles Davis We're nearly 20 years after his death now and a whole generation has not been exposed to his music.
Yes, opinions Geoff. If his estate is doing that poorly then I would think it has more to do with fiscal responsibility than income. In which case, they will need several more "deals" to stay afloat I'm sure.
You've made a good point about recognition, although I don't know how much anyone would care when it's discovered that way. As far as young people finding Miles, anyone who loves music and seeks out the best, will be lead to Miles Davis.
I have to say, short of his years spent as a drug addict, I can't see him jumping on any band wagon for a fast buck. That's just my impression.
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 05:38 AM
What would you think of a nice pair of Beethoven headphones by Denon?
Sure, as long as the picture captures him with a psychotic look in his eye, hair flying all over as he attempts to direct the players. Cool!!
bfalls
11-06-2009, 06:00 AM
Ten dead women in some crazies apartment (who should be in jail) makes me sick.
DAVIS BLEW a great horn, but while a jazz god, he wasnt THE god.
This is a business, and as long as they arent a piece of crap, a great way for the estate
to generate some cash flow. These are hard times.
Question, if monster wasnt the one in the deal would you be bothered so much?.:1:
You should buy a pair. They should go nicely next to your Harley Davidson rack system. Times are not THAT tough.
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 06:39 AM
You should buy a pair. They should go nicely next to your Harley Davidson rack system. Times are not THAT tough.
Oh man...thanks for the laugh.
Geoffcin
11-06-2009, 06:40 AM
Yes, opinions Geoff. If his estate is doing that poorly then I would think it has more to do with fiscal responsibility than income. In which case, they will need several more "deals" to stay afloat I'm sure.
You've made a good point about recognition, although I don't know how much anyone would care when it's discovered that way. As far as young people finding Miles, anyone who loves music and seeks out the best, will be lead to Miles Davis.
I have to say, short of his years spent as a drug addict, I can't see him jumping on any band wagon for a fast buck. That's just my impression.
I think your really making leaps now. There's no way to know what the estate's finances are, or if they are frugal or not with it. Perhaps they are planning a world-touring retrospective of Miles, and they need to generate the cash to produce it? Perhaps the income from his residuals is so little that without doing this they would forced to sell the entire library of his works outright? You simply cannot know what went into this decision.
In any case, this DOESN'T look like a "fast buck" deal. The limited edition nature of this offering means that the "bucks" are going to be few. Also the buds look to be a pretty seriously GOOD product. I'm sure Miles wouldn't mind his name associated with top quality gear? Does Mark Levinson, or Conrad Johnson?
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 06:49 AM
OK, ok, I don't want to argue here. I think the virtue of "few" lends itself to "fast". NO?
You are correct, who knows about his estate really. I certainly don't. I am making assumptions as did the post that prompted me to reply in the first place.
HOWEVER, Miles Davis' shrugged off alot of corporate "deals" and such through his career. Would he care about this one? We will need a spiritual psychic's assistance to really know. What I am saying, is based on everything I have read about him, including his own memoir, I am left to believe that he frowned on stuff like this.
What does Miles Davis have to do with any audio equipment? Nothing. This is all I am really trying to say. Bottom line, they are using his name and image to help sell a product.
Peace and love, Chubbs
Geoffcin
11-06-2009, 07:05 AM
OK, ok, I don't want to argue here. I think the virtue of "few" lends itself to "fast". NO?
What does Miles Davis have to do with any audio equipment? Nothing. This is all I am really trying to say. Bottom line, they are using his name and image to help sell a product.
Peace and love, Chubbs
We certainly aren't going to change anything by our arguing about the "morality" of branding these buds with Miles' name. They are out there for sale and that's not going to change.
However, I want you to consider, even if you hate the idea of "selling his name" that Miles' name is now going to be seen/read/talked about by a lot more people than before. Even if only one of them gets newly exposed to his music isn't that a GOOD thing?
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 07:14 AM
We certainly aren't going to change anything by our arguing about the "morality" of branding these buds with Miles' name. They are out there for sale and that's not going to change.
However, I want you to consider, even if you hate the idea of "selling his name" that Miles' name is now going to be seen/read/talked about by a lot more people than before. Even if only one of them gets newly exposed to his music isn't that a GOOD thing?
Take the blathering you and I are doing right now. Do you suppose even you or I are going to dust off some vinyl, feeling inspired? I don't.
I also don't think that this will lead to alot of people discovering his music. However, of course it's a good thing!! Should someone find his music through this product, it would probably be of more importance than the product itself.
I will give you this, if his name and likeness appeared on the brand of trumpet he used, I could maybe dig it. I just think that the buds are no different than a box of cereal, pair of jeans, etc.
I think the thing that bothers me the most, is that he's dead Geoff. It wasn't his decision, so to me it feels exploitative, regardless of the decisions of his estate trustees.
We will agree to disagree my good man, although I do feel your points fully.
poppachubby
11-06-2009, 07:16 AM
Mile Davis Toasty-O's "The breakfast cereal with the extra crunch, watch out kids!"
Hahahaha, stupid afterthought....
pixelthis
11-06-2009, 11:14 AM
That attitude is exactly why we now have Beethoven and Mozart's classics as milk ad's now. I hear what you're saying, but are we going to let these companies sell us back everything we love?!?
Some things are sacred, whether it's music, art or just an inspiring person. It should all be left to be just that, not satirized for commercial gain. \
I'm sure Mr. Davis' estate is fine and healthy without tarnishing his reputation for a quick buck. He would NEVER have agreed to something like this. I have read several books on him, have you?
The late great Mile Davis, May 26th 1926 - September 28th 1991
http://trcs.wikispaces.com/file/view/miles1.jpg/52894008
Yeah, some things are sacred, and Miles Davis aint it, no matter if "kinda blue"is
one of, if not the best Jazz album ever(the SACD is my reference).
After the third time I heard one of my favorite songs on a car commercial I got over it.
As for the ten dead girls, which were found recently in some sickos apartment, just
making a reference as what should really make you sick, just saying, keep things in perspective.
AND yeah, these things are a rip-off, so is a lot of stuff we buy.
But if MR Hancock and the DAVIS estate can make a few bucks, well considering
the joy I have gotten from both I won't brgrudge them their pieces of silver.
Could'da come up with something better, I guess in the age of portable devices
in-ears tested better.:1:
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