salad 419
01-07-2007, 07:52 PM
I've been researching and reading professional and consumer reviews for almost two months now and have changed my mind a million times. The list goes back and forth from the Onkyo TX-SR803 to the TX-SR804 to Yamaha RX-V1600. Then almost got a Pioneer Elite VSX-81TXV. My goal was to get a $1000 List Price 100 watt or more reciever for around $600. I almost ordered The Yamaha several times until I read reviews of a comparison between it a similarly priced Dennon and Yamaha. The results were that the Yamaha won everything but the 2-channel music portion and the Dennon excelled in that area. SO..........(sorry for the preamble)
I was at a semi-local big box store the other day and they had a Last Unit Dennon AVR-886S (Similar to the 2106) on clearance for $415. I woulda snagged it up, but didn't have a credit card on me. I did some research on that model and went back a few days later determined to get the Dennon. I walked in and said I want THAT receiver. The sales guy started in. How about one of these and those and on and on..... Then he said I'll match the price of the Dennon with this Harman Kardon AVR-245. I didn't do ANY research on the HK's because I thought they were pricey. I did read a few posts here and other places about their conservative power ratings and all channel driven blah blah. Anyway. I listened to the HK. Then I made the guy hook up the Dennon to his multi-unit display and A/B test the two recievers. The HK was slightly louder than the Dennon at the same -21db level and sounded a bit rounder and more detailed. So, I bought the Harman Kardon which was rated at 50x7. (Owners manual states 65wx2)
I hooked it up and WOW, I have NEVER heard such detail and musical goodness (even on my not so good speakers). You can actually hear the bass guitar notes and strings being plucked.and a kick drum sounds just like you were standing in front of it. (I'm sure we've all been in bands before, right??) My Boomy Cerwin Vegas are tight and punchy. I stayed up all night listening and the rest of the weekend has been spent listening to music. I played a bunch of albums that I've heard several hundred times and found things in them that I never heard before. Here's a quote from some random internet review and I 2nd it : "You enjoy tighter bass, superb transient response and enhanced presence at any volume level."
Anyway I'm rambling. But I just can't believe that a reciever change could have made that much of a difference on speakers that aren't transparent. The sound is very tolerable and brought some excitement back into music. While my speakers are not even close to being "audiophile enough" I'm REALLY happy with the purchase of the reciever. This reciever is DAMN loud and clean. I just have to decide what speakers to buy. Let the fun begin.
Current Speakers are Cerwin Vega E-710 and LW-12 sub.
I also have my old Pioneer CS-G403 15 inch 3-ways in Zone 2. (No bottom end, but the highs are nicer).
Ok, there's my psuedo review/happy post.
I was at a semi-local big box store the other day and they had a Last Unit Dennon AVR-886S (Similar to the 2106) on clearance for $415. I woulda snagged it up, but didn't have a credit card on me. I did some research on that model and went back a few days later determined to get the Dennon. I walked in and said I want THAT receiver. The sales guy started in. How about one of these and those and on and on..... Then he said I'll match the price of the Dennon with this Harman Kardon AVR-245. I didn't do ANY research on the HK's because I thought they were pricey. I did read a few posts here and other places about their conservative power ratings and all channel driven blah blah. Anyway. I listened to the HK. Then I made the guy hook up the Dennon to his multi-unit display and A/B test the two recievers. The HK was slightly louder than the Dennon at the same -21db level and sounded a bit rounder and more detailed. So, I bought the Harman Kardon which was rated at 50x7. (Owners manual states 65wx2)
I hooked it up and WOW, I have NEVER heard such detail and musical goodness (even on my not so good speakers). You can actually hear the bass guitar notes and strings being plucked.and a kick drum sounds just like you were standing in front of it. (I'm sure we've all been in bands before, right??) My Boomy Cerwin Vegas are tight and punchy. I stayed up all night listening and the rest of the weekend has been spent listening to music. I played a bunch of albums that I've heard several hundred times and found things in them that I never heard before. Here's a quote from some random internet review and I 2nd it : "You enjoy tighter bass, superb transient response and enhanced presence at any volume level."
Anyway I'm rambling. But I just can't believe that a reciever change could have made that much of a difference on speakers that aren't transparent. The sound is very tolerable and brought some excitement back into music. While my speakers are not even close to being "audiophile enough" I'm REALLY happy with the purchase of the reciever. This reciever is DAMN loud and clean. I just have to decide what speakers to buy. Let the fun begin.
Current Speakers are Cerwin Vega E-710 and LW-12 sub.
I also have my old Pioneer CS-G403 15 inch 3-ways in Zone 2. (No bottom end, but the highs are nicer).
Ok, there's my psuedo review/happy post.