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2325fan
10-26-2006, 07:09 PM
anybody know of a really good set of speakers that can handle my system? its a 2 channel set up. take a look at my profile to see what im runnin thanks very much
PeruvianSkies
10-26-2006, 11:15 PM
What exactly is your goal? Are you looking for speakers that can blow down a frat house or speakers that can shake your soul with musicality unlike any other? Also, what is your budget? Once I have some more information I can certainly give you some ideas.
2325fan
11-05-2006, 01:59 PM
im lookin to find something that can bass my street an able to hear the highs and mids too. but a lil of both also a set of my speakers r gettin tired so i want to have em put away an replaced at a latr date
SlumpBuster
11-05-2006, 06:44 PM
I weep for our public school system. :17:
jrhymeammo
11-05-2006, 07:29 PM
Also, what is your budget?
Well.....?
How about this??? http://cgi.ebay.com/DIVINCI-DV-1450-HOME-THEATER-SURROUND-SOUND-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ200043665999QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3 276QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I must warn you. Their stuff isn't as great as it was in the 60s and 70s. I got some Divinci stuff stashed away in my closet for Armageddon.
JayRa
audio_dude
11-05-2006, 07:53 PM
OMG jrhymeammo, i can't beleive those have taken over ebay too!
damn, i feel sorry for anyone who gets suckered into buying that load of ****...
ya, dude, what about some high end Cerwin-Vega's
(P.S.: i didn't know DiVinci invented the Silkdome and titanium tweeters, and they use "Diamond cut Platinum" drivers!)
jrhymeammo
11-05-2006, 08:16 PM
(P.S.: i didn't know DiVinci invented the Silkdome and titanium tweeters, and they use "Diamond cut Platinum" drivers!)
Innovation is what keep'em at the top of their industry.
MikeyBC
11-05-2006, 08:46 PM
Oh my god...what a load of BS that divinci company spews out...can anyone say "white van"?
If I wanted loud music with lots of bass and treble that wont tear your eyebrows off i'd look into a used pair of klipsh
hermanv
11-05-2006, 11:30 PM
anybody know of a really good set of speakers that can handle my system? its a 2 channel set up. take a look at my profile to see what im runnin thanks very much
Perhaps I'm crazy, but I see nothing in your equipment list that can not be handled by relatively ordinary speakers. If I remember correctly your amps were 250 watts, maybe I'm wrong but the following still tracks for other wattages.
A 250 watt amplifier can typically be played no louder than 25 watts becasue most music has a ten to one peak to average ratio. So if the volume is set so the peaks don't clip, the maximum average level ends up around 25 Watts. That is the amount of heat the speakers will need to dissipate and almost all ordinary speakers can handle that amount.
With a 90 dB SPL effcient speaker you will end up with 104dB SPL average volume, loud but not deafening. You need much more efficient speakers (read $$$) or more power.
2325fan
11-06-2006, 08:03 AM
wow thats kinda rude holy ****!!!!!!!!! my system will make u deaf wanna hear it ever hear of gas amps from the 70's? well ive got 2 of em hooked up accordin to my output meters the sytem has been pushed to a total of over 4oo watts is that loud enough for u????????
2325fan
11-06-2006, 08:04 AM
uggghhhhh nasty speakers im sorry to say that
2325fan
11-06-2006, 08:05 AM
why would u weep ?????
hermanv
11-06-2006, 08:28 AM
Geez, you asked. Want help or an excuse for a testoterone fest?
jrhymeammo
11-06-2006, 09:49 AM
Hey 2325fan. I'll ask you this again. What is your budget? If you can tell us this, we can definitely lead you to a great pair of speakers.
Let's just look at 2 options here.
You can choose to get a pair of bookshelf and get a powered sub for your bass. Or you can go for a 3 way tower speakers.
What type of music do you listen to?
I'm really confused with you so far. Give us some details.
JRA
markw
11-06-2006, 11:19 AM
wow thats kinda rude holy ****!!!!!!!!! my system will make u deaf wanna hear it ever hear of gas amps from the 70's? well ive got 2 of em hooked up accordin to my output meters the sytem has been pushed to a total of over 4oo watts is that loud enough for u????????He wasn't trying to insult you. He's simply stating well known facts. Had you been more knowledgable in these matters you would have known that and known it wasn't an insult.
After all, if you're here to learn, you should listen to what's being said. Obviously, you've got a lot to learn. Simply coming out swinging when you don't understand what's being said doesn't bode well for your reputation here.
topspeed
11-06-2006, 12:38 PM
Well.....?
How about this??? http://cgi.ebay.com/DIVINCI-DV-1450-HOME-THEATER-SURROUND-SOUND-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ200043665999QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3 276QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
MMmmmph...gck...
BWAAHAAHAAHAA!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hooboy! *wipes tears from eyes* I needed that, thanks man :).
2325:
Just so you know, watts don't mean squat. Given the right speaker and the right room, a 10 watt flea amp could make your ears bleed. Loud does not equal good. However, if volume is what you're looking for, check into high efficiency (>96db/w/m) speakers from Cerwin Vega or Klipsch. The latter will offer better sound quality, but the former may be more durable.
Dusty Chalk
11-06-2006, 03:20 PM
my system will make u deaf That's appealing.
basite
11-07-2006, 07:39 AM
well ive got 2 of em hooked up accordin to my output meters the sytem has been pushed to a total of over 4oo watts is that loud enough for u????????
that, would, indeed, mean... Nothing at all
if you have speakers with a low efficiency, they would most likely just play, but not really 'deafening'
watt doesn't mean alot you know, it is something, but when you say 'the output meters pushed a total of over 400 watts' it is nothing.
And, Please, alot of people asked it before,
What budget would you have in mind?
without that, we can't really help you, well we can, but what's a man with a list of thousands of speakers??
2325fan
11-10-2006, 08:50 PM
im new here so sorry bout this budget is bout a grand
2325fan
11-10-2006, 08:51 PM
sry bout that
2325fan
11-10-2006, 08:52 PM
i like deep bass i listen to everythin cept jazz an opra budget is bout a grand
basite
11-11-2006, 05:59 AM
deep bass, volume, a grand budget, you could audition the high end cerwin vegas, (not the party speaker crap) the wooden ones, there are some with woofers up to 15" and they all have a high efficiency that means they'll go loud without needing alot of power.
also try klipsh, not sure which ones.
wharfedale will do fine too maybe, the diamond 9.6 comes at 650$ a pair i think,
or maybe monitor audio, but theyr'e not really ment to go loud loud, they are more for quality, the silver reference 6 comes at $1000 and the 8 comes at $1300 i think,
maybe b&w dm604's they come at $1200 a pair, go loud enough and play nice, really there are alot of possebilities in your budget range, anyways, always remember that loud doesn't mean good, also, keep in mind that you can drive almost every normal speaker with your amps, with that i mean that you can use 100 watt speakers and don't turn the volume up too much, or you can go for 500 watt speakers and do turn up the volume.
2325fan
11-11-2006, 09:51 AM
thanx im gonna look into vegas an the klipsh
jrhymeammo
11-11-2006, 09:58 AM
So, you wouldnt wanna go a pair of Bookshelf and a huge powered sub?
jrhymeammo
11-11-2006, 10:10 AM
You may also want to consider KEF. I've always thought they were incredible speakers. But I've only heard KEF Reference with Class A tube amps so I can't comment on others
You may want to keep your good eye on this site.
http://buy0.audiogon.com/cgia/fsb.pl?spkrfull&1&ctg&st1
-JRA
2325fan
11-11-2006, 03:09 PM
no book shelves thanx i like the big floor speakers lol
basite
11-12-2006, 08:58 AM
be sure to look up some more information on them, and don't forget to audition them, if possible, at your home. When you go for the cerwin vega speakers, the $1000 budget will surely be enough, klipsch might be a problem when you take the better models.
let us know what you came up with.
Greetings,
Basite.
2325fan
11-12-2006, 01:47 PM
i bought a set of vegas 950 it cost me
basite
11-13-2006, 08:59 AM
good news you found what you want,
Which ones did you buy?
be sure to let us know what you think of them and post some pics...
Greetings,
Basite.
poneal
11-13-2006, 02:24 PM
thanx im gonna look into vegas an the klipsh
I will be coming out with my audiophile pro speaker system. I'm guessing it will be about 95db-97db efficient. It will be using a 15" Eminence Kappa Pro 15LF, a 6.5" PHL 1120 true midrange, and an aurum cantus G2Si Ribbon for the tweeter in about a 100liter vented box. It will be capable of taking 300watts easily and play at 118db without groaning. The box will look like this:
http://www.pesupport.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=316106
If 91db-92db is efficient see my link to my 3.5ways. They're good to about 105db or so.
Paul
2325fan
11-13-2006, 06:03 PM
i bought em off my buddys dads store there 15 an they bump like hell!!!!!!!!! i couldnt tell u the model number rite now he had to rebuild them a customer beat them up an stripped out the drivers hes gettin me all the info on them wen i get it ill post it here
AudioBack
11-27-2006, 06:51 AM
The older DCMs were very efficient and sucked lots of power. I used to have the KX-10s. Truth be told, 250 to 300 watts is not that much power to be worried about. I used to have a Mackie 1400 pro audio amp driving my Paradigm Monitor 9s. 250 into 8 ohms, 425 into 4ohms. I drove the amp into the red several times. Music was extremely loud and the Paradigms took it with ease. DCM or Cerwin Vega should have not problems. It won't sound very good, but I'm assuming that's not the point.
njspeer
12-28-2006, 03:45 PM
A 250 watt amplifier can typically be played no louder than 25 watts becasue most music has a ten to one peak to average ratio. So if the volume is set so the peaks don't clip, the maximum average level ends up around 25 Watts. That is the amount of heat the speakers will need to dissipate and almost all ordinary speakers can handle that amount.
While it's true that speakers do dissipate some heat, most of the power (~99%) is dissipated in the form of sound waves.
hermanv
12-28-2006, 04:26 PM
While it's true that speakers do dissipate some heat, most of the power (~99%) is dissipated in the form of sound waves.I believe you will find that your figures are backwards. 1 to 2% of the power in watts comes out as sound waves.
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