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enrique
04-26-2005, 04:32 PM
I hear alot about people describing their rooms as small,medium or large rooms.What minimum measurements are considered for each .I mean like my room is 19.5 x 22.5 with 8' cealing would this be considered small,med. or large.Just trying to get an idea as to when people describe their rooms for ht etc.

hershon
04-26-2005, 05:09 PM
If you're over 7' foot tall you have no choice but to consider it small. I have 10 million to my name. Am I considered rich or am I just a poor millionaire? I use Ebay as a hobby.



I hear alot about people describing their rooms as small,medium or large rooms.What minimum measurements are considered for each .I mean like my room is 19.5 x 22.5 with 8' cealing would this be considered small,med. or large.Just trying to get an idea as to when people describe their rooms for ht etc.

Astro
04-26-2005, 11:17 PM
If you're over 7' foot tall you have no choice but to consider it small. I have 10 million to my name. Am I considered rich or am I just a poor millionaire? I use Ebay as a hobby.

???????/that made absolutely no sence to me, ?

hershon
04-27-2005, 12:57 AM
???????/that made absolutely no sence to me, ?

I think you meant seance. Wilt Chamberlin communicated that to me during the sence.

N. Abstentia
04-27-2005, 04:17 AM
I think Herson is drunk again.

IRG
04-27-2005, 05:23 AM
I think Herson is drunk again.

I think so too. Maybe time for him not to frequent this board so much. I really wouldn't miss his witty posts all that much. As for room size to the original poster, I don't know if there is really an absolute number we can give you. Your room seems like a medium to large room size, that being in a typical home. Small room would be a bedroom type size, in the 10 x 12 range, mdeium in the 15 x 20 range and large over that. Of course cathedral ceilings and all that do add to the overall size. And some custom homes have really huge open family rooms that might be considered extra large.

But your room overall is medium, close to being large. IMO.

shokhead
04-27-2005, 06:03 AM
I'm glad its not up to you who is allowed here or did they make you boss and i missed it?
No such animal as a typical home but for a kitchen,2 bedrooms and a bath. Size will differ from east coast to west coast. 50's home way different then a newer home so if your lets say buying a sub,ask the sub maker about the size of your room and see what they say. My big den could be med to others.

paul_pci
04-27-2005, 09:10 AM
I think Hershon's response is just an eccentric reaction to what others would say more straightforwardly: room size is more relative than standard or absolute. I'm in a large bedrrom: 16X12, yet by audio standards, most would quip that it's a small room. I've seen living rooms in apts that are small than my current bedroom. There's also the question of open architecture or not. For instance, in a bedroom, you're talking about an enclosed room, but for a living/family room in a house or apt. you're talking, more likely than not, about more open space which needs to be accounted for acoustically beyond the arbitrary delineations of room boundaries.

IRG
04-27-2005, 10:37 AM
I'm glad its not up to you who is allowed here or did they make you boss and i missed it?
No such animal as a typical home but for a kitchen,2 bedrooms and a bath. Size will differ from east coast to west coast. 50's home way different then a newer home so if your lets say buying a sub,ask the sub maker about the size of your room and see what they say. My big den could be med to others.

Chill. Did I say he shouldn't be allowed here? No, I just mentioned I wouldn't miss his posts so much, especially the ones that aren't the least bit helpful and coherent. You did read his replies correct? Anyway, I still think we can basically assign parameters to room size. No one (except maybe you) would disagree with a 10 x 12 room as small. And a 25 x 50 room as large. I guess it's the size in the middle that gets murky. There's always going to be some guesswork involved to an extent on determining what is the best size speakers/sub for rooms. And starting with asking the manufacturer as you suggested is a good place to start.

hershon
04-27-2005, 01:51 PM
Given the parameters of the room he stated, 19.5 x 22.5 with 8' ceiling with an "i" , wouldn't that be large to anyone except someone 7 feet tall- so what's your problem? In regard to my seance for Wilt Chamberlin, the previous poster brought that up, not me, although seance is not spelled sence.

Eric Z
04-27-2005, 03:48 PM
Seance? Now we're talking- I'm sure everyone's into some type of spiritualistic gathering in your small/medium/large size room! Now this is all starting to make sense.

Back to the original question- good point regarding room sizes. It's funny because different speaker companies have recommendations for subwoofers depending on room size. For example, you'll read something like, "This 10" subwoofer performs best in medium to large size rooms." It would be nice if it read something like, "This 10" subwoofer performs best in rooms betweem 300 to 500 sq ft." That would also not be very descriptive because of vaulted ceilings and open floor plans. Maybe we should be talking volume... okay, maybe just demo a subwoofer and see how it sounds; however, it is nice to have a starting point though.

Geoffcin
04-27-2005, 04:14 PM
Room size is a MAJOR factor with sound reproduction, and specifically what speakers you purchase. Unless you have a room with at least 16 feet of debth, I would not reccomend planars. It's not that they don't sound good close up, they do, but for them to sould best you want them 4ft from the front wall. In a 12ft deep room they would dominate the whole room.

Subs are another BIG factor as Eric Z points out. I've heard good 10" subs that would be plenty for a 16' X 12' X 8' room, but as you get over that you really have to go up quickly to match the same SPL. My main listen room, although nominally 16' X 22' with an 11' catherdral ceiling is, because of an open floor plan, effectively 22' X 32' for the bass Bass can get lost in a room this size, and your going to have to budget for a very serious sub if you want to have it at theater levels.

IRG
04-28-2005, 04:37 AM
Seance? Now we're talking- I'm sure everyone's into some type of spiritualistic gathering in your small/medium/large size room! Now this is all starting to make sense.

Back to the original question- good point regarding room sizes. It's funny because different speaker companies have recommendations for subwoofers depending on room size. For example, you'll read something like, "This 10" subwoofer performs best in medium to large size rooms." It would be nice if it read something like, "This 10" subwoofer performs best in rooms betweem 300 to 500 sq ft." That would also not be very descriptive because of vaulted ceilings and open floor plans. Maybe we should be talking volume... okay, maybe just demo a subwoofer and see how it sounds; however, it is nice to have a starting point though.

Exactly. Now that makes sense :) Demoing is always preferred, but some sort of starting point does seem to make sense to me. Sort of like painting a room. A gallon of paint will be good for xyz dimensions. Depending on your room size you may need 1, 2 or 3 gallons. I would like to see the subwoofer specialists like SVS, Hsu, Velodyne, etc. put room size recommendations with their subs - as a starting point. Doesn't seem like that would be too impossible.

shokhead
04-28-2005, 05:05 AM
Could confuse more then help. To much other then room size to figure in but i agree,some sort of starting guildline.

kexodusc
04-28-2005, 07:48 AM
My main listen room, although nominally 16' X 22' with an 11' catherdral ceiling is, because of an open floor plan, effectively 22' X 32' for the bass Bass can get lost in a room this size, and your going to have to budget for a very serious sub if you want to have it at theater levels.

I hear that Geoffcin, my new living room is only a few square feet larger with about the same height ceiling, but the two entryways really suck out the bass. 20 X 24 becomes 20 X 38 or so very quickly. Sub placement is a real @#*%$, 6 months later and I still haven't decided where I like it. (well I went sans-sub for about 1/2 of that).

Almost done my new 15" sealed though, just need to veneer and finish...the WAF won't permit a lovely raw-MDF finish on a 5 cubic foot cabinet. Talk about fussy.

s dog
04-28-2005, 09:06 AM
Room size is a MAJOR factor with sound reproduction, and specifically what speakers you purchase. Unless you have a room with at least 16 feet of debth, I would not reccomend planars. It's not that they don't sound good close up, they do, but for them to sould best you want them 4ft from the front wall. In a 12ft deep room they would dominate the whole room.

Subs are another BIG factor as Eric Z points out. I've heard good 10" subs that would be plenty for a 16' X 12' X 8' room, but as you get over that you really have to go up quickly to match the same SPL. My main listen room, although nominally 16' X 22' with an 11' catherdral ceiling is, because of an open floor plan, effectively 22' X 32' for the bass Bass can get lost in a room this size, and your going to have to budget for a very serious sub if you want to have it at theater levels.
I have a paradigm ps1000 sub 10 inch,I have it in a 18'by12' room and it is more than enough,i only have one door opening to the room so the bass does not get lost, I guess that is why it is so loud, can hit 108dbs very easy on most dvds i play.

shokhead
04-28-2005, 09:21 AM
Below 25Hz? Thats pretty good.

s dog
04-28-2005, 09:08 PM
Below 25Hz? Thats pretty good.
Im not sure how low it is playing all i have is a rat shack sound meter, BTW the only time i can get that 108db is during action scenes and explosions,dvds like LOTR which has lots of heavy bass.

shokhead
04-29-2005, 05:55 AM
I'm thinking your missing a lot of LFE with a 10" sub. Its probably better for music then movies. I didnt know what i was missing until i upgraded.