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L.J.
06-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Well, I'm starting my search for an AVR and the Onkyo 805 is the first up. Here are my initial thoughts.

A Few Specs: (Copied from an AVS thread, yes I'm lazy)

*Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (3 in 1 out)
*HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
*Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (100 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
*WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
*Faroudja DCDi
*Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Acoustics Correction
*7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
*DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, DD+, TrueHD
*DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO:6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
*THX Ultra2 Certified
*Burr-Brown 192/24-bit DAC on all Channels (TI Architecture (PCM1796))
*S-Video (6 in 1 out)
*Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3; OUT (OPT) 1
*Composite (6 in 1 out)
*7.1 Preouts
*Power 130W/Ch
*Powered Zone 2 with Balance Volume and tone control
*Powered Zone 3
*Bi-Amp Capable
*XM and Sirius ports
*XM HD Surround Sound through Neural Surround
*RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) communication protocol
*Upconversion and Upscaling Information
a. Analog transcoding
Takes native composite & S-video streams and transcodes through Component Video Out
b. Digital processing
Takes a native composite, S-video, component video and outputs to HDMI Out @ 720p
c. Deinterlacing & Up-Scaling
Takes a 480i & 480p native video stream and outputs to HDMI Out @ 720p
d. 720p, 1080i and 1080p capabilities
Takes a 720p or 1080i or 1080p native digital video stream and passes these through to HDMI Out.

First Look:

Well first off, this unit is a monster coming in at about 51 pounds. A lot larger and heavier than my 2805 but loses in the looks dept. My wife thinks it looks OK so that's a good thing I guess. This unit has an individual button for each available input. I kinda like the source knob on my Denon but these are small things I can live with.

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/580/x580TXS805B-f.jpeg

Set Up:

Set up was a breeze. Since my unit is sitting on top of my wall unit it was just a simple matter of popping in all the connections and facing the unit foward. The back of this unit is spaced out pretty well and the use of banana plugs made my life that much easier. Be warned, this unit only has 2 optical inputs in the back and the 3rd is in the front. Good news is it sports 3 coaxial to go along with them. Not a big deal for me.

I'm running my PS3 via HDMI, my 2910 via HDMI/optical and my cable tv runs directly to my TV via HDMI/optical to AVR. Well after the connections were complete I gave Audyssey a run (I measured from 3 seating locations but I think you can do as many as 6) and was ready to go. More on Audyssey later.

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/580/x580TXS805B-b.jpeg

Testing/Settings:

HDMI switching works like a charm and everything was fine. OSD is easy to navigate through and is output via HDMI. It only took a couple of minutes to make sure my video sources would pass thru untouched and everything was in sync. Played some tunes, a BR, a DVD, SACD......well you get it. Everything was hooked up correctly and was working properly with no problems.

Audyssey:

Ok back to Audyssey. After I ran my auto setup, Audyssey had all my speakers set to full band. I said what the heck and gave it try and it sounded like crap. Went back in and changed my xover to 80 for each speaker (you can run individual xover for each speaker), pulled out my SPL meter and gave my levels a check. If anyone remembers my 2805 had trouble running auto setup in my large room but Audyssey had my distances and levels right on. Not bad.

I have to say that Audyssey does exactly as advertised. Changing seating position did not dramatically change the sound. It was very uniform.

Sound:

I noticed an immediate difference in sound compared to my 2805. The sound was smooth and fuller. I heard details in music I haven't heard before. There was definately an improvement in bass response as well. My wife noticed this also. Dialog comes in crystal clear and can be heard easily at low volumes. I turned Audyssey off and gave it try with no EQ engaged. The sound was still good, but lightened up a little and sounded similar to my 2805 (I ran my 2805 with no room EQ). I put the Audyssey back on and have left it that way. I will try to do some measurements this weekend because I'm very curious to see what's going on with my lower freq. I also wanna do some more tweaking.

Uncompressed Audio:

For my first uncompressed PCM experience I put on POTC 1. This was some of the best video I have seen from BR so far. Demo matl easily. Anyways, back to sound. The sound was freakin' amazing. It was just seamless throughout the room. Very deep and smooth. Too much detail to talk about, but it wasn't overwhelming. Bass filled my room nicely. This has been some of the best sound I've heard from my system.

The Remote:

The remote is almost identical to the remote that came with my Onkyo 603 so I was able to just pick it up and start using it no problem. It's large but has a nice button layout and fits in your hand nicely. It's also backlit and has 3 macro buttons. The only problem I have is that once you put in new batteries you loose all setting and have to reprogram it :idea:

My wife was just getting use to the Denon remote and is completely lost again so I may be getting an 880 soon.

The Bad:

Well I had to come up with something. This unit takes about a second and a half longer to process incoming signals than my Denon. When flipping through HD channels and the signal changes from DD to DD stereo, you get a slight pause before sounds comes on.

When going from HD to SD video on a BR disc (I guess the warnings and some previews are in SD) you get a similar pause, some clicking going on while the unit switches back and fourth and sometimes a slight popping sound from the speakers. This is mentioned by Onkyo in a paper packed with the unit and they state this is normal, not a malfunction.

The unit get very hot.

Not real problems but I had to list something.

Final Thoughts:

This unit is very solid and does everything it is advertised to do. For the price of $899 this one will be hard to beat considering the amount of features this baby comes packed with. I had also considered the Denon 3808 which comes out in about a month. But with a MSRP of $1599, the Onkyo is gonna be extremely hard to beat. This one may be keeper. I have 3 more weeks to decide.

GMichael
06-14-2007, 11:13 AM
Seems like a great unit at that price.

Rich-n-Texas
06-14-2007, 02:28 PM
Thanks for taking the time to share all this useful info with us L.J. :thumbsup:

Would you mind too much sharing some money with me? :yesnod:

L.J.
06-14-2007, 03:00 PM
Thanks for taking the time to share all this useful info with us L.J. :thumbsup:

No problem




Would you mind too much sharing some money with me? :yesnod:

Umm you gotta talk to my wife about that one. I had a hard enough time explaining HDMI and uncompressed audio to her.

On the plus side, she hates the remotes and is tired of asking me to turn things on for her. This opened up the door for a 880 :ihih:

bobsticks
06-14-2007, 04:48 PM
What a unit (as it were). The processing abilities and the DACs alone make this a worthy contender for anybody's system. Hey, for those of us too lazy to look at the other thread, is this the unit with the lowest wattage and all the bells and whistles? Oviously, for me, the Mac isn't going anywhere and I might even get another one so amplification isn't really an issue. No need to pay for watts that I'll never use.

Thanks for taking the time L.J.; as usual, you're the man.

L.J.
06-14-2007, 05:21 PM
What a unit (as it were). The processing abilities and the DACs alone make this a worthy contender for anybody's system. Hey, for those of us too lazy to look at the other thread, is this the unit with the lowest wattage and all the bells and whistles? Oviously, for me, the Mac isn't going anywhere and I might even get another one so amplification isn't really an issue. No need to pay for watts that I'll never use.

Thanks for taking the time L.J.; as usual, you're the man.

Off the top of my head I would say that the 805 offers BB DACs, better build quality and more advanced room correction abilities over the 605/705. Maybe a higher THX certification and more control over the 2nd/3rd zone. Oops, I think an extra HDMI input as well. I'm sure I'm missing something else though.

I don't think the 605 can apply DPIIx to MCPCM. The 705 has not been confirmed since it isn't out yet. Bass management of MCPCM may be an issue with the lower models as well as well.

Rich-n-Texas
06-14-2007, 05:24 PM
I'm proud of you L.J. Not only are you able to out smart your wife but even your kids can't match witts with you (ref: the previous hide-the-remote discussion). You're a man's man. :cornut:

I'm just blown away by that back panel! One thing I am curious about though is the speaker banana jack color-coding. Is that a standard, or is it just particular to Onkyo's AVR's?

L.J.
06-14-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm proud of you L.J. Not only are you able to out smart your wife but even your kids can't match witts with you (ref: the previous hide-the-remote discussion). You're a man's man. :cornut:

I try :ihih:


I'm just blown away by that back panel! One thing I am curious about though is the speaker banana jack color-coding. Is that a standard, or is it just particular to Onkyo's AVR's?

Onkyo provides color coded labels that match the speaker inputs. It makes for a very easy install, especially if your behind a cabinet or something.

PAT.P
06-14-2007, 06:44 PM
Thanks for your review ,looks like a beast:yikes:

kelsci
06-15-2007, 09:53 AM
Great review L.J. That back panel really looks well laid out You really get soup to nuts with that $899 price. Nice that everything worked well out of the box. It appears Onkyo has thought out the ergonomics well on this unit.

westcott
06-16-2007, 05:14 AM
Thanks for taking time to share your thoughts.

I have been recommending the Onkyo's lately because they are HD Audio capable and support HDMI 1.3a but I am relieved to hear that they also sound good.

I think you made a great decision and it sounds like you are one of the few that actually plans for the future. I can not tell you how many people have not even considered HD audio and are spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars of new receivers without support for it.

Good to see some people like you are doing their homework.

You get five gold stars and go to the front of the line for recess!!!

AVMASTER
06-16-2007, 01:52 PM
great review L.J., I'm still waiting on my shipment with 3 units sold sight unseen! Onkyo claims I'll see them the end of this month. I shall assume you're on the west coast? Who did you get if from?

L.J.
06-17-2007, 07:35 AM
Thanks for your thoughts everyone. I think Onkyo really stepped it up this year and these units are gonna be very hard to beat for the price. I'm gonna have a hard time taking this baby back, IF I decide to go that route. CC has the 805 listed for $839. The 605 is going for only $399.

AVMASTER,

Yes I'm in Cali. I picked mine up at Circuit City. Although it showed "not in stock" on their website I gave them a call to ask when they would get some units in and they just had unloaded 2 off the truck.

Rich-n-Texas
06-17-2007, 08:09 AM
When you say:


OSD is easy to navigate through and is output via HDMI.
Does that mean On Screen Display, for which you can use an external high rez display to output the AVR's setup instructions and such? That would certainly be the answer to one of my "perfect AVR" prayers.

This Audyssey feature sounds similar to Yamaha's YPAO sound field setup feature only 10 times better. I know you already have your acoustic treatments in place but at what level do you think Audyssey will tolerate room acoustics before it *gives up*? In other words, I wonder if you can run the setup, add a panel if the setup results don't sound right, run setup, add another panel, ... etc. Know what I mean?

L.J.
06-17-2007, 09:09 AM
When you say:

Does that mean On Screen Display, for which you can use an external high rez display to output the AVR's setup instructions and such? That would certainly be the answer to one of my "perfect AVR" prayers.

Yup.


This Audyssey feature sounds similar to Yamaha's YPAO sound field setup feature only 10 times better. I know you already have your acoustic treatments in place but at what level do you think Audyssey will tolerate room acoustics before it *gives up*? In other words, I wonder if you can run the setup, add a panel if the setup results don't sound right, run setup, add another panel, ... etc. Know what I mean?

I plan on doing some measurements because I'm curious just how good Audyssey is as well. My understanding is that most auto cal setups do a decent job with the higher freq but not so well with the low. The Audyssey does a very good job at smoothing things out and providing very seamless playback but I would assume the less work it has to do in your room the better. I plan on running it a few more times to see if the results are consistant. Not sure how accurate my results would be if I didn't have any room treatments because I had some really bad echo going on. I was suprised that Audyssey set all my speakers to "large" because this is the same behavior my Denon's auto setup was notorious for.

Rich-n-Texas
06-18-2007, 07:19 AM
Yup.
Either I'm living in the stone age or I don't have my sights set high enough.:rolleyes5:

My current receiver is a b!tch to set up when I'm sitting in my listening position because of the viewing angle as well as the dim front panel. OTOH if I used Audyssey to set up, that would pretty much make that predicament a moot point huh?



I plan on doing some measurements because I'm curious just how good Audyssey is as well.
Thanks. I'm sure there are a LOT of people besides me interested to see how the tests go.



My understanding is that most auto cal setups do a decent job with the higher freq but not so well with the low. The Audyssey does a very good job at smoothing things out and providing very seamless playback but I would assume the less work it has to do in your room the better. I plan on running it a few more times to see if the results are consistant. Not sure how accurate my results would be if I didn't have any room treatments because I had some really bad echo going on. I was suprised that Audyssey set all my speakers to "large" because this is the same behavior my Denon's auto setup was notorious for.
Excellent idea professor! Thanks again. :thumbsup:

L.J.
06-22-2007, 07:49 AM
Well it seems I was too easy on this unit with my first impressions. Don't get me wrong, this is a nice unit with some very sweet features, but what I brushed off as "not real problems" are starting to get on my nerves.

I highlighted the word "slight" because this was my first impression, but after spending some time with this unit, my thoughts have changed a little.


My initial thoughts on the pause you get while changing channels:

This unit takes about a second and a half longer to process incoming signals than my Denon. When flipping through HD channels and the signal changes from DD to DD stereo, you get a slight pause before sounds comes on.

I was not too concerned about this at first because I run my cable tv directly to my display so much of our cable viewing is done using the tv's speakers. I also run a optical cable to my avr just in case I wanna turn my system on while viewng tv. I did some more viewing and sometimes that "slight" pause can take about 3 to 4 seconds before sound pops back on. This may not be a deal breaker but I could see this becoming very annoying if you run your cable directly to avr and used it for all tv viewing.


My initial thoughts on the speaker popping issue:

When going from HD to SD video on a BR disc (I guess the warnings and some previews are in SD) you get a similar pause, some clicking going on while the unit switches back and fourth and sometimes a slight popping sound from the speakers. This is mentioned by Onkyo in a paper packed with the unit and they state this is normal, not a malfunction.

This is the deal breaker for me. The popping doesn't seem to be getting worse, but is happening more frequently. It has to be related to MCPCM because it only happens when using my PS3. Although Onkyo says this is not a malfunction I just don't like it. Onkyo says this will happen sometimes while watching some BR or HDDVD discs, but it has also happened occasionally while:
1. Turning inputs on my display
2. Turning my PS3 on
3. Turning my PS3 off
4. Playing PS3 games that support MCPCM
5. Playing BR disc

The popping sound is faint and comes from the front or rear speakers. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens enough. There is a 605/805 popping thread over at AVS and some are saying they haven't experienced this so maybe I got a bad unit. I really like this unit and would consider keeping it but these issues are enough to make me keep looking. I'm hoping that the next model up (Onkyo 875) or it's cousin (Integra 7.8) will not have these issues. I may pick up a 2nd unit in hopes that I just happened to get a bad one.

I would suggest that if your interested, give this model an audition. It's available at Circuit City and they have an excellent return policy. Many have decided these issues are not a big deal.

kelsci
06-22-2007, 09:07 AM
LJ; If you have the time and patience, you should pick up a 2nd unit. There is no reason for you to be stuck with a defective unit that is brand new.

Rich-n-Texas
06-22-2007, 10:56 AM
Actually he's just auditioning this particular receiver, so he's not really *stuck* with it. For me it would more be a case of whether or not to be patient enough to try again with another of the same model.

L.J.
06-22-2007, 12:06 PM
Actually he's just auditioning this particular receiver, so he's not really *stuck* with it. For me it would more be a case of whether or not to be patient enough to try again with another of the same model.

Yeah I'll probably give it a 2nd chance.

Before I purchased my 2910, I gave a Samsung universal player a try (can't remember the model #). I liked it alot but had major problems with it. I went through 3 units before I finally gave up.

I'm glad it didn't work out though, because I would have never ended up going with the 2910 :ihih:

kelsci
07-01-2007, 09:34 AM
A C-Net newsletter that I received Friday informed me that they will have a review of the Onkyo 605 next Friday. It should be interesting.

L.J.
07-01-2007, 02:23 PM
A C-Net newsletter that I received Friday informed me that they will have a review of the Onkyo 605 next Friday. It should be interesting.

Thanks for the heads up. It should be very interesting. BTW I just picked up that 2nd 805 yesterday, hooked it up this morning and it has the exact same issues as the 1st one. Onkyo has dropped some very strong units but they just seem to be plagued with minor issues that some may not want to live with.

kelsci
07-01-2007, 05:20 PM
Hi L.J.; It would be interesting if C-Net picks up some of the things on their test of the 605 that you are having on the 805. At least you now know it was not just your first unit. It is a pain in the ass to perform trial and error quality control experements but in this case it is warranted since your unit is so fully equipped for now and the immediate future for high definition audio and video.

bobsticks
07-01-2007, 06:36 PM
So what's next on the audition list, L.J.? The 875? I/we appreciate you being the guinea pig for us all :biggrin5:

Seriously, I do appreciate you taking the time to post your findings as, at some point, I will be looking to upgrade my processing power and probably would have gone with this unit based on previous experience with Onkyo. I guess I find this a truly revoltin' development.

Lead on, McDuff.

L.J.
07-02-2007, 07:19 AM
Hi L.J.; It would be interesting if C-Net picks up some of the things on their test of the 605 that you are having on the 805. At least you now know it was not just your first unit. It is a pain in the ass to perform trial and error quality control experements but in this case it is warranted since your unit is so fully equipped for now and the immediate future for high definition audio and video.

605 owners have noted the same issues. AVS has a 605/805 speaker popping poll going on and it does seem that there are some units out there that don't have this issue. I'd like to add again though that it is clearly stated by Onkyo that this may happen and it's not considered a defect (ya gotta love that).

kexodusc
07-02-2007, 08:08 AM
I find it odd that Onkyo wouldn't expect the popping noise to be something of a deterrent for many potential customers, whether it affects performance or not isn't really the issue. Whether it could bother people, or scare them off is.
Just a bit weird. It'll be interesting to see if its successor model has the same noise.

L.J.
07-02-2007, 08:22 AM
So what's next on the audition list, L.J.? The 875? I/we appreciate you being the guinea pig for us all :biggrin5:

Seriously, I do appreciate you taking the time to post your findings as, at some point, I will be looking to upgrade my processing power and probably would have gone with this unit based on previous experience with Onkyo. I guess I find this a truly revoltin' development.

Lead on, McDuff.

Maybe the 875 & Denon 3808. Not sure when Yamaha is gonna step up with the 1800/2800 or whatever they're gonna be. The 875 & 3808 can be preordered at JR for $1299 right now. Your looking at another month (maybe less if all goes well) before these are available. My only concern though is paying for a bunch of features I just won't use.

I picked up my 2nd 805 for $700. Now I'm really gonna be in a tight spot trying to find something else. Not sure if I wanna jump up $600 to rid myself of this minor speaker popping annoyance and a bunch of features I'll never use. I have another month to decide.

brulaha
07-02-2007, 08:25 AM
$700??? where? CC was down to $850, but they are back up to $989.

L.J.
07-02-2007, 08:43 AM
$700??? where? CC was down to $850, but they are back up to $989.

CC had a sale Saturday morning. The unit was on sale $839 (second time they've had it this low) and there was a $50 off code you could use online taking the price down to $789. I purchased online and when I did my pickup I used a 10% off coupon (http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/genericContent.do?oid=156372&WT.mc_n=452967&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=AFFILIATE%20MARKETING&cm_cat=PERFORMICS&cm_pla=AFFILIATE%20WEEKLY%20NEWSLETT->HOLIDAY&cm_ite=185599%2020070701_SPECIAL%20AFFILIATE%20COU PON:%2010%%20OFF%20SELECT%20TV'S%20$500%20%20WITH% 20COUPON%20CODE%20). Total came to $711. Rumor is that another sale is supposed to happen on the 4th.

kelsci
07-07-2007, 06:46 AM
Hi forum members; I made a post last week that Cnet would have a review on the 605. They did not review the unit on their weekly newsletter lastnight. I have no idea why. They did review the Sony 810 which was rated average but did comment that the 605 is a better buy for what it featured. Hopefully they should have the review of the 605 up shortly. Customers have been writing in their opinions of owning the unit. Those have averaged an 8.9 out of 10 equipvalent to an excellent.

L.J.
07-11-2007, 06:16 PM
That 605 review (http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sr605-black/4505-6466_7-32430579.html?tag=cnetfd.mt) is finally available. Not a bad buy, especially if you can catch it on sale at CC. They had it down to $349 and you could have used a 10% off coupon on top of that :yikes:

kelsci
07-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Hi L.J.; note that the review did not address the issue you were having with your receiver.
Also of note is that even though the receiver possesses a decoder for the high definition audio tracks, the players do not possess encoders to send that via bitstream over a hdmi cable. This audio thing has really been goofy to me and confusing. I also think thay John Q. Public has been screwed around with bigtime with this whole audio business. I also think that the video conversion taking place in this reciever as well as others has been quite goofy as well. CNET felt the receiver as competent though and a good unit for future proofing and a downright reasonable price which I think is true.

L.J.
07-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Hi L.J.; note that the review did not address the issue you were having with your receiver.

Based on the 605/805 speaker popping thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=859792&page=1&pp=30) over at AVS, about 30% of those that voted (a little over 200) has this issue. Oh, but wait, according to Onkyo this is normal :crazy:

This seems to be less of an issue with my 2nd unit but it does still happen. Lately I've just kept the sound on mute until the movie starts. No biggie. It only happens with MC PCM so I don't have to bother with it all the time but it is annoying. The question isssss...do I wanna spend almost twice the amount to rid myself of this :arf:

Call me crazy but I may pick up a 3rd unit and see what happens.



Also of note is that even though the receiver possesses a decoder for the high definition audio tracks, the players do not possess encoders to send that via bitstream over a hdmi cable. This audio thing has really been goofy to me and confusing. I also think thay John Q. Public has been screwed around with bigtime with this whole audio business. I also think that the video conversion taking place in this reciever as well as others has been quite goofy as well. CNET felt the receiver as competent though and a good unit for future proofing and a downright reasonable price which I think is true.

Very good points. HDMI is at a very confusing point right now.

In most situations 1.1 would probably do fine. It's gonna take awhile before 1.3 catches up. And even if the hardware does support it (PS3, New Onkyos) the software needs to as well. You'd be shocked at how many people are asking (Onkyo 605/805 thread at AVS) how come DTSMA or TrueHD isn't working although they set their PS3 or HD player to bitstream.

The video scaling in the 875 or 3808 would be a waste for me. I'm more than happy with the pic I get from my 2910. I've been using my PS3 lately though since it scales to 1080p, but I'm no videophile, it all looks the same to me........freakin' sweet. Just can't see dropping more $$$ for features that are useless to me.

L.J.
07-22-2007, 08:04 AM
I find it odd that Onkyo wouldn't expect the popping noise to be something of a deterrent for many potential customers, whether it affects performance or not isn't really the issue. Whether it could bother people, or scare them off is.
Just a bit weird. It'll be interesting to see if its successor model has the same noise.

Well the 875's are starting to show up and have the same "issues" as the 805. The popping sound (Actually more like a thud. Kinda like lightly tapping a mic with your finger)and also running very hot.

More later......I'm off to Home Depot.

garethwd
07-28-2007, 10:18 PM
Onkyo have been on the avforums in the uk and stated that there is going to be a firmware update to fix the poping noise and that it seems to only happen with the PS3

L.J.
07-29-2007, 09:37 AM
Onkyo have been on the avforums in the uk and stated that there is going to be a firmware update to fix the poping noise and that it seems to only happen with the PS3

That's good to hear. Although some considered it a minor issue, and Onkyo stated that it was "normal", I just didn't like it. A couple of times I left the volume turned up and had some really loud pops. Not sure if it could damage my speakers or not.

Thanks for the info.

TJM68
07-11-2008, 08:32 AM
Just to let everyone know, I was looking for a 705 at c.c. and they didn't have any in stock. They had an 805 floor model in their home theatre display room. They said it had been set up for 2 months. I asked them if they would sell it and they said they would take $120 off the $699 price. I haggled a little and got it for $475. The 805 is more than I need but I couldn't pass on the deal.

BadAssJazz
07-11-2008, 11:50 AM
Just to let everyone know, I was looking for a 705 at c.c. and they didn't have any in stock. They had an 805 floor model in their home theatre display room. They said it had been set up for 2 months. I asked them if they would sell it and they said they would take $120 off the $699 price. I haggled a little and got it for $475. The 805 is more than I need but I couldn't pass on the deal.

Great deal! I paid $600 for mine NITB. About a week ago CC was offering an additional 10% off for the 4th of July weekend. As much as I hate their in-store presentation and selection, you can usually come away from CC with a bargain.

Worf101
07-16-2008, 04:46 AM
Great deal! I paid $600 for mine NITB. About a week ago CC was offering an additional 10% off for the 4th of July weekend. As much as I hate their in-store presentation and selection, you can usually come away from CC with a bargain.
That's outright theft. Ouch, I'm suddenly VERY jealous. LOL good job to both of you.

Da Worfster

wishstar99
08-14-2008, 09:33 AM
hi,

i recently bought this unit (onkyo tx-sr805). and i'm totally new to this. i only have two floor standing speakers (FRONT L AND R).

i'm using the BI-AMP...

my question is: in the speaker set up menu. do i turn off Subwoofer, SUR BACK LEFT AND RIGHT?

in the manual, when connecting BI-AMP, it says that: FRONT LEFT and SUR BACK LEFT to FRONT LEFT Speaker and FRONT RIGHT and SUR BACK RIGHT to FRONT RIGHT speaker. so, do i turn off SUR BACK LEFT AND RIGHT in the setup menu? or leave it on?

Thank you.

L.J.
08-14-2008, 10:24 AM
hi,

i recently bought this unit (onkyo tx-sr805). and i'm totally new to this. i only have two floor standing speakers (FRONT L AND R).

i'm using the BI-AMP...

my question is: in the speaker set up menu. do i turn off Subwoofer, SUR BACK LEFT AND RIGHT?

in the manual, when connecting BI-AMP, it says that: FRONT LEFT and SUR BACK LEFT to FRONT LEFT Speaker and FRONT RIGHT and SUR BACK RIGHT to FRONT RIGHT speaker. so, do i turn off SUR BACK LEFT AND RIGHT in the setup menu? or leave it on?

Thank you.

Go into setup menu, choose speaker settings and set it to "bi-amp".

• Once you’ve completed the bi-amping connections
shown below and turned on the AV receiver, you must
set the Speaker Type setting to Bi-Amp to enable biamping
(see page 45).