Crunchyriff
01-07-2004, 11:34 PM
(this was originally posted in the H/T section..)
I have had my Toshiba (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=98032&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1VuzSDDhBCG37Wjx%2BZhwJAPUsY5bh7 0oYErqrcbWwbbycU3qqrmrhq0fM39s%2FsPKYjkx%2Br2eaoAH QXxDIEVyB2QJRlAQ%2BQK1urikvuKn%2BhlTWGOt3Q8%2B7bdo %2FzfEDbcP5V7PKsCUyR6Gmp7y%2BnXwVZWZKY9R5TVQQaXBvS WZYXvyXejEHULP2cwlUNjBJclemQlPi5QMcTX8LR8jr1Ec9eon uttCzWEzWR0yBWnlymGTwl%2Bkg9XL6FsTeE1232cwQNSwNI%3 D) SD-5109 for about 3 years. Having seen my dad's new cheapie Toshiba 4900, I got curious, did some research, and decided to try a new DVD player (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=62029&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www60.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoakE1vTSDDhgzK%2F%2BUuiLYBzzQH0IW9S rD1lXuTAElQEdq1En7%2FTDQs6myffr94%2FS15MbPL2NPsG%2 Brfa95dYyYumPO1gxkR2xFDC%2FyIJJiArm9AVGQwgIWlVVYIM EVOsAhhfU6TympPQw0nud6P%2FoUffHnjn5n86b93%2FMRoggb 3Q3NgtfJS6Y6BSqI2LWKnEXVlXT8fp1bldvf9i6fDmo2sthLTB DPWmS98fEBMaoVH9YT%2FDdUEK%2FBejJxVPIMmUNxbkBlFZof kIBRvHw1E91fzAFTxG%2BzI2qOG%2Bl9eMls%3D) for grins.
I selected the Pioneer DV-563, due to all the press and reviews. I do not have a progressive scan monitor yet, (but I'm planning on a Samsung (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97953&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www60.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1VuwTCDRBBm%2F0VvjF58HQPYIBaW5e5 DAZFFtyYydsX81Kh9VVG1ddWHNGom8zf90htt8860P91vV9ZDV 2YYKZEMRhAlEgeDEvGJxvP2tmLt6I9G2Hni86di3NkXvkt3Z%2 BH7J5Juf4u6kKbFqObWa4q1fitiUEYmol6SkgUJ8aP%2Fq2Cik JZH%2FIUu07pzTdhimvW267cCKz8L2eJk%2BWg%2Bq67CYvPli VXpCV8I1WFsxAtUlcQ1nfOw009O5wghC6orFUL2J4cCVF6v) DLP); just a Toshiba 36 CRT (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97600&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1WOvSDDhBCG38fSpj8IoCH2S6U%2Bkcb CWSfgwogYby4bH6cXbVvFsTs35TMz%2F9ZXchjcZVac328r6V9 FHPJ%2Bw7tlKuVWq0GCZDDAhbCo4IAIpaMGGFPbgoXOU2l5r0P YZeSzcvx9%2Fi7SUW6xsfrnxeS%2F77oHde0hbVs0qIz8ao4sD ZUYJC2CHIbRnhjcam1yhMndoQX3hksUEQMG4H9pnLHR9rOeQfc mmXmsFKRjTKGIXqHeiKSy5PkFErpENQb3eukIU7Q2vEHooUEDW u81) w/ component video (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97584&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaUF1vTTCD%2FQy7K8c0QJL4oE0QI%2FQPU irbl20QnWYthUIlhK6B9f1TS1Op%2BWds8Di%2Fb35cfPDmCBh 1tukYQaas8x6qyWd%2BWv5Smb5ZxXRj6%2B8Jt6%2BNedxOuHo tvmyHlJOnR4d7PDfoWg1yodTlqNZ0r9vtC9F2Vtg0SfsMVPlDH apo2md1xu%2Bly39DM6VcOpQZCWV7JRgnCDmUDiJMyYkWoSUxy ruFOExG3u12a9Y9VW30%2Fjlda9rY1mNU%2FudajFnGOSYZpBT bWWub8CxTBrgCkDHkKc9UOatKcW%2FxV1QUgwSLPQsW2UiGIlY cdJSZvvWwUlJzef%2F826sf549thoIgkAp5tkXEYZFYBkBxOSH bexGfXd2JBO5zo4c%2BIvkF%2FyuLTog%3D).
First thing I noticed was that during X-Men 2, (the only disc I've tried on it so far)...there is NO layer change delay. WOO-HOO. The Toshiba was slow, and seems to have gotten worse over the last 3 years. I threw in a few other discs that I am well familiar with, (T2, Gladiator, Monsters, Inc) just for a few minutes each, and either my eyes are playing tricks or, the video seems much more vivid, and more '3-D' on the Pioneer. Very noticeably.
Unlike some reviews, my 563 has no negative bass management issues in H/T. Works splendid.
Considering the Tosh. 5109 retailed for $1k in year 2000, and the Pioneer 563 retails for under $200, I am really scratching my head over this one...is it me, or has 3 years of technology gotten better, AND more inexpensive? :confused:
I will do some a/b tests tomorrow.
In the meantime, anybody want to chip in thier thoughts, please?
I wonder what 500+ bucks can get me nowdays....(not that I want to spend it, but hey....)
The reason I'm soliciting feedback, is I have 30 days to take this thing back.
Thanks everyone!
I have had my Toshiba (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=98032&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1VuzSDDhBCG37Wjx%2BZhwJAPUsY5bh7 0oYErqrcbWwbbycU3qqrmrhq0fM39s%2FsPKYjkx%2Br2eaoAH QXxDIEVyB2QJRlAQ%2BQK1urikvuKn%2BhlTWGOt3Q8%2B7bdo %2FzfEDbcP5V7PKsCUyR6Gmp7y%2BnXwVZWZKY9R5TVQQaXBvS WZYXvyXejEHULP2cwlUNjBJclemQlPi5QMcTX8LR8jr1Ec9eon uttCzWEzWR0yBWnlymGTwl%2Bkg9XL6FsTeE1232cwQNSwNI%3 D) SD-5109 for about 3 years. Having seen my dad's new cheapie Toshiba 4900, I got curious, did some research, and decided to try a new DVD player (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=62029&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www60.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoakE1vTSDDhgzK%2F%2BUuiLYBzzQH0IW9S rD1lXuTAElQEdq1En7%2FTDQs6myffr94%2FS15MbPL2NPsG%2 Brfa95dYyYumPO1gxkR2xFDC%2FyIJJiArm9AVGQwgIWlVVYIM EVOsAhhfU6TympPQw0nud6P%2FoUffHnjn5n86b93%2FMRoggb 3Q3NgtfJS6Y6BSqI2LWKnEXVlXT8fp1bldvf9i6fDmo2sthLTB DPWmS98fEBMaoVH9YT%2FDdUEK%2FBejJxVPIMmUNxbkBlFZof kIBRvHw1E91fzAFTxG%2BzI2qOG%2Bl9eMls%3D) for grins.
I selected the Pioneer DV-563, due to all the press and reviews. I do not have a progressive scan monitor yet, (but I'm planning on a Samsung (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97953&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www60.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1VuwTCDRBBm%2F0VvjF58HQPYIBaW5e5 DAZFFtyYydsX81Kh9VVG1ddWHNGom8zf90htt8860P91vV9ZDV 2YYKZEMRhAlEgeDEvGJxvP2tmLt6I9G2Hni86di3NkXvkt3Z%2 BH7J5Juf4u6kKbFqObWa4q1fitiUEYmol6SkgUJ8aP%2Fq2Cik JZH%2FIUu07pzTdhimvW267cCKz8L2eJk%2BWg%2Bq67CYvPli VXpCV8I1WFsxAtUlcQ1nfOw009O5wghC6orFUL2J4cCVF6v) DLP); just a Toshiba 36 CRT (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97600&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaj1WOvSDDhBCG38fSpj8IoCH2S6U%2Bkcb CWSfgwogYby4bH6cXbVvFsTs35TMz%2F9ZXchjcZVac328r6V9 FHPJ%2Bw7tlKuVWq0GCZDDAhbCo4IAIpaMGGFPbgoXOU2l5r0P YZeSzcvx9%2Fi7SUW6xsfrnxeS%2F77oHde0hbVs0qIz8ao4sD ZUYJC2CHIbRnhjcam1yhMndoQX3hksUEQMG4H9pnLHR9rOeQfc mmXmsFKRjTKGIXqHeiKSy5PkFErpENQb3eukIU7Q2vEHooUEDW u81) w/ component video (http://itxt.vibrantmedia.com/al.asp?ipid=187&cc=us&cf=1&di=97584&ts=20040107233553&redir=http://www61.overture.com/d/sr/?xargs=02u3hs9yoaUF1vTTCD%2FQy7K8c0QJL4oE0QI%2FQPU irbl20QnWYthUIlhK6B9f1TS1Op%2BWds8Di%2Fb35cfPDmCBh 1tukYQaas8x6qyWd%2BWv5Smb5ZxXRj6%2B8Jt6%2BNedxOuHo tvmyHlJOnR4d7PDfoWg1yodTlqNZ0r9vtC9F2Vtg0SfsMVPlDH apo2md1xu%2Bly39DM6VcOpQZCWV7JRgnCDmUDiJMyYkWoSUxy ruFOExG3u12a9Y9VW30%2Fjlda9rY1mNU%2FudajFnGOSYZpBT bWWub8CxTBrgCkDHkKc9UOatKcW%2FxV1QUgwSLPQsW2UiGIlY cdJSZvvWwUlJzef%2F826sf549thoIgkAp5tkXEYZFYBkBxOSH bexGfXd2JBO5zo4c%2BIvkF%2FyuLTog%3D).
First thing I noticed was that during X-Men 2, (the only disc I've tried on it so far)...there is NO layer change delay. WOO-HOO. The Toshiba was slow, and seems to have gotten worse over the last 3 years. I threw in a few other discs that I am well familiar with, (T2, Gladiator, Monsters, Inc) just for a few minutes each, and either my eyes are playing tricks or, the video seems much more vivid, and more '3-D' on the Pioneer. Very noticeably.
Unlike some reviews, my 563 has no negative bass management issues in H/T. Works splendid.
Considering the Tosh. 5109 retailed for $1k in year 2000, and the Pioneer 563 retails for under $200, I am really scratching my head over this one...is it me, or has 3 years of technology gotten better, AND more inexpensive? :confused:
I will do some a/b tests tomorrow.
In the meantime, anybody want to chip in thier thoughts, please?
I wonder what 500+ bucks can get me nowdays....(not that I want to spend it, but hey....)
The reason I'm soliciting feedback, is I have 30 days to take this thing back.
Thanks everyone!