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superpanavision70mm
04-28-2006, 09:14 AM
Although the package for the new region 1 special editon of EVENT HORIZON the 2-disc set is in fact in DTS 5.1. This is a rarity for Paramount, but this film was the 19th film Paramount released theatrically in DTS and it's great to finally have this underrated sci-fi/horror film to DVD in DTS. This is also a great example of superb low-end bass extension that will rattle the concrete from your foundation. Just thought people might want to know just in case they were not buying it because they weren't sure about the DTS.

musicman1999
04-28-2006, 11:33 AM
I would never not buy a film just because it did not have dts,but you are right about the bass,very deep sustained bass notes.Shook things on the wall upstairs.

bill

superpanavision70mm
04-28-2006, 02:46 PM
YOU may not be swayed by lack of DTS, but statisitcs show that there is a demand for DTS, otherwise why would there be a demand for DTS titles available in the foreign market. Simply put...DTS may not be the final determining factor, but none-the-less those that know how much better it is...will certainly wait for the film to finally be in DTS, just like with the re-issue of EVENT HORIZON.

Woochifer
04-28-2006, 06:39 PM
YOU may not be swayed by lack of DTS, but statisitcs show that there is a demand for DTS, otherwise why would there be a demand for DTS titles available in the foreign market. Simply put...DTS may not be the final determining factor, but none-the-less those that know how much better it is...will certainly wait for the film to finally be in DTS, just like with the re-issue of EVENT HORIZON.

What statistics are you citing? Whenever DVDs get reissued as new editions, there are any number of changes that might occur and from what I see, there's no consensus as to what approach generates the most new sales. Take your pick -- lower prices, new bonus features, remastered video, DTS soundtracks, etc. -- any combination of these factors have been tried with DVD reissues. The studios have been anything but consistent with how they issue and reissue DVD versions. And the reissued editions do not always improve upon the previous version.

On some reissues such as Terminator 2, The Bourne Identity, and The Fast and the Furious, the DTS soundtracks from earlier versions got jettisoned in favor of new documentary features on the latter editions. In the case of Gladiator, the DTS ES track was eliminated when the original two-disc set got reissued as a budget priced one-disc set. Plenty of other cases where newer DVD versions get decontented and reissued as a bargain title.

If you're citing better support for DTS overseas as evidence of strong demand for that audio format, then Universal's recent ambivalence towards DTS seems to indicate that they feel otherwise, since they are a part-owner of DTS. Their special edition reissues for Casino and The Blues Brothers were loaded with new documentary features and commentaries, but did not include DTS tracks. Same goes for more recent releases like King Kong, which did not include a DTS track with either the single-disc and two-disc sets.

My point is not to dump on DTS, but to point out that there's no consensus as to how much value it adds to a reissued DVD release, compared to other things such as improved video quality and new supplemental features. In contrast to Universal, Fox has been putting DTS tracks onto a lot of its new releases while dialing back on the other features, and adding DTS to a lot of their special edition reissues (but not all of them). In yet another approach, Warner has been releasing a succession of two-disc special editions with great supplementary content and video quality, yet aside from the Batman movie set, none of them have included DTS. Obviously, these studios have come to very different conclusions about what consumers want.

With some exceptions, Paramount has been more about cutting prices to stimulate demand than doing anything new with their older titles until recently. Hopefully the reissue for Event Horizon is an indication that Paramount wants to put more effort into creating better special edition titles (aside from the Star Trek collector's editions, I don't know of too many two-disc DVD sets that they've done).

An alternative view might simply be that these reissues get tailored for specific markets and what consumers in those markets presumably demand. If you say that DTS is more popular overseas than in North America (or at least has had better studio support over there), that very well might be analogous to SACD, which has apparently fared better in Europe than in the U.S.

superpanavision70mm
04-28-2006, 11:30 PM
Paramount re-issued the Jack Ryan DVD's with the inclusion of DTS, as you mentioned they did some of the Star Trek feature films, which sold very well. Casino was a 3-disc DTS set overseas from Universal. Donnie Darko was issued in the U.K. exactly as the special edition here in the U.S., only one major difference....DTS. Finding Nemo, Monsters inc, the Lion King....yep....all same except DTS. Universal/Dreamworks made the mistake with the re-issue of GLADIATOR and to drop the DTS-ES track, but decided to not compromise video quality with too much compression on the disc...this is just a simple way of getting out of doing another disc with the set, which would have been easy. People don't mind having the movie on 2 discs....oh yeah...Paramount/Fox re-issued TITANIC in DTS as a special edition 3 disc set because the film takes up the first two discs.

Thanks for the lesson on DVD's though.