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ForeverAutumn
05-15-2007, 10:31 AM
Hypocrite.

Geldof criticizes Gore's Live Earth

05/12/2007 6:13 PM, AP

Bob Geldof, who organized the Live Aid and Live 8 benefit concerts, criticized the Live Earth music events Al Gore is putting together this summer, saying they lack a specific goal, according to a Dutch newspaper report Saturday.

The Live Earth concerts will be held in cities around the world on July 7, with proceeds funding a yet-to-be-named foundation to combat climate change, under Gore's direction.

The shows will take place in London; New York; Tokyo; Shanghai, China; Johannesburg, South Africa; Sydney, Australia; and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Organizers have also promised an event in Antarctica.

"I hope they're a success," De Volkskrant newspaper quoted Geldof as saying in an interview.

"But why is (Gore) actually organizing them? To make us aware of the greenhouse effect? Everybody's known about that problem for years. We are all (expletive) conscious of global warming," he said.

Geldof, former front-man of The Boomtown Rats, organized the mammoth Live Aid concerts in 1985 to benefit victims of famine in Ethiopia and the Live 8 concerts in 2005 for African debt relief. He has dedicated much of his career to advocating on behalf of humanitarian causes.

"I would only organize (Live Earth) if I could go on stage and announce concrete environmental measures from the American presidential candidates, Congress or major corporations," he told the newspaper. "They haven't got those guarantees, so it's just an enormous pop concert or the umpteenth time that, say, Madonna or Coldplay get up on stage."

Geldof also criticized the former vice president's choice of the name Live Earth.

"It sounds like Live 8," he told the paper. "We're getting lots of responses from people who think we are organizing it."

Gore could not immediately be reached Saturday for comment on the newspaper report. He was in Rio de Janeiro, where he implored people to attend that city's Live Earth show.

"An estimated 2 billion people will be watching around the world, but the single largest event anywhere in the world will be here in Rio. I want to invite every person who cares about the environment in Brazil to come to the event here in Rio," Gore said.

Gore said the concerts would mark the beginning of multiyear campaign to fight global warming. He said the concert was a fitting way to kick off such a campaign because "the task of saving the global environment is a task we should all approach with a sense of joy."

Geldof also could not be reached to confirm the remarks, made at a conference in Budapest, Hungary. The Volkskrant is one of the largest national papers in the Netherlands.

The headliners of the London Live Earth show at Wembley stadium are expected to be Madonna, the Beastie Boys, the Black Eyed Peas, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Keane and Foo Fighters. At the U.S. concert, to be held at Giants Stadium outside New York, Bon Jovi, the Dave Matthews Band, Kanye West, Rihanna, John Mayer, the Smashing Pumpkins and Fall Out Boy are slated to perform.

The concerts will be broadcast in the U.S. by General Electric Co.'s NBC network and on more than 120 networks around the world, and streamed live online.

Gore wrote the best-seller "An Inconvenient Truth," and later starred in a documentary film of the same name that popularized the science showing a link between human carbon dioxide emissions and global warming.

3-LockBox
05-15-2007, 11:54 AM
I can see Geldoff's point. There isn't a clear cut solution, like feeding people. But I would like to remind Geldoff that he hasn't solved any problems either. Sure, he raised money for food to feed the starving, but that was a bandaid fix (no pun intended).

I also think that the money raised for Live Earth needs to be watched like a hawk so that it doesn't wind up going any place it shouldn't, a likely possibility considering the organizer. And if the organizer, Al Gore (inventor of the internet), decides to run for president, then the whole thing was just a political campaign, and then we're back to old, "so what if it is disengenuous, as long as its for our own good" thing.



"I would only organize (Live Earth) if I could go on stage and announce concrete environmental measures from the American presidential candidates, Congress or major corporations,"

I do love how Geldoff, like the rest of the world, wants to hear what the United States is going to do about global warming, what programs is the US going to implement, what will US corporations do about global warming. There are countries in this world who adhere to no environmental standards whatsoever, and who give no aid whatsoever to causes of hunger for that matter, but all the world's problems are for the US to solve.

Geldoff would do good to remind himself of the debacle Live Aid actually was in the pure sense of feeding people. Food and medical supplies were confiscated by rogue governments and not distributed to its intended targets. Elsewhere food sat in wharehouses and rotted, because of one reason or another. Geldoff doesn't think that anyone should dwell on things like that because the main point of Live Aid was to raise awareness, and it did. But it didn't solve anything.

I don't think Live Earth is going to solve anything but how to make Al Gore look less wooden. And we wonder why a republican like Dubbya can get elected when the choices are Billary Clinton, Obama, Algore, et el.

ForeverAutumn
05-15-2007, 12:23 PM
Geldoff doesn't think that anyone should dwell on things like that because the main point of Live Aid was to raise awareness, and it did. But it didn't solve anything.

And yet that's one of his criticism's of Gore...that Gore is only organizing this event in order to raise awareness.


'But why is (Gore) actually organizing them? To make us aware of the greenhouse effect? Everybody's known about that problem for years. We are all (expletive) conscious of global warming," he said.

Geldoff and Bono repeatedly stated that was the purpose of Live 8. Not to raise money, only to raise awareness. But when someone else tries to do the same thing, suddenly it's fodder for criticism because it's not enough.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with holding Live Earth. Frankly I don't know enough about it to comfortably state an opinion (I do agree that if they are going to raise funds, there had better be a proper mandate for the use of those funds). I'm just pointing out that I think this is a serious case of the pot calling the kettle black.

I'll bet that Sir Geldoff would be a lot more supportive if Gore had invited him to produce the DVD set.

GMichael
05-15-2007, 12:33 PM
Sir Geldoff will never be supportive of anything Gore does. No matter what it is.

3-LockBox
05-15-2007, 12:44 PM
Geldoff and Bono repeatedly stated that was the purpose of Live 8. Not to raise money, only to raise awareness. But when someone else tries to do the same thing, suddenly it's fodder for criticism because it's not enough.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with holding Live Earth. Frankly I don't know enough about it to comfortably state an opinion (I do agree that if they are going to raise funds, there had better be a proper mandate for the use of those funds). I'm just pointing out that I think this is a serious case of the pot calling the kettle black.

I'll bet that Sir Geldoff would be a lot more supportive if Gore had invited him to produce the DVD set.

Its typical pompousity coming from Geldoff. Yes it is the pot calling the kettle black. I understand why Geldoff doesn't want to focus on the money raised because of the crticism he recieved after Live Aid. Of course there have always been PSAs on hunger (Sally Field anyone?) but their point (Live 8) is that world hunger must really be important if they can take the time out of their busy schedules then why can't we?

And they say prog is pretencious!

If I remember right, Geldoff didn't exactly have Farm Aid's back either. He's an egomaniac. Didn't you see The Wall? ;)

ForeverAutumn
05-15-2007, 01:35 PM
And they say prog is pretencious!

Please don't invite Geldoff and Bono to start a prog band! :yikes:


Didn't you see The Wall? ;)

Is this a trick question? :sosp:

Truth in art.

Rae
05-16-2007, 01:07 PM
Al Gore - you leave such a bad taste
Al Gore - I don't need you anyways
Al Gore - feeding, feeding my rage

SlumpBuster
05-16-2007, 07:04 PM
I thought of Dave Chappelle's skit about the Player Haters Back in Time, about the haters going back in time to hate on people in various centuries.

I can imagine Geldoff building a time machine just so he could go back and hate on the Concert for Bangledesh. Geldoff thinks he invented the super star charity concert. What a tool.

BradH
05-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Have you noticed how these high profile charity music events target larger and larger problems while their solution sets get more & more vague? Harrison's Concert For Bangladesh was very specific. But with No Nukes it was more like, "Let's take on the superpowers!" Then there was Live Aid to help relieve starvation on the entire continent of Africa like it was merely a country. Then Live 8 to, y'know, just help raise awareness of international debt relief. Now we're getting World Gore Day to "combat climate change" (combat, By God!) by contributing to a "yet-to-be-named" foundation. So, Geldof is right to attack Gore for vagueness but it's a measure of his own wooly-headedness that he takes Gore at face value ("I hope they're a success.") while merely attacking him on style points a few degrees from his own.

3-LockBox
05-16-2007, 11:21 PM
Now we're getting World Gore Day to "combat climate change" (combat, By God!) by contributing to a "yet-to-be-named" foundation.

How 'Al Gore' is that anyway. If the world ever does go to "hell in a hand basket", Al Gore will be out there selling hand baskets. I wonder if the new foundation name will be called, Elect Al Gore - President, on the Green ticket no doubt.

I think you're right...high profile musical charity events suck hippo balls.