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Smokey
10-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Was wondering if anybody has bought cigarettes online?

With price of cigarettes almost doubling in last couple of months, I see the prices on Internet is almost half of what is priced locally. I use to pay $28 for a carlton of cigarettes (Eve Ultralight 120s) back in March, and now pay $48 locally.

But found the same cigarette brand online for about $30 which is a big saving. So any trusted web sites.

Thanks.

GMichael
10-16-2009, 05:18 AM
I thought you quit.

ForeverAutumn
10-16-2009, 05:41 AM
Now I understand your moniker! :)

Is it legal to sell cigarettes on-line? What about age restrictions? How do they know that the person buying is old enough to legally purchase cigarettes?

I can't help you with your question...I'm just boggled that you can purchase ciggies on-line.

3LB
10-16-2009, 07:01 AM
no stank you

Feanor
10-16-2009, 07:10 AM
Was wondering if anybody has bought cigarettes online?

With price of cigarettes almost doubling in last couple of months, I see the prices on Internet is almost half of what is priced locally. I use to pay $28 for a carlton of cigarettes (Eve Ultralight 120s) back in March, and now pay $48 locally.

But found the same cigarette brand online for about $30 which is a big saving. So any trusted web sites.

Thanks.

Need it be said?

This is your cue to quit. :devil:

3LB
10-16-2009, 10:33 AM
Need it be said?

This is your cue to quit. :devil:

he can't quit - smokers are funding national healthcare

:smilewinkgrin:

Rich-n-Texas
10-17-2009, 08:11 AM
Put out that cigarrette Festus! :incazzato:

Drink more BEER!!!

Smokey
10-17-2009, 12:49 PM
I posted to get some advise on getting cheaper ciggarets, not quiting :ciappa:

Tried quiting, but it is really hard-if not impossible. But agree that it is a nasty and expensive habit.


Is it legal to sell cigarettes on-line? What about age restrictions? How do they know that the person buying is old enough to legally purchase cigarettes?

Don't know answer to those questions. Hence this thread.

Rich-n-Texas
10-18-2009, 06:37 AM
Yeah, and you posted about "Why not universal healthcare?", and look what it got you. :nonod:

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to transport smokes over state lines, at least it used to be so it's not likely that even if you can buy them online, that you won't be paying reciprocal taxes.

My advise would be to just quit smoking, and I'll bet; knowing what I know about the membership here, 1,000 people will say the same thing no matter what Smokey. Stupid habit I used to practice until I quit on a National Smoke Out day, cold turkey, about 12 years ago.

ForeverAutumn
10-18-2009, 07:09 AM
Stupid habit I used to practice until I quit on a National Smoke Out day, cold turkey, about 12 years ago.

Good for you Rich! It's been 18 years for me. I also quit cold turkey. It's the only way IMO. To this day, it's the hardest thing that I've ever done...and the smartest. A friend of mine recently died from a heart attack at age 50. He'd been a heavy smoker for 30 years.

Smokey knows the risks.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
10-18-2009, 07:05 PM
I posted to get some advise on getting cheaper ciggarets, not quiting :ciappa:

Tried quiting, but it is really hard-if not impossible. But agree that it is a nasty and expensive habit.



Don't know answer to those questions. Hence this thread.

You mean we cannot lecture you? Damn, I wanted to lecture......

If they cannot verify your age, I think it is illegal. Though I am not sure you would be prosecuted, but the business on the other side, not so sure.

GMichael
10-19-2009, 05:33 AM
Good for you Rich! It's been 18 years for me. I also quit cold turkey. It's the only way IMO. To this day, it's the hardest thing that I've ever done...and the smartest. A friend of mine recently died from a heart attack at age 50. He'd been a heavy smoker for 30 years.

Smokey knows the risks.

I quit smoking cold turkey too. I could never keep it lit, and it smelled foul.

My last cig was March 31st at 11:55 PM 1992.

The plan was to quit on April fools day. Smoked my butt off up until that night. Put the last one out because I was sick of them by then. Tossed the rest of the pack away after crushing them.

Sorry Smokey. This is all the help I can offer. Smokers may be paying for today's healthcare, but they are also the reason it costs so much. More people die from smoking related causes than anything else.

Live free of smoke, die much later. The world will miss you soon enough. Don't rush it.

ForeverAutumn
10-19-2009, 07:12 AM
If they cannot verify your age, I think it is illegal. Though I am not sure you would be prosecuted, but the business on the other side, not so sure.

In Ontario, it is illegal to sell cigarettes to anyone under age 18 but not illegal to buy them.

The cops actually set up sting operations where they send minors into stores to buy cigarettes and then charge the store owners who sell them to the kids. They can do this legally since the minor isn't breaking any laws.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
10-19-2009, 10:04 AM
In Ontario, it is illegal to sell cigarettes to anyone under age 18 but not illegal to buy them.

The cops actually set up sting operations where they send minors into stores to buy cigarettes and then charge the store owners who sell them to the kids. They can do this legally since the minor isn't breaking any laws.

We have the same policy here. That is why I say they may get the business, but leave the Smokester alone.

I watched one of these stings take place right in front of my eyes. Maybe growing up in NYC help me see things that others could not. The sting was so obvious that I did not know why the guy who got caught didn't see it coming.

GMichael
10-19-2009, 10:38 AM
We have the same policy here. That is why I say they may get the business, but leave the Smokester alone.

I watched one of these stings take place right in front of my eyes. Maybe growing up in NYC help me see things that others could not. The sting was so obvious that I did not know why the guy who got caught didn't see it coming.

Was it a kid doing the selling? I've seen that. I know a girl who was younger than the guy buying them who got busted for selling.

ForeverAutumn
10-19-2009, 10:54 AM
Was it a kid doing the selling? I've seen that. I know a girl who was younger than the guy buying them who got busted for selling.

Kids should be asking for ID if they aren't sure how to judge age. I was ID'd for alcohol at a concert this summer by a kid young enough to be my own son. When I laughed at him, he shrugged and said, "sorry, my job's on the line, I ID everyone".


Here's a real life situation that happened to a friend's cousin who owns a convenience store....

Kid walked into the store to buy cigarettes. Adult owner asks for ID. Kid gives her fake ID saying she's 18. Owner sells ciggies. Owner gets busted for selling ciggies to a minor.

This is true. The owner filed a case against the police, took it to court and won, because the kid showed fake ID. But it took a year and a lot of money in lawyers fees to get the charges dropped. :nonod:

GMichael
10-19-2009, 11:01 AM
Kids should be asking for ID if they aren't sure how to judge age. I was ID'd for alcohol at a concert this summer by a kid young enough to be my own son. When I laughed at him, he shrugged and said, "sorry, my job's on the line, I ID everyone".


Here's a real life situation that happened to a friend's cousin who owns a convenience store....

Kid walked into the store to buy cigarettes. Adult owner asks for ID. Kid gives her fake ID saying she's 18. Owner sells ciggies. Owner gets busted for selling ciggies to a minor.

This is true. The owner filed a case against the police, took it to court and won, because the kid showed fake ID. But it took a year and a lot of money in lawyers fees to get the charges dropped. :nonod:

Guess there's too much money in selling them for store owners to decide to just not.

ForeverAutumn
10-19-2009, 11:42 AM
Guess there's too much money in selling them for store owners to decide to just not.

She says that 80% of her customers come in to buy cigarettes. I was shocked at that number because I didn't think that many people still smoked!

With those kind of numbers, losing your license to sell cigarettes, would likely ruin your business. If people aren't coming to buy cigarettes, they're probably not coming in at all.

GMichael
10-19-2009, 11:52 AM
She says that 80% of her customers come in to buy cigarettes. I was shocked at that number because I didn't think that many people still smoked!

With those kind of numbers, losing your license to sell cigarettes, would likely ruin your business. If people aren't coming to buy cigarettes, they're probably not coming in at all.

Cigs and lotto tickets must make up about 99% of their day.

ForeverAutumn
10-19-2009, 12:13 PM
Probably.

Of course, none of this helps Smokey. :)

GMichael
10-19-2009, 12:21 PM
Sorry Smokey.

jrhymeammo
10-19-2009, 05:07 PM
Good for you Rich! It's been 18 years for me.

So....... how old were you when you started smoking and how long did you smoke?:idea:

ForeverAutumn
10-19-2009, 05:19 PM
So....... how old were you when you started smoking and how long did you smoke?:idea:

I was two and I smoked for two years. :hand:


Seriously, I started when I was 12 and quit when I was 25. I have a 13-yr-old niece and it totally boggles my mind to think that I was smoking at her age. Thank goodness she has a lot more sense than her old aunt.

jrhymeammo
10-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Smokey,

Don't even listen to them cuz are all haters. Smoke all you want, but just don't smoke around me when I'm trying to quit.
If you ever feel like quitting start a thread about it (I'm think I've started a couple....), but that's not what this thread is about.... or is it? Just a subtle cry for help? Just kidding.

I've purchased tobaccom online about 8 years ago, soon after the distributor stopped importing a certain brand. The Three Castle!!! Remember this?

http://www.davenapier.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Images/s3castles.jpg

I bought them from an online store-front from UK, and think I ended up paying twice as much with S&H.

If the cost is an issue, then try to smoke less. Here is what I've started about a month ago. On my 25 minute trafficless commute, I've always smoked 3 cigarettes on my way to work. Now, I only smoke one. I just wait until I drive past a certain landmark. For my case, I try to wait until I pass the water-tower on exit 126. Next week, I'm going to (try to) stop smoking in a car when I travel for less than 1 hour.

Trust me man, it's more rewarding if you cut down and wait longer between smokes.

JRA

jrhymeammo
10-19-2009, 05:39 PM
I was two and I smoked for two years. :hand:


Seriously, I started when I was 12 and quit when I was 25. I have a 13-yr-old niece and it totally boggles my mind to think that I was smoking at her age. Thank goodness she has a lot more sense than her old aunt.

Hey 'sticks. Is she telling to truth or should I add at least 5 years to the claimed age? JK.
I really hate the smell I cannot detect as a smoker.

JRA

Smokey
10-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Thanks guys for explaining the legality of buying cig. on line, and advice on quitting. I admire those that quit smoking as it does takes alot of will power. Especially for those that started in an earlier stage like FA did when she was 12 years old.

It was mentioned that smokers pay for national healthcare, and that is pretty much true, especially with recent price hike of $2 a pack. If we assume that 50 million smokes, on a daily base, there is $100 million revenue just from recent price increase. Which add up to about $35 billion a year.



If the cost is an issue, then try to smoke less. Here is what I've started about a month ago. On my 25 minute trafficless commute, I've always smoked 3 cigarettes on my way to work. Now, I only smoke one. I just wait until I drive past a certain landmark. For my case, I try to wait until I pass the water-tower on exit 126. Next week, I'm going to (try to) stop smoking in a car when I travel for less than 1 hour.

Trust me man, it's more rewarding if you cut down and wait longer between smokes.

You just exactly describe my morning commute habit. In the morning, the craving is at highest since have to get mentally ready for the day. And your solution is probably the best by trying to cut back on smoking from three cig to only one. It is doable.

3LB
10-20-2009, 07:23 AM
It was mentioned that smokers pay for national healthcare, and that is pretty much true, especially with recent price hike of $2 a pack. If we assume that 50 million smokes, on a daily base, there is $100 million revenue just from recent price increase. Which add up to about $35 billion a year.
That's why we can't outlaw smoking or have you guys quit. If the smokers started quitting, they'd go after alcohol next - I'd hate that. This why I don't understand why the gov't doesn't just go ahead and legalize recreational drugs...all of them. Think of the tax revenue it would generate. First the gov't could lower the price of the drugs so that a larger part of the population would indulge in them, then when everybody was hooked, the gov't could then raise the taxes on those drugs as much as they want; we've seen that once a smoker is hooked, they'll pay anything for their smokes, no matter how much they go up in price. Just leave alcohol out of the equation though.

Feanor
10-20-2009, 08:07 AM
That's why we can't outlaw smoking or have you guys quit. If the smokers started quitting, they'd go after alcohol next - I'd hate that. This why I don't understand why the gov't doesn't just go ahead and legalize recreational drugs...all of them. Think of the tax revenue it would generate. First the gov't could lower the price of the drugs so that a larger part of the population would indulge in them, then when everybody was hooked, the gov't could then raise the taxes on those drugs as much as they want; we've seen that once a smoker is hooked, they'll pay anything for their smokes, no matter how much they go up in price. Just leave alcohol out of the equation though.

I don't know what part of your comments are tongue-in-cheek and what part not. But I can say sincerely that I believe virtually all drugs should be legalized and taxed -- same as tobacco and booz.

Of course I don't condone the use of any of these things, but the are a 100,000,000+ a$$holes out there who can't get off them. So, rather than give the money to drug cartels and street criminals -- and law enforcement agencies -- governments should collect and turn it to (relatively) good use.

GMichael
10-20-2009, 08:22 AM
I don't know what part of your comments are tongue-in-cheek and what part not. But I can say sincerely that I believe virtually all drugs should be legalized and taxed -- same as tobacco and booz.

Of course I don't condone the use of any of these things, but the are a 100,000,000+ a$$holes out there who can't get off them. So, rather than give the money to drug cartels and street criminals -- and law enforcement agencies -- governments should collect and turn it to (relatively) good use.
Not to twist this into a political debate (we have enough of those here lately) but:
The biggest reason that drugs do not get legalized is because the drug cartels control much of our legal process. They don't want those laws changed. It would put them out of business. So they make their contributions to political campaigns. Lobbyists make their cases to keep the laws "as is" and they keep rolling in the do-ray-me.

Feanor
10-20-2009, 09:32 AM
Not to twist this into a political debate (we have enough of those here lately) but:
The biggest reason that drugs do not get legalized is because the drug cartels control much of our legal process. They don't want those laws changed. It would put them out of business. So they make their contributions to political campaigns. Lobbyists make their cases to keep the laws "as is" and they keep rolling in the do-ray-me.

Yah, man, like, lobbyists rule! :3:

GMichael
10-20-2009, 09:43 AM
Yah, man, like, lobbyists rule! :3:

But do they know of a good place to get cheap smokes?

(see how I got back on topic Smokey?)

OCDAudio
10-20-2009, 10:45 AM
A lot of guys quit smoking permanently in 'Nam... Charlie could zero in on the smell...
"Lucky Strike" written on their 'Toe-Tag'...