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Rick Vansloneker
05-29-2006, 05:50 AM
In the internet like on Ebay but not only there you may find a lot of tempting offers for high-end equipment including Magnepans, Quads, amps, you name it it's there. Most are from integer people but a large number of offerings are from scammers.

They offer desirable goods at a to-good-to-be-true price. Probably, in most situations they don't even have the advertized ware. If you bid the auctions are cancelled. The ads are intended to lure you into shady business and to rob you of your money.

The scammers use hacked usernames. Also they create usernames and feedback over a longer period of time, thus cultivating a good image that will be abused in deals that will generate money.

A site dedicated to Ebay scammers can be found here (http://www.freespaces.com/scamfinders/ebayscammers.htm), tips to avoid being scammed are listed here (http://www.freespaces.com/scamfinders/how.htm).

slbenz
05-29-2006, 08:32 PM
Rick,

Definitely agree with you 100%. I have seen many times in the last couple of months, one scammer using the same Magnepan 3.5 picture asking you to contact him directly vs. using the "Ask a Seller a Question" feature on eBay. I have requested eBay to shut this person's auction down at least ten times. To eBay's credit, they have done an excellent job to shut this person auction down everytime he posts. I haven't seen the Magnepan 3.5 ad in a couple of weeks. The hijacked user ID seems to be more prevalent these days on eBay. Buyer beware when the seller asks you to contact them directly via their own "personal" e-mail.

Slbenz

squeegy200
05-31-2006, 09:23 AM
There is a good article in eBay forums regarding account hijacking and how to prevent it. Paypal also has good information on protecting your account.

Many classic eBay scams are documented in their forums as well as in many books. Unfortunately, many people let their emotions overcome their better judgement when a questionable seller offers diserable items for sale.

I watched the Magnepan 3.5 ads. It was amazing the persistence of the fraudulent seller. As long as there are buyers willing to send him money, he will continue to post new ads under different names.

As with anything, it is best to become as educated as possible in order to prevent becoming a victim.

And for experienced buyers like SLBENZ to continue to point out criminals lurking in wait for unsuspecting victims. Thanks for your diligence!

Rick Vansloneker
05-31-2006, 01:21 PM
Speaking of 3.5s....
here's one on a hacked account

Bad category: Sporting Goods > Tennis > Racquets > Yonex
One day auction
Not allowed by Ebay: Buy it now Price 1200$
Cannot read or reply?: I cannot get in touch with you if you use the "Ask seller a question" option
Cannot empty mail boxes?: because i've reached the e-mail storage limit
Mail address is listed 4 times in a row:
safeebaybuy@aol.com
Shipping policy reads: Available to United States only
but advertises: free shipping(worldwide)



http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/RJB7JUCFWFJ0

slbenz
06-01-2006, 08:54 AM
Rick,

That's the one. The Walton, KY person who was very persistant for several weeks. Everytime I saw his/her ad, I reported it to eBay and they would shut down the auction. Thanks for pointing out the various discrepencies within this person's ad and sharing with us. Now back to my newest project, repairing one of my Magnepan IIIas midrange panel. Just picked up a used pair over the Memorial Day weekend and didn't realize one of the midrange panels was out. Luckily called Magnepan and spoke with Steve Winey, Jim Winey's son who told me they sell a DIY midrange repair kit for $50.00! Much better deal than shipping the speakers back for a total rebuild. Once I repair this one speaker, my home theater will have four Magnepan IIIas in each corner of my 5.1 system. Wish me luck on the repair.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-01-2006, 01:36 PM
Mr. Admaro is even more persistant as the MG 3.3 seller. We've seen this ad dozens of times in the past weeks. The images and text are copied and advertized by Chinese and Taiwanese auctioneers.

Again listed in weirdest categories, this time Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Car Tuning & Styling > Exterior Styling > Decals

This is a stolen user account. The user is from Philippines, yet the speakers should locate in London, United Kingdom.

In every ad he uses this exact line
You can buy it now for 800 euros. Contact me at admaro@msn.com sometimes 600 or 1000 or so euros.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/622DO0DX3F3W

Rick Vansloneker
06-01-2006, 01:36 PM
Mr. Admaro has numerous offerings on Ebay:

http://picserv.pixio.nl/~picserver/i.php?/9Y4X1R8KD908JA48/T6186HM31N3N/GIF/1149197699//n487

slbenz
06-01-2006, 09:19 PM
Rick,

I put in the report to eBay. Let's see how fast they can shut this guy down.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-02-2006, 03:26 AM
Thanks slbenz. But you know he will be back, and back, and back

Rick Vansloneker
06-04-2006, 12:43 AM
The Chinese ad, notice the same text and pictures as Mr. Admaro uses.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/O1DAFMH02Z98

Rick Vansloneker
06-06-2006, 11:18 AM
Say hello to an old friend. Mr. Admaro changed his username and moved from Philippines to the USA. But the Mags had to stay in London.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/HDYT7S7Q7642

slbenz
06-07-2006, 05:21 AM
These guys never learn to quit! Looks like we'll have to keep on reporting them to eBay and shut them down. When will it ever end?????

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-07-2006, 11:11 AM
Slbenz, Mr. Admaro says hello from Australia and became a power seller to! What a mighty career.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/5DQX20RK5T6G

squeegy200
06-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Wow, he just keeps coming back with another face on. That's probably 15 or 20 times I've seen him post. Maggie prospective buyers much be a lucrative bunch since he continues to target them. And he would not persist if his scam weren't profitable.

Thanks for your diligence!

squeegy200
06-07-2006, 01:38 PM
eBay has some good articles on prevention of Account theft. They also recommend unique passwords for eBay and another for Paypal account.

What is fascinating is the level of sophistication that are employed. One of the most successful is the eBay confirmation of purchase that is sent to eBay users. There is a "Dispute Sale" button at the bottom to report the fraudulent sale. The entire message looks absolutely legitimate but the link goes to a website in Asia. Researching the spoof I find that the link installs a bot on your local harddrive that enables your computer to cache and forward passwords and account login information to an unknown perpetrator somewhere in Asia. He then uses that information to infiltrate your accounts.

Even the most astute eBayers have fallen for this clever scam.

Rick Vansloneker
06-07-2006, 11:28 PM
And for the people responding to their ads they have fake Shipping Companies and fake Escrow Services.

Rick Vansloneker
06-08-2006, 01:56 PM
I got in touch with safebuy and now the speakers were in Romania, not Walton, Kentucky, United States, as advertized. But I told him or them that I have a branch in a nearby town and I could collect them there and save the shipping so he might give a price cut. But he never replied to me :(

How can anybody drop in such stupid mails I can't understand: no name, no address, no information just stupid hammering how the deal should be made.


Thank you for your interest in my sale! I want you to know I cannot accept financing because time is a real issue for me,this is why I am looking for a cash buyer.The purchase price is $1200 US including shipping and insurance.
The item is in Europe,Romania where I own an electric store and it will be shipped from here
on my expense.
I am requesting full secure payment. If you are not 100% satisfied with
this item,you will ship it back on my expense and you will receive your
entire payment back. I am sure this will not happen, because it is a state of
the art products and you will have no reason to reject it. My experience in
the sale business proved to me that quality is the key element to have a
successful business. Good faith and passion for winning has always been
my top priority and my most valued business approach. This is why I chose
ONLY secure pay. I prefer the payment to be hold by a third party and only
after you receive the product the payment has to be released to me..
Using a third party, you will be 100% secure that you will receive your
item after making the payment. I will be 100% secure that I will receive
the payment after you will receive and inspect the product. If you are not
satisfied with this or you find it not being as advertised, you can
reject it and you will receive your entire payment back. It's the best
solution for an international purchase, don't you agree?


First you have to know that shipping and payment will be done via Shipping.EurCargo is a
shipping company that also acts as a third party and intermediate between the buyer and the seller.It is specialized in international transactions having offices all over the world.
Here are just a few facilities Shipping.EurCargo offers its clients
a) If you will not receive the item as i described to you,although this is not the
case,Shipping.EurCargo will refund you with 100% from the whole amount which you
paid me.Even in case you will not receive the item,they will refund you the money.
b)You will send the payment to a Shipping.EurCargo representative and you will give the payment details to them, i won't know anything about the payment until you received the item.The item is taken to their warehouse for check ups and remains in their possession.After you sent the payment they ship it using their own Air Cargo service. Shipping will be 100% insuranced and will last just 3-4 days.
Important :
In order to start a case with EscrowEuropa and start the transaction i will need your your email address. After that they will notify you all the details regarding the shipping and payment.
So here it is how it works:
You send me your email address. With it i start a case at www.Shipping.EurCargo.com
(please do check their website) and register our transaction: Seller details, Buyer details, Item details, Price and Shipping address. As soon as i did that i am required to take the item and its papers at their warehouse here in Braila Romania and leave it there.They check the item see if it fits the description and pack it for shipping.They will notify you by email immediately as they receive the item with the payment and shipping details. You send them the payment and they ship the item to your address. They will provide you with a tracking number that you can check at any time on their website and see how much time it remains until it reaches you. After you received the item they simply send me the money and the transaction is completed.
The whole process usually takes 3-4 days.

I have made several deals working with them and i am very pleased. They are very reliable, their Customer Department answer very fast and i never had a problem.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/8NWKU03728R3

Mindless
06-08-2006, 09:25 PM
Hey guys found this forum searching a shady listing on ebay guess who it is ? http://cgi.ebay.com/Precision-Power-Art-Series-Package-white_W0QQitemZ7773475577QQcategoryZ20424QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
He has a whole slew of things under this name . I am trying to report it and dont seem to be getting anywhere. If anyone can help please please do .. Thanks
John

Btw i didnt lose anything from him just concerned

Mindless
06-08-2006, 09:29 PM
http://search-desc.ebay.com/admaro-msn-com_W0QQamp;sspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcat refZC5QQfclZ3QQflocZ1QQfromZR6QQfrppZ50QQfrtsZ100Q QfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfssZ0QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQft sZ2QQsaaffZafdefaultQQsacatZQ2d1QQsacurZ0QQsaslcZ0 QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZadmaroQ40msnQ2ecom
Heres all 130 of his auctions spaniing diffrent id's

Hint search his fake email in the titles and descriptions

Rick Vansloneker
06-08-2006, 09:55 PM
Two more pairs of MG3.3s. Man there must be dozens of them. Mindless I bet all of the pictures and descriptions are fake and stolen from others.

Why doesn't Ebay have a filter that sorts out the known clues like admaro, or safebuy?

And how come these crooks still haven't lost their email accounts?

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl[IMG]http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/CNRXX569C59G

Rick Vansloneker
06-08-2006, 09:56 PM
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/3143Y1U7Y39N

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/CNRXX569C59G

Mindless
06-08-2006, 10:11 PM
Im not sure my friend .. I only hope people realize to google anything suspicious .. This thread has seriously saved me some time and money .. Hope others see it

Rick Vansloneker
06-09-2006, 01:13 PM
Busy day for admaro:

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/R7K8DYMNS4IP

squeegy200
06-09-2006, 03:43 PM
I found at least 16 listed items using the "SuperCrewGoat" ID. This guy masquerades as several different IDs simultaneously selling all manner of high end gear. I guess all it would take is one unsuspecting buyer to "Buy it Now" for it to be worth all his effort.

Rick Vansloneker
06-10-2006, 02:03 AM
Todays attempt:

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/X04FKIOIJB70

Rick Vansloneker
06-11-2006, 11:41 PM
Today three more:

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/27RMBV98Q2JJ

slbenz
06-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Rick,

Here is my ad currently on eBay. Please do not delete. Can't believe those scammers. They will never learn to quit.

Slbenz

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9740891105&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Rick Vansloneker
06-13-2006, 12:37 AM
I would be very interested if I lived closer. Good luck with the sale.
btw I can't nor will want to delete anything.

Rick Vansloneker
06-13-2006, 12:38 AM
Today admaro is bryceheinz.

slbenz
06-13-2006, 09:21 PM
Today admaro is bryceheinz.

Rick,

Been reporting our good friend to the eBay authorities as fast as he can post. The eBay people are quick to shut him down. Too bad you are across the pond or would let you audition the speakers I have for sale. Finished my repair of the Magnepan IIIa which replaced my 1.5s. Now my home theater is sounding the way it should be. It should now that I am surrounded by IIIas, front and rear.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-14-2006, 05:46 AM
admaro=sellum1=marine!36=darling*denim

squeegy200
06-14-2006, 10:45 AM
admaro=sellum1=marine!36=darling*denim


Today he is Orangewillys
item number: 6289274429

How do you report this guy to eBay management to let them know he's reposted? Can you also notify the owner of the hijacked ID by emailing the seller?

Rick Vansloneker
06-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Well apparently they don't get access to the hijacked ID his email, that's why they ask to contact on their own email.

Like in this ad, where Mr. Admaro seem to have changed his layout and also appears to have another email.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/97M5F322T8T7

Rick Vansloneker
06-14-2006, 01:16 PM
And another scammer I ran into http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZ14056pmQQhtZ-1

slbenz
06-14-2006, 05:54 PM
Today he is Orangewillys
item number: 6289274429

How do you report this guy to eBay management to let them know he's reposted? Can you also notify the owner of the hijacked ID by emailing the seller?

I use the "Contact Us" link which then will ask you to choose an area you think the auction may fall under. I have already reported four of Admano Magnepan 3.3 and one Magnepan 1.4 auctions just today using the Contact Us link. Ebay is pretty quick to delete these auctions once a violation is reported.

To Admano:

GET A LIFE! WE ARE WATCHING YOU!! YOUR ADS WILL ALWAYS BE FOUND AND DELETED.

Mindless
06-14-2006, 07:19 PM
Watch the PSP lots and large gaming system lots . I found around 300 listings yesterday and the day before that were frudulent . Ebay will be getting a bill soon

Rick Vansloneker
06-15-2006, 12:34 AM
Today the victim is snowbordinglife.

Rick Vansloneker
06-15-2006, 11:55 PM
And n19alm is the poor guy now.

squeegy200
06-16-2006, 05:04 PM
He (They) must be using power tools to post so many ads so quickly. This is definitely an organized effort with some sophisticated tools.

slbenz
06-16-2006, 06:11 PM
He (They) must be using power tools to post so many ads so quickly. This is definitely an organized effort with some sophisticated tools.

No kidding! As fast I report the fraudulent auction from Admaro, it posts another one almost immediately.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-17-2006, 01:42 AM
Yes there is software to post Ads to Ebay (and other sites).

Rick Vansloneker
06-18-2006, 10:21 AM
Poor lovepennies got hacked.

Well I think the message is clear now so no more updates about this from me. Be careful and better safe then sorry.

slbenz
06-18-2006, 12:07 PM
Poor lovepennies got hacked.

Well I think the message is clear now so no more updates about this from me. Be careful and better safe then sorry.


Rick,

No kidding. I reported this one to eBay as well. I'll be keeping track of our nemesis, Admaro and his Magnepan 3.3 ads. At least my Magnepan 1.5s sold for a very good price. Will be shipping them tomorrow to the new owner. Now I'll have more room in my home theater and not have six Magnepan speakers in there.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-18-2006, 11:19 PM
...not have six Magnepan speakers in there.

Slbenz

What a relief uh?

:ihih:

bfalls
06-19-2006, 04:58 AM
Please post how you're able to detect the fraudulant auctions on ebay for the rest of us, so we don't fall prey to their scams.

Rick Vansloneker
06-19-2006, 11:19 PM
Most will match one or more of these clues:

-listed in completely off-topic categories e.g. Magnepans in Home & Garden > Heating/ Cooling/ Air > Ceiling Fan
-anonymous bidding
-item location doesn't match seller location
-1 day auction
-free shipping offered
-item to good to be true e.g. They have just come back from the Magnepan Factory and were totally rebuilt. They were completely reworked with new Planar Film, new Grill Cloth, and New Ribbon Tweeters. There is not a single scratch, dent or mark on them. They have been lovingly cared for and are now ready to be a part of your audio system. I will include with the speakers approx 10 ft per speaker of Sound Runner High Definition Quad Oxygen Free Copper Wire. I unpacked them and set them up just to test them and make sure everything is perfect. They will ship in Factory Cartons with original manuals.
-price to good to be true
-repeated use of the word trust
-sellers email was not hacked that's why they repeatedly ask you to contact on a different mail address and think up a story like my Ebay mail box is full
-seller wants you to complete a transaction outside of eBay
-google for the email they want you to use, check it here (http://www.fraudtracking.com/home/default.asp) or here (http://www.freespaces.com/scamfinders/emails.htm)
-if you do mail (better don't) and ask difficult questions like serial number, or ask for their phone number and address they don't reply
-if they reply their English is terrible with not even a name under it, they want you to use a shipping company and escrow service of their choice, they ask for your email address -since you sent them a mail they should know
-if you view seller's other items there is a long list of desirable goodies that also match above clues

Mindless
06-21-2006, 04:19 PM
Cant belive they dont catch on to this .. Seriously we need to assemble a team and start charging ebay for this ..

slbenz
06-22-2006, 05:34 AM
Cant belive they dont catch on to this .. Seriously we need to assemble a team and start charging ebay for this ..

Sounds like a good idea to me. I just reported three auctions to eBay that our friend admaro@msn.com had up yesterday. All three are down now but he just put up another auction on this morning using another hacked user ID found from another unsuspecting eBay user on his numerous auctions that he puts up constantly. I don't understand as well why eBay just doesn't create a list of known abusers and ban them from using their site.

Slbenz

Rick Vansloneker
06-23-2006, 10:33 PM
It's not our duty to scan Ebay for scammers. We showed our loyalty and did a fair job reporting dozens of scams. But it's up to Ebay to get rid of this problem. They can scan the site for fraud and remove scam auctions. Also they can report the scam to the authorities and they can do investigations. Surely it must be possible some way to trace the scammers. We showed the way, but they should go it.

Rick Vansloneker
07-11-2006, 02:36 PM
Didn't see him for a while but he's back and changed his email to fststone@msn.com

hermanv
07-20-2006, 02:02 PM
I recently lost all my gear to a home fire. Naturally I wanted to replace it and being human looked for good used prices. I ran into an endless number of high end audio product scams.

All were easy to spot once you know to be suspicious:
1. Sellers E-Bay name and e-mail doesn't match the place your are asked to contact was the biggest giveaway.
2. Demands for wire transfer or cashiers check only.
3. Item shipped free by air no less form the other side of the planet. In many cases the shipping costs (as per the airline) exceeded the asking price.
4. Exact same photographs and pasted text from another ad.

An additional scam, after loosing a bid, suddenly second chance offers arrive in your inbox. Check those addresses, yep wrong! One offered to sell me an item "new in box" that had been out of production for over 10 years.

True audiophiles are easy to spot, send an email ask some specific questions about some sonic detail, an honest seller can't wait to share his experiences with a piece of equipment, this is his hobby. Ask for the units serial number.

I did buy some expensive stuff on E-bay even after these experiences, once you are alert it's just not that hard to spot the crooks.

I did contact e-bay and they tried to stay ahead of the worst scammers, but one gets the impression they are overwhelmed.

Rick Vansloneker
07-21-2006, 01:43 PM
I'm very sorry for you you lost everything in the fire and I hope you are recovering good.

btw, here (http://cgi.ebay.nl/Magnepan-3-6R-Pristine_W0QQitemZ280008230798QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3 6454QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is what I think is another trick:

Please contact us first-otherwise your bid will be canceled:
alexandrumarius.safta@gmail.com

hermanv
07-21-2006, 02:09 PM
I'm very sorry for you you lost everything in the fire and I hope you are recovering good. Thank you for the nice thought, I would not wish this to happen to anyone.

Even 1 year later we still remember things we no longer have. Little stuff, a special tool, a piece of just the right cable, oh yeah that knob. Nothing compared to important papers and documents and of course the photographs.

We were insured, but you have to pry the money from their hands.

On the bright side; it is the best (read believable by wife) reason for a round of upgrades I've ever found :).

ps: I was born in Enschede, moved to the US in 1955.

slbenz
08-04-2006, 06:06 AM
Can't believe these scammers on eBay. This one used a stolen user ID and posted the same Magnepan 3.6 speakers 25 times!! What is more amazing is that there are gullible people (2) that have bidded on these speakers even though they can clearly see multiple auctions of the same thing and telling you to contact the seller directly via their "posted" e-mail or they won't accept your bid. Live and learn.

Slbenz


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E-Stat
08-05-2006, 06:32 AM
I recently lost all my gear to a home fire. Naturally I wanted to replace it and being human looked for good used prices.
That's terrible! I'm sure there were things lost that are virtually unreplaceable. I lot of my old vinyl is simply not available in CD.

Yes, used can be a great way to go with well built gear. I've purchased/sold stuff over at Audiogon as well.

Best of luck in your search.

rw

Florian
08-05-2006, 06:38 AM
Very sorry to hear that Herman!

I could imagine ever loosing my gear in a fire, its unreplaceable.

Good luck

-Flo

bobsticks
08-09-2006, 01:27 PM
I saw this guy all over e-bay today. He goes by the seller name of sannman99 or English philth(particularly appropriate) or hozvicka. In all cases buyers are directed to avoid the e-bay checkout and e-mail this schyster at sales@aol.com.

This guys not even very good, advertising MLs and McIntoshes for $399.00 regardless of make or model...

squeegy200
08-29-2006, 10:58 AM
This is a new twist to eBay fraud. I guess its a good reminder to use the checkout feature.

Local Pickup and Cash Only
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006400144,00.html

Rick Vansloneker
08-29-2006, 02:23 PM
Well first mistake was they did an off-Ebay deal what you never should do. Then buying a car from a stranger without even seeing it?
Going to a "meeting point" for the deal should make suspicious to.
Can't help thinking these people were pretty stupid.

slbenz
08-29-2006, 06:47 PM
Well first mistake was they did an off-Ebay deal what you never should do. Then buying a car from a stranger without even seeing it?
Going to a "meeting point" for the deal should make suspicious to.
Can't help thinking these people were pretty stupid.


Couldn't agree with you more.

Rick Vansloneker
08-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Here's a new one, a combination of scam and phising. If you click the link you are forwarded to a phising site. It is already removed by Ebay, I was just in time with the pics.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/GX0IL23WR0P8

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/8D6EEI526E9W


I also reported four cases of keyword spamming (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html), suddenly becoming popular amongst sellers and scammers. Two were scams and are removed, two apparently not interesting for Ebay and still there. That disappoints me.