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GMichael
08-31-2006, 11:40 AM
The facts essential to solving the problem-which can indeed be solved by combining deduction, analysis, and sheer persistence-are as follows:

1. There are five houses, each of a different color and inhabited by men of different nationalities, with different pets, drinks and automobiles.

2. The Englishman lives in a red house.

3. The Spaniard owns a dog.

4. Coffee is drunk in the green house.

5. The Ukrainian drinks tea.

6. The green house is immediately to the right of the ivory house.

7. The Ford driver owns snails.

8. A toyota driver lives in the yellow house.

9. Milk is drunk in the middle house.

10. The Norwegian lives in the first house on the left.

11. The man who drives the Chevy lives in the house next to the man with the fox.

12. A Toyota is parked at the house next to the house where the horse is kept.

13. The Dodge owner drinks orange juice.

14. The Japanese owner owns a Porche.

15. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.

Now, who drinks water and who ownes the zebra?

GMichael
08-31-2006, 01:39 PM
This forum is filled with good minds. I know you people can get this.

GMichael
08-31-2006, 04:27 PM
Don't give up on this. I know you can do it.

ForeverAutumn
08-31-2006, 05:39 PM
Give me some time. I love **** like this. I'm up for the challenge! But if I find out that there's no real answer and you're just pulling my leg, I'm gonna tell the whole world that you have a pink kitchen and you like it.

GMichael
08-31-2006, 05:45 PM
Give me some time. I love **** like this. I'm up for the challenge! But if I find out that there's no real answer and you're just pulling my leg, I'm gonna tell the whole world that you have a pink kitchen and you like it.

I do have a pink kitchen and I do like it. H.ll, I even posted pics of it for the whole world to see.
But there really is an answer. Can I pull on your leg anyhow?

PAT.P
08-31-2006, 06:04 PM
Im not doing your homework:ihih:

paul_pci
08-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Well this is what I came up with:

The Norweigen lives in a yellow house, first on the left, therefore has a toyota. Because of the rules on the arrangement of colors matching nationality and nationality matching drinks, I deduce that it is the Norweigen who owns the zebra and drinks water, primarily because I think water is the only option for the norweigen. The norweigen, as far I figured cannot drink coffee, or orange juice or tea or milk. I hope this is right as I could not complete all possible arrangements.

ForeverAutumn
08-31-2006, 07:17 PM
Well this is what I came up with:

The Norweigen lives in a yellow house, first on the left, therefore has a toyota. Because of the rules on the arrangement of colors matching nationality and nationality matching drinks, I deduce that it is the Norweigen who owns the zebra and drinks water, primarily because I think water is the only option for the norweigen. The norweigen, as far I figured cannot drink coffee, or orange juice or tea or milk. I hope this is right as I could not complete all possible arrangements.

I also got that the Norwegian drinks water, but confirmation of the Zebra will have to wait until tomorrow.

paul_pci
08-31-2006, 09:00 PM
Your right; my scheme accounts for the water but not the animal.

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 04:04 AM
Your right; my scheme accounts for the water but not the animal.
Nope, I think you're right paul, I got the same answer of water and zebra...
The animal scheme is as follows:

Spaniard = dog
ford = snails,
Horse = norwegian's neighbor
by default, that leaves zebra and fox...just need to place the fox...50/50 chance?!


of course, i could be wrong....

GMichael
09-01-2006, 04:58 AM
You guys & dolls are on the right track with most of this. But not all is correct. I will PM the answer to anyone who wants to give up.

GMichael
09-01-2006, 05:01 AM
Nope, I think you're right paul, I got the same answer of water and zebra...
The animal scheme is as follows:

Spaniard = dog
ford = snails,
Horse = norwegian's neighbor
by default, that leaves zebra and fox...just need to place the fox...50/50 chance?!


of course, i could be wrong....

11. The man who drives the Chevy lives in the house next to the man with the fox.

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 05:34 AM
ok, pretty darn sure Norway guy = fox now!...I isolated his neighbors facts to solve it...
His neighbor is Ukranian or japanese, because he can't be spanish, english or norwegian on accounts of clues 1,2, and 15.
If he was Japanese he owns a Porche.

If he was Ukranian he drinks tea.

We know neighbor doesn't drive Ford or Toyota, or Drive a Dodge AND drink OJ on account of that mutual relationship. We know he doesn't drink oj, water, coffee (clue 4) or milk (clue 9), so that leaves Tea, which means neighbor = Ukranian.

So the neighbor now doesn't drive the porche, Toyota, Dodge or ford, so he drives a Chevy...

Now we solve the Spaniards profile then place the houses:

Spaniard owns a dog, and doesn't drive Ford, Toyota, Chevy, or Porche, so that leaves the dodge and OJ!!!
Which means he can't be the middle milk house and must be the Ivory house...House order is:
Yellow, Blue (and since green coffee house follows Ivory), Red, Ivory Green.

So the middle milk house is Red, which means the English dude lives there...and the Japanese Porche driver is at the end in the green house. Only car left is that ford with the snails.

Since the blue house has the chevy, next to the fox, Blue house has the fox, and greeb house has the zebra!!!

So the answer is Norwegian = water
Japanese = Zebra

Am I even close?

GMichael
09-01-2006, 05:43 AM
Blue house has the fox?

11. The man who drives the Chevy lives in the house next to the man with the fox.

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 05:46 AM
Blue house has the fox?

11. The man who drives the Chevy lives in the house next to the man with the fox.
Meant yellow house had fox....

Resident Loser
09-01-2006, 07:45 AM
...important question:

Who stole the kishka?

BTW...the man who owns the fox, drinks water and the man who lives in the green house, owns the zebra...and in my version (the one I'm familiar with, that is) they don't own cars, they smoke cigarettes...

jimHJJ(...and the green grass grew all around, all around...)

GMichael
09-01-2006, 07:50 AM
...important question:

Who stole the kishka?

BTW...the man who owns the fox, drinks water and the man who lives in the green house, owns the zebra...and in my version (the one I'm familiar with, that is) they don't own cars, they smoke cigarettes...

jimHJJ(...and the green grass grew all around, all around...)

That's the old version and the answer can be found on the internet.

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 08:49 AM
The blue house owns the horse.

A Toyota is parked next to the house where the horse is kept.

I can't remember how I figured it out but the Norwegian lives in the first house on the left, which is yellow and he drives a Toyota. Since the Norwegian lives in the first house (and drives the Toyota), there can only be one house next to him. Therefore, that house has the horse.

Also, The Norwegian lives next to the Blue house, so the horse house is blue.

So, here's the dilemma that I'm trying to figure out. I think the key is clue number 11. I thought that before GMichael posted that clue earlier.

The man who drives the Chevy lives in the house next to the man with the fox.

So, who drives the Chevy? Is it the man in the blue house with the horse, or not? If it is, then the Norwegian has the fox. If it's not then, by process of elimination (see Kex's post on animals), the Norwegian has the Zebra.

AND NO CHEATING BY LOOKING THIS UP ON THE INTERNET!!!!

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 08:52 AM
Yellow, Blue (and since green coffee house follows Ivory), Red, Ivory Green.

Couldn't the house order be Yellow, Blue, Ivory, Green, Red?

paul_pci
09-01-2006, 09:00 AM
Couldn't the house order be Yellow, Blue, Ivory, Green, Red?

That's the house order that I formulated last night.

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 09:06 AM
Couldn't the house order be Yellow, Blue, Ivory, Green, Red?
No, there's a clue that prevents this if you keep going...

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 09:09 AM
That's the house order that I formulated last night.

I think that you guys are getting stuck by forgetting Clue 9. "Milk is drunk in the middle house."

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 10:05 AM
I think that you guys are getting stuck by forgetting Clue 9. "Milk is drunk in the middle house."

But I see nothing that leads to the conclusion that milk is drunk in the red house. Or that the middle house is red.

I came up with two possible house orders last night...

Yellow, Blue, Red, Ivory, Green
or

Yellow, Blue, Ivory, Green, Red.

I could find nothing that confirmed either order. Kex, if I'm missing something, please share.

kexodusc
09-01-2006, 11:04 AM
The Spaniard can't be in the milk house (dodge and OJ), and he must be in the Ivory house...for him to be in the ivory house, clue 6 forces the ivory house to be house # 4, left to right. This is because he drives a dodge and drinks the oj (not milk in the middle house).
You may wish to refer to my earlier post to see how i arrived at the spaniards profile (cars isolated it for me by eliminating possibilities)

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Please excuse me for a few minutes while I go clean up the mess made from my head exploding.

GMichael
09-01-2006, 12:59 PM
Hint: Make up little sticky notes with each of the pieces of information given. Then put them together like pieces of a puzzle. Should take about 10 minutes.

paul_pci
09-01-2006, 03:31 PM
I put together a "can go together" "can't go together" list and went from there. Got the water question, felt satisfied, now I'm gonna watch FA clean up her head.

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 06:11 PM
ok, pretty darn sure Norway guy = fox now!...I isolated his neighbors facts to solve it...
His neighbor is Ukranian or japanese, because he can't be spanish, english or norwegian on accounts of clues 1,2, and 15.
If he was Japanese he owns a Porche.

If he was Ukranian he drinks tea.

We know neighbor doesn't drive Ford or Toyota, or Drive a Dodge AND drink OJ on account of that mutual relationship. We know he doesn't drink oj, water, coffee (clue 4) or milk (clue 9), so that leaves Tea, which means neighbor = Ukranian.

So the neighbor now doesn't drive the porche, Toyota, Dodge or ford, so he drives a Chevy...

Now we solve the Spaniards profile then place the houses:

Spaniard owns a dog, and doesn't drive Ford, Toyota, Chevy, or Porche, so that leaves the dodge and OJ!!!
Which means he can't be the middle milk house and must be the Ivory house...House order is:
Yellow, Blue (and since green coffee house follows Ivory), Red, Ivory Green.

So the middle milk house is Red, which means the English dude lives there...and the Japanese Porche driver is at the end in the green house. Only car left is that ford with the snails.

Since the blue house has the chevy, next to the fox, Blue house has the fox, and greeb house has the zebra!!!

So the answer is Norwegian = water
Japanese = Zebra

Am I even close?

Okay, I have pieced my head back together, consumed a few Cosmopolitan's and am back at work on this puzzle.

Kex, I have reviewed this post in detail. I don't see how you concluded that the Norwegian's neighbour (who, I agree, must be either the Ukranian or Japanese) can't drink orange juice. I also don't see how you concluded that the Spaniard can't drive a Chevy.

BTW, here's how I chose to approach this....

ForeverAutumn
09-01-2006, 06:19 PM
Got my hubby working on this now. He's way smarter than I am. Let's see how he fares. :ihih:

trollgirl
09-01-2006, 06:44 PM
...when no Zebra is mentioned in the setup? Are we to assume that each neighbor owns one and only one pet?

Laz

Bernd
09-02-2006, 02:09 AM
...when no Zebra is mentioned in the setup? Are we to assume that each neighbor owns one and only one pet?

Laz

The exact reason why I am still in the starting blocks.:confused:

Peace

Bernd:16:

GMichael
09-02-2006, 01:44 PM
...when no Zebra is mentioned in the setup? Are we to assume that each neighbor owns one and only one pet?

Laz

Yes, only one drink per household also. Strange world.

ForeverAutumn
09-02-2006, 07:51 PM
My husband solved the full puzzle. However, he had to make an assumption to do so.

GMichael, are we to assume that the person who drinks water and the person who owns the Zebra are two different people?

If so, then the because the Norwegian drinks water, he can't also own the Zebra. Therefore, the Japanese guy owns the Zebra.

kexodusc
09-03-2006, 03:01 AM
My husband solved the full puzzle. However, he had to make an assumption to do so.

GMichael, are we to assume that the person who drinks water and the person who owns the Zebra are two different people?

If so, then the because the Norwegian drinks water, he can't also own the Zebra. Therefore, the Japanese guy owns the Zebra.

If you follow through to completion, and eliminate possibilities, you don't have to make that assumption...there's only one possible solution

ForeverAutumn
09-03-2006, 06:27 AM
If you follow through to completion, and eliminate possibilities, you don't have to make that assumption...there's only one possible solution

That may be true, but we're not seeing it. Neither my Hubby nor I can find any way to solve this conclusively, without making that assumption.

kexodusc
09-03-2006, 06:49 AM
Okay, I have pieced my head back together, consumed a few Cosmopolitan's and am back at work on this puzzle.

Kex, I have reviewed this post in detail. I don't see how you concluded that the Norwegian's neighbour (who, I agree, must be either the Ukranian or Japanese) can't drink orange juice. I also don't see how you concluded that the Spaniard can't drive a Chevy.

BTW, here's how I chose to approach this....

Okay, neighbour is Japanese or Ukranian...if he's Japanese, he drives a Porche...If he's
ukranian, he drinks tea. Those are given clues. The key here is that the guy who drinks orange juice ALSO drives a dodge...get it? The ukranian drinks tea, not OJ so he can't drive the dodge...The Japanese drives a Porche, so he can't drink OJ. For him to drink Oj, he owns a Dodge, not possible...since the guy who drinks orange juice drives a dodge.

We arrive at the fact the Spaniard doesn't drive a Chevy because at this point Chevy is the only possible car for the Ukranian...we place the Ukranian in the blue house with the horse...Ford driver has snails...not a horse, so he doesn' drive a ford...or Porche, that's the Japanese guts...Toyota belongs to the Norweigan...that leaves the Chevy or the dodge...We know the dodge can't be at the house that drinks milk or coffee, so that places the dodge at the Ivory house, by process of elimination the Chevy is at the Ukranian's house, not the Spaniards.

GMichael
09-03-2006, 08:51 AM
anyone was wondering, Kex got the answer correct already.

ForeverAutumn
09-05-2006, 01:38 PM
Congratulations on solving this Kex! This was fun.

kexodusc
09-05-2006, 03:08 PM
Actually, I couldn't have done the first part so fast if not for you and paul...man, I was way off. Not too good at starting these things...

paul_pci
09-05-2006, 04:01 PM
Gald to help. It reminded me a bit of the analytical section of the GRE exam, which I hear is a lot like the LSAT.

ForeverAutumn
09-05-2006, 06:26 PM
The AR crew make a good team. :thumbsup:

ruby2red
05-24-2007, 08:47 AM
I believe the answer to "Who owns the zebra?" is the Japanese gentleman. Please, let me know if I am correct.
Thanks.
Harry A.