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chimera128
03-06-2005, 07:51 AM
I think there should be a thread for WORST films. I just recently saw the grudge after my sister and several other people recommended watching it. They said it was a very scary movie, ie one said a lady in the theatre screamed outloud, so I was looking forward to it. Also there was a lot of hype about Jamie Foxx's performance (he won the Oscar so I may be wrong about that) but I wasn't really impressed by it. I thought he sounded more like Mike Tyson trying to do a Ray Charles impression.

What are the recent movies that you guys have watched, solely based on someone else's recommendation, that disappointed you?

Sir Terrence the Terrible
03-06-2005, 03:46 PM
Catwoman


(WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...reaches for his hair to pull it out....and realizes he has none...)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA(been running for hours to try and escape the horror of that movie and still can shake it)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA(goes and takes a shower and that does the job)AAAAHH!!!!!!

topspeed
03-06-2005, 10:55 PM
The Grudge completely sucked but I gotta disagree about JF in Ray. I thought he was absolutely brilliant. He didn't just play Ray Charles, he became Ray Charles. Did you know that during the filming he had prosthetics installed every morning so he couldn't see during the shooting? He mentioned the only problem would be when the set would break for lunch and everyone would leave him there forgetting he couldn't see anything! Amazing.

RGA
03-06-2005, 11:36 PM
Worst Films -- well here are a few of the worst films I've seen

Black Sheep
Oasis of the Zombies
Crash
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
Airheads
The Patriot
Suspect Zero
Speed 2: Cruise Control
Friday the 13th Part 2,3,4,5,6,7
Halloween parts 2 and 6

Not many off the top of my head -- hmm my list is on my other computer.

risabet
03-06-2005, 11:42 PM
So many bad movies, here's some.

House of 1000 Corpses, the only thing scary about this movie is how bad it is. scary bad!
Ghost of Mars, possibly the worst movie ever made, our new reference for bad.
Troy, the worst casting ever, EVER!

20to20K
03-07-2005, 12:58 PM
Catwoman


(WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...reaches for his hair to pull it out....and realizes he has none...)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA(been running for hours to try and escape the horror of that movie and still can shake it)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA(goes and takes a shower and that does the job)AAAAHH!!!!!!

Apparently she actually attended and walked up on stage and accepted here Razzie for worst actress. She even cracked a few jokes about actually READING the script for the next movie she agrees to do. I'm not sure anyone actually accepted their award in person before...they were probably shocked when she walked up on stage!

Anybody remember that SNL skit where they make a movie about escaping from a double feature of bad movies? It was called:

"Escape from 'Escape from New York' " and "Escape from 'New York, New York' "

Pretty funny....

chimera128
03-07-2005, 06:31 PM
We can agree to disagree about Ray lol.. apparently I am in the minority about the way i feel about his performance. I do have to agree with you about the Grudge.. the only scary thing about it was my fear i would turn it in late and accrue a late charge.

RGA
03-07-2005, 07:33 PM
Ebert chose Cheadle as best actor - so did Roeper I believe?? So you may not be alone. I have not seen Hotel Rwanda yet as i'm in my practicum and time is tight.

The Razzies are fun and many actors do accept their awards...Sly Stallone I believe has collected all five of his Razzies and he may be the leader.

The Razzies are in good fun -- the posted their list in 1993 for the 10 worst films of the year and they put Schindler's List on it. They said something along the lines that Schindler's List was on every other list of best films and that no one would have this on their worst list so there you go.

Halle is a terriific actress which goes to show that screenplay is critical.

Shwamdoo
03-07-2005, 07:36 PM
The worst movie of all time, without a single doubt, is Omega Code.

I highly recomend buying it. You'll crack up trying to watch it.

Worf101
03-08-2005, 11:56 AM
I think there should be a thread for WORST films. I just recently saw the grudge after my sister and several other people recommended watching it. They said it was a very scary movie, ie one said a lady in the theatre screamed outloud, so I was looking forward to it. Also there was a lot of hype about Jamie Foxx's performance (he won the Oscar so I may be wrong about that) but I wasn't really impressed by it. I thought he sounded more like Mike Tyson trying to do a Ray Charles impression.

What are the recent movies that you guys have watched, solely based on someone else's recommendation, that disappointed you?
Smokey used to do one of these about every 6 months on the "old board". I won't give you my "worst of all times" but here's some of my recent I hate you's worse than deaths...

1. "Catwoman" - The most uninteligible, excremental movie ever made. May single handedly end the recent superhero trend.

2. "The Grudge" - Proof positive that you can't raid every Japanese film and find gold.

3. "Gods and Generals" - Re-written history aside.. the worst 3 hours spent of my entire life.

4. "White Chicks" - After all the beat down at the Oscars I had to rent it. I'm now almost legally blind. Two guys in drag that look like Michael Jacksons long lost twin sisters.

5. "The Core" - So bad you almost want the world to end...

6. "Aliens Versus Predator" - A double header, how to kill two dying franchises at once.

7. "Terminator 3" - Another done franchise finally bites the dust.

That's just off the top of my head....

Da Worfster :(

Sir Terrence the Terrible
03-10-2005, 09:29 AM
5. "The Core" - So bad you almost want the world to end...

Ahhhh!!, aside for some periods of overacting, I liked this movie.


7. "Terminator 3" - Another done franchise finally bites the dust.

I liked this one too! I think you need to stop drinking hate-o-rade before watching these movies(snicker snicker)

Another movie I wanna add to the list(with a caveat)is "Day of Destuction". I bought this movie on a whim while on my daily trip to BB. Aside from the really bad acting, mediocre to bad CGI, serviceable sound(good bass though), bad script, and ripped off parts of Twister and The Day After Tomorrow, this movie held my attention for about two hours. When I kept my mind on the fact that this was a made for TV movie released on DVD, it wasn't totally bad. Had this movie been released in theaters, it would have bombed with the force of a nuclear weapon.

BRANDONH
03-10-2005, 10:01 AM
The Beast of Yucca Flats (good for science fiction theater)
Reefer Madness (unless your high)

eisforelectronic
03-11-2005, 04:46 AM
Isn't Halle Berry doing "Catwoman 2"?

Worf101
03-11-2005, 07:13 AM
Isn't Halle Berry doing "Catwoman 2"?
That ain't even funny.....

Da Worfster :mad:

Kam
03-11-2005, 12:57 PM
hey worfster, split with you on these two.. T3 i couldn't stand. was ridiculous how they trashed the franchise. am sure cameron would be turning in his grave on seeing this one if he was dead. (I think Sir TTT was blinded by the rather well done effects and soundtrack, he's usually good with movie picks! haha, j/k tt :) )
but the core i enjoyed, gotta agree with Sir TTT on this one, maybe because it was in the so-bad-its-good category or am riding a hilary swank high, or because i just caught it on cable with very low expectations... but whatever the reason, i thought it a good bit of fun.
STILL haven't checked out so many movies, looks like it might be dvd's for a buch. and have been dying to see House of Flying Daggers which comes out next tues i think? will post a review when i do get to see it!

peace
k2

RGA
03-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah T3 isn;t going in the collection -- I'm kinda pretending it was never made.

I wish they would just quite while they are ahead.

Star Wars - was very good
Empire was fantastic
Return was ok but had a big fall (So take the hint)
Phantom Menace - one of the biggest piece of dung to come out in years ---
never saw the next one.

Prequels are kinda stupid in general as well --- I don't recall seeing a prequal and liking it?? Can;t wait for Enterprise to end -- I hope the finally is having the ship and crew totally destroyed.

tillerman
03-12-2005, 06:36 AM
"What About Bob", the lowpoint of Richard Dreyfus and Bill Murrays' careers. 90(?) minutes of
screeching chalk on a blackboard! "Ishtar" comes to mind, but I've never been brave enuf to rent it. I thought the "Matrix" really sucked(visual effects great, but plot & characters so bad I didn'care whether anyone lived or died) but I'm getting to be an old fart. Just about any episode of "LOST" deserves an Acadamy Award more than whats out on the big screen!
Crap!! It's starting to snow AGAIN!!

Sir Terrence the Terrible
03-12-2005, 12:38 PM
That ain't even funny.....

Da Worfster :mad:

hehehehehehehehehe.....okay, i'll stop laughing.....hehehehehehehehehe..snicker snicker....... You never know, she may actually act in the next one!

Sir Terrence the Terrible
03-12-2005, 12:44 PM
hey worfster, split with you on these two.. T3 i couldn't stand. was ridiculous how they trashed the franchise. am sure cameron would be turning in his grave on seeing this one if he was dead. (I think Sir TTT was blinded by the rather well done effects and soundtrack, he's usually good with movie picks! haha, j/k tt :) )

Okay, I'll admit it, I did like the effects and soundtrack. Give me a break though, I am trying to show SOME support for our governor(who I'd like to terminate right about now)the best way I know how.



but the core i enjoyed, gotta agree with Sir TTT on this one, maybe because it was in the so-bad-its-good category or am riding a hilary swank high, or because i just caught it on cable with very low expectations... but whatever the reason, i thought it a good bit of fun.
STILL haven't checked out so many movies, looks like it might be dvd's for a buch. and have been dying to see House of Flying Daggers which comes out next tues i think? will post a review when i do get to see it!

peace
k2

The Core also had a VERY good soundtrack, but I really like the movies concept even if this incarnation was a little short on acting skills.

eisforelectronic
03-13-2005, 02:01 PM
Metalstorm, Jaws 3-D, Spacehunter (also in 3-D),

Worf101
03-14-2005, 10:58 AM
hey worfster, split with you on these two.. T3 i couldn't stand. was ridiculous how they trashed the franchise. am sure cameron would be turning in his grave on seeing this one if he was dead. (I think Sir TTT was blinded by the rather well done effects and soundtrack, he's usually good with movie picks! haha, j/k tt :) )
but the core i enjoyed, gotta agree with Sir TTT on this one, maybe because it was in the so-bad-its-good category or am riding a hilary swank high, or because i just caught it on cable with very low expectations... but whatever the reason, i thought it a good bit of fun.
STILL haven't checked out so many movies, looks like it might be dvd's for a buch. and have been dying to see House of Flying Daggers which comes out next tues i think? will post a review when i do get to see it!

peace
k2

If you went into "The Core" with lower than low expectations I guess you stomach it. But the cliches in this one were the size of Mastadons. Is there anyone in this whole cockeyed world that didn't know that the 'hero" was gonna wind up with the girl and that everyone else was going to die a noble heroic death.? Geeze "Journey to the Center of the Earth" was more believable than this pap.... but hey... that's why they have horse races.

Da Worfster :cool:

Worf101
03-14-2005, 11:03 AM
hehehehehehehehehe.....okay, i'll stop laughing.....hehehehehehehehehe..snicker snicker....... You never know, she may actually act in the next one!

If you weren't a Knight Errant, Moderator and overall Laird of the Manor.... I could take quite a dislikings to you... :mad: As it is, since I do NOT want to be banished from the realm... I'll put up with the less than Christian tenet of both posts. How could you even form the words "Catwoman 2" in your mind without your tongue catching fire?

Da Worfster :mad:

Worf101
03-14-2005, 11:05 AM
"What About Bob", the lowpoint of Richard Dreyfus and Bill Murrays' careers. 90(?) minutes of
screeching chalk on a blackboard! "Ishtar" comes to mind, but I've never been brave enuf to rent it. I thought the "Matrix" really sucked(visual effects great, but plot & characters so bad I didn'care whether anyone lived or died) but I'm getting to be an old fart. Just about any episode of "LOST" deserves an Acadamy Award more than whats out on the big screen!
Crap!! It's starting to snow AGAIN!!

My son and his mum thought WAB was hilarious. But she works with the mentally ill for a living so maybe it was an inside thang.

Da Worfster :confused:

topspeed
03-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Metalstorm, Jaws 3-D, Spacehunter (also in 3-D),
Aww c'mon man, Spacehunter was so bad it was good! This movie is like, so totally '80's that it just brings back good memories. Hell, it even had Molly Ringwald in it! This thing came out when there was this whole fantasy, wasteland-after-the-apocalypse vibe going on during the peak of the Cold War. Consequently, a whole slew of "bad movies" came out.

To wit:
Sorceress: where there was, surprise (!), no actual sorceress in the movie!

Krull: witness an incredibly effeminate pretty boy b!tchslap evil with his trusty boomerang

Buckeroo Banzia: OK, I admit it, I liked this one. Shoot me.

Red Sonja: Mrs Sylvester Stallone (at the time) and current drunken squeeze of "Flay-Flay". 'nuff said.

Some movie based on druids. Yes, they actually made a movie based on a group of people that worshipped trees. I walked out. The name of said movie has been permanently cleansed from my memory.

Thank God.

Kam
03-14-2005, 02:17 PM
My son and his mum thought WAB was hilarious. But she works with the mentally ill for a living so maybe it was an inside thang.

Da Worfster :confused:

I really enjoyed this movie. might be in the minority, but it definitely got me laughing. thought dreyfuss and murray were both really good in it, dreyfuss a tad over the top, but still fun. not quite as good as The Man Who Knew Too Little, but a very enjoyable murray movie.
baby steps... baby steps...

eisforelectronic
03-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Buckeroo Banzia: OK, I admit it, I liked this one. Shoot me.


Buckaroo Banzai has at least some cult status with me.
"No matter where you go, there you are"

Worf101
03-15-2005, 11:29 AM
These are so vile, so low, so excreable as to defy imagination...

"Soul Plane" - Good God man have you no shame? This movie could set back race relations 20 years.

"Pootie Tang" - Good God man have you no shame? This movie DID set back race relations 20 years.

Wow... so bad I almost threw up. Have never been able to finish either. Now the subject matter in both could've been handled and made funny like in "Undercover Brother" which I was was smart and funny. But these two, good Lord how low can you go to be in a movie. Doing Porn is almost more respectable that this crap.

Da Worfster :o

LEAFS264
03-15-2005, 03:51 PM
I think all you guys forgot about the WORST MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FARGO


Jay.

eisforelectronic
03-15-2005, 05:34 PM
I think all you guys forgot about the WORST MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FARGO


Jay.

I gotta admit I really disliked that movie a lot, although I probably wouldn't have put it on my worst movies list.

RGA
03-15-2005, 10:32 PM
Fargo -- Worst Movie? Give your head a shake. It got better on subsequent viewing - it's a small classic. I'd have it ahead of the LOTR trilogy

Feanor
03-16-2005, 03:54 AM
Is that you actually when to these flicks in the first place. I had a premonition in each case.




Smokey used to do one of these about every 6 months on the "old board". I won't give you my "worst of all times" but here's some of my recent I hate you's worse than deaths...

1. "Catwoman" - The most uninteligible, excremental movie ever made. May single handedly end the recent superhero trend.

2. "The Grudge" - Proof positive that you can't raid every Japanese film and find gold.

3. "Gods and Generals" - Re-written history aside.. the worst 3 hours spent of my entire life.

4. "White Chicks" - After all the beat down at the Oscars I had to rent it. I'm now almost legally blind. Two guys in drag that look like Michael Jacksons long lost twin sisters.

5. "The Core" - So bad you almost want the world to end...

6. "Aliens Versus Predator" - A double header, how to kill two dying franchises at once.

7. "Terminator 3" - Another done franchise finally bites the dust.

That's just off the top of my head....

Da Worfster :(

MomurdA
03-16-2005, 12:56 PM
Cant think of my all time list, but here are some recent ones.

The Village. Horrible, i predicted the entire movie after watching the first 2 minutes. Just horrible.
South of Heaven, West of Hell. Possibly the worst western ever made. Couldnt even finish it.
Anaconda. Havent they made like 5 of these in the last 2 years?
DeathWish IV. Standard 80's war on drugs propaganda movie.
Catwoman (Havent seen it, but Im surse it belongs here)

Episode 3 had better not be on my lists in 8 weeks.

Sir Terrence the Terrible
03-16-2005, 02:39 PM
If you weren't a Knight Errant, Moderator and overall Laird of the Manor.... I could take quite a dislikings to you... :mad: As it is, since I do NOT want to be banished from the realm... I'll put up with the less than Christian tenet of both posts. How could you even form the words "Catwoman 2" in your mind without your tongue catching fire?

Da Worfster :mad:

I said Catwoman and my tougue caught on fire, I am not even going to try and say Catwoman 2 for fear my whole face will catch on fire.

Now Worfster, how could you dislike the most loveable rican this side of the Mississippi?
You see, I grew up in Manhattan which makes me very used to non sugar coated, very direct opinions. Living here in California, I am suffering from diabetes from all of the sugar coated crap I have to hear. Your posts give me my daily diet of straightoutness that I really appreciate. If you actually spoke what you post, I could just see the facial expressions and body langauge that went with it.

Woochifer
03-16-2005, 05:59 PM
Good news for fans of "worst" movies -- Leonard Part 6 is coming to DVD! This movie is an absolute disaster. Sad thing is that Bill Cosby made this flick while he was king of prime time in the 80s with The Cosby Show! Those of you who nominated other movies on your worst list should withhold judgment until you get a load of THIS crap!

Some pretty funny predictions about what the upcoming DVD release means in the cosmic scheme of things.

http://www.dvd-dweeb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=dvd_future;action=display;num=11084 91680

Other movies that been on my personal sh*tlist for a while are listed below:

Naked - this is probably the most pointless and overrated bullsh*t movie I've ever seen. Director Mike Leigh BRAGGED that he filmed without a finished script, yet if this approach is used with a Hollywood production, the critics get ready to skewer the final product before it even screens. Believe me, it very much showed that the movie was done without a script, and that's not something worth bragging about. But, because it's a British flick, the critics and pompous art house mavens fawn all over themselves to praise that approach as something innovative, or actor friendly, or spontaneous. Actually, I just prefer to view it as disorganized, pointless, pretentious, and idiotic.

Terms of Endearment - maybe I'm just not in touch with my feminine side, but this was one of the most reprehensibly manipulative tearjerking pieces of melodramatic excrement that I've ever seen. Other films have been more shameless about those aspirations, but how his film made it all the way to Best Picture is all the proof you need of rampant abuse of psychoactive prescriptions in Hollywood. It's on my worst list because it beat out The Right Stuff, which was a far superior movie in every facet. The Right Stuff has rightfully gone on to make various lists of the best movies from that decade, while Terms of Endearment has largely been forgotten (and I hope deep sixed, so that no self-respecting members of the male persuasion have to endure this torture test).

The Buddy System - Love Richard Dreyfus and Susan Sarandon. Hated this movie.

Battlefield Earth - admittedly all too easy a target. Now, we know that this is John Travolta's ode to all things L.Ron Hubbard, but you would think that someone who actually likes the guy would want to make a decent movie, right? Is this movie bad? Yes. Is it as bad as everybody says it is? Oh yes, after watching this I would think that Travolta got excommunicated from the Scientology circle and needed to get back at them!

Now, I haven't seen Catwoman and experienced all of those bizarre otherworldly phenomena that Terrence and Worf talked about (mouth catching on fire, that's pretty kewl). But, I gotta tell 'ya, after watching Battlefield Earth, I suddenly felt this urge to go out and purchase 100 copies of Dianetics, fly out to Broadway and watch a Bernadette Peters production, listen to Chick Corea and Al Jarreau's albums backwards, and replay Tom Cruise's dance in his tighty whities from Risky Business over and over. I mean, this is just normal response to a bad movie, and not all this other paranoid conspiracy stuff about subminimal Scientology messages, right?

Woochifer
03-16-2005, 06:18 PM
Buckeroo Banzia: OK, I admit it, I liked this one. Shoot me

Buckeroo Banzai was actually one of the first movies that flopped big time at the box office, but went on to become a huge hit on home video. This is one of the more prominent cult movies out there, and a long-time staple on the "midnight movie" circuit at revival houses. Any movie with Peter Weller as a brain surgeon/rock musician/intergalactic adventurer/rescuer of the universe and John Lithgow as an evil space alien has got to have some redeeming value to it. The DVD release on this movie is genius, with the supplemental feature done as if the movie was a documentary rather than a fictional work.

Kam
03-17-2005, 06:47 AM
Buckeroo Banzai was actually one of the first movies that flopped big time at the box office, but went on to become a huge hit on home video. This is one of the more prominent cult movies out there, and a long-time staple on the "midnight movie" circuit at revival houses. Any movie with Peter Weller as a brain surgeon/rock musician/intergalactic adventurer/rescuer of the universe and John Lithgow as an evil space alien has got to have some redeeming value to it. The DVD release on this movie is genius, with the supplemental feature done as if the movie was a documentary rather than a fictional work.


Don't forget, Buckeroo was also a samurai.

And here's a long awaited sequel i'm surprised hollywood hasn't made along with History of the World Part 2. I wanna see Buckeroo take on the World Crime League! hmmm... maybe i have my next movie idea....

peace
k2

topspeed
03-17-2005, 11:09 AM
And here's a long awaited sequel i'm surprised hollywood hasn't made along with History of the World Part 2. I wanna see Buckeroo take on the World Crime League! hmmm... maybe i have my next movie idea....
peace
k2
Roman Orgy Tonite: First served, first come

I'm waiting for that one too.

eisforelectronic
03-18-2005, 03:54 AM
Don't forget, Buckeroo was also a samurai.

And here's a long awaited sequel i'm surprised hollywood hasn't made along with History of the World Part 2. I wanna see Buckeroo take on the World Crime League! hmmm... maybe i have my next movie idea....

peace
k2
I remember waiting for that to come out for sooo long before I realized Buckaroo was a bad movie and there wouldn't be a sequel.

Woochifer
03-18-2005, 03:39 PM
Don't forget, Buckeroo was also a samurai.

And here's a long awaited sequel i'm surprised hollywood hasn't made along with History of the World Part 2. I wanna see Buckeroo take on the World Crime League! hmmm... maybe i have my next movie idea....

peace
k2

Sheez, how could I forget that! Amazing how much a true renaissance man can make perfection seem so easy.

I remember that Buckaroo Banzai was made with the goal of creating a franchise, but the movie flopped worse at the box office than anyone had predicted. By the time the movie became a hit on home video and cable, the stars of the movie had already gone onto bigger and better things (Peter Weller made Robocop a couple of years later, while John Lithgow, Ellen Barkin, and Jeff Goldblum all graduated to bigger projects), which would make the cost of a sequel more expensive than it's worth.

Well, one movie I WON'T be waiting for is Leonard, Part 7 or parts 1 through 5 for that matter!

skypilot
04-06-2005, 05:47 PM
My pick..."Howard the Duck"..period...they should of shot this character with a 12 guage shotgun and saved patrons their $6.00.

20to20K
04-07-2005, 07:31 AM
Can't believe all the hate for Fargo...one of my all-time favs. Buscemi is da' man and McDormand continues to show she can do any character you throw at her. Everything Macy does is speacial. I'm a big Coen brothers fan and I know a lot of people (mostly John Q. Popcorn movie fans) can't get into their bizarre movies...but I love them. Miller's Crossing is another of my fav.

Now onto flicks that REALLY do suck!

Someone mentioned Leonard part 6...yes a stinker, but Cosby actually had two stinkers in the same year with the equally bad "Ghost Dad". Yes "Soul Plane" was so bad it made me cringe...but c'mon...Snoop Dog? Tom Arnold? You couldn't have been expecting Igmar Bergman from this cast!

What really annoys me is when a film gets tons of accolades from critics, you go to see it and you have to be woken up three times before the credits roll. Can you say "The English Patient"? Or an action movie with no action. Can you say "The Incredible Hulk"?.
Or a character based drama where you don't care about any of the characters...can you say "The Big Chill"? Not a big fan of the generic cookie cutter good against evil extravganzas like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings either.

I thought 3 of the 5 Oscar nominees for best picture this year where all overrated. Sideways, Ray, and Aviator were all DECENT movies...but none of them great.
I thought Million Dollar baby was excellent and I didn't see Neverland, but I thought Hotel Rowanda or The Passion were easily better than the other three.

RGA
04-07-2005, 07:24 PM
20-20

Agreed Fargo perhaps was overrated but it wasn't bad -- but it is back comedy which not everyone is going to like -- there are different shades of back comedy too of course alla Pulp Fiction which many hated. I thought it was the best film of 1994.

I actually very much liked the English patient which did a supurb job of sidestepping the novel and taking it from a different angle. It was a mix of Casablanca and Lawrence of Arabia. I watched it three times in the theaters. But yes most people I know had the fall asleep reaction. :D

Here are my worst movies getting *1/2 / ***** or less

Children Of The Corn
Jaws 3
Lock Up
Milk Money
Prophecy, The
Return Of The Living Dead Part II
Two Jakes, The
Vegas Vacation
Young Guns II
Zero Tolerance
Beavis And Butt-Head Do America
Golden Child, The
Last Starfighter, The
Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves
Sniper
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Toy, The
Under Suspicion
Bachelor Party
Blue Velvet
Cadillac Man
Good Son, The
Howling V-The Rebirth
Striking Distance
Alien 3
Batman Returns
Friday The 13th, Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan
Man's Best Friend
Meatballs
Multiplicity
Scanners 3: The Takeover
Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes
Creepers
Medicine Man
Outsiders, The
Earthquake
Good Mother, The
Stealing Home
Tango And Cash
Bad Boys
Diabolique
Langoliers, The
Out To Sea
Beverly Hills Cop II
Candyman
Larger Than Life
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Crocodile Dundee II
Eye For An Eye, An
Mars Attacks!
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1
Predator 2
Bad Moon
Bordello of Blood
Cowboy Way, The
Day After, The
Excalibur
Great Expectations (1998)
John Carpenter's Vampires
Leviathan
Major League II
Santa Clause, The
Scanner Cop
Avengers, The
Best Defense
Independence Day
Patriot, The (2000(
Armed And Dangerous
Batman & Robin
Friday The 13th, Part VII: The New Blood
Halloween III: Season Of The Witch
Jackal, The (1997)
Volcano
Before And After
By Dawn's Early Light
Night Of The Living Dead (1990)
Trigger Effect, The
Loose Cannons
Dune
Friday The 13th
Halloween V: The Revenge Of Michael Myers
Jurassic Park III
Quick And The Dead
Robocop 2
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
Blob, The (1958)
Punisher, The
Rocky V
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Chopping Mall
Entity, The
Maximum Overdrive
Poltergeist II: The Other Side
Cannonball Run II
Juror, The
Pelican Brief, The
Scorpion King, The
Supergirl
Traces Of Red
Beastmaster, The
Nightmare On Elm Street 2, A: Freddy's Revenge
Peacemaker, The
Anaconda
Chain Reaction
Evil Dead, The
Final Conflict, The
Halloween IV: The Return Of Michael Myers
Raising Cain
Scanners 2: The New Order
Canadian Bacon
Ghost And The Darkness, The
Sphere
Bad Company
Daylight
F/X 2: The Deadly Art Of Illusion
Robocop 3
Striptease
Thinner
Boxing Helena
Deepstar Six
Pet Sematary
Substitute, The
Crow: City Of Angels, The
Crush, The
Hard Rain
Lifepod
Cannibal Woman In The Avocado Jungle Of Death
Exorcist II: The Heretic
Haunted Honeymoon
Surviving The Game
Terror In The Aisles
Brain, The
Escape From L.A.
Friday The 13th, Part VI: Jason Lives
Death Wish II
Fire Down Below
High School High
Bees, The
Friday The 13th-The Final Chapter
Police Academy II: Their First Assignment
Problem Child
Firewalker
Hell Night
Wes Craven's Wishmaster
Baby--Secret Of The Lost Legend
Bad Girls
Congo
Hellmaster
Police Academy 4: Citizens On Patrol
Speed 2: Cruise Control
Swarm, The
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
Friday The 13th, Part V-A New Beginning
Lightning Jack
Stay Tuned
Airheads
Crash
Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers
Jaws: The Revenge
On Deadly Ground
Barb Wire
Friday The 13th, Part II
Friday The 13th, Part III
Ghost In The Machine
Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday
Showgirls
Flesh Gordon
Oasis Of The Zombies
Black Sheep


And some of you wonder why I am in a bad mood -- a lot of hours I'll never get back have been deleted from my life -- and what's worse -- some of them I watched a second time to try and be fair.

paul_pci
04-07-2005, 09:22 PM
RGA, how dare you include Armed and Dangerous on your list. That was John Candy, Eugene Levy, and Meg Ryan at their best. Not only that, but since the 80s was without a doubt the most absolute best decade this planet been through (aside from deteriorating the ozone from all the hairspray), I demand that all 80s films be exempt from your otherwise insightful list.

RGA
04-07-2005, 10:55 PM
"That was John Candy, Eugene Levy, and Meg Ryan at their best"

Umm yeah LOL hell I don't even remember Meg Ryan and she's hard to forget.

I liked Splash better -- it had the first two...and if it's any consolation Planes, Trains, and Automobiles I would have as one of the best films of the 1980s.

I have nto updated my list for a few years and some of thsoe in the first half I might bump to **

There are a number of others I should add -- Suspect Zero with the very good Ben Kingsley was dreadful.

Worf101
04-08-2005, 07:09 AM
20-20

Agreed Fargo perhaps was overrated but it wasn't bad -- but it is back comedy which not everyone is going to like -- there are different shades of back comedy too of course alla Pulp Fiction which many hated. I thought it was the best film of 1994.

It's "BLACK" comedy not "BACK"... Come ere ya cretin... 3 knuckle raps wit da ruler!

Da Worfster
:D

Worf101
04-08-2005, 07:18 AM
Sniper

Blue Velvet

Outsiders, The

Candyman

Bram Stoker's Dracula

Excalibur

Independence Day

Blob, The (1958)

Evil Dead, The

Pet Sematary
.

Ahem the above were/are NOT bad movies. Don't know what crack you're smokin' but these movies were a lot of "fun"!!! Remember the word?? Fun, eat popcorn, watch movie, jump or scream or laugh?

Da Worfster :cool:

RGA
04-08-2005, 06:28 PM
No Dr. Who is fun -- those movies were boring dregs. The Evil Dead is downright mean spirited bad taste and Keanu Reeves well that's always tough to defend whatever he's in - Excalibur was excrutiating to sit through - Candyman has zero originality or scares and Independance Day was probably the best waste of good effects during the decade - though I did like Brent Spiner's cameo.

Sniper and Pet Semetary -- man how could they ruin Stephen King's book so badly -- actually another film not there but should be is Thinner. Uggh.

cam
04-08-2005, 06:49 PM
I'm a little late to the party but I will mention 2 movies I paid full price at the theater and when it was over I swear I was going to throw that projector guy down from the top floor. "The Avengers" (i'm still pissed) and "Lara Croft The Cradle Of Life" which was part 2. Part 1 was entertaining but the second, P-lease, the only good thing about the second one was that Angelina Jolie is eye candy, that's it.

RGA
04-08-2005, 11:04 PM
I loved the tv show of the Avengers -- then when I heard the cast I was SOOO excited -- That was a film I was really waiting for Ralph Fiennes, Uma Thurman and Sean Connery...three people who usually to that point anyway picked good films -- Fiennes was recently off of two oscar nominations..

Then I heard Americans were making it and my heart began to sink -- then I heard one writer left and there were a team of writers -- I began to lose faith. Then I heard they were re-shooting 40 minutes of the film to save it --- OH NO!! then the Stars didn;t go to the screening nor did they release it to film critics.

You know how excited I was because in spite of all that I still paisd full price grasping at straws.

The sad thing is what really killed this was and no offense -- The Brits should have made that film not the Americans. The accountants got involved.

The Avengers had the chance to be better than any James Bond film because you have not one but TWO secret agents who play off each other in a sly sexual tension way -- but without the follow through -- that's the point -- not to have them marry at the end.

Uma was not in the suit enough and that whole plot line was dreadful -- as were the bear suits. What was that. You can't just have weird bad guys and weird sets -- The Avengrs was always a show where things were not quite what they seemed -- mysterious sexy sly smart and witty -- the film had exactly none of that.

And it goes to show that no matter how great the acting talent --- nothing can save a bad script. Conversely a great script can save terrible actors like Keanu Reeves. Imagine what The Matrix could have been with a decent actor or the Devil's Advocate.

Woochifer
04-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Can't believe all the hate for Fargo...one of my all-time favs. Buscemi is da' man and McDormand continues to show she can do any character you throw at her. Everything Macy does is speacial. I'm a big Coen brothers fan and I know a lot of people (mostly John Q. Popcorn movie fans) can't get into their bizarre movies...but I love them. Miller's Crossing is another of my fav.

Surprising to me as well given that almost every film buff I know loved that movie. I liked it on first viewing, but grew to appreciate it a lot more after I roomed with a guy from Minnesota whose brother went to high school with one of the Coens. A lot of the jokes in Fargo are the inside variety, and my roommate pointed a lot of these quirks out. I "got" more of the movie later on when I visited the Twin Cities a few years ago and experienced all that "Minnesota nice" for myself. As an outsider, I appreciate the quirkiness of Fargo, but for native of that region, these references and characters are true to life. Sort of like how I view L.A.-centric movies like Swingers and Pulp Fiction from the vantage point of someone who was born and raised there. You have to have spent some time in SoCal to fully understand how effectively the filmmakers captured L.A. in those movies.


Someone mentioned Leonard part 6...yes a stinker, but Cosby actually had two stinkers in the same year with the equally bad "Ghost Dad". Yes "Soul Plane" was so bad it made me cringe...but c'mon...Snoop Dog? Tom Arnold? You couldn't have been expecting Igmar Bergman from this cast!

You're right in that Ghost Dad was bad, but I don't think it flamed out nearly as spectacularly as Leonard, Part 6. The former just had a bad plot with lame jokes, but the latter was mixed in with even worse special effects and very little of it made any logical sense. BTW, this classic of schlock comes to DVD on Tuesday!


What really annoys me is when a film gets tons of accolades from critics, you go to see it and you have to be woken up three times before the credits roll. Can you say "The English Patient"? Or an action movie with no action. Can you say "The Incredible Hulk"?.

I put the Merchant-Ivory flicks at the top of that boring critical favorites category. The stuff of theirs that I've seen is slow as molasses, and booooooooooorrrrrrrinnnnnggg. Can you say "GET TO THE FRIGGIN' POINT ALREADY!" Kinda like when I saw Terms of Endearment at the theater and was tempted to scream at the Debra Winger character, "GOOD GAWD, HURRY UP AND DIE WILL 'YA!"

20to20K
04-09-2005, 08:18 PM
I once saw an interview with William H. Macy talking about Fargo and he is explaining how he got into a "discussion" with Joel Cohen because of one of those inside jokes you referred to. At the beginning of the movie a statement appears saying "The following is based on a true story...we have taken great measure to tell this story exactly as it occurred." (or words to that effect).

The fact was that the movie was completely fictional...the Cohen brothers felt it was O.K. to put that disclaimer at the beginning of the movie...BECAUSE IT'S FICTION! I can say whatever I want! This infuriated Macy in a comical kind of way. "You lying to everyone!"
he would tell the Cohens! The Cohens would reply "It's fiction...the whole thing's a lie anyway so what's the difference!?!" That's pretty solid logic...and pretty funny as well!

Speaking of bizzare movies....what did everyone think of Mullholland Drive? I think Lynch makes the Cohen brothers look like John Ford. I loved M.D. though. I enjoy talking about what you think is going on both before and after the blue key opens the box...

RGA
04-09-2005, 08:29 PM
well Terms of Endearment was overrated IMO as well - The English Patient is a romance. i remember when the film was out Fiennes was called an intelligent woman's romantic lead -- which in ollywood is virtyually non-existant -- Fiennes himself ended up taking the Maid in Manhatten Lopez vehicle so he could have enough money for a project he wanted to do with Cronenberg...Maid in Manhatten fell flat on him because he had no character to portray so he basically stood around grinning luike an idiot --- A role Keanu would have been better for one suspects.

Some films require some patience people -- One of the best films of the 1990s was Remains of the Day and in my view the best performance Hopkins gave that decade -- yes including his Silence of the Lambs perfomance - which was just over the top sillyness (still a good film). Remains has been the best Ivory film I've seen and has a good perfomance from the late Christopher Reeves -- there is a fair amount going on with thankkfully it not bashed over your head in direct explanation -- it's nice to see a few filmmakers who give their audience credit for having some kind of brain.

See the trailer and rent it http://videodetective.com/home.asp?PublishedID=1818

I have wondered that attention spans or time has been racing so much the last several years --- moving from Vancouver and it's go go go style to the Island which has slowed the pace may factor into people's viewing habits as well.

Defshep
04-12-2005, 01:40 PM
Just about anything that has a "part 3" on the end of it. Oh, and "Cheerleader Ninjas". I thought it would have a Troma-type sense of humor. I was wrong! I love bad movies, but there is a limit. There is a fine line between making camp and making crap for crap's sake. 1980's "Flash Gordon" was horrible. But I'll watch it any time it's on! I wish there was a decent DVD version of it.

Florian
04-18-2005, 01:49 AM
The absolut worst movie i have ever seen in my entire life is .............."Battlefield Earth"..... that movie just sucks. No compromise, no maybe,....the movie is just horrible.
John travolta, how could you !!!

-Flo