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Worf101
11-18-2008, 05:49 AM
Or an unfair fight, take your pick. I'm not askin' that tired assed question, "which Bond was best"? It's Connery and all the rest are fightin' it out for second place. No, I'm askin' which Connery kicks all the others in the arse and then steals their lunch money and puts there momma on the corner?

Let the games begin.

Da Worfster

GMichael
11-18-2008, 06:19 AM
A fair fight? What does that entail? No gadgets? No dirt in the eyes? What are the rules here?
Oh screw it. Connery wasn't just the best. He was the toughest. That's what made him the best. He was like, The Duke meets, A Duke.

Now, if Angelina Jolie had even been a Bond I'd have had to think a little harder.

kexodusc
11-18-2008, 06:38 AM
While Connery and Moore were always my favorites, when Craig came along it became clear very early on that he could crush both of them put together. To make this poll fair, he should be left out.

Not just cause he's new, because the biggest pussy on the list has to be Brosnan, who's also recent. But because this guy looks like he can handle himself and because Craig ain't no saint. There'll be no internal moral battles being fought while he's cheating to win...seems to me he likes working with his bare hands a bit more than the others - a real man's killer.

Let's face it - after Pierce Brosnan wussed up Bond to Richard Gere-esque femininity, nobody ever thought they'd have respect for Bond again...Craig kicked the crap out of that legacy.

Auricauricle
11-18-2008, 07:00 AM
George Lazenby never made it very high on my list....Then again, Telly Savalas as Blofeld was equally less than compelling. I never cared for Moore, who I though was too suave to raise a fist and had such a penchant for poor puns (oh what a hypocrite, I!) that I wrote him off nearly immediately. It didn't help that the movies were often second-rate (Moonraker was a bomb). Timothy Dalton was okay, but nothing to write home about. Brosnan wasn't that bad, kexter. I can't yet get your Gere-esqueness, but there is enough Remington Steele in the guy that he will have to spend a few more years in the dirt for me to take him very seriously. The new bond, Craig, is a different cat altogether. Craig's confluent gentleman and rogue qualities play well into the mishmash persona of Bond that Fleming referred to only fleetingly. So I"ll put him down as Connery's Mini Me.

JSE
11-18-2008, 07:17 AM
In a fair fight, I think Connery would come in as the crowd favorite and probably start off with a bang due to his swagger, attitude, and mental toughness. But, pure arse-kicking skills will win out in the end and that's where I think Craig takes it from Connery. I think Craig would have too much speed and power for Connery to handle. 6th round knock out.

In an unfair fight? Connery every time. Craig seems to be more the outright better fighter in terms of skills but Connery clearly has the edge in ingenuity and would out-wit Craig by the ol' sand in the eyes trick, look over there followed by a sucker punch trick, the wait that really hurt let's rest a moment followed by a sucker punch trick, the crying followed by a sucker punch trick, the Indiana Jones just whip out a pistol and shoot him trick, the Cartman rip a nasty one and while the opponent is chocking sucker punch him trick (not that the sucker punch would even be needed at that point) or the confuse him with a overly thick Scottish accent followed by a sucker kick to the jewels trick.

Auricauricle
11-18-2008, 07:23 AM
That's quite a bag-o-tricks you got there, Fatman!

kexodusc
11-18-2008, 07:32 AM
Remind me not to get into into a drunken bar fight with JSE over who ate the last nacho.

Worf101
11-18-2008, 08:02 AM
In a fair fight, I think Connery would come in as the crowd favorite and probably start off with a bang due to his swagger, attitude, and mental toughness. But, pure arse-kicking skills will win out in the end and that's where I think Craig takes it from Connery. I think Craig would have too much speed and power for Connery to handle. 6th round knock out.

In an unfair fight? Connery every time. Craig seems to be more the outright better fighter in terms of skills but Connery clearly has the edge in ingenuity and would out-wit Craig by the ol' sand in the eyes trick, look over there followed by a sucker punch trick, the wait that really hurt let's rest a moment followed by a sucker punch trick, the crying followed by a sucker punch trick, the Indiana Jones just whip out a pistol and shoot him trick, the Cartman rip a nasty one and while the opponent is chocking sucker punch him trick (not that the sucker punch would even be needed at that point) or the confuse him with a overly thick Scottish accent followed by a sucker kick to the jewels trick.
Your scholarly treatise on the finer points of low dirt barroom brawling confrims many (many ah say) of the suspicions I had about you Grass Skirt. I'm sure there are a few oustanding warrants floating around for you somewhere... we'll soon see....

By the by I do agree with your premise. On strength and speek alone, Craig, throw in "a trickeration situation to influence the confrontation" (done in my best Don King voiceover) and we've Connery by a nose.


Da Worfster

kexodusc
11-18-2008, 09:11 AM
Your scholarly treatise on the finer points of low dirt barroom brawling confrims many (many ah say) of the suspicions I had about you Grass Skirt. I'm sure there are a few oustanding warrants floating around for you somewhere... we'll soon see....

By the by I do agree with your premise. On strength and speek alone, Craig, throw in "a trickeration situation to influence the confrontation" (done in my best Don King voiceover) and we've Connery by a nose.


Da Worfster

The Don King voice needs a bit of flamboyance, but your Don King hairdo is bang on. I'm sad to say..:nonod:

On the other hand, Craig is falling behind drastically in the ever important notch-on-the-bedpost count. Which Bond is ahead in that tally? :smilewinkgrin:

Auricauricle
11-18-2008, 09:49 AM
Connery is right on top of things as far as the Stud-o-Meter is concerned....

GMichael
11-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Very punny.:devil:

JSE
11-18-2008, 12:01 PM
That's quite a bag-o-tricks you got there, Fatman!

The correct term is "fatass" :thumbsup:


Remind me not to get into into a drunken bar fight with JSE over who ate the last nacho.

A wise choice!


Your scholarly treatise on the finer points of low dirt barroom brawling confrims many (many ah say) of the suspicions I had about you Grass Skirt. I'm sure there are a few oustanding warrants floating around for you somewhere... we'll soon see....
.

I admit nothing!

Rich-n-Texas
11-18-2008, 12:18 PM
You're out of control Cartman. Someone pull the nipple of your Shiner? :rolleyes:

Auricauricle
11-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Sorry about the mix-up, Mr. Snake-in-the-grass-skirt. I get distracted sometimes. Especially when there's a bug-eyed perv who reads a pun in nearly every ejaculation I publish. Rich, that sort of imagery gives me the willies....I told you about my friend and colleague. Now go to your corner b'fore I open this can....

bobsticks
11-18-2008, 08:57 PM
He said "ejaculation".

bobsticks
11-18-2008, 08:59 PM
...FTW!!!

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3-LockBox
11-21-2008, 03:57 PM
As has already been stated, Craig may have more skill, but Connery had skill and wit and would've done whatever it took to win.

RoyY51
11-21-2008, 04:16 PM
...David Niven in the original Casino Royale.

nightflier
11-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Yeah, but Niven wasn't exactly Bond material. Connery, with a vengeance. I agree that Craig has balls (apparently swollen ones), but Connery is just a little less nice and yet still more classy.

Auricauricle
11-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Connery wears a kilt.....

Wits
11-22-2008, 06:51 PM
I've never seen Craig perform so I can't compare him obviously. Thinking back over all of the 007 movies I've seen I can remember Sean Connery in many tough physical confrontations; the others, not so much. Considering that Connery was the first Bond, this either means that I remember more about him because he was the first, or I remember more because he did more. I'm betting on the latter.

thekid
11-22-2008, 11:01 PM
I'd take Connery if they were fighting in a corner where he could overpower Craig. Short of that Craig's quickness and apparent mastery of hand to hand combat wins the day. Connery was just a straight up puncher with that occasional lam karate chop to the back of the neck. Craig would dance around him slip in a few kicks and when Connery wears out Craig takes him down. All the others aren;t in the conversation though Dalton might have been tough but his movies were somewhat washed out.

Auricauricle
11-24-2008, 06:12 AM
Connery wears a kilt!

topspeed
11-24-2008, 02:26 PM
Anyone that can survive what Craig did while "seated" has my vote. Connery may be trickier, but Craig would simply outlast him. If you can't bring a guy down after smashing his...uh, excuse me while I unwind from the fetal position...well, let's just say he's tough enough to win.

nightflier
11-24-2008, 03:58 PM
Connery wears a kilt!

...he'd still kick Craig's ass.

And as far as cracking jokes while his privates are being pounded, I think Connery would be just as likely to be cracking jokes throughout the ordeal. On that front... end... whatever, I say they're about even.

But in a down and out brawl, Connery would come out ahead, have something witty to say about it afterward, and still manage to bring home a suggestive souvenir for Money Penny. Craig couldn't, or wouldn't, do all that.

Worf101
11-25-2008, 06:51 AM
Anyone that can survive what Craig did while "seated" has my vote. Connery may be trickier, but Craig would simply outlast him. If you can't bring a guy down after smashing his...uh, excuse me while I unwind from the fetal position...well, let's just say he's tough enough to win.
I deliberately blotted that scene out of my mind.... FOR A REASON!!! I'm gettin' ill just thinking of it... There's not enough ice, air cushions or pillows in all the kingdom to alleviate that beat down.... God almighty I hurt just thinkin' about it. Still you gotta admire a guy that can "crack wise" while his nuts are gettin' cracked.

Da Worfster

Feanor
11-25-2008, 11:07 AM
Or an unfair fight, take your pick. I'm not askin' that tired assed question, "which Bond was best"? It's Connery and all the rest are fightin' it out for second place. No, I'm askin' which Connery kicks all the others in the arse and then steals their lunch money and puts there momma on the corner?

Let the games begin.

Da Worfster

:confused: I haven't paid money to see a Bond movie since Doctor No.

kexodusc
11-25-2008, 03:04 PM
:confused: I haven't paid money to see a Bond movie since Doctor No.
A well conceived, calculated, and articulated opinion...

Auricauricle
11-25-2008, 03:31 PM
"Thash right, Mish Moneypenny...I'm Dick. Bent Dick. 00 six-and-a-half. The other hal's stuck to the bottom of a shtick shomewhere...."