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ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 07:26 AM

My week in review....

Saga - Greatest Hits '78 - '93
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - (what does this title mean, anyway?)
Wilco - Summerteeth - Should I buy A Ghost is Born? I've heard such varying reviews.
Elbow - Leaders of the Free World - I like.
A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
James Bedlam - Back to Bedlam - The jury's still out on this one.

Now Playing - Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger - This is my first spin. I picked this up based on a rec from Mike. I'm liking it a lot. Kind of a cross between The Killers and The Kaiser Chiefs. Very good so far.

I went CD shopping on the weekend. Can you tell? hehehe.

Other purchases, not yet listened to:
Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
Tool - Lateralus
Soundgarden - Superunknown

Duds

10-25-2005, 07:31 AM

While breaking in my beautiful new Von Schweikert VR-1's in the African Hazelwood finish, I have been listening to

A Perfect Cirle - Thirteenth Step
Opeth - Damnation
Neil Young - Greatest hits
Ozric Tentacles
Andreas Vollenweider
Tori Amos - beekeeper
Tool - Lateralus

My week in review....

Saga - Greatest Hits '78 - '93
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - (what does this title mean, anyway?)
Wilco - Summerteeth - Should I buy A Ghost is Born? I've heard such varying reviews.
Elbow - Leaders of the Free World - I like.
A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
James Bedlam - Back to Bedlam - The jury's still out on this one.

Now Playing - Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger - This is my first spin. I picked this up based on a rec from Mike. I'm liking it a lot. Kind of a cross between The Killers and The Kaiser Chiefs. Very good so far.

I went CD shopping on the weekend. Can you tell? hehehe.

Other purchases, not yet listened to:
Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
Tool - Lateralus
Soundgarden - Superunknown

Davey

10-25-2005, 07:43 AM

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - (what does this title mean, anyway?
It's from the phonetic alphabet that the military uses for radio communications to avoid confusion with the spoken letters. Shortwave operators as well. For instance my initials, dbi, would be delta bravo india. You can hear a woman's spoken voice over the radio at the end of the "Poor Places" repeating yankee hotel foxtrot over and over. But I don't know the significance of the letters yhf.

Been on a David Kilgour binge myself. I'm really an addict. No help in sight. Lost. The Heavy Eights have taken over my mind ...

ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 07:56 AM

It's from the phonetic alphabet that the military uses for radio communications to avoid confusion with the spoken letters. Shortwave operators as well. For instance my initials, dbi, would be delta bravo india. You can hear a woman's spoken voice over the radio at the end of the "Poor Places" repeating yankee hotel foxtrot over and over. But I don't know the significance of the letters yhf.

Been on a David Kilgour binge myself. I'm really an addict. No help in sight. Lost. The Heavy Eights have taken over my mind ...

Sorry, I should have been more clear in my question. It was the significance of YHF that I was after. Thanks for your detailed response though.

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 08:17 AM

A couple of bootlegs from the Editors. Awesome stuff if you like the Interpol doing their best to channel Joy Division stuff, which of course I do. At times he goes into the same steely voiced singing a la Interpol, making the similarities even more pronounced. Personally I love it and am going to see if the local disc shop has it in the isles.

Spent some time with the new BSS and at present am liking the freebie EP a lot more than the disc proper.

Grabbed the latest Calla CD and should pressed Stone more for a review first. The clips I hit at random at All music.com must have been the few tracks that really soar. When a track takes off, it really flies but overall a little too much time on the tarmac for me to recomend this disc.

And of course the new Depeche Mode. What can you say- it's a Depeche Mode album following the tried and true formula that always bears at least some fruit. Not a top 10'er but not a let down either.

some other boots like from My Morning Jacket, a reasonably good sounding recording of their "Hot"lanta gig that was the first of the new tour. All the new songs made the set save one. I wasn't mesmerized but a few more spins may encourage me to grab the new album.

And of course rehashing lots of stuff like Le Tigre, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Wolf Parade and such. Good week overall.

jc

newtrix1

10-25-2005, 08:38 AM

doesn't make me want to share, but I guess it's better than just lurkin' right?

Lambchop - what another man spills: I ordered this cd after reading AMG's description (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:dvd7yl41xpnb) of the album. Quite disappointing, because I was expecting something very different, they really didn't describe it well IMO. Reminded me a lot like what I've heard from Tindersticks, another band that left me a bit cool.

Stars - Set Yourself On Fire: A few tracks got better with more listens, but overall the disc is not exactly jumping into my cd player by itself.

Toy Matinee - s/t: Picked this up based on a rec here on Raverecs. Thought maybe I'd missed a classic from the last decade, I didn't.

Oh, I listened to a good audio book on a recent road trip: Montana 1948 , does that count? :)

noddin0ff

10-25-2005, 08:44 AM

(smog): Dongs of Sevotion, Knock Knock – a hybrid of Lou Reed and Leonard Cohen except with melody? Strayed from DoS; Held, Cold Blooded Old Times from KK outstanding.
Dire Straits: Dire Straits
Stanton Moore: Flyin the Koop
Iggy Pop: Nude & Rude (Best of)
The American Seasons (Mark O’ Connor): Very pleasant
Lounge Lizards: Queen of All Ears, Voice of Chunk
Herbie Hancock: Speak like a Child (my fave.), Head Hunters, Maiden Voyage
Schoolhouse Rock: Since I figured out how to rip audio from DVD, I’ve been listening to the complete collection of Schoolhouse Rock from the 30th anniversary DVD. Forty-six (46) tracks! Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla (pronouns) may be displacing my childhood fave, The Preamble.

Mike

10-25-2005, 08:50 AM

A couple of bootlegs from the Editors. Awesome stuff if you like the Interpol doing their best to channel Joy Division stuff, which of course I do. At times he goes into the same steely voiced singing a la Interpol, making the similarities even more pronounced. Personally I love it and am going to see if the local disc shop has it in the isles. jc

Good to see The Editors making inroads across the water, that debut album is a good un' dare I say it more Interpol than Interpol at times.

Plus glad you like Maximo Park FA. It's always a downer when you rave about something and people don't like it.

My listens since last week

Sinead O Connor - Throw Down Your Arms, Sinead does reggae? not as bad as you might think with her folky voice it brings a new dimension to these classic songs, me likes.

Mars Volta - Frances The Mute
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
My Morning Jacket - Z (anybody managed to rip this? I struggled)
Kaiserchiefs - Employment
Bedouin Soundclash - Sounding A Mosaic
Richard Thompson - Front Parlour Ballads
The Verve - Greatest Hits (forgot just how good this band were)
James - Greatest Hits (another lost gem, they went off a bit near the end though)

Cheers
Mike

ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 09:13 AM

Stars - Set Yourself On Fire: A few tracks got better with more listens, but overall the disc is not exactly jumping into my cd player by itself.

I put this into a listening station while I was out CD shopping last weekend. It didn't make it to the cash register.

SlumpBuster

10-25-2005, 10:16 AM

That Lateralus record is good stuff. I've been listening to it alot on headphones while playing Doom 3... very scary stuff.

In heavy rotation on the turntable:
Oasis - "Don't believe the truth." Oasis returns to form.
Yaz - "You and me both." Still, for my money, one of the best produced synthpop records of the 80s.

The car changer is loaded with some guilty, but solid, pleasures. This newer crop of rock bands has gotten me a little warn out already. The Killers, Decemberists, Kaiserchiefs, ect are just not standing up to multiple listenings with me. Although Deathcabn for Cutie is really starting to grow on me.

Gwen Stefani - LAMB
Reel Big Fish - Why do they rock so hard?
Bloodhound Gang -Hooray for Boobies.
Insane Clown Posse - Great Melinko
Ash - Meltdown
Gadjits - Today is my day (The best universally ignored death rattle of a band that practically never was. A recording so raw to can smell the cigarettes, alcohol, and purple haze.)

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 10:28 AM

Gadjits - Today is my day (The best universally ignored death rattle of a band that practically never was. A recording so raw to can smell the cigarettes, alcohol, and purple haze.)

You're not from Kansas City by any chance are you? Surprised to see a Gadjits mention is all.

jc

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 10:31 AM

I put this into a listening station while I was out CD shopping last weekend. It didn't make it to the cash register.

It's official - you guys are just plain goofy!

Actually given that FA is the resident Prog Queen and Rick is the resident, well whatever you are the King of (loud headache inducing Rock?) you probably wouldn't be my most likely candidates for liking this record. But the truth of the matter is that this joint is for checking stuff out and that you did is cool.

jc

SlumpBuster

10-25-2005, 10:59 AM

You're not from Kansas City by any chance are you? Surprised to see a Gadjits mention is all.

jc

Ahhh... Kansas City. Home of world reknowned BBQ and strip joints where your allowed touch the girls. :D

Nope. Not from KC. Just been there a bunch. First saw the gadjits in 97 as a support act in Detroit. Can't even tell you who the headliner was now. They had been on some punk samplers so I was familiar. But the show was such a balls out trainwreck (thats a good thing) that I was hooked.

noddin0ff

10-25-2005, 11:42 AM

From wikipedia
The album features recordings from numbers stations, and is named after one of them: a looped recording at the end of the song "Poor Places" of a mysterious female voice reciting "yankee hotel foxtrot" over and over. The woman recorded in the clip is alleged to be a Mossad agent.

The sample came from the Conet Project.There was a lawsuit for copyright infringement
http://www.irdial.com/conet.htm

Here's a link to an NPR 'All Things Considered' report about the Conet Project(audio)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4167689

Very interesting!

GMichael

10-25-2005, 11:54 AM

Sorry, I should have been more clear in my question. It was the significance of YHF that I was after. Thanks for your detailed response though.

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Calling All Stations
Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

Nonesuch, 2002

Rating: 5.0

Posted: May 7, 2002

By Laurence Station

Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (YHF) comes with a lot of baggage. Recorded during the first half of 2001, the album was initially slated for a summer release by the band's label, Reprise, only to be pushed back, and finally dropped altogether. Certain executives at Reprise felt the record was too inaccessible and needed changes. Wilco staunchly refused to alter a single note. Fortunately for the group, and the rest of us, Reprise allowed Wilco to buy back the master tapes and shop YHF to other labels. Enter Nonesuch (ironically, like Reprise, a Warner Brothers subsidiary), which agreed to put out the record as Wilco intended. Chalk one up for those who stick to their guns, because YHF is not only Wilco's finest achievement to date, but a bona fide masterpiece as well.

Drawing inspiration from such diverse sources as Chicago's famed Marina Towers (which eventually wound up as the cover shot) to the Conet Project, a four-disc collection of mysterious shortwave radio transmissions that may or may not be Cold War-era governments passing coded messages to remote agents, YHF is the culmination of Wilco's musical vision as well as a fascinating mediation on how we communicate in an increasingly complicated world.

Whereas Wilco’s Being There (1996) was a refinement (of quantum leap proportions, actually) over the band’s 1995 debut, A.M., (thanks primarily to the addition of multi-instrumentalist Jay Bennett), YHF can be seen as a clearer distillation of the marvelously listenable but overproduced Summerteeth (1999). YHF clarifies all the ideas about chaos, love and the perils of success that ringleader Jeff Tweedy's explored on earlier efforts, while Jim O'Rourke's production reigns in the indulgent tendencies evident on the prior releases, making for a tightly focused yet intricately layered work. Sadly, Jay Bennett left Wilco after the completion of the record and the future sound of the band will certainly be measured against the lack of his presence.

"I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" opens YHF with a brooding, drum-laden buildup that bears similarities to, and improves on, Being There's bombastic lead track "Misunderstood." A ringing alarm clock and disquieting piano bars tickle unpleasant memories from our narrator after he awakens from an all night bender ("American aquarium drinker") and recalls -- with stinging clarity -- his actions from the previous evening. After venturing off to torpedo a budding relationship ("I assassin down the avenue"), he eventually passed out, but not before proclaiming his true feelings for the person he'd just pushed away ("I'm the man who loves you"). "I Am Trying…" perfectly encapsulates a man who's only happy being miserable, working hard to cripple an otherwise promising relationship.

"Radio Cure" could be about the same man, sober now and trying to get back what was lost; not self-pitying, but owning up to his obvious shortcomings, taking responsibility for his actions and acknowledging that "distance has no way of making love understandable," as radio static crackles in the background. "War On War" tackles optimism in the face of adversity, its opening acoustic strum giving way to radio squawks and hissing bleats interwoven with feedback drenched turmoil. Through all that hope shines through: "You have to learn how to die/If you wanna wanna be alive." "Jesus, Etc." with its soulful horns and earnest plea that "our love is all we have," reinforces the album's central theme of the stark division between the loved and unloved, contrasting it with a celestial hierarchy separating bright stars from dying suns.

"Ashes Of American Flags," sporting a windswept, spaciously played and patiently introspective structure, exposes Tweedy at his most profoundly understated ("I know I would die/If I could come back new") and with a penchant for making the most mundane observations sound positively epic: "I could spend three dollars/and sixty-three cents/on diet coca-cola/and unlit cigarettes."

The peak track (and thematic center) of YHF is "I'm The Man Who Loves You," a lurching coda to the album's opener. Reiterating the closing drunken slur from "I Am Trying..." the song's dirty, ragged guitar breaks punctuate the narrator's efforts to write a letter of reconciliation to his departed lover, crumpling up sheet after sheet but slowly gaining confidence in his titular statement of purpose by song's end.

The penultimate “Poor Places” contains some of the most insightful, heartfelt lyrics Tweedy’s yet penned, while the closing "Reservations" warbles drowsily in a slightly off-kilter, drifting-off-to-sleep as-the-TV-plays manner that offers a final promise, tinged with uncertainty as a brooding storm rolls in: "I've got reservations about so many things/But not about you."

There's an overcast density to YHF that makes for some heavy slogging at points. Fortunately, more upbeat tracks, like "Kamera," "Heavy Metal Drummer" and "Pot Kettle Black," are smartly sequenced and keep matters from becoming overly moribund.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is weighty in its ideas and execution, but it's hardly dour, offering an optimistic outlook throughout. It does, however, demand close listening. Not to say that it should be relegated to the insular domain of "headphone music," but there's a lot happening here. It's to O'Rourke's and Tweedy's credit that the final mix never gets too top heavy. And, unlike the furtive numbers stations filling the Conet Project that inspired it, YHF does more than zip across the airwaves and then vanish -- a one-way communication offering no hope of a reply. It exists just as the band intended, spared from languishing in some anonymous vault for countless years before finally reaching the masses. That alone is a triumph worth broadcasting to all willing to listen.

Mr MidFi

10-25-2005, 11:54 AM

About YHF, two things...

1. My brother and I have had a heated disagreement as to whether the person speaking that line on "Poor Places" is an English woman (as I say), or an English boy. After repeated listenings on some pretty good headphones, I have to say... meh, could go either way. Listen again and tell me what you think.

2. I recall reading something about the significance (or lack thereof) of those exact letters when the album came out. I believe the sound clip was used before they titled the album, and they just liked the idea of some message, in quasi-code, emerging from the noise and fuzz and clatter. (And by "they" I mean "Tweedy," of course.) I don't think the specific letters are meant to be meaningful.

I think the words "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" make a great album name, regardless of meaning. It sounds like some crazy dance step you can only do after multiple shots at the lobby bar of the Yankee Hotel.

ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 12:18 PM

ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 12:20 PM

I don't think the specific letters are meant to be meaningful.

I think the words "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" make a great album name, regardless of meaning. It sounds like some crazy dance step you can only do after multiple shots at the lobby bar of the Yankee Hotel.

Now that I know the origin, I would tend to agree with you. It's just a great album name, no hidden meaning.

newtrix1

10-25-2005, 12:44 PM

It's official - you guys are just plain goofy!

Actually given that FA is the resident Prog Queen and Rick is the resident, well whatever you are the King of (loud headache inducing Rock?) you probably wouldn't be my most likely candidates for liking this record. But the truth of the matter is that this joint is for checking stuff out and that you did is cool.

jc

I think the album has it's moments, but at this point it's not getting under my skin at all. You know the feeling.... when it's over, that's it, it doesn't call me back the next day.
And I'd bet that if everyone here got a copy to listen to, me and FA would likely be in the minority.

I guess I did put out several comps that would make me worthy of your title, but by no means is that my steady diet. (would insert a smiley here but I know you don't like them).

audiobill

10-25-2005, 12:45 PM

.

My listens since last week

Sinead O Connor - Throw Down Your Arms, Sinead does reggae? not as bad as you might think with her folky voice it brings a new dimension to these classic songs, me likes.

Mars Volta - Frances The Mute
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
My Morning Jacket - Z (anybody managed to rip this? I struggled)
Kaiserchiefs - Employment
Bedouin Soundclash - Sounding A Mosaic
Richard Thompson - Front Parlour Ballads
The Verve - Greatest Hits (forgot just how good this band were)
James - Greatest Hits (another lost gem, they went off a bit near the end though)

Cheers
Mike

Hey, Mike.

How are you liking Frances the Mute??

Btw., First Willie Nelson puts out a reggae album and now Sinead - What's this world coming to?? Leonard Cohen doen's have a reggae album, yet, does he? heh, heh,....

Oh,yeah. That Beadouin Soundclash -- any good?

Cheers,
Bill

audiobill

10-25-2005, 12:47 PM

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 01:14 PM

Hey, JC.

That makes two of us. I really like the Stars release.

Cheers, I'm on fire,
Bill

Well, yeah...but I already knew you were cool.

jc

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 01:16 PM

I think the album has it's moments, but at this point it's not getting under my skin at all. You know the feeling.... when it's over, that's it, it doesn't call me back the next day.
And I'd bet that if everyone here got a copy to listen to, me and FA would likely be in the minority.

I guess I did put out several comps that would make me worthy of your title, but by no means is that my steady diet. (would insert a smiley here but I know you don't like them).

I knew you were good for more than that but it's the closest thing I could put into words.

jc - where the smiley is alway on!

ForeverAutumn

10-25-2005, 01:46 PM

It's official - you guys are just plain goofy!

Actually given that FA is the resident Prog Queen and Rick is the resident, well whatever you are the King of (loud headache inducing Rock?) you probably wouldn't be my most likely candidates for liking this record. But the truth of the matter is that this joint is for checking stuff out and that you did is cool.

jc

Like Rick said...it didn't suck hippo balls. But it wasn't intriguing enough to hand $13 over for either. I would have enjoyed it more if it was only male vocals. It lost some points as soon as the chick started singing.

Besides, I'm not as much as a Prog Queen as I used to be. You guys have been a bad influence on me. ;)

Too bad. I like smilies and I'm using them. :p

Zombie

10-25-2005, 02:45 PM

My week in review.... Elbow - Leaders of the Free World - I like.
Ooh, that's a good one, huh? Do you know their debut? Asleep In The Back? Great band. One of the best in the last few years. The new one really started to come together for me after about three listens, and now the glow just gets a little brighter with each listen. Really draws me back for more. Lots of depth to the songs, and lots of complexity to explore. Still lots of that Peter Gabriel "Red Rain" sound that I think most people like too from the first one. The new British Sea Power is pretty nice too.

nobody

10-25-2005, 03:32 PM

Been wearing headphones to work, so tons and tons of stuff lately. 8 hours can fit a bunch of music, and I usually grab a couple MP3 discs with like 10 or so albums each on 'em to choose from. Too much to list right now...but some highlights include...

Desperate Teenage Lovedolls Soundtrack
45 Grave: Sleep in Safety
Superfly Soundtrack
Agustus Pablo: Aquarius Dub
Sly & Robbie in Dub
Dicks: Kill From the Heart
Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Beck: Guerro
Lyrics Born: Same Sht, Different Day
Gorillaz: Demon Days
Jason & the Scorchers: Lost & Found

And, was over at my folks house and saw an old record I must have discarded ages ago as I barely remembered it. I'm actually listening to it right now for a little retro fun. Anyone remember this one...

<img src="http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd900/d995/d9954420ux9.jpg">

I could imagine a few of you out there digging its synthetic sheen and breezy, poppy sound.

tentoze

10-25-2005, 05:14 PM

And, was over at my folks house and saw an old record I must have discarded ages ago as I barely remembered it. I'm actually listening to it right now for a little retro fun. Anyone remember this one...

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd900/d995/d9954420ux9.jpg

I could imagine a few of you out there digging its synthetic sheen and breezy, poppy sound.
I gots that one, alright. It's a pretty fun listen.

Nothing to crow about here again this week, and for a while..

I picked up Mountain Goats' most recent release, The Sunset Tree- only a couple of spins so far, and I like it, but get the same feeling I got after last year's MG release- it's good, but it sounds like every other MG album, to the point of being able to drop a song from one into another and not realize it.

Jim Clark

10-25-2005, 06:09 PM

3-LockBox

10-25-2005, 07:23 PM

I purchased, just yesterday, and have spent today listening to the following:

APC:13th Step - Yes, that is a very "in your face bass", and I like that way. So far, so good. I can see why some fans of older tooL would find it a bit trite, but I refer tooL's proggier style over their goth-metal style anyway.

Ayreon:The Universal Migrator Pts 1 & 2 - this is a specially priced two-disc set that was just re-released last year (both CDs were originally released in 2000) Boy, these guys aren't fooling around. I've heard a couple of these songs on a Troy comp (albeit, the weirder songs) Disc One is akin to ELO on acid (with an occasional 'hit' of ether). Very keyboard driven, very neo-prog, but very well done, which is kind of a miracle considering the cast of hundreds (guests) employed to make this album. Disc Two is a throwback to '80s metal, but in a good way. Its like, what if Jeff Wayne produced an Iron Maiden album...or like, what if Glass Hammer or IQ had balls. I will definately be looking into more from this group. BTW: I picked this up at CC of all places, for $13.99us...a steal!

Also, I have through the course of a week, borrowed and listened to the following:

Soilwork:Stabbing The Drama - I mentioned this one last week. It won't supplant Opeth as far as my heavy metal jones goes, but it is, as they say, a grower.

Laguna Coil:Comalies - only a few tracks actually, but what I heard piqued my interests...I may be in the hunt for these guys next...but is Comalies the best starting point? hhmmm?

Well? Is it?

Dusty Chalk

10-25-2005, 09:01 PM

Glad you liked the Ayreon.
Laguna Coil:Comalies - only a few tracks actually, but what I heard piqued my interests...I may be in the hunt for these guys next...but is Comalies the best starting point? hhmmm?

Well? Is it?First of all, it's Lacuna Coil.

Comalies is a good a place to start as any, but my favourite is Unleashed Memories (try to find the version with Halflife on it).

Then there's In A Reverie (which is my 2nd favourite), and that's pretty much it, for now, in terms of albums.

3-LockBox

10-25-2005, 10:13 PM

Glad you liked the Ayreon.
Me too! I'm tired of waisting money.

my favourite is Unleashed Memories (try to find the version with Halflife on it).
Why?

ForeverAutumn

10-26-2005, 05:31 AM

Ooh, that's a good one, huh? Do you know their debut? Asleep In The Back? Great band. One of the best in the last few years. The new one really started to come together for me after about three listens, and now the glow just gets a little brighter with each listen. Really draws me back for more. Lots of depth to the songs, and lots of complexity to explore. Still lots of that Peter Gabriel "Red Rain" sound that I think most people like too from the first one. The new British Sea Power is pretty nice too.

This is my first experience with Elbow. Some of the folks around here were raving about it so I put it in a listening station at the CD store. It sounded kinda interesting so I threw it on the 'keep' pile and brought it home. I've since spun it three or four times and am liking it better with each spin.

I'd like to get the new BSP also, but I missed my chance at getting it on the cheap when it was released and now it's kind of pricey. I'll pick it up eventually, but it's hard to buy one CD at $20+ when you can get two cheapers ones for the same money.

I know, I know, quality not quantity. But isn't it devine when you can get both!

Stone

10-26-2005, 05:38 AM

Anyone remember this one...

<img src="http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd900/d995/d9954420ux9.jpg">

I could imagine a few of you out there digging its synthetic sheen and breezy, poppy sound.

Is that the one with "Cool Places" on it?

Dusty Chalk

10-26-2005, 06:41 AM

Comalies is a good a place to start as any, but my favourite is Unleashed Memories (try to find the version with Halflife on it).

Why?More music, that's the only reason. If you, like I, end up falling in love with them, it's one less EP you will have to acquire.

Zombie

10-26-2005, 07:16 AM

This is my first experience with Elbow. Some of the folks around here were raving about it so I put it in a listening station at the CD store. It sounded kinda interesting so I threw it on the 'keep' pile and brought it home. I've since spun it three or four times and am liking it better with each spin.
Yea, you're in for a treat then with the debut. A little more rocking and melancholy. Really nice and something to look forward to on down the line after you get the hankerin for some more.

I'd like to get the new BSP also, but I missed my chance at getting it on the cheap when it was released and now it's kind of pricey. I'll pick it up eventually, but it's hard to buy one CD at $20+ when you can get two cheapers ones for the same money.
Yea, I hear ya again. Hard for me to pluck down more than about $13 of virtual cash for CDs nowadays since they are so readily available for that or less online in the US. Big British CDs like BSP are available at cd-wow for pretty good international prices since they are postpaid, but still usually cheaper here unless it isn't released yet. For instance, Open Season is about 18 CAD to your door, but sounds like you prefer to buy locally, which is cool. Lots on ebay too, but sometimes those shipping cost'll kill ya. Do you ever buy from ebay Canada? For some reason the new one has a much higher list price than the debut. The used shops will probably have a few before long too...

Jim Clark

10-26-2005, 08:18 AM

Yea, you're in for a treat then with the debut. A little more rocking and melancholy. Really nice and something to look forward to on down the line after you get the hankerin for some more.

Yea, I hear ya again. Hard for me to pluck down more than about $13 of virtual cash for CDs nowadays since they are so readily available for that or less online in the US. Big British CDs like BSP are available at cd-wow for pretty good international prices since they are postpaid, but still usually cheaper here unless it isn't released yet. For instance, Open Season is about 18 CAD to your door, but sounds like you prefer to buy locally, which is cool. Lots on ebay too, but sometimes those shipping cost'll kill ya. Do you ever buy from ebay Canada? For some reason the new one has a much higher list price than the debut. The used shops will probably have a few before long too...

Hey, thanks for the CD-Wow post. I went ahead and ordered that Editors CD from there. Local joints want 25 bucks to order it in and I got it for 16. More than I wanted to spend and I'm sure there's somewhere that has it for a little less but this works.

jc

Zombie

10-26-2005, 08:31 AM

Hey, thanks for the CD-Wow post. I went ahead and ordered that Editors CD from there. Local joints want 25 bucks to order it in and I got it for 16. More than I wanted to spend and I'm sure there's somewhere that has it for a little less but this works.

jc
Hey no prob, I shoulda mentioned that there's always $2 discount codes floating around and I've posted some in the past as my alter ego, Davey Bones, but tough cookies for you fast movers.

For others with more patience, just search for cd-wow discount. Foe example, here's one that still looks good for $2 off ... http://www3.cd-wow.us/promotion.php?promo_refcode=14282_1&affid=14282 that'll get you that Editors CD for $13.95 ;)

nobody

10-26-2005, 03:56 PM

Is that the one with "Cool Places" on it?

why yes it is

ms wieldin makes that and another appearences on this one

Mike

10-27-2005, 01:59 AM

Hey, Mike.

How are you liking Frances the Mute??

Btw., First Willie Nelson puts out a reggae album and now Sinead - What's this world coming to?? Leonard Cohen doen's have a reggae album, yet, does he? heh, heh,....

Oh,yeah. That Beadouin Soundclash -- any good?

Cheers,
Bill

Hi Bill, there's patches of Mars Volta I really like and some not so I'm persisting with it.

As for Willie Nelson I've never been a fan but I did see a reference to his reggae album after reading a review of Sinead's. Someone else you wouldn't expect who I can't remember has also done a reggae type album.

And the Bedouin's did I not include it in our last batch? I meant to, if not chalk it up for next time. I really like it especially the first half of the album. It's got some great vocals, easy on the ear reggae sounds and an excellent production with plenty of bouncy bass just when it needs it.

Cheers
Mike

Dusty Chalk

10-27-2005, 10:39 AM

LOTW: Rob Dickinson, Fresh Wine for the Horses -- very Catherine Wheel. "Handsome" slays, but it's not the only gold on there. Contender for album of the year.

Davey

10-27-2005, 10:54 AM

LOTW: Rob Dickinson, Fresh Wine for the Horses -- very Catherine Wheel. "Handsome" slays, but it's not the only gold on there. Contender for album of the year.
Wow, hadn't heard about that one. Goofy title. Is it very CW in the early or late sense? I'm not that big a fan of the latter (or later). Who's the band? And yea, I do know how google works ;)

Dusty Chalk

10-27-2005, 01:22 PM

Even goofier cover (I love it, though -- perhaps it should be called fresh horses for the water):

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000ANVPC4.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

More like latter -- don't know who the band is (you have my permission to google), except I remember reading that some of CW guest on a song or two.

It is different, though. Worth hearing. Ranges the gamut from poppy ("My Name Is Love", "Handsome") to delicate ("The Night", "Mutineer") to atmospheric ("Bad Beauty", "Towering and Flowering").

Highly recommended. I just put it back on while responding to this post. Only US$5 used on amazon.com.

PS I call 'dibs' on "Handsome" for a future compilation.

Davey

10-27-2005, 01:37 PM

Highly recommended. I just put it back on while responding to this post. Only US$5 used on amazon.com.

PS I call 'dibs' on "Handsome" for a future compilation.
Wow, $5 eh?. I'll have to give a track or two a listen. Thanks for the comments. That is a goofy cover! Bet it has inane lyrics too, huh? That's one of my biggest problems with the later stuff. I know, I know, you don't even hear them most of the time. Are you gonna keep listening to it, or is it just a one week and then move on type of thing? What else is high on your year end list right now? Still about the same as when you posted it at obner? Man, that British Sea Power has been steadily climbing up my favorites. Right near the top now. Sounds good all the time. Something I can live with for days on end. Never would've suspected I'd be saying this after the frst coupla listens, but now I think it's just amazing. Perfect almost. Fantastic ebb and flow ... and the shimmer, love the shimmer.

audiobill

10-27-2005, 04:06 PM

Hi Bill, there's patches of Mars Volta I really like and some not so I'm persisting with it.

As for Willie Nelson I've never been a fan but I did see a reference to his reggae album after reading a review of Sinead's. Someone else you wouldn't expect who I can't remember has also done a reggae type album.

And the Bedouin's did I not include it in our last batch? I meant to, if not chalk it up for next time. I really like it especially the first half of the album. It's got some great vocals, easy on the ear reggae sounds and an excellent production with plenty of bouncy bass just when it needs it.

Cheers
Mike

Thanks for the quick notes on Bedouin. Next batch, for sure.
Cheers, Bill

audiobill

10-27-2005, 04:09 PM

Dusty Chalk

10-27-2005, 05:21 PM

That is a goofy cover! Bet it has inane lyrics too, huh?Wouldn't know. I don't even hear them most of the time.
I know, I know, you don't even hear them most of the time.(ahem) Actually, I did catch a couple lines in Handsome: "I follow mudslides in my head" stands out as quite memorable. Also, the first line of one of the songs is "Chrome never fails", which I found amusing. Some of the lyrics you wouldn't like (I don't think you'd like "The Night"), but "Handsome" is perfectly fine.
Are you gonna keep listening to it, or is it just a one week and then move on type of thing?Well, it's actually into its second or third week, I think. Who knows? Yeah, I might burn myself out on it. Ask me again in January.
What else is high on your year end list right now? Still about the same as when you posted it at obner?Yeah, pretty much. No runaway favourites. Still a whole bunch I haven't picked up. Black Mountain stands out. I need to listen to the Sigur Ros more -- I've only heard it a couple times. Super/System's Always Never Again is another contender, as is John Vanderslice, Pixel Revolt (you'd like that one, I think). Is the LCD Soundsystem 2005? If so, there's my top 5 right there, I think.
Man, that British Sea Power has been steadily climbing up my favorites. Right near the top now. See, that would be one I'd like to hear.

Davey

10-27-2005, 06:42 PM

Black Mountain stands out. I need to listen to the Sigur Ros more -- I've only heard it a couple times. Super/System's Always Never Again is another contender, as is John Vanderslice, Pixel Revolt (you'd like that one, I think). Is the LCD Soundsystem 2005? If so, there's my top 5 right there, I think.See, that would be one I'd like to hear.
Hey thanks, nice post. I do probably need to hear that Vanderslice rec sometime. He's a fungi. That Black Mountain was knocking me out again last week. Listened a lot. I'm finding that immersion is the best way to music nirvana. Very good album. Shoulda gotten lots more kudos. Not my favorite this year, but lately I've been thinking it's better than I thought, and I already thought it was pretty darn good. Just wanted to try and keep my aging classic rock retro persona in check, but now it's out. Seems to be the year of the grower for me. Maybe my attention span has just been shrinking as I approach twilight, but there's been a few recs I almost gave up on that are now favorites. Maybe the magic in music is just getting more elusive as artists try and find their own voice among the echoes of the past masters. Sure would be hard to find your own unique musical muse these days. British Sea Power are the real deal. You do need to hear it. Lots of beautiful guitars.