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Smokey
04-23-2007, 12:40 PM
Although the described movie scenes are funny, but the quoted lines in those scenes are even more memorable.

Here are few....

Smokey and Bandit:

While Sally Filed was changing her dress in the car with Burt Reynold driving, she asked Burt how does her leg look. Burt said:”Last time I saw legs like that, it had a tag tied to it”.

Odd Couple:

Walt Matheau wanted to invite couple of girls (sisters) over for diner. And since Jack Lemmon just got separated and had emotion ties to his wife, he said he is not ready. So Jack told Walter he will take couple of sleeping pills while his date is here. Walter said: :”why take a pill when you can take a girl”.

City Slickers:

While Billy Crystal was dragged on the ground by the cow he couldn’t rope, he kept saying :”I am on vacation!”

Jurassic Park:

Jeff Goldblum’s wisecrack after being chased in a jeep by a rampaging T-Rex: "Do you think they'll have that on the tour?"

National Lampoon's Vacation:

After confronting the owner of Wally World about why it is closed after driving cross the country, Chevy Chase told him: “How would like to drive all way to Florida for vacationing, and after getting there, find out it is closed”

Silver Streak:

As Richard Pryor was escorting Gene Wilder with the blackface disguise in the train station, and Gene was dancing to the beat of radio in his ear.....

Gene:”I don't think we'll make it past the cops.”
Richard:”We'll make it past the cops. I just hope we don't run into any Muslims brothers.”

markw
04-23-2007, 02:04 PM
Uncle Benny in the dentist's chair when the boys are having fun with his accent, saying he sells "flied lice" in his restaurant: "IT'S FRIED RICE, YOU PLICK!"

ForeverAutumn
04-23-2007, 02:39 PM
In Pink Cadillac, Bernadette Peters is flashed by a man in a trenchcoat who says something to her along the lines of "what do you think of this?". She responds, "it looks just like a penis, only smaller".

PeruvianSkies
04-23-2007, 06:53 PM
HIGH FIDELITY...

Rob: linking both Marvin Gaye and Art Garfunkel is like supporting both the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Laura: No, it's really not, Rob. You know why? Because Marvin Gaye and Art Garfunkel make pop records.

Rob: Made. Made. Marvin Gaye is dead. His father shot him.

SCHOOL FOR SCOUNDRELS...

Dr. P: How many of you have self-help books? Okay that's your first problem. You can't help yourself, because your self sucks!

CHRISTMAS VACATION...

Clark: If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey **** he is. Hallelujah. Holy ****. Where's the Tylenol?

ANIMAL HOUSE

Bluto: See if you can guess what I am now.
[puts mashed potatoes in his mouth, chews it, hits his cheeks with his fists and spits it out]
Bluto: I'm a zit. Get

ANALYSE THIS

Dr. Ben Sobel: Let me get this straight: you flew all the way down to Miami and kidnapped me from my hotel room in the middle of the night just because you couldn't get an erection?
Boss Paul Vitti: Don't that prove I'm motivated?
Dr. Ben Sobel: You know, you can take a pill for that.
Boss Paul Vitti: Nah, you start with the pills, the next thing you know you're putting in hydraulics. A hard-on should be achieved legitimately or it shouldn't be achieved at all.
Dr. Ben Sobel: Hmm, I think Mark Twain said that, didn't he?

ACE VENTURA

Melissa: Hi, I'm Melissa Robinson.
Ace Ventura: Pleasure to meet you.
Melissa: Did you have any trouble getting in?
Ace Ventura: No, the guy with the rubber glove was surprisingly gentle

THE BIG LEBOWSKI

Malibu Police Chief: Mr. Treehorn draws a lot of water in this town. You don't draw sh*t, Lebowski. Now we got a nice, quiet little beach community here, and I aim to keep it nice and quiet. So let me make something plain. I don't like you sucking around, bothering our citizens, Lebowski. I don't like your jerk-off name. I don't like your jerk-off face. I don't like your jerk-off behavior, and I don't like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?
The Dude: [after a pause] I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.

Smokey
04-23-2007, 08:44 PM
Funny quotes guys. They seem to even get funnier when delieverd on screen in the comedy situations.

Like the line in Rush Hour by Chris Tucker:

Don't never touch a black man radio. You can do that in China, but you get killed out here.

And when in China in RH2, Jackie ran the same line in opposite :D

PeruvianSkies
04-23-2007, 08:54 PM
Funny quotes guys. They seem to even get funnier when delieverd on screen in the comedy situations.

Like the line in Rush Hour by Chris Tucker:

Don't never touch a black man radio. You can do that in China, but you get killed out here.

And when in China in RH2, Jackie ran the same line in opposite :D

I tend to find myself laughing at the more subtle jokes in movies that go-over alot of peoples heads. I suppose I read-into more stuff, but that's ok. Movies like SUNSET BLVD are humorous to me for some of the in-jokes about the movie industry, same with BOWFINGER, so here's a line from that film:

Robert K. Bowfinger: Do you have any experience in motion pictures?

Jiff Ramsey: Uh, well, yeah, quite a bit, actually, I have quite a bit of experience. I'm an active, uh, renter at Blockbuster, and I, um, attend the filmed cinema, uh, as much as possible, weekly, bi-weekly, inter-week-... intermediately.

Robert K. Bowfinger: Would you be willing to cut your hair?

Jiff Ramsey: [sighs] Oh, yes, but, uh, it's usually better if someone else does it. I've had a few... accidents.

Worf101
04-24-2007, 04:13 AM
Being an ex-service (Army) man I often find humor in the lines that flow from the mouths of Drill Sergeants or Drill Instructors as they're called in the Marines. They are the most profane, foul mouthed despicable individuals God in his/her infinate wisdom ever placed on this earth but they are also essential. All free nations need "bright legions" and these men and women take civilians and turn them into soldiers. The best of these movies was Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket". The first half of the movie is so true to boot camp I can't watch it without squirming in my seat, but the lines... ahh those are friggin' priceless!

JOKER
(whispering)
Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

HARTMAN
Who said that? Who the f**k said that? Who's
the slimy little communist s**t twinkle-toed c**ksucker down here, who just signed his own death warrant?
Nobody, huh?! The fairy f**king godmother said it! Out-f**king-standing! I will P.T. you all until you f**king die!
I'll P.T. you until your *******s are sucking buttermilk.

__________________________________________________ ___

HARTMAN

Tonight ... you pukes will sleep with your rifles! You will give your rifle a girl's name! Because this is the only pussy you people are
going to get! Your days of finger-banging old Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her pretty pink panties are over! You're married to this
piece, this weapon of iron and wood! And you will be faithful!

Port ... hut! Prepare to Mount...

MOUNT!
__________________________________________________ ___

HARTMAN
Quickly! Get your fat ass over there, Private Pyle! Oh, that's right, Private Pyle ... don't make any ****ing effort to get to the top of
the f**king obstacle!
If God wanted you up there He would have miracled your ass up
there by now, wouldn't He?

PYLE
Sir, yes, sir!


HARTMAN
Get your fat ass up there, Pyle!

PYLE
Sir, yes, sir!

HARTMAN
What the hell is the matter with you anyway?
I'll bet you if there was some pussy up there on top of that obstacle you could get up there!
Couldn't you?!

PYLE
Sir, yes, sir!

__________________________________________________ _____

PYLE climbs a high obstacle.


HARTMAN
Get up here, fatboy! Quickly! Move it up! Move it up, Pyle! Move it up! You climb obstacles like old people f**k. Do you know that, Private Pyle?

Get up here! You're too slow! Move it, move it! Private Pyle, what-
ever you do, don't fall down! That would break my f**king heart! Quickly!

PYLE freezes at the top.

HARTMAN
Up and over! Up and over! Well, what in the **** are you waiting for, Private Pyle?
Get up and over! Move it, move it, move it! Are you quitting on me? Well, are you!
Then quit you slimy f**king walrus-looking piece of sh*t! Get the f**k off my obstacle! Get the f**k down off of my obstacle! Now!

PYLE climbs
back down his side of the obstacle.

HARTMAN
Move it! I'm gonna rip your balls off so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world! I will motivate you, Private Pyle, if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo!
__________________________________________________ _____

HARTMAN
I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the Virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump!

JOKER & COWBOY
(in unison)
Sir, yes, sir!

HARTMAN
Private Joker, do you believe in the Virgin Mary?

JOKER
Sir, no, sir!

HARTMAN throws down the garbage can with a loud
bang.

HARTMAN
Private Joker, I don't believe I heard you correctly!

JOKER
Sir, the private said "No, sir," sir!

HARTMAN
Why, you little maggot! You make me want to
vomit!

HARTMAN slaps JOKER, hard, across the cheek.

HARTMAN
You goddam communist heathen, you had best
sound off that you love the Virgin Mary . . . or
I'm gonna stomp your guts out! Now you do love
the Virgin Mary, don't you?!

JOKER
Sir, negative,
sir!!

HARTMAN
Private Joker, are you trying to offend
me?!
__________________________________________________ _____

HARTMAN

What is this Mickey Mouse s**t? What in the name of Jesus H. Christ
are you animals doing in my head?

(to JOKER)
Why is Private Pyle out of his bunk after lights out?!
Why is Private Pyle holding that weapon? Why aren't you stomping Private Pyle's guts out?

JOKER
Sir, it is the private's duty to inform the Senior Drill Instructor that Private Pyie has a full magazine and has locked and loaded, sir

__________________________________________________ _______
JOKER
I want to slip my tubesteak into your sister.
What'll you take in trade?

COWBOY
What have you got?


Ah what memories!!!

Da Worfster

Smokey
04-24-2007, 05:47 AM
What is this Worf? Quoting funny lines from a movie, or walking down the memory lane :D

I really liked that movie, but only the first half of movie in the training camp. The movie seem to lose momentum once they are in Vietnam. I wished the latter part was as aggressive as the first part.

But nevertheless, the line from Hartman “I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the Virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump!” is a memorable one.

PeruvianSkies
04-24-2007, 06:53 AM
What is this Worf? Quoting funny lines from a movie, or walking down the memory lane :D

I really liked that movie, but only the first half of movie in the training camp. The movie seem to lose momentum once they are in Vietnam. I wished the latter part was as aggressive as the first part.

But nevertheless, the line from Hartman “I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the Virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump!” is a memorable one.

One of the most common criticisms of FULL METAL JACKET is that the first half doesn't seem to match up with the second half of the film, but I feel a bit different about it. First, Stanley Kubrick's approach is different than what had been done before by ...oh let's say Coppola's APOCALYPSE NOW or Cimino's THE DEER HUNTER. Instead Kubrick wanted to make a film that was realistic, yet artistic in it's depiction of war, even the horrific and beautiful moments.

The first half of the film is certainly more memorable as we are taken into the world of boot camp. It's rough, gritty, dirty, and real. We are (as the camera moves suggest) almost witnessing the action as if WE are there with those guys. We watch with shock, we laugh at times, and are scared at times as to what happens or will happen next.

Then we transition into the actual war part of the film, which is slower in pace than most war films are. It's not about the confrontation of war, but the patience of war, or as some have put it...the FOG of war. In many ways the second part of the film reminds me of Peter Davis' HEARTS AND MINDS (1974), which to this day is probably the most profound documentary made on War, especially Vietnam.

The fact that the second part of FULL METAL JACKET is not as aggressive as the first part, or as aggressive as other war films is, to me at least, what distinguishes it apart from the rest as a film that dares to be different, perhaps more realistic at the nature of war, and also manages to be both beautiful and horrorible at the same time.

SlumpBuster
04-24-2007, 07:09 AM
Not a line per se, but one of the funniest scenes in movie history is Peter Boyle as Frankenstein's monster in Young Frankenstein singing "Puttin' on the Ritz."

JoeMc
04-24-2007, 07:34 AM
Bill Fields in a bar asks the bartender (Shemp Howard).

Bill "Was I in here last night, and did I spend a twenty dollar bill?"
Shemp replies "Yeah"
Bill "Phew, I thought I lost it."

topspeed
04-24-2007, 08:59 AM
Real Genius - (The whole movie is one liners, but here are some of my faves)

Prof. Hathaway: "You still run?"
Knight: "Only when chased."

Hathaway: "I'd like see more of you in the lab."
Knight: "Fine. I'll gain weight."

Knight: "I'm sorry I didn't get to know you. If there's ever anything I can do for you...or more to the point, to you...let me know."
Susan: "Can you hammer a six inch spike through a board with your penis?"
Knight: "Not right now."
Susan: "A girl's gotta have her standards."


Analyze This - The scene where Vitti is explaining his mistress to Sobel.
Vitti: "She does things my wife...doesn't."
Sobel: "Why can't you have your wife do it?"
Vitti: "HEY!!! She kisses my kids with that mouth!"


Wedding Crasher - This scene is too long to type out, so just watch the classic "Motorboat" clip:
http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/5303/Wedding_Crashers_Motorboat

PeruvianSkies
04-24-2007, 11:00 AM
Real Genius - (The whole movie is one liners, but here are some of my faves)

Prof. Hathaway: "You still run?"
Knight: "Only when chased."

Hathaway: "I'd like see more of you in the lab."
Knight: "Fine. I'll gain weight."

Knight: "I'm sorry I didn't get to know you. If there's ever anything I can do for you...or more to the point, to you...let me know."
Susan: "Can you hammer a six inch spike through a board with your penis?"
Knight: "Not right now."
Susan: "A girl's gotta have her standards."


Analyze This - The scene where Vitti is explaining his mistress to Sobel.
Vitti: "She does things my wife...doesn't."
Sobel: "Why can't you have your wife do it?"
Vitti: "HEY!!! She kisses my kids with that mouth!"


Wedding Crasher - This scene is too long to type out, so just watch the classic "Motorboat" clip:
http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/5303/Wedding_Crashers_Motorboat

Thanks Topspeed for those great reminders from REAL GENIUS...one of my all time favorite movies...it's just brilliant. I LOVE TOXIC WASTE. What a great commentary on the Reagan administration...and the opening credits are just masterful...

Smokey
04-24-2007, 01:36 PM
PeruvianSkies

Although I haven’t seen that movie in a long time (not a big fan of war movies), but as I
remember the second half didn’t have interesting characters as it did in the first half. The lead actor worked just fine between rough and tough sergeant and bubbling Pyle, but it didn’t work so well once those two characters were gone.

If Kubrick would have carried over the Sergeant and Pyle to second half also, it would have been interesting to watch as the second half didn’t have any attention grabbing characters. so whatever massage Kubrick was trying to get cross in the second part, wasn’t so effective.

By the way, did that movie contain any funny lines. Worf already mentioned all of the cussing lines :D

And thanks Slumbuster, JoeMc and Topspeed for the giggles :)

PeruvianSkies
04-24-2007, 04:19 PM
PeruvianSkies

Although I haven’t seen that movie in a long time (not a big fan of war movies), but as I
remember the second half didn’t have interesting characters as it did in the first half. The lead actor worked just fine between rough and tough sergeant and bubbling Pyle, but it didn’t work so well once those two characters were gone.

If Kubrick would have carried over the Sergeant and Pyle to second half also, it would have been interesting to watch as the second half didn’t have any attention grabbing characters. so whatever massage Kubrick was trying to get cross in the second part, wasn’t so effective.

By the way, did that movie contain any funny lines. Worf already mentioned all of the cussing lines :D

And thanks Slumbuster, JoeMc and Topspeed for the giggles :)

Well, I am sure that the Sgt. and Pyle would have loved to be in the second half of the film, but just a minor problem. Sgt. has a rifleshot to the chest cavity at point blank range to deal with and Pyle has half of his brains and head on the bathroom wall.

GMichael
04-25-2007, 06:04 AM
Well, I am sure that the Sgt. and Pyle would have loved to be in the second half of the film, but just a minor problem. Sgt. has a rifleshot to the chest cavity at point blank range to deal with and Pyle has half of his brains and head on the bathroom wall.

And that ended the best part of the movie. The rest was not as entertaining. Not bad, but not as good IMO.
But let's get back to the jokes. Here's one that needs no supporting information, even if it was from a chick-flick.

"I'll have what she's having."

Rich-n-Texas
04-25-2007, 06:16 AM
That whole scene in the cockpit where they're all communicating to each other. (I don't remember line-by-line but you'll get the idea.)

Roger... Ober... Huh? Who? What's your vector Victor?

GMichael
04-25-2007, 06:28 AM
That whole scene in the cockpit where they're all communicating to each other. (I don't remember line-by-line but you'll get the idea.)

Roger... Ober... Huh? Who? What's your vector Victor?

No! I can't land this plane. AND STOP CALLING ME SHIRLEY!

Resident Loser
04-25-2007, 06:45 AM
...[Frankenstein, Igor and Inga in front of HUGE castle doors with IMMENSE metal door knockers; Igor bangs the door knockers loudly]

Dr. Frankenstein: What knockers!

Inga: [blushing, smiling shyly] Oh! Thank you, doctor!

jimHJJ(...round up the usual suspects...)

eisforelectronic
04-25-2007, 09:52 AM
Wedding Crashers, in the beginning - "You shut your mouth when You're talking to me"

Worf101
04-25-2007, 10:14 AM
Here's some more I just love.

"The Thing" (1951)
"Did you get your picture Scotty?"
"No the door wasn't open long enough and you were in the way."
"Want me to open the door again?"
"NO!!"

"About A Boy" (Hugh Grant at his finest)
(The kid seemed to think this was a date. As for his mum, she was clearly insane...
...and appeared to be wearing some kind of Yeti costume)

"Independence Day"
"I could'a been at a barbecue!!!!"

"They're shooting at us!"
"D' oh you think?"

"48 Hours"
"I've been in prison for 4 years, my dick get's hard if the wind blows."


Da Worfster

kexodusc
04-25-2007, 10:30 AM
Wow Worf thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Last time this site had a favorite quotes thread I posted many of the same from Full Metal Jacket...
My personal fav remains:
Hartman: "Private Pyle I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-****ing-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-**** you! "

kexodusc
04-25-2007, 10:42 AM
Okay, I'll go:


Spaceballs:
Dark Helmet: I bet she gives great helmet
_________________________________________
Lone Starr: A million? That's unfair.
Pizza the Hutt: Unfair to payor but not to payee. But you're gonna pay it, or else!
Barf: Or else what?
Pizza the Hutt: Tell him, Vinnie.
Vinnie: Or else pizza is gonna send out for *you*!
_________________________________________

Dark Helmet: So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
_________________________________________

Dark Helmet: You have the ring, and I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Let's see how well you handle it.

Kam
04-25-2007, 11:14 AM
some of my favs up there, but i'll mention the one that almost everyone misses...

Shawshank Redemption - when the fatman is crying that first night in prison and Hadley comes down to beat the crap out of him, when he's yelling at him through the bars, before he pulls him out, from the peanut gallery comes the best response...

Fatman: I'm not supposed to be here!
Inmate: Me either! You run this place like a prison!

cracks me up everytime...

PeruvianSkies
04-28-2007, 04:40 PM
And that ended the best part of the movie. The rest was not as entertaining. Not bad, but not as good IMO.
But let's get back to the jokes. Here's one that needs no supporting information, even if it was from a chick-flick.

"I'll have what she's having."

It's not really an entertaining type of film. Most are "entertained" during the first half only because they are not really there in person. Otherwise that scene (if you were one of the soldiers) would have a completely different tone. Just like war. It's kinda sad that this film has been boiled down to a film about one-liners. What's next...putting it in the comedy section of the local movie rental place? It's become a sound-byte and I try to see this film for both halves, not just a humorous realistic boot camp experience.

Then again, that's just me and I realize that I probably take film more seriously than most.

Smokey
04-28-2007, 08:22 PM
PeruvianSkies

Have you seen the review of this movie from Roger Ebert?

Here are some excerpts:

"The opening passages of "Full Metal Jacket" promise much more than the film finally is able to deliver. They tell the story of a group of marine grunts undergoing basic training on Paris Island, and the experience comes down to a confrontation between the gunnery sergeant and a tubby misfit who is nicknamed Gomer Pyle. These are the two best performances in the movie, which never recovers after they leave the scene."

"There is a surprise to come, however: the complete abandonment of the sexual metaphor once the troops are in Vietnam. The movie disintegrates into a series of self-contained set pieces, none of them quite satisfying."

"But Full Metal Jacket is uncertain where to go, and the movie's climax, which Kubrick obviously intends to be a mighty moral revelation, seems phoned in from earlier war pictures. After what has already been said about "Vietnam" in the movies, Full Metal Jacket is too little and too late."


He gave the movie 2-1/2 star out of four stars.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870626/REVIEWS/706260302/1023

PeruvianSkies
04-28-2007, 09:11 PM
PeruvianSkies

Have you seen the review of this movie from Roger Ebert?

Here are some excerpts:

"The opening passages of "Full Metal Jacket" promise much more than the film finally is able to deliver. They tell the story of a group of marine grunts undergoing basic training on Paris Island, and the experience comes down to a confrontation between the gunnery sergeant and a tubby misfit who is nicknamed Gomer Pyle. These are the two best performances in the movie, which never recovers after they leave the scene."

"There is a surprise to come, however: the complete abandonment of the sexual metaphor once the troops are in Vietnam. The movie disintegrates into a series of self-contained set pieces, none of them quite satisfying."

"But Full Metal Jacket is uncertain where to go, and the movie's climax, which Kubrick obviously intends to be a mighty moral revelation, seems phoned in from earlier war pictures. After what has already been said about "Vietnam" in the movies, Full Metal Jacket is too little and too late."


He gave the movie 2-1/2 star out of four stars.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870626/REVIEWS/706260302/1023

and your point? Or should I say..and Eberts point? I could care less what Ebert says. Just because he feels that way doesn't make it so. I could pull up dozens of reviews that say just the opposite and feel that the film needs both halves in order to feel complete. Ebert also hated THE USUAL SUSPECTS...does that mean it's a terrible film? I don't think it is. Ebert also likes to change his mind, like the time he said that he loathed AMERICAN PSYCHO, but has since changed his mind and now gives it two thumbs up. Wow, talk about being wishy washy...I am sure since 1987 his opinion of FULL METAL JACKET has changed as well.

Worf101
04-29-2007, 11:32 AM
It's not really an entertaining type of film. Most are "entertained" during the first half only because they are not really there in person. Otherwise that scene (if you were one of the soldiers) would have a completely different tone. Just like war. It's kinda sad that this film has been boiled down to a film about one-liners. What's next...putting it in the comedy section of the local movie rental place? It's become a sound-byte and I try to see this film for both halves, not just a humorous realistic boot camp experience.

Then again, that's just me and I realize that I probably take film more seriously than most.
I take my film as seriously as anyone here. I only mentioned the quotes I did because they resonate with me, primarily because I've seen and heard those quotes in REAL life. FMJ is a movie a decent movie, but a FLAWED movie. I enjoyed the first half more than the second but I'd never confuse it with a comedy. I won't go into the complexities of trying to turn a fat, doughy, simple minded civilian into a killing machine, nor will I discuss the morality of it here. But as a vet, the language made me wince, laugh and cry from experience. That's all I meant to say in my original post. I'm sorry the thread got "hijacked" into FMJ/Kubrick slugfest.

Da Worfster

Smokey
04-29-2007, 04:19 PM
Worf

I don’t think any body here said this was a comedy movie, as it is not. “Wars” are not funny. I think the argument was whether the second half of movie was as strong enough as the first half. And as you can see, the opinions vary on that subject.

Not to be sorry here. After all, it is just a movie. While back I mentioned that the movie Good Burger was one of funniest movie I ever seen, but Kam said it was [in his opinion] one of the worst. I guess everybody to his/her own.

PeruvianSkies
04-29-2007, 06:28 PM
I take my film as seriously as anyone here. I only mentioned the quotes I did because they resonate with me, primarily because I've seen and heard those quotes in REAL life. FMJ is a movie a decent movie, but a FLAWED movie. I enjoyed the first half more than the second but I'd never confuse it with a comedy. I won't go into the complexities of trying to turn a fat, doughy, simple minded civilian into a killing machine, nor will I discuss the morality of it here. But as a vet, the language made me wince, laugh and cry from experience. That's all I meant to say in my original post. I'm sorry the thread got "hijacked" into FMJ/Kubrick slugfest.

Da Worfster

Worf,

I don't doubt that you take your movies seriously. In fact, you are one of the few people on here that I can count on for a good movie discussion or thread. The fact that you found the lines in FMJ funny are obviously related to your experience in the service and that is a valid reason because it resonated with you. However, I am referring to the people who use this film primarily as a soundbyte type of film, especially people who are military-wannabees. I've never been in the service, but I have a huge respect for them. My father-in-law is retired from the Army, my biological father is a career serviceman going on his 30th year. My grandfather was in the reserves and my other grandfather was in the Navy. So I have lots of people in my life that enabled me to appreciate and respect those that fight for our country to make it free.

Hope I didn't step on your toes with this. I think FMJ is one of the most memorable films of all time, especially for a war film and this is without a doubt due to Stanley Kubrick who has forged some of the most meaningful and memorable images in celluloid history. My position on the issue of the two halves of FMJ is this...

Is the second half as strong as the first? Well, they are different and therefore, just like two wings on a plane...both are important. Which wing on a plane is more important? Both. In my opinion you need both parts of this film in order to make it complete. Some feel that it is flawed and that the second half doesn't "live up" to what the beginning offers, my position is that they are expecting something different...maybe something more like APOCALYPSE NOW or PLATOON, but that's not where this film was ever headed. I stand by my position on this film, unlike Ebert, I won't change my mind, but I can say that only thing that would change is that I might love this film more and more with time, never less.

Worf101
04-30-2007, 03:53 AM
Worf,

I don't doubt that you take your movies seriously. In fact, you are one of the few people on here that I can count on for a good movie discussion or thread. The fact that you found the lines in FMJ funny are obviously related to your experience in the service and that is a valid reason because it resonated with you. However, I am referring to the people who use this film primarily as a soundbyte type of film, especially people who are military-wannabees. I've never been in the service, but I have a huge respect for them. My father-in-law is retired from the Army, my biological father is a career serviceman going on his 30th year. My grandfather was in the reserves and my other grandfather was in the Navy. So I have lots of people in my life that enabled me to appreciate and respect those that fight for our country to make it free.

Hope I didn't step on your toes with this. I think FMJ is one of the most memorable films of all time, especially for a war film and this is without a doubt due to Stanley Kubrick who has forged some of the most meaningful and memorable images in celluloid history. My position on the issue of the two halves of FMJ is this...

Is the second half as strong as the first? Well, they are different and therefore, just like two wings on a plane...both are important. Which wing on a plane is more important? Both. In my opinion you need both parts of this film in order to make it complete. Some feel that it is flawed and that the second half doesn't "live up" to what the beginning offers, my position is that they are expecting something different...maybe something more like APOCALYPSE NOW or PLATOON, but that's not where this film was ever headed. I stand by my position on this film, unlike Ebert, I won't change my mind, but I can say that only thing that would change is that I might love this film more and more with time, never less.

I wasn't offended, just a little pooped and snarky. I looked at your posts and after re-reading and reading this I realize what you were saying. I apologize if I appeared cross. I shouldn't type after gigin' into the wee hours. You're a valued voice here as well and your positions are well thought out and heartfelt. Thanks..

Da Worfster

kexodusc
04-30-2007, 03:56 AM
I always felt FMJ was very overrated as far as war movies go - the first half was brilliant, the second half, meh....really brings the batting average down. And as a movie, I can't separate the two and say the first half was so good that the second gets a free pass. I know a lot of people only watch to the point Pyle's brains are splattered, then shut it off.

To be fair though, I think the dialogue of the first half of the movie was intended to be comical while painting the whole boot camp picture at the same time - c'mon..there's no way anyone in their right mind could write that stuff down and not have a chuckle. Quite simply, Kubrick could have substituted far more degrating/motivating/testing language into those scenes and accomplished all of his other goals for those scenes...but they were funny for a reason.

GMichael
04-30-2007, 05:22 AM
It's not really an entertaining type of film. Most are "entertained" during the first half only because they are not really there in person. Otherwise that scene (if you were one of the soldiers) would have a completely different tone. Just like war. It's kinda sad that this film has been boiled down to a film about one-liners. What's next...putting it in the comedy section of the local movie rental place? It's become a sound-byte and I try to see this film for both halves, not just a humorous realistic boot camp experience.

Then again, that's just me and I realize that I probably take film more seriously than most.

Very true. IMO it was like two movies rolled into one. The second half was a very abrupt change from the first half. Maybe that's what they had in mind all along.

PeruvianSkies
04-30-2007, 06:30 AM
What would have happened if FULL METAL JACKET had been released when it was planned to in the Summer of 86. Due to some injuries (Ermey got in a car accident and Modine seperated his shoulder), plus some other setbacks the film was pushed back to the winter of 1986, but when PLATOON was announced for that release date they pushed FULL METAL JACKET back to the Summer of 1987. Of course PLATOON received numerous Oscars and such, which it certainly is a good film, but I often wonder if these two films had been released in opposite order if more attention would have been given to FMJ???

kexodusc
04-30-2007, 06:50 AM
What would have happened if FULL METAL JACKET had been released when it was planned to in the Summer of 86. Due to some injuries (Ermey got in a car accident and Modine seperated his shoulder), plus some other setbacks the film was pushed back to the winter of 1986, but when PLATOON was announced for that release date they pushed FULL METAL JACKET back to the Summer of 1987. Of course PLATOON received numerous Oscars and such, which it certainly is a good film, but I often wonder if these two films had been released in opposite order if more attention would have been given to FMJ???

Yeah, timing does play a major role in it for some people. In this case, I didn't see either until the mid 90's and just found Platoon to be a better film, though I enjoyed both.

I always wondered how Fox got those Twister and Armageddon rip-off movies made-for-TV on the air before the Twister and Armageddon made it to theaters??? :confused5:

PeruvianSkies
04-30-2007, 07:23 AM
Yeah, timing does play a major role in it for some people. In this case, I didn't see either until the mid 90's and just found Platoon to be a better film, though I enjoyed both.

I always wondered how Fox got those Twister and Armageddon rip-off movies made-for-TV on the air before the Twister and Armageddon made it to theaters??? :confused5:

Well, to answer your question about TWISTER and ARMAGEDDON is this: there is usually a few similar scripts that float around Hollywood. It's like a hot-topic list. Therefore, a few projects get greenlighted and the made-for-TV's typically make it first since they are not huge productions and are slapped together quicker. Then comes the blockbuster version a few months maybe even a year or two later.

GMichael
04-30-2007, 07:24 AM
Yeah, timing does play a major role in it for some people. In this case, I didn't see either until the mid 90's and just found Platoon to be a better film, though I enjoyed both.

I always wondered how Fox got those Twister and Armageddon rip-off movies made-for-TV on the air before the Twister and Armageddon made it to theaters??? :confused5:


I think that rip-offs are just easier to do. Less attention to details ect.

PeruvianSkies
04-30-2007, 08:09 AM
Very true. IMO it was like two movies rolled into one. The second half was a very abrupt change from the first half. Maybe that's what they had in mind all along.

From Stanley Kubrick: A Life in the Pictures...

Kubrick is experimenting in FMJ by not using traditional dramatic and narrative structure, which is why the second half moves out from where we just were in the first half.

I am also mindful of the complexities of this film furthermore. I think that in this case Kubrick was taking a story "The Short-Timers" and adapting that into a war film with no agenda. Unlike his earlier film PATHS OF GLORY, which is an anti-war picture, FMJ is a non-polical, non-moral vantage point of war. Here, we see in the second half of the film that Joker has on his helmet "Born To Kill" and as pointed out in the film...a "Peace Button". Then he is asked if that is 'some kind of sick joke', but he has no answer to why he is wearing both (other than his commentary on the 'duality of man' ....he is confused, disillusioned, and in many ways this is a commentary for once again ...Vietnam and in broader terms...War. The "Fog" of war as it is often referrred to. This is heartfelt and well-executed in Peter Davis' HEARTS AND MINDS (1974). The contrast of the second half is also seen in the beauty of the images, yet with the ugliness of death and battle in the foreground. Notice how the scenes are shot in the gasworks and a bombed out section of town during 'magic hour', which gives a beautiful lighting effect and glow.