Cottage Cheese - yea or nay?

[kexodusc]

Never has 1 food generated such controversy...

I eat 1/2 to 1 cup a day depending what diet I'm on. It's great with 2 tbsps of Peanut Butter...mmm.

My wife thinks it looks like some "prisoner's nasty curddled body excrement"...

Love it or hate it?

(just curious)

[trollgirl]

Ongoing asthma has caused me to give up dairy (again). It may well be permanent this time.

As you might expect, epinephrine is my drug of choice...

Laz

[kexodusc]

Ongoing asthma has caused me to give up dairy (again). It may well be permanent this time.

As you might expect, epinephrine is my drug of choice...

Laz
Let's give it up for Laz, ladies and gentlemen, ar.com's in-house comic relief...he's here all week...sorry to hear about your medical troubles Laz...hope you can still drink coffee, or wine, or whatever vices you have.




I'm lactose intolerant but oddly enough cc doesn't bother me much at all...

[bobsticks]

Dammit Kex, your sensationalizing of people's problems has gone too far this time...just to sell a thread. Geez, you're no better than those Hollywood photogs that doctor-up celebrity pictures...http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/05/09/mischa_barton_s_rep_says_cellulite_pictu


..oh...waitaminute...you really meant it...

Absolutely! I've never tried the peanut butter thang but I like heavy doses of ceyenne pepper. Great, low-fat way to get your dairy.

[bobsticks]

Ongoing asthma has caused me to give up dairy (again). It may well be permanent this time.

As you might expect, epinephrine is my drug of choice...

Laz

I can get you tractor brake fluid and coffee filters in bulk for cheap...








(j/k DEA,ATF, BBN)

[JohnMichael]

So many diets in my life and at least they no longer involve cottage cheese. I think I have eaten cottage cheese in just about any combination. I can eat cottage cheese but oddly I never crave it. Right now I am enjoying a lemon iced cookie with my chardonnay. :dita: cottage cheese.

[GMichael]

I'll pass. Don't hate it, but don't enjoy it either.
Does look a lot like puke though.

[ForeverAutumn]

Yea. I love cottage cheese with fresh fruit.

I have a double whammy. Like Kex, I'm also lactose intolerant but cheeses and yogurt don't seem to bother me (ice cream is totally evil). And like Laz, I have asthma but I will occasionally indulge in dairy when it's under control...although I probably shouldn't.

One of my favourite things for lunch on a warm summer's day is a plate of fresh berries and grapes with cottage cheese, drizzled with a little honey (the real stuff not the processed crap from the supermarket) and sprinkled lightly with some pecans or walnuts.

[kexodusc]

Ok..I gotsta ask. What is the relationship between allergies and dairy products?

[GMichael]

Ok..I gotsta ask. What is the relationship between allergies and dairy products?

Being lactose intolerant is an allergy. They are allergic to dairy products. Often, when someone is allergic to one thing, there are other things that become probable allergies.

Yeah yeah, I know. My English sucks. But you get my point right?

[ForeverAutumn]

Actually, Lactose Intolerance is not an allergy. Although some people are allergic to milk products, the body's reaction is different.

Lactose intolerance is the inability to properly digest milk products due to your body not producing the enzyme required to break down the sugars in milk during the digestive process. A full description is here (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/lactose-intolerance/DS00530). Some people take enzyme pills, like Lactaid, before they eat dairy products and that helps break down the sugars and avoid the uncomfortable symptoms.

Where asthma is concerned, dairy products create phlem and mucus in your body. Excess mucus can constrict your airways. Many people who suffer from asthma find that reducing or removing dairy from their diets helps to reduce the number and severity of asthma attacks.

I'm not sure if that answers your question Kex. There's lots of good information on lactose intolerance, milk allergies and asthma on the Mayo Clinic website.

[kexodusc]

Being lactose intolerant is an allergy. They are allergic to dairy products. Often, when someone is allergic to one thing, there are other things that become probable allergies.

Yeah yeah, I know. My English sucks. But you get my point right?
Now I feel dumb...I started getting really bad stomach pains caused by gas and all the nasties that digestion (or indigestion produce)after drinking too much milk, eating ice cream, etc.
After going to my doctor a few times he told me I was simply lactose intolerant because my stomach lacked certain enzymes. He advised me to avoid the foods that trigger me getting tummy aches. Or take Lactaid and such before hand.

So I thought I was enzyme deficient...never once did he tell me it was an allergy. Maybe they mean the same thing???

I've been deathly allergic to tomatoes for years...think there could be some correlation? No more tomato milkshakes for Kex :nonod:

[kexodusc]

Actually, Lactose Intolerance is not an allergy. Although some people are allergic to milk products, the body's reaction is different.

Lactose intolerance is the inability to properly digest milk products due to your body not producing the enzyme required to break down the sugars in milk during the digestive process. A full description is here (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/lactose-intolerance/DS00530). Some people take enzyme pills, like Lactaid, before they eat dairy products and that helps break down the sugars and avoid the uncomfortable symptoms.

Where asthma is concerned, dairy products create phlem and mucus in your body. Excess mucus can constrict your airways. Many people who suffer from asthma find that reducing or removing dairy from their diets helps to reduce the number and severity of asthma attacks.

I'm not sure if that answers your question Kex. There's lots of good information on lactose intolerance, milk allergies and asthma on the Mayo Clinic website.

Oh...okay...so it's more of a respiratory allergy relationship - so in the spring and fall I should cut back on milk maybe for a few weeks when the asthma gets bad?

(edit: yes, I get all my medical advice from the ar.com forums!!!)

[GMichael]

Now I feel like the dumb one. 50 lashes for GM!
FA, do you still have that wet noodle?

[ForeverAutumn]

Oh...okay...so it's more of a respiratory allergy relationship - so in the spring and fall I should cut back on milk maybe for a few weeks when the asthma gets bad?

(edit: yes, I get all my medical advice from the ar.com forums!!!)

Absolutely! I have terrible seasonal allergies that contribute to my asthma and I try to stay away from all dairy products during these seasons.

Soy is a wonderful substitute for dairy (I buy soy milk, cheese, yogurt and ice cream). Some people like rice products also, but I find them too watery. If you choose to replace milk products with soy products make sure that the product is made with organic soy beans. Soy is one of the most genetically modified products available, organic beans will not be GM.

I avoid dairy any time that I have a respiratory illness, whether its an asthma problem or just a cold. I find that avoiding dairy at these times makes a huge difference in my ability to breath.

As for the Intolerance. Based on the explanation of your symptoms, what your doctor has told you is most likely correct. Those are the same symptoms that I was having that eventually led to my diagnosis also. Your body can stop producing these enzymes as you age, so it's possible to develop this intolerance as an adult. That's what happened to me and because of that it was a long time before I made the connection between dairy and my discomfort and finally went to my doctor about it.

The intolerance and the asthma are likely non-related issues. The only thing in common is that both are aggravated by consuming dairy products.

[ForeverAutumn]

Now I feel like the dumb one. 50 lashes for GM!
FA, do you still have that wet noodle?

No worries GM. Because I suffer from lactose intolerance and asthma I've done a ton of research on both.

Anything that you want to know about acid reflux disease? :lol:

[budgetaudio76]

interesting poll there kex. i cant remember if i ever had some cottage cheese. it doesnt look familiar. so ive been leery of it. HEY LOOK IT MOOVED! sort of thing.

[shokhead]

Never has 1 food generated such controversy...

I eat 1/2 to 1 cup a day depending what diet I'm on. It's great with 2 tbsps of Peanut Butter...mmm.

My wife thinks it looks like some "prisoner's nasty curddled body excrement"...

Love it or hate it?

(just curious)

CC with a little sugar sprinkled on top. A nice snack.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Oh...okay...so it's more of a respiratory allergy relationship - so in the spring and fall I should cut back on milk maybe for a few weeks when the asthma gets bad?
Uhhhh.... so like, have I been mysteriously transported to the WebMD discussion forums? :rolleyes:

[Rich-n-Texas]

Now I feel like the dumb one. 50 lashes for GM!
FA, do you still have that wet noodle?
Dumbass. :rolleyes:

[Groundbeef]

Hey look, GM is back.

Where have you been hiding buddy?

As far as cottage cheese is concerned its just nasty. I love dairy, sour cream, most cheese, but that one I can't do.

[Rich-n-Texas]

He was in Florida checking out the retirement homes.

[ForeverAutumn]

Uhhhh.... so like, have I been mysteriously transported to the WebMD discussion forums? :rolleyes:

Yep. That's why they call it the Off-Topic forum, my friend. :thumbsup:

[ForeverAutumn]

it doesnt look familiar. so ive been leery of it. HEY LOOK IT MOOVED! sort of thing.

That's how I feel about tapioca pudding.

[GMichael]

He was in Florida checking out the retirement homes.

Partially true. We did visit a few of my dad's friends who moved into gated communities. Almost made me want to grow old faster. Man! Some of those places are frickin nice!

[Rich-n-Texas]

Yep. That's why they call it the Off-Topic forum, my friend. :thumbsup:
Yes but, wasn't the topic about tapioca pudding.... err, no.... cottage cheese? :sosp:

That would make this an off off topic right?

I love tapioca, but I'd eat fermunda cheese before I'd eat cottage cheese. :gag:

[GMichael]

Yes but, wasn't the topic about tapioca pudding.... err, no.... cottage cheese? :sosp:

That would make this an off off topic right?

I love tapioca, but I'd eat fermunda cheese before I'd eat cottage cheese. :gag:

Eeeeeeeywwwwwaaaaa....
I'd rather have the CC.

[audio amateur]

Scores are looking pretty equal.
I personally haven't had any in a while. My bro has asthma but I never knew dairy foods could have an effect on it. Maybe that explains his going to the bathroom 3 times a day:D

[Smokey]

Cottage cheese is pretty much bland by itself, but if incorporated into other dished it is pretty good. I like to put Cottage cheese in lasagna with fresh spinach. Just make sure to whip in one whole egg to cottage cheese before incorporating into lasagna as to keep it firm after cooking.

[Rich-n-Texas]

A real Italian would give you the kiss of death if he found out you substituted Ricotta cheese with CC Smokey. :incazzato:

[Smokey]

A real Italian would give you the kiss of death if he found out you substituted Ricotta cheese with CC Smokey. :incazzato:

Wait till they find out that I also substitute mozzarella with Swiss cheese in that dish http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/images/smilies/gangster.gif

[GMichael]

Wait till they find out that I also substitute mozzarella with Swiss cheese in that dish http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/images/smilies/gangster.gif

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Say it aint so!
I think Momma just rolled over in her grave.

[Rich-n-Texas]

I think it's just because his eyesight's heading down the tubes GM. It's getting tough to read labels at his age. :p

[Woochifer]

I dunno, I actually like the stuff, but could never just eat it as a meal. Thank goodness I've never had to go on an actual diet.

My baby girl though just started eating it, and absolutely loves it.

[kexodusc]

I dunno, I actually like the stuff, but could never just eat it as a meal. Thank goodness I've never had to go on an actual diet.

My baby girl though just started eating it, and absolutely loves it.

You've never dieted? You don't know what you're missing. You must be like my brother with one of those turbo charged metabolisms. I hate you both.

When I was in high school and college I was much more into sports and I'd eat to gain or lose weight to reach certain goals. My big weight lifting friends tipped me off on cottage cheese. I hated it at first mostly because of the texture, I really can't taste much of it. If you ever try to put on some muscle in the off-season I can't think of a better combo than cottage cheese and natural peanut butter - lots of protein and healthy fats. It's like a instant muscle chow. Good weight to add protein dense food without the bad fats/carbs.

When I diet to lose fat I cut back on the PB and eat less cottage cheese, but it's a good appetite suppressant. Keeps ya full for a bit longer - the casein protein is about as slow digesting as they come. I found out I'm diabetic 2 years ago so following a diet plan has become very necessary. Cottage cheese and PB has become my movie snack, replacing the usual poisons I love...though occasionally I break down and a chocolate bar or some popcorn. I'm weak.

Another great meal - PB/Banana/Cottage Cheese sandwiches...mmmmmm.

I never cook with it. Might have to try Smokey's Lasagna recipe.

[Smokey]

I think it's just because his eyesight's heading down the tubes GM. It's getting tough to read labels at his age. :p

My eye sight might be going bad, but my taste bud still working :ciappa:


I never cook with it. Might have to try Smokey's Lasagna recipe

As GM and Rich warned, use recipe at your own risk http://planetsmilies.net/eat-drink-smiley-7854.gif

[budgetaudio76]

hey?...guys?....all this talk about the virtues about cottage cheese is getting me interested.
can you be nice and stop it? ;p Tapioca i will eat any day. Look kids im eating frogs eyes! somebody brought me some cottage cheese once awhile back. sat in the fridge unopened for close to 2 months. finally got the nerve to open it. it had grown some extra vitamins(bletch!)and all those lumps to go along with it(whew) is it any wonder im leery of it?

[Feanor]

Never has 1 food generated such controversy...

I eat 1/2 to 1 cup a day depending what diet I'm on. It's great with 2 tbsps of Peanut Butter...mmm.

My wife thinks it looks like some "prisoner's nasty curddled body excrement"...

Love it or hate it?

(just curious)

Not me! But hell yeah, I'd rather eat ice cream. I've eaten a whole pint on manys an occassion. But that was in the past.

Musn't do it today: too much sugar, (causes acid reflux); too, too many calories; too much saturated fat; too much trans fat, (remember, beef product -- meat, milk, cheese-- have naturally occurring trans fats and must be avoided by people like me with low HDL).

[emaidel]

I like cottage cheese, but seldom ever have any in the fridge. I think it tastes especially good with pineapple - somehow it develops a richer, creamier taste with that fruit, and more so than with others. It's also a very good substituted, along with chopped chives, for sour cream on a baked potato for those on a diet.

Now, here's something to either tantalize or revolt AR members: I remember being able to purchase both a prune Danish, or the prune variety of Dannon yogurt (with the fruit on the bottom). I find the combinations very delicious, but can't find either anywhere anymore.

So, I tried the following: take vanilla yogurt (I can't stand the plain varietey), and add a teaspoon of prune butter, and mix it up. The taste is delicious, and a good use for prune butter.

And, thank goodness, the efforts of the folks who felt the word "prune" was a turnoff, and created the appellation, "dried plums" didn't succeed. Can you imagine "Dried Plum Butter?"

[ForeverAutumn]

When I was in high school and college I was much more into sports and I'd eat to gain or lose weight to reach certain goals. My big weight lifting friends tipped me off on cottage cheese. I hated it at first mostly because of the texture, I really can't taste much of it. If you ever try to put on some muscle in the off-season I can't think of a better combo than cottage cheese and natural peanut butter - lots of protein and healthy fats. It's like a instant muscle chow. Good weight to add protein dense food without the bad fats/carbs.

I used to work out with a trainer who had me mixing cottage cheese with fruit yogurt. It was delicious. Although, I often substituted the yogurt with organic soy yogurt to reduce the dairy a bit. I've never tried mixing peanut butter in my cottage cheese (I have mixed PB with vanilla yogurt), I'll have to try that. I'm not a big meat eater (I never touch red meat) so I'm always looking for ways to improve my protien intake.

As for recipes, my mom makes a wicked low-fat, no-bake cheesecake with cottage cheese and pineapple. I'll see if I can get the recipe from her and post it.

emaidel, I agree with you about the pineapple. I'll eat CC with pretty much any fruit but I think that it goes best with tart sugary fruits like pineapple, grapes and berries.

[Rich-n-Texas]

...As for recipes, my mom makes a wicked low-fat, no-bake cheesecake with cottage cheese and pineapple. I'll see if I can get the recipe from her and post it...
Bring a cake to JM's party. There's gotta be some kinda liquor I can smother my slice with that'll kill off the CC cultures. :ihih:

[kexodusc]

I used to work out with a trainer who had me mixing cottage cheese with fruit yogurt. It was delicious. Although, I often substituted the yogurt with organic soy yogurt to reduce the dairy a bit. I've never tried mixing peanut butter in my cottage cheese (I have mixed PB with vanilla yogurt), I'll have to try that. I'm not a big meat eater (I never touch red meat) so I'm always looking for ways to improve my protien intake.


Like I said, I'll heat half a cup to a full cup a day. It's a good slow burning protein for over night which helps promote anabolism (or I guess prevent catabolism). Sometimes I'll put a scoop of chocolate whey powder in with it to mix it up. Tastes more like a Reese penut butter cup..well not quite, but still yummy.

The PB is a constant though. Don't get me started on the miracle that is peanut butter.
My biggest fear in life is that too many people develop peanut allergies and I have to stop bringing my pb sandwiches to work. I could polish off a tub of that delicious stuff. Gotta be the natural stuff though...natty PB has none of the hydrogenated oils and lots of the good fats....

Never tried the pineapple combo or a cheese cake though...now I need the recipe. Finding good snacks for diets is tough.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Cottage cheese...mmmmmmmmmm with peaches....... mmmmmmmm, with bacon bits(real bacon).....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I love cottage cheese:yesnod:

[bobsticks]

...you see it but you just can't get outta the way...

Jo momma got so much cottage cheese that Rich-N-Texas threw pineapple at the back of 'er legs and went in fo' seconds.





I'm like school in July...no class

[Rich-n-Texas]

I never did get a good look at her face. :nonod:

[ForeverAutumn]

Never tried the pineapple combo or a cheese cake though...now I need the recipe. Finding good snacks for diets is tough.

Well, I thought that Mom made her cheesecake with cottage cheese, but I was wrong...she uses cream cheese. I am giving you her recipe. She said that to make it a low-fat version, she uses light cream cheese and skim milk. The Dream Whip dessert topping is already low cal/fat.

This cheesecake is a soft consistency (definately not a New York style). You may be finding yourself scooping it with a spoon rather than slicing with a knife. But it's delicious.

Graham wafer crust or Oreo crumb crust
2 pkgs dessert topping (dream whip)
1 lb. cream cheese (2 pkgs Philadelphia)
1 cup milk
2 tbsp. milk
1 cup well drained crushed pineapple
1 c. icing sugar
1/4 c. juice from pineapple
1 single envelope of gelatin

Prepare crust as directed on product box, save some to sprinkle on top. Press into a 10" or 12" form pan. Bake at 375 for 8 min.

In large bowl, blend cheese with 2 tbls. milk on electric mixer.
Gradually add icing sugar and beat at high speed until fluffy.
Combine dessert topping with 1 cup milk and prepare according to package. (I do this before I start the cheese and put into refrigerator until I need it)
Add dessert topping and beat at high speed for 3 to 4 minutes.
Mix gelatin and pineapple juice. Heat in microwave 30 seconds until gelatin is dissolved.
Fold gelatin and pineapple into batter and pour batter over crust.
Top with crumbs and refrigerate for 6 hours or overnight.

An alternate version is to leave out the crushed pineapple (or keep it in, what the hell :)), place sliced strawberries on the top and pour a thin layer of strawberry jello over the top and let it set. Don't forget that you still need to include the gelatin in the cheese but you can use water instead of pineapple juice to prepare the gelatin.

[bobsticks]

Thankfully it's almost lunchtime. Nice recipe Fall Girl, it sounds delicious...mebbe this weekend a little time in the kitchen...