Bourne or Bond?

[topspeed]

I caught The Bourne Ultimatum this past week and found it lived up to the hype. I'm a big fan of the Bourne trilogy, and was completely satisfied with the closure of the series. Not as much character development as Bourne Identity, but at this juncture you have to wonder if they really need it. Everyone knows who Jason Bourne is except, well... Jason Bourne.

Ahh, but that is not the point of this poll. The question is: If you were a high powered Politico and needed some "fixing" to be done, who would you hire? Bond or Bourne? For arguments sake, let's make this the Daniel Craig version as he is the most similar to Bourne. Shoot first and all that.

Do you pick Bond, with his suave demeanor and cool toys

OR

Do you go with Bourne's Jeet Kune Do lethality and seemingly limitless skill set?

The fate of the free world rests with your decision.

[GMichael]

Jason Bourne who?

[RoyY51]

There's no way that Johnny-come-lately Bourne can compete with decades of Bond's professional mayhem. Plus, Bourne has no idea why he's doing what he's doing...Bond always knows. For King and Country!

[Rich-n-Texas]

I agree with RoyY51... again. Bond is a well established problem solver.

[PeruvianSkies]

No competition....BOND!

21 Major feature films to 3 + 1 Telefilm.

Bond is the biggest franchise in the motion picture industry spanning over 40 years with 6 different Bonds. Let's also face the fact that Bond is a major player in the marketing industry and what you see in a Bond film suddenly becomes popular...from Lotus Esprits to Walther PPK's. Despite some of the lesser Bond films, there is no doubt that you can expect great cars, funny dialogue, lots of ladies, and super action from a Bond flick!

[bobsticks]

Given the parameters of the question I probably go Bond, if only because I can see alot of sleepless nights resulting from trying to manipulate an amnesiac into believing that your goals were in his best interests. Anticipating his decisions could lead to ulcers.

Not to threadcrap but if I'm doing the dirty dance I'll take Bob Lee Swagger over both of them. Blends into crowds and why get close when you can reach out and touch somebody?

[topspeed]

Given the parameters of the question I probably go Bond, if only because I can see alot of sleepless nights resulting from trying to manipulate an amnesiac into believing that your goals were in his best interests. Anticipating his decisions could lead to ulcers. A valid consideration, without question. Clearly you understand I wasn't asking which was a better movie franchise or marketing tool, rather which is a better assassin? This isn't a popularity contest, it's a question of which spy is more capable.


Not to threadcrap but if I'm doing the dirty dance I'll take Bob Lee Swagger over both of them. Blends into crowds and why get close when you can reach out and touch somebody? I hope you're referring to the Bob Lee Swagger of Black Light and Point of Impact more than the somewhat disappointing Shooter version. I'm a big fan of Stephen Hunter novels and happen to be reading Havana right now. 47th Samurai should be interesting.

[bobsticks]

I hope you're referring to the Bob Lee Swagger of Black Light and Point of Impact more than the somewhat disappointing Shooter version. I'm a big fan of Stephen Hunter novels and happen to be reading Havana right now. 47th Samurai should be interesting.

You know it, pork.

[RoyY51]

I agree with RoyY51... again. Bond is a well established problem solver.
One possibility is that Great Minds Think Alike. The other, more logical scenario is that those of us who are raised in the South tend to have similar shared experiences, and therefore, more shared viewpoints. It's good to know that I have a kindred spirit on this forum.

Thanks for your kind comments.

Roy

[kexodusc]

I like at least 2 Bond movies better than the Bourne Trilogy, (and there's several that should never have been made), but if I needed someoen to get the job done, I'd take Jason Bourne over Bond any day. That guy is a genetic freak now.
Bond's got cooler toys, but he can't be that good or there'd be only 1 Bond.

[PeruvianSkies]

I like at least 2 Bond movies better than the Bourne Trilogy, (and there's several that should never have been made), but if I needed someoen to get the job done, I'd take Jason Bourne over Bond any day. That guy is a genetic freak now.
Bond's got cooler toys, but he can't be that good or there'd be only 1 Bond.

Agreed!

[Rich-n-Texas]

I like at least 2 Bond movies better than the Bourne Trilogy, (and there's several that should never have been made), but if I needed someoen to get the job done, I'd take Jason Bourne over Bond any day. That guy is a genetic freak now.
Bond's got cooler toys, but he can't be that good or there'd be only 1 Bond.
Richard Chamberlain played Jason Bourne back in 1988...

Bond is cold and calculating with nerves of steel.

[Rich-n-Texas]

One possibility is that Great Minds Think Alike. The other, more logical scenario is that those of us who are raised in the South tend to have similar shared experiences, and therefore, more shared viewpoints. It's good to know that I have a kindred spirit on this forum.

Thanks for your kind comments.

Roy
You're welcome. While I agree 100% with your first assesment, I have to burst your bubble about your second scenario. I wasn't raised in the south, I was raised in (now get this)... New Jersey! :cornut:

[Rich-n-Texas]

No competition....BOND!

Agreed!

Huh? Did you just do a flip-flop? :idea:

[SlumpBuster]

WTF! Am I the only one who has actually seen Moonraker? That thing stunk out loud. A bunch of the Bond movies stunk. Virtually everything from the Roger Moore era plays like a made for TV movie. "Look out! He's throwing his sharp hat at you!" "OMG! The car is submarine!" Spare me.

Another big problem with the Bond movies is that they have often tried to change with the times. Anyone else remember "safe sex Bond." Bond didn't know what to do do with himself after the real world fall of communism. Columbian drug cartels as a nemisis? Boring!

Bourne is a formidable character. So formidable that the wonderful Casino Royale owes a large gratitude to Bourne for providing the template that put Bond back on the right track. Remember when Daniel Craig was a supposedly controversial choice? Well, who woulda picked Will Hunting as a super spy?

My vote goes to Bourne. Check back after Craig has a couple more under his belt.

[dean_martin]

no poll gets by without a "you left out _____".

[SlumpBuster]

no poll gets by without a "you left out _____".


Say it with a Sammy D. drawl: Schhhweeeeeeeet, baby!

[nightflier]

I think that Bourne is much more of a JGIT kinda guy. If I had to spend big bucks on getting something done right, I'd put my money on him. Put it this way, if you pitted Bond and Bourne against each other and make, oh I duno, all of Latin America the boardgame, you know that Bourne would win in the end, especially if it came down to hand-to-hand combat. He's just a tougher kinda guy and isn't limited by that British politeness crap. Put it another way, how many people did Bourne kill in his last movie compared to Bond? And Bourne can do that with bent spoon and a paperclip, while bond would still be pushing buttons on his Inspector Gadget watch before he knew that he was dead. And in hand-to-hand combat who kicked the most a$$? That's right - it's Bourne.

Now this isn't saying that Bond isn't one tough son of a bioch. For example, getting his balls bashed wasn't pleasant, but if it came to actually surviving without balls at all (you can insert your own scenario for that), Bourne would be the more likely candidate. Heck, I could see him burned to the bone, hopping away on a bloody stump of a leg and no arms, whereas Bond wouldn't be able to deal with the fact that like that he wouldn't be getting laid anymore. No - if you want something done at any price, Bourne is your man.

Heck, a better comparison would be Jack & Bourne. Now that would be a tougher call. Not so much because he can hand Bourne a new one in a deathmatch, but he'd be more wily about it. You just can't seem to kill Jack, even if you do kill him, he somehow comes back to life.

[RoyY51]

You're welcome. While I agree 100% with your first assesment, I have to burst your bubble about your second scenario. I wasn't raised in the south, I was raised in (now get this)... New Jersey! :cornut:
OK...lets go back to scenario #1. I liked that one better anyway.

[Wireworm5]

Why have them fight each other at all, they would make one terrific tag team. You could send them into a place like Columbia and have them clean house! While you're at it bring some of the old farts out of retirement. Like Chuck Norris, Rambo, Arnie, Seagul, Clint Eastwood, etc. And if you're a really good writer you could raise our dead heros, like Bronson & Lee Marvin, guys that really knew how to use a gun. And lets not forget Bruce Lee, he can kick some serious butt.

That would be a Blockbuster movie I'd go see. :)

[kexodusc]

Why have them fight each other at all, they would make one terrific tag team. You could send them into a place like Columbia and have them clean house! While you're at it bring some of the old farts out of retirement. Like Chuck Norris, Rambo, Arnie, Seagul, Clint Eastwood, etc. And if you're a really good writer you could raise our dead heros, like Bronson & Lee Marvin, guys that really knew how to use a gun. And lets not forget Bruce Lee, he can kick some serious butt.

That would be a Blockbuster movie I'd go see. :)
Are you kidding, by definition, any film with Steven Seagal has to suck. :D


I liked reading slumpy and nightflier's posts...they took the time to spell out what I was thinking - Bourne could probably bring down the entire MI6 machine.

[Groundbeef]

Hands down, Bourne is the man. The last Bond movie didn't do it for me, and as others have pointed out quantity doesn't equal quality.

I have found Bourne to be more capable, and competent in his surroundings without the Bat Belt, and Batmobile. If I want to see Batman, I'll watch Batman Begins, not Casino Royale.

That movie reminded me of the the "Incredibles" where they talk about the enemy mastermind monologue and other cliches that are in play. I found them everywhere in Casino. It seemed like they just threw crap in to make it drag on longer. The poker game has to be one of the WORST plot lines ever.

Anyway, I think the thrust of the question is who is more capable, and I have to hand it to Bourne. He would kill Bond in an instant, revive him, and kill him again before Bond even knew what was up.

[bobsticks]

. I have found Bourne to be more capable, and competent in his surroundings without the Bat Belt, and Batmobile. If I want to see Batman, I'll watch Batman Begins, not Casino Royale.

Absolutely. I have no doubt that in almost every situation Bourne will oust Bond. His sheer inventiveness, physical prowess and resiliency would win the day.

Butt the question was who would you use to complete a "sensitive task". Bourne, because of circumstance, is not portrayed as a duty bound soldier but one who fights survival/self interest. In the given situation one would have to spend more time manipulating and worrying about his reactions as opposed to providing support (see kidnapping sequence in Kowloon for examples).

I would want someone I could count on to get in, get it done, ad get out with no drama or subplot...I also wouldn't go target shooting with a sawed-off.

[Groundbeef]

Butt the question was who would you use to complete a "sensitive task". Bourne, because of circumstance, is not portrayed as a duty bound soldier but one who fights survival/self interest. In the given situation one would have to spend more time manipulating and worrying about his reactions as opposed to providing support (see kidnapping sequence in Kowloon for examples).

I would want someone I could count on to get in, get it done, ad get out with no drama or subplot...I also wouldn't go target shooting with a sawed-off.

Well, I think that Bourne would still be your guy. The fact that he went off the reservation doesn't take away from his awesome skill set. Remeber, he was a competent, trained killer before his quest to discover WHO he really was.

I think with a given task he would out do Bond hands down.

[topspeed]

Bourne is a formidable character. So formidable that the wonderful Casino Royale owes a large gratitude to Bourne for providing the template that put Bond back on the right track. This is a very good point. When writing Casino, the producers publicly stated the new Bond was going to be more raw, a la' Bourne.



Heck, I could see him burned to the bone, hopping away on a bloody stump of a leg and no arms, I don't know why, but when I read this statement, the first thing that came to mind was this. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=u9HrinSGOvs)


Heck, a better comparison would be Jack & Bourne. Uhh...Jack?!?:confused:

I asked my wife this question and she unhesitatingly voted Bourne. She brought up a very good point regarding his mental state noting that she would want someone that couldn't really remember everything. That way she could not be implicated. True dat.

Hmmm, it's very interesting that the tide seems to flow in favor of Bourne...and yet Bond leads 6 to 4. Perhaps some of the other Double O's have voted without posting or should we count the chads?

[PeruvianSkies]

James Bond is one of the most important film franchises is movie history. If you are ignorant to that fact than shame on you.

[Groundbeef]

James Bond is one of the most important film franchises is movie history. If you are ignorant to that fact than shame on you.


And Velveeta is one of, if not THE top selling soft cheese in the world. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Hmmm, it's very interesting that the tide seems to flow in favor of Bourne...and yet Bond leads 6 to 4. Perhaps some of the other Double O's have voted without posting or should we count the chads?
No. 8 to 4. The sensible people here have voted their conscience and the others just don't feel the need to echo our sentiments. :ciappa:

[Groundbeef]

No way Bourne even comes close to what Bonds is.

Care to elaborate your outlandish claim? Bourne would eat Bond for breakfast, and probably not even break a sweat.

[PeruvianSkies]

Care to elaborate your outlandish claim? Bourne would eat Bond for breakfast, and probably not even break a sweat.

Well considering both are fictional characters that's a bit hard to determine, but if you go strictly by popularity and track record I think it's pretty obvious that Bond is far more favorable, influential, and more entertaining. You can't judge Bond on the last few Bond movies, you have to look at the broad scheme of things and 21 major motion pictures is quite a franchise to be reckoned with...can you think of any other series that have gone on this long????

[topspeed]

You're comparing ticket sales to characters. Kind of like comparing apples to the Chrysler Building. Character vs. character, I think Bourne would prevail in the end. Daniel Craig's Bond was probably the toughest of them all, even moreso than Connery's. He still didn't show me anything that could compare to Bourne's skill set (or is it "kill" set? :devil: ).

[PeruvianSkies]

You're comparing ticket sales to characters. Kind of like comparing apples to the Chrysler Building. Character vs. character, I think Bourne would prevail in the end. Daniel Craig's Bond was probably the toughest of them all, even moreso than Connery's. He still didn't show me anything that could compare to Bourne's skill set (or is it "kill" set? :devil: ).

The bottom line is that if you were to poll a bunch of people and asked them to name the best movies or series regarding espionage...the word BOND would come up long before BOURNE and BOURNE would probably even fall behind MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. I am not rating the characters as if this is some sort of celebrity death match, this is about the guts of the films. BOND has become an icon and one of the most imitated and influential series EVER created. Just think about those silhouetted Apple iPod commercials...looks rather similar to the opening credits of those Bond flicks huh? BOND is a legacy and that legacy has played out in many more opportunities and because of that fact, Bond is at this point superior to Bourne. Besides, if you were to actually compare their characters it's insane to think that Matt Damon could pull off those physical abilities, at least Bond was a bit more realistic and had better gadgets.

[Groundbeef]

BOND is a legacy and that legacy has played out in many more opportunities and because of that fact, Bond is at this point superior to Bourne. Besides, if you were to actually compare their characters it's insane to think that Matt Damon could pull off those physical abilities, at least Bond was a bit more realistic and had better gadgets.

Actually, I can't argue with the legacy of Bond. He, as you have pointed out been around much longer, and sustained himself fairly well. However I don't belive the OP was polling for that...it really wouldn't make much sense to do that. I think the OP was asking who was the better (and perhaps more deadly) character.

If that was the OP's intent, Bourne is much better, and frankly more competent in his profession. Bond would be lost without his special equipment (think Batman). Bourne relies more on the materials available in his enviornment (Think hardcover book...priceless).

As far as physical action, I think both characters exceed actual physical limits, but its still a hoot to watch.

[nightflier]

I can't believe everybody is so hung up on the Bond legacy, movie sales figures, and the Bond flair. The question was quite simple: if you needed a "difficult" job done, who would most likely come through?

It's Bourne. He has more whoop-a$$ then the new Bond.

And if you musty wine and yammer about legacy, then compare Bond after three movies, 'cause that's all we have of Bourne. That would put you back to 1964 with Goldfinger. I doubt that even a young Connery could even get out the door before Bourne would be done with the job.

Not fair? OK, then compare the new Bond to Bourne after the first movie, I'd still say Bourne would be the better bet, hands down.

'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.

[PeruvianSkies]

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And if you musty wine and yammer about legacy, then compare Bond after three movies, 'cause that's all we have of Bourne. That would put you back to 1964 with Goldfinger. I doubt that even a young Connery could even get out the door before Bourne would be done with the job.

'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.

Ok, and then go back to 1964 and see how big of a buzz Bond was. You see, Bourne is new and current and so it's not uncommon for the new trick in town to be popular and everyone ride on the bandwagon, but let's move ahead to the year 2050 and see if Bourne is just as popular as Dr. NO, GOLDFINGER, and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE still are...they are still one of the best selling DVD's on the market...hands down.

[Wireworm5]

Bond has the ability to think on his feet. There were times when brute force wasn't going to save his ass, and his gadgets got him out of the tight situation. Bourne without gadgets in these same situations is a dead duck!
Not only that but Bond can do almost anything from flying jet fighters and tanks to seducing women to pump valuable information from them. And Bond is very lucky, he always finds an out that would be certain death for anyone else.
Head to head in a fight Bourne would probably win, but Bond is much more resourceful. This attribute makes him much more dangerous that Bourne, IMO.

[PeruvianSkies]

Bond has the ability to think on his feet. There were times when brute force wasn't going to save his ass, and his gadgets got him out of the tight situation. Bourne without gadgets in these same situations is a dead duck!
Not only that but Bond can do almost anything from flying jet fighters and tanks to seducing women to pump valuable information from them. And Bond is very lucky, he always finds an out that would be certain death for anyone else.
Head to head in a fight Bourne would probably win, but Bond is much more resourceful. This attribute makes him much more dangerous that Bourne, IMO.

Well said!

[Smokey]

'Cmon people, answer the question and vote accordingly.

Looks like they did. Bond is ahead 2 to 1 :D

I think one thing that might have got over looked about the Bond is "charm" of his character. I have not seen any of Bourne movies, but I don't think he will win over Bond as far as charm factor is concerned.

The most charming Bond was Roger Moore.

[PeruvianSkies]

Looks like they did. Bond is ahead 2 to 1 :D

I think one thing that might have got over looked about the Bond is "charm" of his character. I have not seen any of Bourne movies, but I don't think he will win over Bond as far as charm factor is concerned.

The most charming Bond was Roger Moore.

Any movie that can make the crossbow cool again (a la FOR YOUR EYES ONLY) is certainly a film worthy to remember! Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.

[Smokey]

Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.

Speaking of Bond theme songs, who can forget Shirley Bassey's "Gold Finger", Duran Duran's "A View To Kill" or Sheryl Crow's "Tomorrow Never Dies."

I just downloaded all three [mp3] songs, for free :ciappa:

[PeruvianSkies]

Speaking of Bond theme songs, who can forget Shirley Bassey's "Gold Finger", Duran Duran's "A View To Kill" or Sheryl Crow's "Tomorrow Never Dies."

I just downloaded all three [mp3] songs, for free :ciappa:

Absolutely! Someone already commented on how we are 'hung up on the legacy of Bond' but I don't really think that anyone can accurate argue the vitality of this character. Not only that, but it's influence has spread far and wide and the Bond movies became an 'event' to behold. Now the more recent ones have failed to live up to the standards of the Bond franchise, but for the most part, the Bond movies are just flat-out non-stop entertainment. The films also had some of the best production value with loads of money on-screen, which is rarely experienced today. Rest assure that when it came to Bond top dollar was being spent and put on the screen. Action sequences, exotic automobiles, and top performances, plus the theme songs, which were always done by some of the best acts around. These have become the cornerstone of the Bond franchise.

Again, it's hard to compare the actual two figures if they were to 'rumble' and such because the various Bond actors were all different and we don't have much to go on. Plus, we are also talking about 40+ years of Bond, which also means that technology has changed drastically too, and it's interesting that many of the Bond gadgets are now everyday devices.

Bourne is here and now...high entertainment and all, but Bond is legendary, classic, and one of the most influential, imitated, and memorable film characters of all time.

Then again I am a huge Bond fan, so maybe I am biased, but I think that I have presented my case fairly well looking at all the facts.

Here is a graphic to justify the coolness of Bond and the iconic nature of the hero.

http://www.desktop-designz.com/wallpapers/directory/james_bond_007/1/images/040.jpg

[nightflier]

Any movie that can make the crossbow cool again (a la FOR YOUR EYES ONLY) is certainly a film worthy to remember! Not only that, but think about the great Bond theme songs and actors that were catapulted into careers from this legacy.

How exactly does this answer the question of the original post? This is exactly what I'm talking about. The movie franchise, the fancy cars, script-written luck, the pop songs, the box office successes, crossbows, a picture of a woman's silhouette - how will any of these things affect how successful Bond will be on the job? Nothing. And don't get me started on the cool gadgets - that's exactly why Bourne would succeed because he can kill with a book or a pen whereas bond needs a button to push.

I'm not a bond-hater, folks. I own every single one of Flemming's novels, including a biography of the man. But let's be honest: who would be more resourceful with less? Who is stronger, faster, and smarter? Who is able to outsmart not just the bad guys but also the good guys? Who doesn't make mistakes? That's right - it's Bourne.

So Bond has prettier chicks, you say? How will hat help him get the job done? He has a more expensive car? That will be a detriment on city streets, where a beat-up Fiat will go much further. He's better looking and wears nicer clothes? How will that help him blend in? I wonder how long Bond would last with all of MI6 was on his a$$. Bourne lasted three films, with a 4th on the way.

Let's call a spade a spade, folks.

[PeruvianSkies]

I caught The Bourne Ultimatum this past week and found it lived up to the hype. I'm a big fan of the Bourne trilogy, and was completely satisfied with the closure of the series. Not as much character development as Bourne Identity, but at this juncture you have to wonder if they really need it. Everyone knows who Jason Bourne is except, well... Jason Bourne.

Ahh, but that is not the point of this poll. The question is: If you were a high powered Politico and needed some "fixing" to be done, who would you hire? Bond or Bourne? For arguments sake, let's make this the Daniel Craig version as he is the most similar to Bourne. Shoot first and all that.

Do you pick Bond, with his suave demeanor and cool toys

OR

Do you go with Bourne's Jeet Kune Do lethality and seemingly limitless skill set?

The fate of the free world rests with your decision.

This is such a difficult question because you are limiting Bond by only one film, despite the fact that there is an entire franchise 21-strong and such. Therefore, limiting this to just the most recent Bond vs. the Bourne films (3-total and 1 telefilm) certainly makes for controversy, which has already ensued.

Obviously both are fictional characters and this is a hypothetical question in which no one could possibly be right or wrong and there are too many factors to consider to come to any conclusion other than just a flat out opinion, to which most people at this point still prefer Bond, according to our trusty poll.

Let's also not forget that CASINO ROYALE is the young James Bond, who is not nearly as experienced as our latter-day Bonds, which also limit his abilities as well. So again, there are just too many factors to really come up with a true winner, but on preference and opinion alone...I am sticking with Bond. Also, a great video game!

[topspeed]

It's unfortunate that only a few people actually caught the gist of the poll, although I certainly can't argue with the ensuing debate. At least it got y'all talking, which is the point of a forum, isn't it :).

To be clear, this isn't about legacy, ticket sales, or which Bond is best. I choose the latest Bond simply because he was the most competitive with Bourne. Moore's, Dalton's, and Brosnan's Bond simply weren't as tough as Craig's.

If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position.

Not sell the most movie tickets.

Not drive the most exotic car.

Not nail the hottest chick.

See, it's not that hard.

[PeruvianSkies]

It's unfortunate that only a few people actually caught the gist of the poll, although I certainly can't argue with the ensuing debate. At least it got y'all talking, which is the point of a forum, isn't it :).

To be clear, this isn't about legacy, ticket sales, or which Bond is best. I choose the latest Bond simply because he was the most competitive with Bourne. Moore's, Dalton's, and Brosnan's Bond simply weren't as tough as Craig's.

If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position.

Not sell the most movie tickets.

Not drive the most exotic car.

Not nail the hottest chick.

See, it's not that hard.

Right the question isn't hard, but it's almost like asking us to forget everything we know about Bond to answer the question....kinda like asking someone to forget what the color orange looks like. Make sense?

[Rich-n-Texas]

I don't want to sound like PS's "yes man", but things like the Bond legacy weighed heavily in my vote. I agree with him that it's hard to rule out that type of influence from the equation.

And just to prove I'm not his Yes Man... PS, try to trim down the pic's before you post them okay? I hate scrolling left-n-right!

[PeruvianSkies]

I don't want to sound like PS's "yes man", but things like the Bond legacy weighed heavily in my vote. I agree with him that it's hard to rule out that type of influence from the equation.

And just to prove I'm not his Yes Man... PS, try to trim down the pic's before you post them okay? I hate scrolling left-n-right!

It doesn't fit on your screen? That's odd. It fits on mine...17" laptop...I think the image was around 500X500 pix...that's not huge!

[bobsticks]

If you've seen Casino Royal and any of the Bourne Trilogy, the question isn't as difficult as you make it out to be. Based on the skills that you've seen, which one would you choose to clean up a mess if you were such a position..


Which is why I reiterate that if left to a choice between the two I would take Bond(Craig) but would really rather find an alternative.

[PeruvianSkies]

Just like most polls around these parts...this sucker has exceded it's life expectancy and now seems to be dry as can be. Just wanted to check and see if there might be any last minute votes...if not BOND WINS.....go home Bourne Losers! Get it....

LIVE AND LET DIE BABY!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.impawards.com/1973/posters/live_and_let_die_ver1.jpg


One of the greatest chase scenes EVER....

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[thekid]

If I needed to kick someone's a** - Bourne
If I need someone to find a piece of a**-Bond

:)

[jim goulding]

Given the history, Bond. The best being No and Russia. That was Bond at his coolest and most deadly. Then we had to suffer the Roger Moore years. Bourne on the other hand is more of the anti hero and the action is more entertaining with the latest Bond rivaling. I dig Bourne on it's own. Here's a question for ya? Which came first . . Bourne or The Shield? I'm refering to the many locations, the hand held cameras, the pace of the editing. The people responsible for The Sheild must work there asses off 24/7 putting that show together. It moves like Bourne. And the writers all year long. All kinds of supporting actors and plots and sub plots. That cat that plays the guy who killed Lem deserves the Emmy for those episodes that followed where he was wrestling with his guilt and then coming to terms with himself and facing off with Mackey.

I think this is the gutiest show on the tube, ever, but it's pretty hard to take. Ain't no heroes here.

Lastly, I think that Julia Stiles is more interesting than any Bond girl, save maybe for Fatima Blush. Looking forward to seeing her reprise Nicki in a bigger role.

[PeruvianSkies]

I don't see why people have such a hard time with Roger Moore. I mean, in my opinion, films like MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, LIVE AND LET DIE, MOONRAKER, and FOR YOUR EYES ONLY really helped carry the Bond series into new territory. We have a blaxploitation-styled Bond, a space Bond, and I think these films help keep Bond diverse and interesting. You can't just keep doing the same things. Although the Bond film that I truly love is ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, which I like not because of the Bond character, but I love the feel of that film. It's very unique and Diana Rigg is awesome in that film, plus it's probably the darkest of any of the Bond films.

There is something about the film FOR YOUR EYES ONLY though that really impresses me and I could watch this film a billion times and never get tired of it. I don't know why, just a great film. I suppose part of it has to do with the 'essence' that this Bond really captures the 80's so well. I think the ski-chase scene is one of the best out of any of the films and the Lotus' are awesome too! There are also some great underwater sequences (even if they are fake) and the newly restored DVD looks amazing!

I think everyone deserves to revisit these films after the most recent restoration and the improved soundtracks. I use to debate with an old friend of mine all the time about Bond and he never really cared for the films, then I found out that 1. he only saw about half of them (and not the good half either) and 2. he only saw them in P&S versions on regular TV with commercials and edited for time, plus cropped to death! Then I finally showed him LIVE AND LET DIE on DVD and he was blown away! He loved the New Orleans scenes, as do I.

[jim goulding]

It's just that Connery was so tough to follow. He was suave in a real masculine way.

I almost mentioned that Eyes was the best of the Moore's. And Carol Bouquet the most beautiful of the Bond girls of the day. Fatima Blush was just for fun.