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pixelthis
10-17-2007, 12:38 AM
Saw a Sony Blu-ray at HHGREG for 399 in the sunday paper, with the five free movies
thats under 300 bucks in actual deniro.
Little cracks in the wall, little teeny tiny cracks.....:devil:

Groundbeef
10-17-2007, 05:08 AM
Saw a Sony Blu-ray at HHGREG for 399 in the sunday paper, with the five free movies
thats under 300 bucks in actual deniro.
Little cracks in the wall, little teeny tiny cracks.....:devil:

What is it with people here and math. No, it's $399 in "Actual Deniro". You just happen to get 5 movies (mail in coupon) at no EXTRA charge. You still pay $399 Plus Tax.

GMichael
10-17-2007, 05:10 AM
Old news. But it's not supposed to be advertised yet.
Best Buy and Target are guilty of the same as well.
Oh, and don't forget the Spidy game that should be in that bundle.

http://www.ps3news.ca/10162007/16/report_399_40gb_ps3_hits_in_12_days_with_free_spid er_man_3_blu_ray

Groundbeef
10-17-2007, 05:25 AM
Old news. But it's not supposed to be advertised yet.
Best Buy and Target are guilty of the same as well.
Oh, and don't forget the Spidy game that should be in that bundle.

http://www.ps3news.ca/10162007/16/report_399_40gb_ps3_hits_in_12_days_with_free_spid er_man_3_blu_ray

Is it the game? I think its the movie. The games have been notoriously sucky for both consoles, so I doubt they are throwing that in as a "gotcha". I think its the movie.

GMichael
10-17-2007, 05:33 AM
Is it the game? I think its the movie. The games have been notoriously sucky for both consoles, so I doubt they are throwing that in as a "gotcha". I think its the movie.

My bad. Yes, it does say Spidy in "Blu-Ray". That says movie to me.

I'm still looking for the 60GB bundle. They're gonna have to do something to move the old units.
Rumours are that it will be the 60GB with a game TBA and an extra wireless controller for $499.00. (No, that's not less than $400.) (Must be the new math)
We'll see.

L.J.
10-17-2007, 10:11 AM
My bad. Yes, it does say Spidy in "Blu-Ray". That says movie to me.

I'm still looking for the 60GB bundle. They're gonna have to do something to move the old units.
Rumours are that it will be the 60GB with a game TBA and an extra wireless controller for $499.00. (No, that's not less than $400.) (Must be the new math)
We'll see.

I think the 7 free BR deal at amazon ends on the 31st. Times running out.

GMichael
10-17-2007, 10:26 AM
I think the 7 free BR deal at amazon ends on the 31st. Times running out.

Really? That would suck. Where'd you see that?

L.J.
10-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Really? That would suck. Where'd you see that?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_5393252_1/103-5760729-4219838?ie=UTF8&docId=1000125021&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=special-offers-2&pf_rd_r=02VH0KJEG0FYJGPPB3BQ&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=309434901&pf_rd_i=B0009VXAM0

GMichael
10-17-2007, 10:38 AM
Rats. Don't that just put a pimple on my.....

musicman1999
10-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Does he mean the PS3 or the sony 300 standalone player because i bought one of those today for $399.00.


bill

L.J.
10-17-2007, 05:56 PM
Does he mean the PS3 or the sony 300 standalone player because i bought one of those today for $399.00.


bill

Pick up any movies yet?

Give us your thoughts once your all hooked up.

musicman1999
10-17-2007, 06:29 PM
Not yet but i have rented Casino Royal.Its to late to start now, so watch it tomorrow night and post my impressions.

bill

pixelthis
10-17-2007, 11:48 PM
What is it with people here and math. No, it's $399 in "Actual Deniro". You just happen to get 5 movies (mail in coupon) at no EXTRA charge. You still pay $399 Plus Tax.
AND you get five free movies worth from 120 to 150 dollars.
Which reduces the price of your inital outlay.
If you can show me where you can get blu-ray discs for free then I WILL BUY YOUR
ARGUMENT,
Buy a case of beer full price, get a coupon for a FREE case in a week, that reduces the price of your beer by half.
Its a real benefit, thats why people partake in it.
When you took a pic of your brains to make that avatar, did you by chance forget to put them back in?
Doesnt matter what the price is for the movies and the player seperately, what matters is the outlay for the whole package:5:

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 03:32 AM
Are there any restrictions on which movies you can take for free? I know the HD-DVD deals 'round here offer you a choice of 5 out of 20, but you have to pick within smaller categories of 4 - so you can't just take the best 5 movies you want.

If the BluRay deal is similar, the value of those 7 free discs totally reduced to the number of discs you'd actually run out and buy. Not necessarily a great deal where I stand.

As much as I liked "Weekend at Bernie's 2" and "Hot Shots", I"m not sure those are worth $60 to me...

GMichael
10-18-2007, 05:13 AM
Are there any restrictions on which movies you can take for free? I know the HD-DVD deals 'round here offer you a choice of 5 out of 20, but you have to pick within smaller categories of 4 - so you can't just take the best 5 movies you want.

If the BluRay deal is similar, the value of those 7 free discs totally reduced to the number of discs you'd actually run out and buy. Not necessarily a great deal where I stand.

As much as I liked "Weekend at Bernie's 2" and "Hot Shots", I"m not sure those are worth $60 to me...

If you go to the Amazon link that LJ posted, it showes what movies are included. I believe that you get 2 with the PS3 (from the above list) and then a coupon for 5 more (no mention of list).

GMichael
10-18-2007, 05:15 AM
AND you get five free movies worth from 120 to 150 dollars.
Which reduces the price of your inital outlay.
If you can show me where you can get blu-ray discs for free then I WILL BUY YOUR
ARGUMENT,
Buy a case of beer full price, get a coupon for a FREE case in a week, that reduces the price of your beer by half.
Its a real benefit, thats why people partake in it.
When you took a pic of your brains to make that avatar, did you by chance forget to put them back in?
Doesnt matter what the price is for the movies and the player seperately, what matters is the outlay for the whole package:5:

Still not the same as buying a PS3 for under $300. What if you didn't want any movies?
You still paid $400.

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 06:01 AM
Yeah, if you download the Mail-in-rebate form for the 5 free BluRays you get to choose from 5 categories...some of the movies include

The Prestige
Swordfish
Stir Of Echoes
The Patriot
Chain Reaction
Hart’s War
Wild Hogs
Superman
American Psycho
S.W.A.T.
Omen 666
The Last Waltz
Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl
Full Metal Jacket
The Devil’s Rejects
Ultraviolet
Flight Of The Phoenix
Species

But there's restrictions - you can't take Pirates and The Prestige for example, and your 5th choice is going to be one crappy movie :)
Still, better than nothing, but most of these I wouldn't pay money for...

GMichael
10-18-2007, 06:12 AM
Yeah, if you download the Mail-in-rebate form for the 5 free BluRays you get to choose from 5 categories...some of the movies include

The Prestige
Swordfish
Stir Of Echoes
The Patriot
Chain Reaction
Hart’s War
Wild Hogs
Superman
American Psycho
S.W.A.T.
Omen 666
The Last Waltz
Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl
Full Metal Jacket
The Devil’s Rejects
Ultraviolet
Flight Of The Phoenix
Species

But there's restrictions - you can't take Pirates and The Prestige for example, and your 5th choice is going to be one crappy movie :)
Still, better than nothing, but most of these I wouldn't pay money for...

That's why they are free. I would have picked Pirates as one of the 2 first ones that come from Amizon. That would leave me with nothing left to pick.

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 06:23 AM
I'd prolly take Pirates, Full Metal Jacket, The Prestige, Superman, and Ultraviolet assuming none of those are in the same category and I'm prohibited.
It sure sounds great at first, but the value is only what you'd otherwise pay for these movies...overall, I'd say the 5 freebies are worth about $50-$60 to me, maybe. Like I said, better than nothing, but only a small consideration - not worth $150 or whatever. I might watch 3 of those movies once every 3 years. Full Metal Jacket is a fav of mine though.

GMichael
10-18-2007, 06:28 AM
I'd prolly take Pirates, Full Metal Jacket, The Prestige, Superman, and Ultraviolet assuming none of those are in the same category and I'm prohibited.
It sure sounds great at first, but the value is only what you'd otherwise pay for these movies...overall, I'd say the 5 freebies are worth about $50-$60 to me, maybe. Like I said, better than nothing, but only a small consideration - not worth $150 or whatever. I might watch 3 of those movies once every 3 years. Full Metal Jacket is a fav of mine though.

I already have Superman and a few others saved on my DVR in 1080i. As my projector's natural rez is 720p, I'm not so sure how much better the Blu-Rays will be for me (at this point).

A new projector is on my list of upgrades, but falls down the list a ways.

L.J.
10-18-2007, 06:41 AM
I'd prolly take Pirates, Full Metal Jacket, The Prestige, Superman, and Ultraviolet assuming none of those are in the same category and I'm prohibited.
It sure sounds great at first, but the value is only what you'd otherwise pay for these movies...overall, I'd say the 5 freebies are worth about $50-$60 to me, maybe. Like I said, better than nothing, but only a small consideration - not worth $150 or whatever. I might watch 3 of those movies once every 3 years. Full Metal Jacket is a fav of mine though.

Hmm...I didn't know that. Well that sucks! Most of those BR you mentioned on that list were selling for $9.99 not too long ago at Frys.com. There's also a pretty decent B1G1 sell going on at a few different sites. Mostly disney titles. Seems those 7 free, don't come up to the huge value I thought. Well I guess it's better than nothing :nonod:

GMichael
10-18-2007, 06:49 AM
Hmm...I didn't know that. Well that sucks! Most of those BR you mentioned on that list were selling for $9.99 not too long ago at Frys.com. There's also a pretty decent B1G1 sell going on at a few different sites. Mostly disney titles. Seems those 7 free, don't come up to the huge value I thought. Well I guess it's better than nothing :nonod:

The list from Amazon for the first two is pretty nice. Plenty to choose from there. Too bad the 5 from Sony fall a little short.

Groundbeef
10-18-2007, 06:49 AM
Here is some more info to confuse your purchase.

On the Nov 2nd, it looks like they are dropping the price of the 80GB to $500 from $600.

Not sure exactly what the difference is, but there must be something.

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1732325620071018

Hope that muddies the water :cornut:

Groundbeef
10-18-2007, 06:55 AM
AND you get five free movies worth from 120 to 150 dollars.
Which reduces the price of your inital outlay.
If you can show me where you can get blu-ray discs for free then I WILL BUY YOUR
ARGUMENT,
Doesnt matter what the price is for the movies and the player seperately, what matters is the outlay for the whole package:5:

No, it doesn't "reduce the price of your inital outlay". You PAY $399 + tax.

Send in coupon, and get 5 movies. Total cash outlay $399 + tax.

Now, if they sent you 5 FREE movies, and $100 cash, THEN your "total cash outlay" would be $300 and 5 movies.

This is why "Buy $100 of goods and get $25 off works so well." Consumers "spend more, to SAVE more" Its a marketing ploy, and it works pretty good.

GMichael
10-18-2007, 07:03 AM
Here is some more info to confuse your purchase.

On the Nov 2nd, it looks like they are dropping the price of the 80GB to $500 from $600.

Not sure exactly what the difference is, but there must be something.

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1732325620071018

Hope that muddies the water :cornut:

They were saying that this would happen after all the 60GB's were gone. Wonder how they'll move them now. (Bundle baby! Bundle!) Will the 80 still come in a bundle or will it be stripped down to just the console?

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 07:07 AM
Just curious - what is the value of the added storage on the PS3 (or 360 for that matter)?
If you can stream from computer to console, do you really need the drive space for anything?

GMichael
10-18-2007, 07:17 AM
Just curious - what is the value of the added storage on the PS3 (or 360 for that matter)?
If you can stream from computer to console, do you really need the drive space for anything?

From what I've read you can store pictures, movies, games (for faster loading, guess those 10 seconds are killer for some).
Other than that, it just seems to be a way to tell one version from the other.
60GB - full BC
80GB - semi BC
40GB - no BC

You can change drives in any of them to bigger fast drives. Or add external drives via USB ports.

L.J.
10-18-2007, 07:20 AM
Just curious - what is the value of the added storage on the PS3 (or 360 for that matter)?
If you can stream from computer to console, do you really need the drive space for anything?

Although I can stream to my PS3, I still store photos & some video directly on the games HD. There's also a bunch of games, demos, videos and stuff you can download onto the HD as well. Last time I checked I only had 24g left out of 60. I bunch of it are game demos though and I leave it on there for my kid to play.

I could see where it would come in handy for someone who doesn't own an external HD and wanted to store such things on there games HD.

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 07:28 AM
Although I can stream to my PS3, I still store photos & some video directly on the games HD. There's also a bunch of games, demos, videos and stuff you can download onto the HD as well. Last time I checked I only had 24g left out of 60. I bunch of it are game demos though and I leave it on there for my kid to play.

I could see where it would come in handy for someone who doesn't own an external HD and wanted to store such things on there games HD.
Next question - do external hard drives (computer type) work with either of these things? And is the ability to stream strictly one way? Or can the PS3/360 send stuff the other way too?

Think I'm gonna finally open and test out the 360 this weekend - not officially my birthday for another 6 weeks but it's killing me...not sure about he HD-DVD player though - I'm under the impression I won't be able to get any of the new audio formats out of it?

L.J.
10-18-2007, 07:56 AM
Next question - do external hard drives (computer type) work with either of these things? And is the ability to stream strictly one way? Or can the PS3/360 send stuff the other way too?

Think I'm gonna finally open and test out the 360 this weekend - not officially my birthday for another 6 weeks but it's killing me...not sure about he HD-DVD player though - I'm under the impression I won't be able to get any of the new audio formats out of it?

Not sure about the 360, but with the PS3, you can quickly add storage by plugging an external HD into one of the USB ports or popping in a new internal drive (I believe this voids the warranty, so one would want to hold onto that old drive - also I think the internal drive is a smaller notebook type).

In my setup the streaming is one way, not sure if you can send stuff. You can install other OS on the PS3, so I'm not sure what functions one would gain after doing so.

Yeah, the add-on cannot decode the new audio formats and this is why I don't own a 360. HDDVD would be my main reason for getting one.

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 08:01 AM
Not sure about the 360, but with the PS3, you can quickly add storage by plugging an external HD into one of the USB ports or popping in a new internal drive (I believe this voids the warranty, so one would want to hold onto that old drive - also I think the internal drive is a smaller notebook type).

In my setup the streaming is one way, not sure if you can send stuff. You can install other OS on the PS3, so I'm not sure what functions one would gain after doing so.

Yeah, the add-on cannot decode the new audio formats and this is why I don't own a 360. HDDVD would be my main reason for getting one.
Thanks, LJ.
I like more of the Xbox games than the PS games but that's just me - the price was a consideration as well, but I fully expect own both by the end of 2008. That was my big reason for the 360 - the on-line, streaming stuff etc is a distant second.
The PS3 holds a lot of intrigue for me as far as being a media server and blu-ray player - does the PS3 have limitations in audio processing as well? I'd love to not have to buy a blu-ray player...might get the PS3 sooner rather than later.

L.J.
10-18-2007, 08:26 AM
Thanks, LJ.
I like more of the Xbox games than the PS games but that's just me - the price was a consideration as well, but I fully expect own both by the end of 2008. That was my big reason for the 360 - the on-line, streaming stuff etc is a distant second.
The PS3 holds a lot of intrigue for me as far as being a media server and blu-ray player - does the PS3 have limitations in audio processing as well? I'd love to not have to buy a blu-ray player...might get the PS3 sooner rather than later.

The PS3 has everything covered except for DTS-MA. But I don't think any current BR player is capable of decoding this. Rumor is that DTS-MA decoding will be added to the PS3 via firmware upgrade. I'll believe it, when I see it though.

DTS-MA is not a big deal for me though. Out of the 35 or so BR I own, only 2 titles have a DTS-MA track. The "core" 1.5mbps you get is good enough to live with. The "core" track on X-men 3 is sweet!! The good news is that most releases support uncompressed PCM or DolbyTrueHD. Fox seems to be the only studio supporting DTS-MA. Throw in the SACD playback and I gotta say I'm pretty happy with the unit overall.

Now for the bad news. No analog outs. To get the full benefits of it's audio capabilities, you need a AVR with at least HDMI 1.1.

Groundbeef
10-18-2007, 08:35 AM
Thanks, LJ.
I like more of the Xbox games than the PS games but that's just me - the price was a consideration as well, but I fully expect own both by the end of 2008. That was my big reason for the 360 - the on-line, streaming stuff etc is a distant second.
The PS3 holds a lot of intrigue for me as far as being a media server and blu-ray player - does the PS3 have limitations in audio processing as well? I'd love to not have to buy a blu-ray player...might get the PS3 sooner rather than later.

Kex, tried to PM you back, but your box is full. Empty please.

kexodusc
10-18-2007, 08:46 AM
Kex, tried to PM you back, but your box is full. Empty please.
been empty for a while...

Woochifer
10-18-2007, 09:57 AM
Decisions decisions!

Now that I've found some third party applications that can stream media files to a PS3 from a Mac, I'm more tempted now to go with the PS3 rather than wait for the inevitable price tumbles on standalone Blu-ray players. While the $400 PS3 is a tempting option, its lack of backwards compatibility with PS2 games is a deal killer for me (my audio rack is crowded enough, last thing I want to do is make space for two gaming consoles)

Groundbeef
10-18-2007, 10:58 AM
Decisions decisions!

Now that I've found some third party applications that can stream media files to a PS3 from a Mac, I'm more tempted now to go with the PS3 rather than wait for the inevitable price tumbles on standalone Blu-ray players. While the $400 PS3 is a tempting option, its lack of backwards compatibility with PS2 games is a deal killer for me (my audio rack is crowded enough, last thing I want to do is make space for two gaming consoles)

I think that it still has some PS2 BW compat. Its just done with software instead of the hard chip. I have never owned a PS2 game but from what I have seen on the PS3 boards, its not a total lack of BW compat, just no chip.

musicman1999
10-18-2007, 11:56 AM
[QUOTE=pixelthis]AND you get five free movies worth from 120 to 150 dollars.
Which reduces the price of your inital outlay.
If you can show me where you can get blu-ray discs for free then I WILL BUY YOUR
ARGUMENT,
Buy a case of beer full price, get a coupon for a FREE case in a week, that reduces the price of your beer by half.

Pix
what it really does is double my supply of beer for the same amount of money.Seriously i will get the free movies but as there are only 1 or 2 that i would pay real money for it is not that big a value, and i still payed my $399.

bill

GMichael
10-18-2007, 12:01 PM
Decisions decisions!

Now that I've found some third party applications that can stream media files to a PS3 from a Mac, I'm more tempted now to go with the PS3 rather than wait for the inevitable price tumbles on standalone Blu-ray players. While the $400 PS3 is a tempting option, its lack of backwards compatibility with PS2 games is a deal killer for me (my audio rack is crowded enough, last thing I want to do is make space for two gaming consoles)

I'm pretty sure that the 40GB has 0% BC with the PS2, but will run PS1 games. The 80GB has s/w for BC that gives it about 80%. I don't know why the s/w for the 80 could not be used with the 40.

GMichael
10-18-2007, 12:20 PM
http://www.ps3news.ca/10182007/13/sony_makes_it_official_new_40gb_ps3_and_80gb_gets_ a_cut

Sony has gone and made it official quicker than we had expected -- there will be both a new 40GB PlayStation 3 model and the 80GB version will be getting a healthy price cut.

As we said earlier, this was one of the worst kept secrets in the history of gaming, but we welcome the news nonetheless. The 40GB PS3 will cost $399 US and will include Spider-Man 3 on Blu-ray. As previously reported, there will no PS2 backwards compat, with Sony claiming that the move is "reflecting the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles." Whatever that means. The 40GB bundle will be available starting November 2nd.

This is a move that can truly shakes things up in the next-gen race, and the company is hoping this kickstarts sales immediately. A quick check of Amazon shows that $399 makes it the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market, which ought to help seal the deal as well.

And if you're dead into backwards compatibility, there's always the 80GB which is priced at $499 effective immediately.

GMichael
10-18-2007, 12:34 PM
Just spoke to the wife. Looks like the price on the 80GB bundle has already been marked down to $499 at Wal-Mart as well.

Groundbeef
10-18-2007, 02:03 PM
Just spoke to the wife. Looks like the price on the 80GB bundle has already been marked down to $499 at Wal-Mart as well.

Well, that actually makes it "official". Because as we men all know, if the wife says its so.....it's so.:yesnod:

GMichael
10-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Well, that actually makes it "official". Because as we men all know, if the wife says its so.....it's so.:yesnod:


Hahahahaha She called me from there and asked me if I wanted anything. I told her yeah, I want to know what they are charging for the PS3 80GB. She wanted to buy it till I told her no. I still think that Sony will have to make deals to get rid of the rest of their 60GB units.

musicman1999
10-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Just watched my first Bluray film, Casino Royal, very impressed great picture, 1080i for me, and the 5.1 pcm is simply stunning. Connected to my Anthem by 5.1 analog hookup, it sounds amazing.Still trying to decide if i like component or HDMI for video.
Btw my coupon for the 5 free movies, says mail in by Oct 31 but also says player must be bought by Sept 30.I have heard we are getting an extension here in Canada, but have not confirmed.

bill

L.J.
10-19-2007, 06:38 AM
Just watched my first Bluray film, Casino Royal, very impressed great picture, 1080i for me, and the 5.1 pcm is simply stunning. Connected to my Anthem by 5.1 analog hookup, it sounds amazing.Still trying to decide if i like component or HDMI for video.

bill

Yes, very nice soundtrack on CR. So what's on your list of must see BR?

pixelthis
10-19-2007, 01:51 PM
No, it doesn't "reduce the price of your inital outlay". You PAY $399 + tax.

Send in coupon, and get 5 movies. Total cash outlay $399 + tax.

Now, if they sent you 5 FREE movies, and $100 cash, THEN your "total cash outlay" would be $300 and 5 movies.

This is why "Buy $100 of goods and get $25 off works so well." Consumers "spend more, to SAVE more" Its a marketing ploy, and it works pretty good.

It works quite well, because you're getting over 500$ worth of merchandise for 400 bucks
FOR that 400 bucks you're getting a player at retail for 499$, and over a hundred dollars
worth of movies.
Knock off the value of the movies and that puts the player at under 300 bucks.
This is what you are paying for the player.
This is why people do these things.
Its actually a better deal that I showed, go into most places and that player will set you back 499$, and the movies over 100$.
BUT you're only paying 400$ , and thats for a 100+ worth of movies and a player , which, when you subtract what the movies are worth comes out at less than 300 bucks.
Your argument is that the movies are worthless, which is silly.
I know you HDDVD guys are worried because the price diff is the only real advantage to buying HDDVD, and thats disapearing rapidly:1:

pixelthis
10-19-2007, 01:55 PM
Still not the same as buying a PS3 for under $300. What if you didn't want any movies?
You still paid $400.

This is the price for a MOVIE PLAYER , why would you not want any movies?
Stay off the crack pipe son:1:

musicman1999
10-19-2007, 02:57 PM
Yes, very nice soundtrack on CR. So what's on your list of must see BR?

Not sure yet, 2001 comes out next week and that might be on the list.Tonight i picked up Deva Vu and the first Pirates of the Caribean both for $26.98.It seems Disney has some Bluray on buy one and get one free.

bill

L.J.
10-19-2007, 03:10 PM
Not sure yet, 2001 comes out next week and that might be on the list.Tonight i picked up Deva Vu and the first Pirates of the Caribean both for $26.98.It seems Disney has some Bluray on buy one and get one free.

bill

Yeah I got in on that and picked up a few titles B1G1. I usually bargain hunt and find some decent prices. Pirates is easy demo matl. Give Planet Earth a try, if your into that kinda stuff. Excellent video!

Some good releases coming out over the next few months. I'm gonna end up getting myself in trouble.

pixelthis
10-23-2007, 12:26 AM
Not sure yet, 2001 comes out next week and that might be on the list.Tonight i picked up Deva Vu and the first Pirates of the Caribean both for $26.98.It seems Disney has some Bluray on buy one and get one free.

bill

2001? Getting harder and harder to resist.
BTW for those who are vexed that some great movie (like transformers) is on a deadend format like HDDVD don't worry, soon as it goes "tits up" as the brits say then it will be available in BLU RAY:lol:

Thats the diff between today and the VHS-BETA duel, back in the day movies came out in both formats , you choose which format you wanted based on real issues instead of stuff like if rocky and bullwinkle is on the one you want.
If studios were neutral this "format war" would be over yesterday and we all could get back to wasting money on collecting movies again, and they'd save a ton of money.
But thats not the real world, unfortunately:1:

GMichael
10-23-2007, 05:07 AM
This is the price for a MOVIE PLAYER , why would you not want any movies?
Stay off the crack pipe son:1:

Dude, the PS3 is a game player. Many people who buy them don't give two squats about HD movies. Also, have you seen the list of "free" movies available? I wouldn't pay a dime for most of them.
Now, I'm not saying that it's not a good deal. It's just not the same as getting a PS3 for under $300.
You should see that too. Unless that crack pipe of yours has been working overtime. Again...

GMichael
10-23-2007, 05:10 AM
The deals on the 60BG's are starting. http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5001
But still not good enough. I want to see three free items at 449.00 or I'll just go with the 80GB bundle.

pixelthis
10-25-2007, 11:08 PM
:1:
Dude, the PS3 is a game player. Many people who buy them don't give two squats about HD movies. Also, have you seen the list of "free" movies available? I wouldn't pay a dime for most of them.
Now, I'm not saying that it's not a good deal. It's just not the same as getting a PS3 for under $300.
You should see that too. Unless that crack pipe of yours has been working overtime. Again...

YOU misunderstand, I am talking about a MOVIE PLAYER, Sonys new 499$ blu ray player , which I saw on sale for 399. Who said anything about a PS3?
I wouldn't have any of that game console crap hooked up to my system.
I am a grownup.
Now, once again check the crack pipe at the door, try to stick to red dagger like a good wino while here, kay?

GMichael
10-26-2007, 05:04 AM
:1:
Who said anything about a PS3?

I did. Go back and READ my post.



:I wouldn't have any of that game console crap hooked up to my system.

The PS3 is a better BR player than most of the BR players are. Do some research.



:I am a grownup.


I see no signs of this.


:Now, once again check the crack pipe at the door, try to stick to red dagger like a good wino while here, kay


Stop trying to sleel my pipe. Use your own.

bfalls
10-26-2007, 05:30 AM
The PS3 is an excellent Blu-ray player. I work for SonyDADC and perform most of their DVD copy-protection in the US. As part of the process we have a Media Test Center which checks the compatibility of every protected DVD title which comes through the plant on as many as 100 different DVD players. The center also checks every Blu-ray title and has every Blu-ray player on the market. By far the PS3 is the fastest, best quality, most reliable player of the bunch.

I don't play games, never had the free time. I just purchased an 80GB PS3 and couldn't be happier. It's the hub of my Home Theater and provides a lot of convergence convenience (say that fast five times). I just wish Sony still had their Outlet Store so I could purchase discounted discs. Where does everyone here buy their discs?

pixelthis
10-28-2007, 11:15 PM
The PS3 is an excellent Blu-ray player. I work for SonyDADC and perform most of their DVD copy-protection in the US. As part of the process we have a Media Test Center which checks the compatibility of every protected DVD title which comes through the plant on as many as 100 different DVD players. The center also checks every Blu-ray title and has every Blu-ray player on the market. By far the PS3 is the fastest, best quality, most reliable player of the bunch.

I don't play games, never had the free time. I just purchased an 80GB PS3 and couldn't be happier. It's the hub of my Home Theater and provides a lot of convergence convenience (say that fast five times). I just wish Sony still had their Outlet Store so I could purchase discounted discs. Where does everyone here buy their discs?

NOWHERE.
I am tired of being a pioneer, especially with a device that is more evolutionary than revolutionary.
I paid 425 bucks for a DVD player with just s-vhs.
700 bucks for a HI-FI vcr with no stereo tuner because thay didnt have stereo TV back then, (ever hear of simulcasting)
AND I have a closet full of LASERDISCS
AND dont even mention SVHS (and you can double the prices due to inflation)
When the price is 200 bucks for a blu-ray (THE NEXT FORMAT) then lets talk.
AND I spit down your crack pipe "dude":1:

GMichael
10-29-2007, 05:24 AM
AND I spit down your crack pipe "dude":1:

I guess it's a good thing that I never use it.

Didn't anyone ever teach you that spitting was rude?:idea:

L.J.
10-29-2007, 05:56 AM
Where does everyone here buy their discs?

I bargain hunt and have paid about $15 or less for most of my titles. I hit up places like:

Frys.com - Just had a bunch of titles for $9.99
Deepdiscountdvd.com - 20% off sale coming soon + free shipping
Warnerbros.com - you can usually find a discount code for 20% or even 30% off + free shipping.
Amazon.com - Usually got some type of sale going

You must have just missed out on the Disney B1G1 sale going on everywhere. DVDtalk.com has a "bargains" section in there HD forums. Some good deals are usually listed there.

pixelthis
10-29-2007, 10:46 PM
I guess it's a good thing that I never use it.

Didn't anyone ever teach you that spitting was rude?:idea:

A fundamental difference between man and woman is that a man spits.
ITS my god given right to spit, daily and often, and whereever.
AND I spit on HDDVD, a soon to be obsolete "format" that will populate closets
and attics across the world, with a space reserved right next to the eight track,
the betamax, and "discovision":1:

GMichael
10-30-2007, 05:31 AM
A fundamental difference between man and woman is that a man spits.
ITS my god given right to spit, daily and often, and whereever.
AND I spit on HDDVD, a soon to be obsolete "format" that will populate closets
and attics across the world, with a space reserved right next to the eight track,
the betamax, and "discovision":1:

Why to I hear ominous music playing in the background whenever I read one of your posts? It starts soft and then builds to a thunderous roar. It always leaves me wondering.

pixelthis
10-31-2007, 12:49 AM
Why to I hear ominous music playing in the background whenever I read one of your posts? It starts soft and then builds to a thunderous roar. It always leaves me wondering.

Its the sound of REALITY , which I am the herald of.
I watched all of the above formats die, said they would die, predicted a few more would be still born (DAT and MINIDISC) AND THEY WERE.
HDDVD has the mark of the walking dead on it, I have seen this act a dozen times, know
how the show ends, the girls legs are folded up, they didnt saw her in half, she always gets up and walks off, and these misbegotten, poorly thought out devices, made with no thought as to weather or not theres a market ALWAYS DIE.
EVERYBODY, in the industry (be it computer, entertainment, etc, ) already know this.
They are standing there with arms crossed, tapping their foot, impatiently waiting for Toshiba TO GET THE MESSAGE.
Nothing to "wonder" about, really, "wonderbread":1:

pixelthis
10-31-2007, 12:56 AM
I mean, what about the waste? the incredible cost this "phoney" war is costing
that will be passed on to joe peon.
This "format war" is like the Falklands war , "two bald men fighting over a comb".
Lets get it over AND GET ON DOWN THE ROAD.
Every misguided person who buys HDDVD is prolonging the agony, letting Toshiba
slowly bleed to death, when a swift whack in the brainpan with the shovel they're going to be buried with would be much kinder.
then they could get on with what they do best, selling cheap , poorly designed
garbage with the lifespan of a fruitfly for twice what its worth:1:

GMichael
10-31-2007, 05:17 AM
Its the sound of REALITY , which I am the herald of.
I watched all of the above formats die, said they would die, predicted a few more would be still born (DAT and MINIDISC) AND THEY WERE.
HDDVD has the mark of the walking dead on it, I have seen this act a dozen times, know
how the show ends, the girls legs are folded up, they didnt saw her in half, she always gets up and walks off, and these misbegotten, poorly thought out devices, made with no thought as to weather or not theres a market ALWAYS DIE.
EVERYBODY, in the industry (be it computer, entertainment, etc, ) already know this.
They are standing there with arms crossed, tapping their foot, impatiently waiting for Toshiba TO GET THE MESSAGE.
Nothing to "wonder" about, really, "wonderbread":1:

So let me get this straight. You represent reality?

Somebody! Shoot me now!

pixelthis
11-01-2007, 11:31 PM
So let me get this straight. You represent reality?

Somebody! Shoot me now!

With a camera?
A hypo full of thorazine?
If a shotgun see peruvian , hes the one with an avatar of an ex pro wrestler packin heat

PeruvianSkies
11-04-2007, 08:12 AM
So let me get this straight. You represent reality?

Somebody! Shoot me now!

I can't believe I missed this action in here.