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3-LockBox
12-13-2005, 01:35 AM
Been groovin on:

Coheed and Cambria 's last two CDs - yeah, as albums they get a little long in the tooth, but I sure hope they stick around.

Ayreon - Into The Electric Castle is an acquired taste, not as good Dream Sequncer set, but still fun. Arjen Lucassen is this generation's Alan Parsons.

Kino:Picture - Unabashed, unappolegetic, adult hard rock. Great writing and great musicianship, albeit a tad restrained for this group of guys.

OSI - heard that there was a follow-up due out next year...I'm in. I have listened to this steady since getting it. Interesting take on an old Neil Young song.

I finally got around to replacing a long lost CD; BOC's Fire Of Unknown Origin; a steller album and IMO, their last great one. Not a duff tune on the whole thing.

Spock's Beard:Feel Euphoria - you know, if you approached it as a debut album, you might give higher marks, but of course, everyone will compare it to what Neal did, or is currently doing on his own. But I'm sorry I hadn't picked this up sooner. There's more good that bad on this album. Especially since it came with this CD sampler from the rekkid cumpney; a sampler of artists from 2003. What a fantastic idea! So now I'll definately pick up Octane.


Oh well, I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff...

so, what are you waiting for? whaddidya listen 2?


PS- I'm going to go back to my stash of RR'ers comps and I'm gonna play em one after another...maybe that'll stir this place up.

MasterCylinder
12-13-2005, 04:49 AM
YES -- Fragile
YES -- Talk
PINK FLOYD -- Dark Side of the Moon

Mostly Classical stuff:
Grieg
Brahams
Rachmaninov 10 CD box set.................awesome.

noddin0ff
12-13-2005, 07:05 AM
I found Frank Black's album Honeycomb. I bought it months ago and put it in the car to listen to, then never did. Gave it a listen to today. It's a pretty decent album. Holds together well, more mellow and wistful than the earlier ones, which isn't very surprising. I like. It'll get some more listens.

Currently playing
Lou Reed: Set the Twilight Reeling--The particular track, Sex With Your Parents (Mother****er) Part II, is putting me in a better mood. Needed some more mean laughs.

John Coltrane: Africa-Brass (Greensleeves for a Xmas moment), Lush Life, Blue Train
Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring (it dumped 14" snow that day)
Medeski, Martin & Wood: End of the World Party
John Cougar Mellencamp: Uh Huh, Big Daddy
Gregory Tardy: Serendipity (Jazz, Sax, a debut album that's pretty good, it plays well with Coltrane. I guess it lacks memorable compositions. Musicianship is not lacking)
Porno for Pyros

GMichael
12-13-2005, 07:11 AM
Still breaking in my 3 T.S.O. CD's. Perfect for the X-mas season.

Ex Lion Tamer
12-13-2005, 08:01 AM
I listened to some of the very few '05 releases to determine which I like best. I got Of Montreal's The Sunlandic Twins album that Stone sent me and I like it quite a bit. The first half is more to my liking than the darker/weirder second half, but all-in-all a solid album and an interesting introduction (for me) to this band. Stone also sent me a copy of Sleater-Kinney's latest, which is a little more difficult a listen than the earlier albums of there's that I have, and ultimately somewhat less satisfying. Okkervil River's Black Sheep Boy is a nice album, though does sond a little too much like The Black Crowes, to leave me with more than a so-so reaction. Loved it at first, but it has grown tougher and tougher to get through the whole album in a sitting. I gave another listen to the British Sea Power album which I like a lot, but it still lacks the excitement of their first one. Still a very solid album that I see myself returning to for a long period of time. Beck's album Guero is also a favorite, I'm not a huge Beck fan, I love Mutations, never really fell for Odelay, and don't know any others, but Guero is solid from begining to end. Probably #2 for me this year. Spoon is probably my favorite, just typically solid Spoon-music, way better than the disappointing Kill The Moonlight, but a cut below their zenith of Girls Can Tell and A Series of Sneaks]. It does wane a little towards the end but over all the high points make this my favorite of the few '05 releases I've heard so far.

I also listened to not just one but two John Hiatt albums, Slow Turning and his masterpiece Bring the Family.

Finally I delved into the "A" section of my vinyl...Adam and the Ants Kings of the Wild Frontier, ...and you will Know us by the Trail of Dead's Source Tags and Codes; (where should these guys be filed, under "A" or "T"?) Joan Armatrading's excellent self titled and "Afghan Whigs" 1965. Next week....the "B's".

Stone
12-13-2005, 08:28 AM
...and you will Know us by the Trail of Dead's Source Tags and Codes; (where should these guys be filed, under "A" or "T"?) .

According to the Stone Anal-Retentive Guide to Organizing Music, under "A."

Davey
12-13-2005, 08:42 AM
Spent a lot of time with my favorite CD that I bought this year, Shack's Waterpistol. Always a great listen. Invigorating and life affirming. A real treasure from the early 90s that didn't find the marketplace until the good people at Marina in Hamburg, Germany finally made it so in 1995. Always grateful for the small treasures uncovered along my life's little journey, and this is one of them.

Mr MidFi
12-13-2005, 09:09 AM
I spent a couple of quality listens on My Morning Jacket's latest one, Z. It's like someone took some roots rock (Son Volt? Widespread Panic?), some Marvin Gaye, and some Radiohead, and threw them all together in a blender, then took the result and put it all through some heavy-duty reverb/echo.

OK, it's a lot better than I just made it sound. Some tracks are farking brilliant. Some are...odd. But the whole thing disturbs me in a good way, and I sense that it will grow on me considerably.

I have to agree with XLT that Spoon's latest is probably my #1 pick for the year (although I think I like Kill the Moonlight more than he does). But MMJ will almost certainly crack the top 5 with Z.

tentoze
12-13-2005, 10:02 AM
I spent a couple of quality listens on My Morning Jacket's latest one, Z. It's like someone took some roots rock (Son Volt? Widespread Panic?), some Marvin Gaye, and some Radiohead, and threw them all together in a blender, then took the result and put it all through some heavy-duty reverb/echo.

OK, it's a lot better than I just made it sound. Some tracks are farking brilliant. Some are...odd. But the whole thing disturbs me in a good way, and I sense that it will grow on me considerably.

I have to agree with XLT that Spoon's latest is probably my #1 pick for the year (although I think I like Kill the Moonlight more than he does). But MMJ will almost certainly crack the top 5 with Z.For me, Z continues to get better with each listen, and it was excellent the first time.

I got nothing to add here that anyone would care about- I've been on a junk store vinyl binge lately that has yielded some terrific (to me) music, though.

Stone
12-13-2005, 10:44 AM
Pinetop Seven – The Night’s Bloom
I think this is the best thing they’ve done so far. Very nice album.

Lucinda Williams – s/t

Kate Bush – Hounds of Love

The Chap – Ham
I’m hurtin’.

The Beatles – 1967-1970 (the “blue” album)

British Sea Power – Open Season
I’m with Mark on this one. I like it, but I wish it had more of the energy of the debut.

Ray Davies – Thanksgiving Day EP

Troy
12-13-2005, 10:56 AM
I played (or at least skimmed) all my alphabetical C and a few D artists for ripping to the iPod. A few hilites:

Camel, especially elements from the later albums like "Dust and Dreams"
Cardiacs- Songs for Ships. A track from this was cut from the last CRSV disc.
I love them Cardigans too. She has such a sexy voice . . .
Seems like almost every Church album has a few great cuts.
The Cirque Du Soleil soundtracks sound really dated . . .
Colony- forgot I had this- Kinda surfy, roots rock, but with thunderous tribal drumming. Weird.
Ditto "The Concussion Ensemble." Fusion and rock instrumentals with 3 drummers. Definitely overkill, but I like it.
Buncha Devo songs too. Hilarious band.
Nice to rediscover Josh Clayton-Felt, the ex School of Fish guy's solo albums. Pretty much perfect artpop.
Does Stewart Copeland have any 2 albums that sound the same?
Love all that later Thomas Dolby stuff too. "The Keys to Her Ferrari" is just terriffic.
Played a ton of Alice Cooper too. Lots of great music there, especially "Welcome to my Nightmare."

It's a blast to rediscover all this stuff, some of which haven't been played in YEARS. Also nice to weed out stuff that falls flat for me for the used store.

tentoze
12-13-2005, 11:14 AM
[QUOTE=Stone]Pinetop Seven – The Night’s Bloom
I think this is the best thing they’ve done so far. Very nice album.

/QUOTE]

This made it onto my wishlist from somewhere- know nothing about them, but wherever I read about this album made me want to give it a shot.

Jim Clark
12-13-2005, 11:25 AM
A couple of really cool bootleg DVD's entertained me for a while last week. First up was A-Ha, remember them? Alive and kicking in Norway, big time. A corp. sponsored event that drew 100,000 screaming (and aging) fans. The standards were excellent and a couple of the newer tracks were just as good, albeit a lot more heavy on guitar. Video was a touch grainy but the audio was exceptional.

Found an Arcade Fire DVD torrent online and grabbed that too. Totally cool and I was completely immersed in the Fire for over an hour. Not the most exciting band to watch until you start paying attention to what's going on. They change instruments all the time which is fasinating to me. Turn your head for a moment and all of a sudden the keyboardist chick is on drums. Wacky fun.

The main attraction was a dvd of a 2004 Pixies show that was broadcast on INHD2 this year. I don't get that channel but the show was up for grabs on Dimeadozen (formerly EZtorrent). Since my DVDP does a good job of upconverting to to 720p it still looked brilliant. Not 1080 of course but, what are you gonna do? Still, it had an incredible 5.1 DD soundtrack. Phenomonal show and for once Monkey Gone To Heaven wasn't buried at the bottom of the setlist.

1. Bone Machine
2. Wave of Mutilation
3. Monkey Gone to Heaven
4. No. 13 Baby
5. U-Mass
6. I Bleed
7. Velouria
8. Is She Weird?
9. Mr. Grieves
10. Caribou
11. Dead
12. Cactus
13. In Heaven (NOT BROADCAST)
14. Here Comes Your Man
15. The Holiday Song
16. Nimrod's Son
17. Vamos
18. Gouge Away
19. Debaser
20. Broken Face
21. Crackity Jones
22. Something Against You
23. Isla de Encanta
24. Tame
25. Hey
26. Gigantic
Encore:
27. Where is My Mind?


Also been breaking out some Holiday music. There's a TSO bootleg from Hershey, Penn that I've enjoyed quite a bit. Ditto for a show from Chicago. Also spent some time with some Holiday comps that are heavy on the synthpop flavoring. Been a long while, I've enjoyed getting reacquainted with some old friends.

jc

audiobill
12-13-2005, 02:24 PM
Been getting into mostly 2005 releases (I tend to do this around Dec/Jan and then fallback to the faithful tried'n'true).

James Blunt - Back to Bedlam

John Vanderslice - Pixel Revolt (really dig this one; yields plenty of pleasure on replay)

Of Montreal - The Sunlandic Twins (didn't do much initially, but it's getting better with each successive listen -- has legs)

Patrick Wolf - Wind in the Wires (perfect music of wintry days -- luv it)

Damien Rice - O (not 2005, but hey it's so damn good that I couldn't resist)

Same with the Rolling Stones' Out of Our Heads (timeless classic)

The Russian Futurists - Our Thickness (need more time with this one... times I think it's brilliant & other times I think, yeah right)

Davedra Banhart - Cripple Crow (the man can do no wrong)

Marah - If You Don't Laugh, You'd Cry (my December discovery!!)

Bedouin Soundclash - Sounding A Mosaic (saw them live this past Thursday in the 'shwa and they brought the house down.... white guy the gives me Marley chills...)

That's it for now,

Bill

MindGoneHaywire
12-13-2005, 06:26 PM
I love them Cardigans





Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...




Does Stewart Copeland have any 2 albums that sound the same?


I don't know, I haven't heard. Is his versatility one of the reasons why people who like to boast about how they're 'musicians' claim him as being some sort of God? I mean, the records could be great, and his ability cannot be denied. But he's one of those guys that certain types will praise to what seems to me to be a fault. Sort of like Neil Peart praise, in a way. None of which inspires me to seek the stuff out. That said, I do like the Police & not Rush, so I'll keep an ear out.



Played a ton of Alice Cooper too. Lots of great music there, especially "Welcome to my Nightmare."

This is Troy? Or did someone get a hold of Troy's computer?

I've got Love It To Death lined up here myself...it'll have to wait, though, Vancouver just took the lead on the Rangers...priorities, ya know...then again, I've spent the past 20 years turning down the sound on hockey games & putting on the Ramones & other punk rock recs to create a nifty soundtrack for my viewing pleasure...doesn't work quite as well this season with the rules changes, tho...


Yesterday for the first time I heard a Frank Zappa album that, unlike ANYTHING ELSE HE EVER DID (at least that I've heard...and that's at least 20 albums' worth of the 500 or so he...), I actually LOVED from start to finish. Sport sent me a track or two, some years back, that I think ended up on this, if I'm not mistaken. It's called Cucamonga, it's the rootsy & twisted-doo-wop stuff that Zappa worked on prior to the Mothers, and which he obviously liked an awful lot. I remember reading an interview with Kurt Loder in Rolling Stone magazine...I think...and ended up in Loder's interview collection "Bat Chain Puller," in which Zappa talked about his days in this studio & how he was busted for recording an audio track that was supposed to be sync-ed to a porno film...I'll never understand a guy like him being criminally stupid enough to declare that punk rock was 'anti-music,' and I can't see ever liking most of his music (let alone Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar), but this is downright, uh, SOMETHING. Yow.

Finally heard the Rhino PUNK ROCK box set "No Thanks!" for the first time today. I hadn't picked it up in spite of not having at least 1/3 of what's on there because it just seemed kinda redundant. Ended up with a copy, and guess what? It's probably more like 1/2 of this that I didn't have. Which I'm not ashamed to admit, but it makes it all the more desirable to me. Oh, sure, I have 2/3 of the songs on here, but there are so many of what seem to be different mixes or 45 single versions or maybe even alternate takes that in some cases it was almost like hearing the song for the first time. That's probably more due to not having heard those songs in awhile, but still...it's the sorta thing you go into thinking, 'I've heard this...' and then it turns out you really haven't. A good listen.

After getting into a verbal skirmish with a Rocky Roader laden with a superior attitude who thinks I don't realize my chain is being yanked...I went back & revisited a recording I hadn't heard in at least 15 years: Al Kooper, Michael Bloomfield, Steve Stills, Super Session. Super? I don't think so; I didn't then, and I don't now, either. Good, sure. A very nice record, mostly bluesy, of course, but not the standout to my ears that some people seem to think. When you go back to a recording you haven't heard in that long a time, there's always the possibility you're going to hear it differently. But I don't see it. And, like, for instance, the Allman Brothers, the worship is something I just find baffling. There's a Shuggie Otis blues record that is superior to all of this stuff, if you must whittle away an hour or so listening to late 60s/early 70s blues, but try telling that to someone who thinks the Allman Brothers were...oh, never mind. Now, since David Johansen does it so well, I dispute that people who didn't grow up in the Mississippi Delta or played for years in Chicago can't make good blues records (and then there is the race issue, natch). But there's a...sincerity that I hear in the Harry Smiths recs that I sure as heck don't get from this Super Sessions stuff. Johansen gets across the feel that I think is a necessary component to a credible blues performance. There's a vocal on Super Session that's just plain...Wonder Bread. Oh, well. What can you do.

Gram Parsons & the Fallen Angels--Live 1973. On WLIR! A year before the live Big Star recording. WLIR was the sh*t, THAT was a radio station. Imagine the randomness of "Jack" radio, only 30 years ago & with songs you actually wanted to hear. Anyway, Emmylou Harris is present & accounted for, and this, probably more than Parsons' last couple of records, makes one gnash the teeth at what he could've gone on to do...to my ears, anyway.

Sing Along With Los Straitjackets--a lot of fun. A LOT.

Cello Trio--the Brazilian classical album. Can't get enough of this.

White Stripes--Get Behind Me Satan. I like this a whole lot better than Elephant. Maybe the best r'n'r rec I heard this year.

Serge Gainsbourg--Couleur Cafe. Fantastic.

Paris Combo--Motifs. Some nice world/electronica fusion.

Mr. T Experience. Decent punk-ish...punkish.

The Cuts--Nice garagey pop.

The Softies--one of the better KRS artists I've heard. Very nice, very pretty, very pleasant pop from a female duo.

Jersey Boys Soundtrack. My Four Seasons collection is incomplete...this is pleasant, but doesn't do it. Can't Take My Eyes Off You is one of the best pop songs I've ever heard. Anyone else out there a fan of Wall St. Village Day?

Botswanas--Fade & You're Gone. I don't even remember exactly what they were like, but I remember liking it quite a bit. I think it was poppish alt-rock-ish kinda stuff, might've been a tad garagey, I've got to give it another spin.

Green Day--Bullet In A Bible. I'm sick of these performance DVDs, I'd rather just listen to the CD. The edits & the angles are distracting, ridiculous, and headache-inducing. I can't fly around a venue when I'm watching a show, and I wouldn't want to, either. Nothing wrong with an edit now & then, but I really wish the people who stick with the formula that's developed on these live shoots would watch some vintage Elvis Costello & the Attractions videos, & then maybe the Cramps live at the Napa Mental Hospital or something. Just stick with a shot for more than 15 seconds, wouldja? Geez. The performance is good, sure. I could do without the occasional quasi-anti-USA comments, they sound lame as hell. The record does a better job of expressing that than any half-baked innuendo about our gov't. Oh, well.

Kate Bush--Aerial. I've never been terribly familiar with her. Nice rec, but while I have to give it another spin, I'm not sure I'd reach for it before the Softies, or some of the other mellow-but-interesting pop records I've heard recently (like last year's Innocence Mission covers album, for instance). But there are some moments that are evocative of a couple of Nick Cave tunes--Nature Boy, for instance--and...I like.

Tail Dragger--My Head Is Bald. Who? Oh, some guy who's been around Chicago long enough to have been branded with his name by Howlin' Wolf, who complained about his tardiness, or something like that. I've heard a couple of blues & jazz titles on Delmark lately that were real clunkers, but this live performance is pretty decent, if nothing earthshattering.

Bob Marley--Wailers & Friends. I'll never understand Marley winning over Dylan on this board, but maybe someday I'll get over it. Anyway, though I haven't given the singles collection Africa Unite a spin yet, I've listened to this here CD more than anything else over the past few weeks, without a doubt. Fan-effin'-tastic.

Verve Unmixed--I only had the 2nd edition of the Verve remixed, and I don't have a lot of this anyway, let alone putting them in this sort of order. Just an issue of the tracks they used for the first one, the original tracks, no DJ electronica remixing. Nice assortment of jass here. And while half of Unmixed 2 was a load, the other half was excellent, I thought. And if I remember correctly, Dan The Automator was, as usual, the best of the lot on that.

bloom.--OSinner. A contemporary postpunk rec that I liked...a LOT. Who knew? How's the most recent Franz Ferdinand, anyway?

opt80
12-13-2005, 06:42 PM
Leroy Stagger ~ Beautiful House.

John Hiatt ~ Live in Austin Tx (DVD)

Joni Mitchell ~ Hits





Alan

ForeverAutumn
12-13-2005, 06:51 PM
I've been working my tush off this past week (including all weekend) so not much time for music. That'll change next week as things slow down for the holidays. But I did manage to squeeze in,

Luke Doucet - Broken - I'm still loving this and have to thank Alan again for the rec.

Andrew Bird - The Swimming Hour - It's still growing on me.

Great Big Sea - Play - Just good, clean, Newfie fun.

-Jar-
12-13-2005, 06:53 PM
hey I went to click REPLY and that HK ad jumped down in the way.. very tricky.

Listening to:

A.R. Kane - SIXTY NINE - an album very ahead of its time. Dubgazer? I don't know how they came up with the sounds they came up with on this album. Preceded post-rock by a couple of years, combined dub with amospheric dream pop before it occured to anyone.. and yes, the same guys that brought you "Pump up the Volume" I wonder what they're doing these days..

Some other 4ad stuff.. His Name is Alive, Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins, Pixies, Mojave 3..

and a bunch of Opeth.

rawwrrr..

-jar

GMichael
12-13-2005, 06:55 PM
I've been working my tush off this past week .

Where will you sit?

ForeverAutumn
12-13-2005, 07:39 PM
Where will you sit?

Sitting is for lazy people...at least that's what my boss keeps telling me. :(

Dusty Chalk
12-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Riverside, Second Life Syndrome -- definitely recommended to the progger/neo-progger/5-piece rockin' band with the occasional space-out section crowd
Lots of Foetus' Love album, definitely working its way up to a top 10 spot for the year.
And some synthpop/EBM/industrial thingy -- don't know what it is, it's in my car. I think it's either Absurd Minds or Imperative Reaction -- sounds like a missing Project Pitchfork album.
Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...I don't see him liking Emmerdale, but I definitely hear Life or First Band on the Moon as his sort of thing -- the early upbeat stuff. The Black Sabbath covers.

GMichael
12-14-2005, 06:32 AM
Sitting is for lazy people...at least that's what my boss keeps telling me. :(

If you've go time to lean, you've got time to clean?

Troy
12-14-2005, 08:19 AM
Me liking Cardigans:
Really? I don't hear "Life" or "Emmerdale" as yr kinda thing...


I don't have those albums. Are they similar to Gran Tourismo and the First Band on the Moon? Hooky artpop with sexy girly vocals. What's not to like?

I love dispelling people's ideas about me.



Are any 2 Steward Copeland albums the same?

I don't know, I haven't heard. Is his versatility one of the reasons why people who like to boast about how they're 'musicians' claim him as being some sort of God? I mean, the records could be great, and his ability cannot be denied. But he's one of those guys that certain types will praise to what seems to me to be a fault. Sort of like Neil Peart praise, in a way. None of which inspires me to seek the stuff out. That said, I do like the Police & not Rush, so I'll keep an ear out.

Some kinda god? Ummmm, not me. But I tell ya, when you play the tribal African "Rhythmatist" and the synth-based classical instrumental "Equalizer+" and then the raucus snarly and punky "Klark Kent" and the Primus/Phish loaded "Oysterhead" all back to back you can begin to see that the guy is a real student of all things musical. People worship Peart because of his monumental drumming chops. It's not Stewey's druming chops as much as it's his creativity as a musician in general.



Me Liking Alice Cooper:

This is Troy? Or did someone get a hold of Troy's computer?

I've got Love It To Death lined up here myself...it'll have to wait, though, Vancouver just took the lead on the Rangers...priorities, ya know...then again, I've spent the past 20 years turning down the sound on hockey games & putting on the Ramones & other punk rock recs to create a nifty soundtrack for my viewing pleasure...doesn't work quite as well this season with the rules changes, tho...

I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy. I mean, "Unfinished Sweet" from B$B? YOU like that J?

Hockey? This is California, man. Not Hockey country. I find it hilarious that cities like LA and Phoenix have hockey teams . . .



Yesterday for the first time I heard a Frank Zappa album that, unlike ANYTHING ELSE HE EVER DID (at least that I've heard...and that's at least 20 albums' worth of the 500 or so he...), I actually LOVED from start to finish. Sport sent me a track or two, some years back, that I think ended up on this, if I'm not mistaken. It's called Cucamonga, it's the rootsy & twisted-doo-wop stuff that Zappa worked on prior to the Mothers, and which he obviously liked an awful lot. I remember reading an interview with Kurt Loder in Rolling Stone magazine...I think...and ended up in Loder's interview collection "Bat Chain Puller," in which Zappa talked about his days in this studio & how he was busted for recording an audio track that was supposed to be sync-ed to a porno film...I'll never understand a guy like him being criminally stupid enough to declare that punk rock was 'anti-music,' and I can't see ever liking most of his music (let alone Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar), but this is downright, uh, SOMETHING. Yow.

Look for "Cruisin with Reuben and the Jets." It's his 50s do-wop homage. I recently read about that porn bust in the FZ bio that Master Cylinder sent me. I can only imagine how redneck the high-desert town he grew up in was in the mid 60s.

Heck, he DID punk music too. "Tryin to Grow a Chin", "Broken Hearts are for A$$holes" and "I'm so Cute" are hilarious punk send-ups. FZ always saw himself as a serious musician, even when he was making silly ****e like "Jewish Pricess" and "Bobby Brown." Years later his heading into classical territory bears this out even more. Was he playing down to his audience? Perhaps, but I think he loved all music. Perhaps you are missing the context of that "punk is anti-music" quote. I wonder how much of that anti-music feeling was due to the fashion statement aspect (which he hated in all forms of music) or the nihilistic aspect of punk culture. I just don't see FZ hating ANY kind of music because he embraced and used ALL music in his work.

Again, the fact that he did such varied music over his career (making Copeland look like the Ramones in comparison) should be immensely appealing to anyone that loves music.

MasterCylinder
12-15-2005, 05:00 AM
"I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy."
__________________________________________________ ____________________

Troy:
I was a sound roadie (monitor mix) on the B$B tour in 1973 -- Vince was a normal guy; he just knew how to make money. The hardest drug I ever saw the man do was Budweiser.

Troy
12-15-2005, 08:56 AM
"I grew up on Alice Cooper. Schools Out, Billion $ Babies, Nightmare, brilliant records. Period. So mu8ch of that stuff is so proggy."
__________________________________________________ ____________________

Troy:
I was a sound roadie (monitor mix) on the B$B tour in 1973 -- Vince was a normal guy; he just knew how to make money. The hardest drug I ever saw the man do was Budweiser.

Wow, we have our own Alice Cooper Roadie posting here!

Oh yeah, I know, it was all about THEATER with AC. I mean, the guy GOLFS, how much of a punk can he really be?

MasterCylinder
12-15-2005, 09:04 AM
Yes -- he does play golf.
At the time we worked together, he lived in the mansion next door to Barry Goldwater's mansion in Phoenix..........and they were friends..........yikes.
To all of us pot-smoking roadies from Dallas, that was really wacked !

MindGoneHaywire
12-15-2005, 12:55 PM
Furnier's considered to be extremely conservative politically.

The first two Cardigans albums I don't really hear as being similar to the next two, not that they're all that different, the earlier stuff appeals to me more, though. Life in particular, I don't see that as being up Troy's alley because of the poppy jazz vibe, very bluesy underneath the often cheerful-sounding Euro-ish pop.