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Worf101
08-04-2005, 06:20 AM
Some real stinkeroo's here. Talk about the sophmore slumps but this isn't just limited to Part II's it can include later iterations of multi movie franchises that somehow lose their way. Be good and have fun.

Worf101
08-04-2005, 06:36 AM
"The Howling" is one of if not my fave Werewolf movie with "Dog Soldiers" right behind. It was bright, funny, scary and witty and has the greatest werewolf transformation sequence ever filmed and that includes the awful dog thing from "An American Werewolf in London". I really lloved that film. The sequel with Christopher Lee is as absolute nightmarish mish mash of softcore porn and rank stupidity. Never has a more promising franchise been so thoroughly and completely destroyed by hacks. All that is bad with Hollywood, wrapped in one big stinkin' pile o' dung.

Da Worfster :mad:

daigoro
08-04-2005, 07:13 AM
Some real stinkeroo's here. Talk about the sophmore slumps but this isn't just limited to Part II's it can include later iterations of multi movie franchises that somehow lose their way. Be good and have fun.

The award for biggest drop in quality from original to sequel goes to:

Caddyshack II
Jaws II
Jaws III
Jaws IV
Star Wars Episode I
Excorcist II
European Vacation

On the positive side, best sequels ever includes:

Godfather II
Aliens
The Empire Strikes Back
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan

Movies that i HOPE are never re-made or sequeled:

The Graduate
Animal House
Blade Runner

Sir Terrence the Terrible
08-04-2005, 07:25 AM
Holy pig crap Batman, we are stinko!!!! If I was Robin, this is what I would have said in this movie. Brown drivel this crap is....

Kam
08-04-2005, 09:00 AM
Holy pig crap Batman, we are stinko!!!! If I was Robin, this is what I would have said in this movie. Brown drivel this crap is....

agreed with sirttt on this one, schumacker destroyed the franchise. (thankfully nolan has revived it). but wow, were these batcrap's just some of the worst movies ever. but only because you didnt include Jaws IV... that movie is anathema to me.

and while animal house is still safe from hollywood, a number of classic remakes (and tv show remakes) are currently in development:

Porky's
Revenge of the Nerds
The 39 Steps (one of my favorite hitchcock movies, WHY are they doing this?)
The Evil Dead
I Dream of Jeannie (with kate hudson)
The Incredible Shrinking Man
and if you're a fan of japanese cinema, especially japanese horror, nearly EVERYTHING of the last 5 years over there is being remade over here. (even scorcese's new movie, The Departed, is based on the japanese movie, "The Informer")

so... dont expect anything "new" coming out of hollywood for quite some time.

peace
k2

kexodusc
08-04-2005, 09:16 AM
I had to Vote for the odd numbered Star Trek's. Say what you want about any of the others. Star Trek is a franchise with creative resources that dwarf the Lucasfilm empire. I'm not talking money.
I'm talking the 400 different writers they've had over the years, the corporation of alien makers.

A Star Trek video game should NEVER have a more compelling story than a Star Trek movie.

Hands up, how many of us have ever seen a bad Start Trek episode that was better than those 2 movies?

You mean to tell me that you can produce a 1 hour episode on a $1,000,000 budget better than you can produce a 2 hour movie on a $50 million budget?

Unacceptable...there's some bad sequels out there (The Next Karate Kid, Karate Kid Pt. II, Karate Kid Pt. III) but they didn't fall as far or as hard as Star Trek did.

From now on, the tv writers write Star Trek movies.

eisforelectronic
08-04-2005, 09:51 AM
Now this was a hard decision! I went with the Star Treks mainly because I hated #5 and generations soo much. But, really, will any Star Trek sequel ever equal "Wrath of Khan"?

Lexmark3200
08-04-2005, 10:57 AM
Alright, let me give you my take on this.....

STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN is probably the BEST example of one of the BEST sequels ever made, hands down, and not just primarily because it simply wiped the ass of THE MOTION PICTURE which was a massive bore. Its just one of the finest science fiction films ever made what with its battles between the Enterprise and Reliant, and the whole tension and revenge plot between Kirk and Khan from the original series.

Now, that said, heres my votes for WORST SEQUELS because these always stand out in my mind:

EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC
2FAST2FURIOUS
GREASE 2

Worf101
08-04-2005, 11:11 AM
The award for biggest drop in quality from original to sequel goes to:

Caddyshack II
Jaws II
Jaws III
Jaws IV
Star Wars Episode I
Excorcist II
European Vacation

On the positive side, best sequels ever includes:

Godfather II
Aliens
The Empire Strikes Back
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan

Movies that i HOPE are never re-made or sequeled:

The Graduate
Animal House
Blade Runner

One, two and four could've easily been on this list and probably should be. Before the next poll I may have to consult with ya and a few of the other heads round here to round out the top 10.

Da Worfster
:cool:

Woochifer
08-04-2005, 11:50 AM
I voted for Batman and Robin, my gawd what a horrible all-around abortion of a movie that was.

And the nipples on the batsuit, WTF was that all about?! Maybe this was one of the deleted scenes:

Robin: Holy refugee camp! I'm starving Batman!
Batman: Hang in there boy wonder, I've got just the thing. I'm wearing my new Batlactator suit! Here, suck on one of these...
Robin: IIIIIIIIIIII ddddon't knnnnow, those don't look very safe to me.
Batman: Oh man, did you catch me in the batcave nursing myself? You weren't supposed to see that!
Robin: Yeah, talk about disturbing sights! You know I'm not down with double dipping, so why you offering me those sagging flesh sacks? You wash those skanky pointers before you go about offering them to someone, okay?
Batman: Sorry 'bout that! Next time, I'll remember to bring an extra energy bar.

I thought the series was buried and gone after the Batman and Robin debaucle. Thankfully, the studio allowed some time for that stench to air out, and totally reboot the series with Christopher Nolan's almost miraculously good Batman Begins.

Some other stinker sequels that come to mind:

Speed II
Under Seige II
Beverly Hills Cop III
Another 48 Hours
Superman III & IV
Matrix Reloaded & Revolutions
Jurassic Park II
Robocop II & III
Rambo II & III (First Blood was actually a good movie)

steamboy 2
08-04-2005, 01:29 PM
batman & robin
jaws 4
excorcist 2
superman 3 & 4
speed 2
robocop 3

here's one of many problems that sequels have is the screenplay. you would think that the studio's would say no to bad ideas & screenplays to good & great movies & also the director's to agree too, because they are the ones who gets most of the blame for making that bad sequel.

Lexmark3200
08-04-2005, 03:27 PM
Yeah guys, I'll agree that after BATMAN RETURNS, the franchise went down the toilet, most notably because Joel Shumacker got his paws on them; Batman and Robin was horrid, especially with George Clooney as Bruce Wayne/Batman (HORRIBLE choice; only Michael Keaton got this role right even with the spot-on Batman "sneer" from under the mask) and the God-awful Mr Freeze played by Schwazzanegger.....

BUT, I am still going to pick up the FRANCHISE BOX SET Warner is releasing this October of all the Batman films digitally remastered and with DTS audio, to boot, because I think as a whole, Im a fan of the franchise.....yet nothing will approach Burton's first dark film with Nicholson as the Joker and Keaton as the caped crusader.

Lexmark3200
08-04-2005, 03:28 PM
batman & robin
jaws 4
excorcist 2
superman 3 & 4
speed 2
robocop 3

here's one of many problems that sequels have is the screenplay. you would think that the studio's would say no to bad ideas & screenplays to good & great movies & also the director's to agree too, because they are the ones who gets most of the blame for making that bad sequel.

Yes! Thats right! How can I forget??? JAWS: THE REVENGE is one of the worst films ever made; and yet I have it on DVD just to complete the JAWS collection I have. I dont so much mind Superman III and IV but they WERE utter crap compared to the almost-perfect SUPERMAN II.....

And speaking of that, does anyone have any information regarding the Special Edition of Superman II that was supposed to be released? Its the franchise's most popular and best entry, and yet we havent yet seen the SE treatment on this. I havent bought the SUPERMAN COLLECTION box set yet because I just dont enjoy them all as much as II......

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!!

paul_pci
08-04-2005, 10:25 PM
I voted for Godfather III for two reasons. Number 1: Godfather was perfect until 3 came along, which made 3 worse than it really is; it's insult and injury at the same time. Number 2: it represents a problem for sequels that are shared by others on the poll list, namely that it's just beating a dead horse (pun intended). Let's put the story to bed already: Terminator, Rocky, Aliens, Jaws, Jurrasic Park, etc.

RGA
08-04-2005, 11:26 PM
The idea for worst sequels is good and at first I would have chosen the batman and Robin film BUT it depends how you view the worst sequal. Worst FILM I agree with Woochifer as a wholesale dung heep of a film. The problem is the film isn;t much of a come down from the first three which were all mediocre (except Batman Begins which they finally got right).

To my way of thinking a bad sequal has to fall very far from the original. Or if the first two were good then third falls greatly. My pick would probably go to Star Trek 5 as falling so far from the very good Star Trek IV. And I'd even be tempted on Terminator 3 and Aliens 3.

My Big Come down sequals are as follows:
Out of 5 stars

Rocky ***1/2
Rocky 2 **1/2
Rocky 3 **
Rocky 4 *1/2
Rocky 5 *

Terminator ****1/2
Terminator 2 ****
Terminator 3 *1/2 (major dissapointment)

Alien ***
Aliens ****1/2
Alien 3 *1/2 (man what dreck)
Alien: Resurection **

Poltergeist ****
Poltergeist 2 * (Ugh)

Exorcist *****
Exorcist 2: The Heretic *1/2 (man why bother)

Star Trek **
Star Trek II ****
Star Trek III ***
Star Trek IV ****
Star Trek V *
Star Trek 6 ***
Star Trek: Generations **1/2
Star Trek: First Contact ***1/2
Star Trek: Insurection ***
Star Trek: Nemesis ***

Superman ***1/2
Superman II ****
Superman III *1/2 (Stupid film)
Superman IV *
Supergirl * (if it counts)

Speed ***
Speed II *

2001: A Space Odyssey *****
2010: ** (Why?)

Jaws *****
Jaws II ***
Jaws 3D *1/2
Jaws: The Revenge -- No Stars (Michael Caine needed a new beach house apparently)

Halloween ****1/2
Halloween II *1/2 (what a mess)

Batman **1/2
Batman Returns **
Batman Forever **
Batman and Robin 1/2*
Batman Begins ****

There are many more but it's too late.

kexodusc
08-05-2005, 03:21 AM
To my way of thinking a bad sequal has to fall very far from the original. Or if the first two were good then third falls greatly. My pick would probably go to Star Trek 5 as falling so far from the very good Star Trek IV. And I'd even be tempted on Terminator 3 and Aliens 3.



I think this is why Blade 3 didn't make the list.

Worf101
08-05-2005, 06:30 AM
The biggest drop-off in quality is a good criteria for rating worst sequels. And using that criteria, my choice of Howling II still stands. It was awful. Good responses folks...

Da Worfster :cool:

GMichael
08-05-2005, 07:53 AM
Nice list RGA. I think you hit it on the head.

Lexmark3200
08-05-2005, 11:40 AM
.....and being a die hard Trek fan, I'll second that vote for STAR TREK V....the WORST entry in the ENTIRE franchise.....

Lexmark3200
08-05-2005, 11:55 AM
Here's how I feel about RGA's professional and thought-out list.....

"Rocky ***1/2
Rocky 2 **1/2
Rocky 3 **
Rocky 4 *1/2
Rocky 5"

Liked all of them and thought in terms of sequeling, this was the best box set I purchased.

"Terminator ****1/2
Terminator 2 ****
Terminator 3 *1/2 (major dissapointment)"

Liked T3 the best believe it or not; the first one put me to sleep.

"Alien ***
Aliens ****1/2
Alien 3 *1/2 (man what dreck)
Alien: Resurection **"

The only one REALLY worth watching is the first,

"Poltergeist ****
Poltergeist 2 * (Ugh)"

I actually liked one two and three in this series......

"Exorcist *****
Exorcist 2: The Heretic *1/2 (man why bother)"

The first film is anabsolute gem, the second one of the WORST FILMS OF ALL TIME, the third a good sequel to the first and the fourth prequel just unnecessary.

"Star Trek **
Star Trek II ****
Star Trek III ***
Star Trek IV ****
Star Trek V *
Star Trek 6 ***
Star Trek: Generations **1/2
Star Trek: First Contact ***1/2
Star Trek: Insurection ***
Star Trek: Nemesis ***"

Liked them all except V......

"Superman ***1/2
Superman II ****
Superman III *1/2 (Stupid film)
Superman IV *
Supergirl * (if it counts)"

Oh God....SUPERGIRL? Give me a break....a waste of celluloid and any film student will even tell you that; at any rate, I enjoyed Superman II the best and cant wait for that Special Edition to be released if it ever will be......

"Speed ***
Speed II *"

The second one sucked and was totally unnecessary.

"2001: A Space Odyssey *****
2010: ** (Why?)"

Right.

"Jaws *****
Jaws II ***
Jaws 3D *1/2
Jaws: The Revenge -- No Stars (Michael Caine needed a new beach house apparently)"

Absolutely agreed; I think Jaws 2 worked for the most part but the series went dowhill from there----BUT I do own all of them on DVD and watching part 3 in Sea World with Louis Gossett Jr is always a hoot......THE REVENGE is a smoldering piece of dog vomit.....

"Halloween ****1/2
Halloween II *1/2 (what a mess)"

Oh I disagree here; HALLOWEEN is a FANTASTIC film and the sequel does a good job in keeping Carpenter's pacing a bit more, but you cant go by me because I liked Halloween III and 4: The Return of Michael Myers, too; after that, the franchise went into the toilet....BUSTA RHYMES starring in a Halloween film? John Carpenter should shoot someone for this....

But as a SEQUEL, picking up EXACTLY WHERE Halloween left off, I think HALLOWEEN II worked very well.....even updating Carpenter's classic score in a more modern, synthesized fashion.

"Batman **1/2
Batman Returns **
Batman Forever **
Batman and Robin 1/2*
Batman Begins ****"

I liked them all and plan on picking up the remastered box set when its out this Fall----BUT, there is NO DOUBT that the first two are MUCH better than the last two, ESPECIALLY the awful BATMAN AND ROBIN with Schwazzanger and Clooney (HORRIBLE choices here; no one played the Bruce Wayne role or looked better as Batman behind the suit than Michael Keaton, and no one played the villian better than Nicholson's Joker). This is all discounting BATMAN BEGINS because I havent seen it...

RGA
08-05-2005, 05:49 PM
*** or better I recommend.

Rocky I liked more when I was a kid - I don't think they hold-up well except for the original whihc had a plausible story. Part three was pretty lame and 4 was another America propaganda piece and 5 was downright terrible.

Halloween II was awful -- let's get away from the scares and go for the gore. One kinows it's a bad horror film when they have to resort to killing characters off by having them slip on blood. Parts three on were bad as well - part 6 being one of the worst films of the horror genre.

Terminator 3 was non-stop action and non-stop boredom. Give me a story please - create a character someone cares about please. The original Terminator I consider to be a classic Romance film supplanted in the Science Fiction/Thriller genre. It propelled Arnold, James Cameron and Linda Hamilton to greater things by escaping the usual by the numbers formula. The film had a strong story, intelligent people and smart unstoppable(almost) adversary. Part 2 held up well adding impressive special effects and retained the elements of the original along the same story arc. Patrt 3 was tacked on rubbish solely to make some bucks. The villain was a complete bore they did nothing with and the internal battle of Arnold was howlingly laughable.

Alien versus Aliens is debateable because I feel the two films are of different genres. Alien is a slasher film in space and an alien instead of a guy in a hiockey mask. In other words it's a straight up horror flick with the killer/alien picking off the crew. Aliens is more ambitious getting into the sci-fi/thriller/action mold with some politics of the future of mankind. But it's less scary perhaps than the original - but they go for more special effects and more story all around. It's in my opinion more watchable on multiple viewings. Alien 3 was caca.

Batman almost got *** on the sheer strength of Jack Nicholson's over-the-top Joker. The problem is that every second he was NOT on the screen Batman was a total crapfest. The Dialogue was just so bad.

Part 2 and 3 were plain boring and Batman and Robin was unexplainably horrid.

The Exorcist was somewhat redeemed by part 3 which was mildly watchable tahnks to George C Scott.

eisforelectronic
08-05-2005, 08:17 PM
I consider Aliens to be one of the Best movies ever made.

Lexmark3200
08-05-2005, 08:49 PM
"Rocky I liked more when I was a kid - I don't think they hold-up well except for the original whihc had a plausible story. Part three was pretty lame and 4 was another America propaganda piece and 5 was downright terrible."

They all tie together as a great series in the end. Five was pretty bad, but not as bad as the press it received.

"Halloween II was awful -- let's get away from the scares and go for the gore."

This is what the film has ALWAYS been accused of but it is NEVER UNDERSTOOD BY ANYONE is the fact that RICK ROSENTHAL is no John Carpenter, as everyone "thought" he should have been.....the film absolutely works as a sequel to me.

"One kinows it's a bad horror film when they have to resort to killing characters off by having them slip on blood. Parts three on were bad as well - part 6 being one of the worst films of the horror genre."

After 4: The Return of Michael Myers (which, if you are a Halloween fan, you would understand was the last of the films in the franchise to bring back the "classic" feel of these pictures) the series indeed went downhill.....like I said, as soon as I saw BUSTA RHYMES in the last entry, I knew it was over.......

"Terminator 3 was non-stop action and non-stop boredom. Give me a story please - create a character someone cares about please. The original Terminator I consider to be a classic Romance film supplanted in the Science Fiction/Thriller genre. It propelled Arnold, James Cameron and Linda Hamilton to greater things by escaping the usual by the numbers formula. The film had a strong story, intelligent people and smart unstoppable(almost) adversary. Part 2 held up well adding impressive special effects and retained the elements of the original along the same story arc. Patrt 3 was tacked on rubbish solely to make some bucks. The villain was a complete bore they did nothing with and the internal battle of Arnold was howlingly laughable."

Thats an opinion, and you are entitled to it, but 3 was my favorite and the first one simply put me to sleep in comparison to it; no matter what "film scholars" say. I can think of 100 science fiction films I enjoy better than the original Terminator.

"Batman almost got *** on the sheer strength of Jack Nicholson's over-the-top Joker. The problem is that every second he was NOT on the screen Batman was a total crapfest. The Dialogue was just so bad."

I disagree. NOBODY but Keaton got the Batman "sneer" behind the mask down nor the "gestures" of the caped crusader; just watch that scene when Keaton is holding up Nicholson and Nicholson says "nice outfit....." before he gets dropped into the vat of acid......Keaton's sneer beneath the mask was SPOT ON.

"Part 2 and 3 were plain boring and Batman and Robin was unexplainably horrid."

Batman returns was not that bad; I'll give you the rest.

"The Exorcist was somewhat redeemed by part 3 which was mildly watchable tahnks to George C Scott."

Oh man.....if you think George C Scott's performance was the only saving grace of that story, you better think again or read the novel its based on, LEGION......I read the book twice and have seen Exorcist III COUNTLESS times and there is much much more to that story that makes it a GENUINE sequel to the original than what you mention.

RGA
08-07-2005, 11:05 AM
I consider Aliens to be one of the Best movies ever made.

It's in my top 100 all time

RGA
08-07-2005, 11:07 AM
They all tie together as a great series in the end. Five was pretty bad, but not as bad as the press it received.

Yes it was as bad as the press it received -- it is one of the worst pieces of crap ever filmed and deserved it's all around lambasting. Most critics hated part 3 and 4 as well - and a great many didn't even like part 2. Part 5 had the visual look of a made for tv epiosode and Sly was especially poor.



This is what the film has ALWAYS been accused of but it is NEVER UNDERSTOOD BY ANYONE is the fact that RICK ROSENTHAL is no John Carpenter, as everyone "thought" he should have been.....the film absolutely works as a sequel to me.

That's fine most people think it's crap and I'm in the most people camp on this one. You're right that he is no Carpenter who did not want another one made - and John was right. The original Halloween ended perfectly with a menacing open ending -- There was no need to make another film except to make a profit.



Thats an opinion, and you are entitled to it, but 3 was my favorite and the first one simply put me to sleep in comparison to it; no matter what "film scholars" say. I can think of 100 science fiction films I enjoy better than the original Terminator.

Well it's always opinion but I'm sorry IMO part 3 was written for ten year old boys - it is moronically juvenile and I can't see anyone liking this piece of crap over the orriginal -- for some it must all be about the quality of the special effects - and most serious film scholars probably would not be talking about any of the Terminator films other than the first one which is by far the smartest as science fiction and most RAW of the three. It's special effects don't hold up well - I believe it was stop motion animation and filmed on 1.5 million budget. I know some people like part 2(the extended edition) better and I can grant them that because it has more of an epic scope than the first but part 3??? Man.



I disagree. NOBODY but Keaton got the Batman "sneer" behind the mask down nor the "gestures" of the caped crusader; just watch that scene when Keaton is holding up Nicholson and Nicholson says "nice outfit....." before he gets dropped into the vat of acid......Keaton's sneer beneath the mask was SPOT ON.

Nothing wrong with Keaton until he had to utter the atrocious lines the writers gave him. The Dialogue with Vicky Vale and Keaton in the Bat Cave is some of the most atrocious dialiogue I have had the misfortune of listening to. Her character and performance was atrocious. I was not overly thrilled with the visual style of any of the first 4 of these films -- especially compared to Batman Begins which is so vastly superior to the lot it's not even a contest. And to be honest I'd rather watch the Cult classic hilariously silly Original 1966 Batman Movie starring the pot-bellied Adam West as Batman. At least the dialogue was Intentionally inane.

Lexmark3200
08-07-2005, 12:00 PM
"Yes it was as bad as the press it received"

No it was not.

"it is one of the worst pieces of crap ever filmed and deserved it's all around lambasting."

Thats a pretty professionally polished comment coming from someone who has an "official film rating system that we should all go by" for this site......I disagree, however. It was compelling in the fact that the series came full circle back to Stallone's neighborhood and ended with a hand to hand street fight, which Balboa was most known for in his days of club fighting.

"Most critics hated part 3 and 4 as well - and a great many didn't even like part 2. Part 5 had the visual look of a made for tv epiosode and Sly was especially poor"

Lets just begin with the fact that I dont believe any of these were meant to be taken too seriously, I dont, once again, put stock in these "critics" you keep bringing up-----cinema is an art form and enjoys the availability of having the opportunity to be judged, "criticized" and found to be apprehensible or enjoyed by ANYONE so really.....who cares what these critics say? Its who LIKES the films at the end of the day personally. You dont; I do. Pretty much end of case.

"That's fine most people think it's crap and I'm in the most people camp on this one."

Sure, but sure as **** not diehard Carpenter fans or horror enthusiasts who knew a good sequel when they laid eyes on one-----people, again, just DONT UNDERSTAND Rick Rosenthal's decisions on this one.

"You're right that he is no Carpenter who did not want another one made - and John was right. The original Halloween ended perfectly with a menacing open ending -- There was no need to make another film except to make a profit."

Then what would have been the point of having Myers gone after Loomis shoots him with the piano score by Alan Howarth and Carpenter playing?

"Well it's always opinion but I'm sorry IMO part 3 was written for ten year old boys - it is moronically juvenile and I can't see anyone liking this piece of crap over the orriginal -- for some it must all be about the quality of the special effects - and most serious film scholars probably would not be talking about any of the Terminator films other than the first one which is by far the smartest as science fiction and most RAW of the three. It's special effects don't hold up well - I believe it was stop motion animation and filmed on 1.5 million budget. I know some people like part 2(the extended edition) better and I can grant them that because it has more of an epic scope than the first but part 3??? Man."

Granted, it is not enjoyed by diehard Terminator fans, and I am saying that I am in this camp----Im not a Terminator fan and enjoyed THREE on its own. Let me tell you something, whether you believe this story or not (it's true)......I interviewed Jonathan Mostow for HOME THEATER MAGAZINE and he told me that he enjoys the fact that this third part CAN sit by itself on its own to appeal to ACTION FILM fans without being "loyal" to the franchise in general.....the DIRECTOR told me this, so part of the ridiculousness you accuse this film of having was intentional by Mostow because he was out to create an over the top action set piece which could be enjoyed by non diehard fans of the entire franchise....HE believes the film can and was meant to kind of stand on its own.

"Nothing wrong with Keaton until he had to utter the atrocious lines the writers gave him."

Perhaps this MAY be the case, yet on the surface I disagree.

"The Dialogue with Vicky Vale and Keaton in the Bat Cave is some of the most atrocious dialiogue I have had the misfortune of listening to. Her character and performance was atrocious."

What EXACTLY were you LOOKING FOR here in these scenes? Did you EXPECT Bassinger to actually CARRY these sequences for some reason?

"I was not overly thrilled with the visual style of any of the first 4 of these films -- especially compared to Batman Begins which is so vastly superior to the lot it's not even a contest."

Cant comment because I didnt yet see Batman Begins, believe that or not.

"And to be honest I'd rather watch the Cult classic hilariously silly Original 1966 Batman Movie starring the pot-bellied Adam West as Batman. At least the dialogue was Intentionally inane."

Oh pluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ .

steamboy 2
08-07-2005, 12:01 PM
Most of the friday the 13th's & halloween's 3 through 6 & the last one & also most of the nightmare on elem st.'s

Lexmark3200
08-08-2005, 04:07 PM
Ruh oh........You guys found me out. Okay(gulp) I am guilty as hell. I was the reason he got banned. I know I shouldn't have done it(a small tear swells up in me eye). Here is the story about that dreaded thread. Come on....gather around.


Okay(double gulp) During a equipment failure break on a recording I was working on, I got on the internet and just started surfing. I guess I was looking for another website to contribute to(I knew you guys were getting sick of me). I ran across hometheaterdiscussion.com. I didn't mean to do it, but I did. On my first day after registering, I came across a thread containing a movie review on a movie that I did the sound in the film. The review was VERY harsh on the sound of the DVD, and it contained some judgements a so called facts that were just not accurate. Okay, all of you who have known me over the years know that I don't let nothing like that escape me. I went out, purchased the DVD, and analyzed the sound through Sound Forge(thanks Sony), and listened to it through my system, and rebutted his review with facts. Well, I'll say this, I have never been cussed out online like that in my life. But I never personally attacked back, I just stuck with the facts. The more calm I remained, the more he cussed me out. Other members tried to calm DJ Scotty down, but to no avail. Finally the site owner closed the thread and banned DJ Scotty. He also sent me a PM apologizing for his behavior and asking me to remain with the forum. It was all good to me, as his cussing didn't hurt me, I am totally insensitive to being cussed out, I grew up in New York City, everyone cussed someone out there!

The people at that website are so cool. I still to this day do not know why he was so angry. Did I attack him personally at any time during the discussion? NO, not one time. What I did do was challenge him in his own backyard which I am sure hurt his ego a bit. But this wasn't about him, it was about his information which was bogus.

I hope he stays here and continues to do his reviews. My hope is he will really hone his craft, be more open for crititsizm as this is an open forum, and when you put your views out there, be ready(and educated enough)to support those views with fact, not opinion.(dang that was a long sentence)
Shorten them, get to the point(any editor would tell you that) and don't give away too much(you'll take away the interest in seeing the movie). Know your stuff, recognize when then film was made, and compare to the movies made in that period, not was is made today. Know your DVD audio formats. Know the bitrate of the DD or Dts track, and do more background on the aspect ratios, so you can be sure of what you write(I use the Pandora box aspect measurement software).

If he did these things, his reviewing skills would be off the chart. He has a passion for this, and I would like to encourage him to continue. Just be more open.

I have said all of this in the true spirit of brotherhood, peace on earth, and goodwill towards my fellow man. No malice, no hate, no insult, and no personal attack is intended.

Thank you, and good night!!

Terrence,

With all your laboring to pretend you were being kind I KNEW who was responsible for that incident on the other site as I was TOLD by Ray Cruz; and I was also told that it WAS purposely done.....it didnt matter to me, because as I told them when I wanted to come back (after Ray told me it was you who started all the problems purposely), I also told them that on second thought I wasnt going to because I became senior disc reviewer for another site in the interim (NOT this site); your secret is really no secret, and indeed I told Ray and administration on the other site EXACTLY your reasons for coming in there, what you were going to do and indeed you did it; these character flaws were told to me by Ray Cruz to be "unfortunate" and that he was "sad to see me go" but he was well aware of what kind of individual you were; there were no secrets there, my friend.

I continue writing reviews at any rate for multiple publications and multiple sites.

Enjoy your evening!

ericl
08-08-2005, 04:18 PM
RGA and Lexmark3200's food fight has been moved to the Steel Cage.
It's still active because i can't bear to split you two up. :rolleyes:
Keep it there fellas, or else there will be no more DVD reviewing or AudioNote praising!
http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=12993

Please keep this thread on the topic of stinker sequels!

Speaking of which, I saw that the Sci-Fi channel played all of the "Tremors" series this weekend. Man, I didn't know they made any sequels, but they made three sequels! how goofy is that? I wanted to check them out, but didn't get to watch them. I remember lauging my ass off with my buddy watching the first one, geez, the next THREE must have been painful!

-eric

Sir Terrence the Terrible
08-08-2005, 06:10 PM
Terrence,

With all your laboring to pretend you were being kind I KNEW who was responsible for that incident on the other site as I was TOLD by Ray Cruz; and I was also told that it WAS purposely done.....it didnt matter to me, because as I told them when I wanted to come back (after Ray told me it was you who started all the problems purposely), I also told them that on second thought I wasnt going to because I became senior disc reviewer for another site in the interim (NOT this site); your secret is really no secret, and indeed I told Ray and administration on the other site EXACTLY your reasons for coming in there, what you were going to do and indeed you did it; these character flaws were told to me by Ray Cruz to be "unfortunate" and that he was "sad to see me go" but he was well aware of what kind of individual you were; there were no secrets there, my friend.

I continue writing reviews at any rate for multiple publications and multiple sites.

Enjoy your evening!

I am taking this to the food fight section....it doesn't belong here.