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zorin
04-05-2009, 05:26 AM
I am considering to bi-amp the B&W 683;
I'll use Bryston 2B SST2 for the tweeter & midrange
and the output from Onkyo TX-SR806 for the woofer.
Is it possible, or would become a mess...

zorin
04-05-2009, 05:26 AM
I am considering to bi-amp the B&W 683;
I'll use Bryston 2B SST2 for the tweeter & midrange
and the output from Onkyo TX-SR806 for the woofer.
Is it possible, or would become a mess...

audio amateur
04-05-2009, 05:49 AM
Why on earth would you mix a Bryston and the amp from a Onkyo receiver?
I'm not even sure that's possible. My opinion: don't do it.

TheHills44060
04-05-2009, 08:55 AM
I am considering to bi-amp the B&W 683;
I'll use Bryston 2B SST2 for the tweeter & midrange
and the output from Onkyo TX-SR806 for the woofer.
Is it possible, or would become a mess...
I really see no gain to bi-amping with that sort of configuration. You'd be doing more harm than good so i'd stick with the Bryston for power.

JohnMichael
04-05-2009, 09:14 AM
My concern about you bi-amping involves being able to match the sound levels of the woofer with the midrange/tweeter. I am not sure if the Onkyo would give you any ability to adjust the two amps. Bi-amping with different amps is easier if the speaker has an external crossover that can be adjusted.

In most bi-amp applications with disimilar amps the stronger more powerful amp is used for the woofer. A smaller and more refined amp for the midrange and tweeter. I would think the Bryston would better control the woofer. Since the Onkyo will not have the job of driving the woofer it might sound better for the upper frequencies.

If you already own both I would try it. If it sounds bad then go back to one or the other. You might get best results using the Onkyo as a pre-amp and the more refined Bryston as a power amp. I do not think you would damage anything by trying this out. Good luck and let us know what you hear and which is better.

Zorin, Welcome to AudioReview.

zorin
04-05-2009, 09:57 AM
Actually I haven't had the Bryston,
but I've heard a friend use it.
I'm just considered put it into my system,
because with the Onkyo 806 driving the B&W 683,
it seems something if missing...
Hello...everybody...
Do u have opinion what should I do...
Really need help on this.

audio amateur
04-05-2009, 10:04 AM
We just have given you help...

zorin
04-05-2009, 06:04 PM
I mean if I use Bryston power amp from Onkyo pre-out and not bi-amp the speakers,
would it sound better or I should stick with the Onkyo.
Since, from the information I get,
The Bryston has 100 wpc, and the Onkyo has 130 wpc,
and from what I know Bryston is a better amp than Onkyo.

RoadRunner6
04-05-2009, 06:15 PM
Jim, I hope you and the Redskins have a great season this year.

audio amateur
04-06-2009, 03:14 AM
Stick with the Onkyo, unless you can get a very good deal with the Bryston. They're not usually cheap

zorin
04-06-2009, 04:21 AM
What do u think, cheap or expensive...
A pre-used (2006) Bryston Power amp 2B SST2 along with BP6 pre amp,
they offer me for USD 1500.
Should I take them, and of course, I'll keep the BP6 pre amp,
and make some savings so I can build another system for music only,
I'm thinking if I could make it, I'll use the B&W 700 series speakers.
Please advise...

audio amateur
04-06-2009, 06:14 AM
Sounds like a deal but i can't really tell you more. If you're going to use the Bryston amp, definitely use it with the Bryston pre-amp and not the Onkyo.

bfalls
04-06-2009, 06:27 AM
It seems a little overkill, but I would configure it the opposite as what you discuss. Use the Onkyo for your mid/highs and the B&K for the woofers. Taking the woofers off the receiver will free up a lot of the power for mid/highs. It will also keep the 5, 6, 7 portion of your 7.1 receiver's surround sound using identical amplification. I have this configuration setup with my Legacy Focus mains system. I use the Sony STR-DA5300ES (120W/CH x 7) for the mid/highs and a Yamaha M-65 (170W/ch) for the 3-12" woofers of the Focus'. I can separately adjust the sub outputs, either manually using the adjustments on the amp, or adjust the sub out signal via the receiver's sub menu adjustments. Taking the low frequency drive off the receiver helps the sound.

zorin
04-06-2009, 07:52 AM
Thanks for all of you, thanks for the opinions.

I'm still a little confuse,
Aren't we supposed to use a better of 2 amps for the high/mid channel?
For I know Bryston is a lot better than Onkyo.
And,
I think we should use the higher wpc amp for the low/woofer channel.
From what i learned,
Bryston has 100 watts per channel
Onkyo has 130 watts per channel
Am i right?

But after all,
I'll like to ask all of you for one more time,
If you're me,
what would you definitely do without hasitation.

Because, as you know, i think the offering price of the Bryston is really very sweet.
The problem is, is it a waste.

Please feel free to give your opinions.
Thank you all.

Hyfi
04-06-2009, 08:42 AM
Thanks for all of you, thanks for the opinions.

I'm still a little confuse,
Aren't we supposed to use a better of 2 amps for the high/mid channel?
For I know Bryston is a lot better than Onkyo.
And,
I think we should use the higher wpc amp for the low/woofer channel.
From what i learned,
Bryston has 100 watts per channel
Onkyo has 130 watts per channel
Am i right?

But after all,
I'll like to ask all of you for one more time,
If you're me,
what would you definitely do without hasitation.

Because, as you know, i think the offering price of the Bryston is really very sweet.
The problem is, is it a waste.

Please feel free to give your opinions.
Thank you all.

Although Onkyo gear is pretty good, no matter what the WPC is, the Bryston would be the better amp all around. From the trail, I am unsure if this is for a Home Theater application or just 2 ch stereo using a receiver pre out to a power amp. If this is 2 ch and you go with the Bryston, you might as well get a decent pre amp to go along with it.

You will hear (or not hear) whatever is missing using a mass market receiver with a higher end speaker. Better speakers need better power amps to shine.

You can in no way compare watts per channel between these two pcs of gear. We could all point you to 15 wpc tube amps that would blow them both away.

zorin
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
Hi Hyfi,

Maybe sounds a bit strange, but i'm trying to make it both (home theatre & 2 channel) sounds equal, even in movies or music, because for know...i've only a set of this...
I have a complete set of 7.1 surround speaker, and i'm using a quite good cable set;
Kimber Kable for front channel;
QED silver annivesary XT for surround & rear;
I use Harmony power cords & interconnects;
along with an addition of Oyaide power conditioner to the Monster Power 3600
The CD player is from Spark Audio, and you know what... it's a tube CDP.
Then, the most important question:
what should i do with the configuration?
should i use the pre-out from a reciever to go through a power amp like the Bryston?
What do you think the best?
Bryston for mid/hi...or Bryston for low...?