Lets see pictures of your Deck

Any body want to be first? Lets see pictures of your TT!

My TT is in the garage covered in 1/4" of dust.

thats ok...just go out and snap one with your cell and post it here. It cant be any worse that some of the stuff I've seen at Audiokarma or Vinylengine....what kind is it?

I was looking for pics of the deck in my yard...until I read the post.

Isn't a Deck for Tapes and Table for Turntable? Never heard a TT called a Deck.

Ok I'll play:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/...408567fb_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...45032370_b.jpg

all DIY, based on a Lenco L75, with little of it remaining :D

new photo's coming soon, I no longer have the SME arm, now replaced by my Rega RB301, with modded wiring.

Also: I am planning to rebuild the tt, slightly different design, some new ideas too...

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

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I was looking for pics of the deck in my yard...until I read the post.

Isn't a Deck for Tapes and Table for Turntable? Never heard a TT called a Deck.

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Your like me...you must be around the 50 year old mark or just under or over. I never heard that either until I heard PoppaC call it that.

And when did records and albums and 45's become vinyl? When I was a kid it was albums, records, 45's and turntables...must be getting old.

So you got a picture of your deck..ahh i mean turntable?

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Originally Posted by frenchmon

Your like me...you must be around the 50 year old mark or just under. I never heard that either until I heard PoppaC call it that.

And when did records and albums and 45's become vinyl? When I was a kid it was albums, records, 45's and turntables...must be getting old.

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LOL, I'll be 50 in december...good call

I do still have a nice Onkyo Cassette Deck

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Ok I'll play:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/...408567fb_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...45032370_b.jpg

all DIY, based on a Lenco L75, with little of it remaining :D

new photo's coming soon, I no longer have the SME arm, now replaced by my Rega RB301, with modded wiring.

Also: I am planning to rebuild the tt, slightly different design, some new ideas too...

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

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I now see why you are a happy 20 year old...Is the Rega arm better for this deck ...ahh turnrable than the SME arm?

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thats ok...just go out and snap one with your cell and post it here. It cant be any worse that some of the stuff I've seen at Audiokarma or Vinylengine....what kind is it?

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It's an old asz Technics. Nothing special. I may have to dig it out from under my tape deck.

Hey Frenchie, We want to see your 7.1

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Oh I will...I just want others to go before I do, seeing I started the thread.. We got lots of guys here with turntables (decks for you younger guys) So lets see some of them guys?

Well I have not taken a picture of my specific table but here it is.

Audio Note TT2 dual motor turntable with Arm 3 and IQ3. It's the most expensive piece of gear in my system.

It also came in a natural wood look here http://www.mostlyaudio.com/TT2Review.html

Incidentally, the TT1 is the one motor version and is quite affordable and truly fantastic. It hangs in easily with upper end Linn LP12 and I liked it better than the Clearaudio Emotion and Roksan Radius 5 and the Oracle Delphi all of which cost at least twice as much. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...udiophile4.htm

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Well I have not taken a picture of my specific table but here it is.

Audio Note TT2 dual motor turntable with Arm 3 and IQ3. It's the most expensive piece of gear in my system.

It also came in a natural wood look here http://www.mostlyaudio.com/TT2Review.html

Incidentally, the TT1 is the one motor version and is quite affordable and truly fantastic. It hangs in easily with upper end Linn LP12 and I liked it better than the Clearaudio Emotion and Roksan Radius 5 and the Oracle Delphi all of which cost at least twice as much. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...udiophile4.htm

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Nice RGA! Dual motors...man thats a feature I have never heard of on a TT. I thought they where just dual pullys. How old is that model? It has that look like the Linns and the sorts. And why would they need to modify the Rega arm? That arm is good the way it is...at least I thought.

From the rubber dot experiment...no mat...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5225/...d49a68b0_z.jpg

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From the rubber dot experiment...no mat...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5225/...d49a68b0_z.jpg

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So how does that work out? Does it sound any better? Kinda reminds me of how MH put the little lifters on the edge of there cork matt. BTW I cant see them.

The dots are the little blurred dashes. This photo was taken in low light, so they moved pretty far during the photo, thus making long streaks. The extra grip they provide seems to translate into a bit of grip on the sound. I think it sort of cleans up lower frequencies a tiny bit. But it also adds a touch of bass, something on which I had mixed emotions.

I did some comparisons both ways, thinking I could leave dots ready to use by simply flipping the platter. But it wasn't that easy in the end. I had to add a 3rd shim with the dots to get the tracking angle the same as it was with the felt mat and 2 shims and thus make for a meaningful comparison.

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The dots are the little blurred dashes. This photo was taken in low light, so they moved pretty far during the photo, thus making long streaks. The extra grip they provide seems to translate into a bit of grip on the sound. I think it sort of cleans up lower frequencies a tiny bit. But it also adds a touch of bass, something on which I had mixed emotions.

I did some comparisons both ways, thinking I could leave dots ready to use by simply flipping the platter. But it wasn't that easy in the end. I had to add a 3rd shim with the dots to get the tracking angle the same as it was with the felt mat and 2 shims and thus make for a meaningful comparison.

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Where you having problems with your mat? I've got that felt mat which I don't like. I thought about making a mat out of an old suede coat I have but I think I will purchase a mat. I've tried it without a mat on the acrylic platter but you have to be very careful taking it off the platter or the album can get scratched if one does not like to turn off the table to turn over the album like me. Any way your I deal sounds like a good one...love to hear the end result of your study.

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Where you having problems with your mat? I've got that felt mat which I don't like. I thought about making a mat out of an old suede coat I have but I think I will purchase a mat. I've tried it without a mat on the acrylic platter but you have to be very careful taking it off the platter or the album can get scratched if one does not like to turn off the table to turn over the album like me. Any way your I deal sounds like a good one...love to hear the end result of your study.

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I made a mat out of padded shelf liner and it's currently on my wife's Debut III. It seems to sound a little cleaner than the felt when used on the steel platter. With the glass platter on my P5, I didn't have any problem with it...just experimenting. I wanted to know how the sound would change with the record practically adhered to the platter. It did change, but it's hard to say if it was truly better. And besides, with the record stuck down it was stopping the platter when I removed the record.

I didn't get too deep into the comparison largely because of the tracking angle issue. But what I heard was somewhat similar to the effect of adding tracking force, at least on the low end. But adding tracking force can compromise the highs; and the rubber dots didn't really do that. The only idea I can come up with on the issue is that during the play of low frequencies there might be a tiny bit of slippage that occurs on the felt mat but not on the rubber dots. In that respect, it sounds like the effect of a clamp or weight...and maybe that's approximately the difference I heard.

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Originally Posted by frenchmon

I now see why you are a happy 20 year old...Is the Rega arm better for this deck ...ahh turnrable than the SME arm?

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yes, you could say that's why I'm a happy 20 year old (well, it's one of the reasons...)

The rega certainly isn't better, but I borrowed the SME (for one and a half year), because the owner (a friend) didn't need it, and he offered it to me. But he had a new turntable project, and thus back it went :frown5:

anyhow, still more than happy, I'm going to attempt building a tonearm myself soon, see what I could do, and build another turntable, to perfect this one. The Jelco arm is used most here, it's the best arm I have, definitely up to level with the SME...

cartridges are a Denon DL103, in a Midas body, and a Denon DL304.

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

Nahhh ... you don't really want to see my deck.

But since you asked: my Technics SL-D2 with Denon DL-110. The pictured Cambridge phono has been replace by a luxurious TCC TC-750. See pics.

I haven't used it in a couple of years at least.

http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/...-analog_1_.jpg

http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/...750sil400.jpeg

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Nahhh ... you don't really want to see my deck.

But since you asked: my Technics SL-D2 with Denon DL-110. The pictured Cambridge phono has been replace by a luxurious TCC TC-750. See pics.

I haven't used it in a couple of years at least.
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Yes we do....not bad. But seeing you dont use it, just pack it up and send it to me...along with all your albums.:3: I can make it rock!

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Yes we do....not bad. But seeing you dont use it, just pack it up and send it to me...along with all your albums.:3: I can make it rock!

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Will you pay the shipping? :D

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Will you pay the shipping? :D

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Lets see...you live in Canada? How many albums we talking....and weight?

I posted new pictures in my gallery but have not been able to download to this thread. I will try again. Of course it has been in other threads.

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Nice RGA! Dual motors...man thats a feature I have never heard of on a TT. I thought they where just dual pullys. How old is that model? It has that look like the Linns and the sorts. And why would they need to modify the Rega arm? That arm is good the way it is...at least I thought.

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Yes it is dual pulley and dual motor - each motor controls each pulley. There is a new AN arm - they have replaced the Rega arm with what some think is a Helious but the entire arm is one piece cast alluminum or something. A lot of buzz on the UK forums about great the new arms are and for very reasonable prices.

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Lets see...you live in Canada? How many albums we talking....and weight?

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Seriously, Frenchmon ... I have about 150 Classical LPs and about 50 old-time folk, folk-rock, and mainstream rock albums. All are in VG - Ex condition. I'm willing to sell them for $2 each provided you buy all of whichever category. The weight of an album is about 0.5 lb. PM or email me if you'd like further details. :22:

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Seriously, Frenchmon ... I have about 150 Classical LPs and about 50 old-time folk, folk-rock, and mainstream rock albums. All are in VG - Ex condition. I'm willing to sell them for $2 each provided you buy all of whichever category. The weight of an album is about 0.5 lb. PM or email me if you'd like further details. :22:

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No Jazz? The cost plus shipping would be to much for me. can you sell them local? That might be the best way to go for you if you are really looking to unload them. I would just get a modern TT and sit back and listen to the cohesiveness of the sound which I cant hear in CD if I where you....but that's a moot point to you seeing you say you suffer from hearing loss. Sorry.

Frenchmon

Now you made me go and look up the new AN tonearms. They seem to be based on the Helius Scorpio III - well a little bit. The entire thing is made from "a single piece of machined aluminium for the one piece arm tube/headshell, which is internally tapered to keep the arm both stiff and light. Another solid block of aluminium is machined to make the bearing housing which contains ‘captured unipivot’ bearings.../... uses the same geometry and fixings as Rega arms, so can be fitted to almost any deck, and thanks to a wonderfully simple and effective collar (pictured below), vta can easily and repeatedly be adjusted in tiny increments (there’s a clear marking for every 0.25mm increment).

What I am reading extremely positive results out of the UK from some reviewers and beta testers who are having difficulty finding faults with them - although it starts £654 for the entry level version and up to £1,265 for the top model. These folks are saying they are very affordable prices for the tech involved. I asked for one for review - but per usual the wait list is ridiculous - several months at the very earliest.

And they also brought out an external motor for the TT2 which controls speed changes. It's a made to order device so it will cost a little too much. Strictly for those with extra cash. They also appear to be bringing out 2-3 more turntables in the between prices from the TT2 to the ridiculous TT3 at ~$100k. They need something to fill the middle price points I am eager to see what they come up with.

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I posted new pictures in my gallery but have not been able to download to this thread. I will try again. Of course it has been in other threads.

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Thanks JM.... BTW...I enjoy your postings...especially those that have to do with turntables...

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Frenchmon

Now you made me go and look up the new AN tonearms. They seem to be based on the Helius Scorpio III - well a little bit. The entire thing is made from "a single piece of machined aluminium for the one piece arm tube/headshell, which is internally tapered to keep the arm both stiff and light. Another solid block of aluminium is machined to make the bearing housing which contains ‘captured unipivot’ bearings.../... uses the same geometry and fixings as Rega arms, so can be fitted to almost any deck, and thanks to a wonderfully simple and effective collar (pictured below), vta can easily and repeatedly be adjusted in tiny increments (there’s a clear marking for every 0.25mm increment).

What I am reading extremely positive results out of the UK from some reviewers and beta testers who are having difficulty finding faults with them - although it starts £654 for the entry level version and up to £1,265 for the top model. These folks are saying they are very affordable prices for the tech involved. I asked for one for review - but per usual the wait list is ridiculous - several months at the very earliest.

And they also brought out an external motor for the TT2 which controls speed changes. It's a made to order device so it will cost a little too much. Strictly for those with extra cash. They also appear to be bringing out 2-3 more turntables in the between prices from the TT2 to the ridiculous TT3 at ~$100k. They need something to fill the middle price points I am eager to see what they come up with.

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Nice looking modified arm there...what advantages of aluminium over carbon fiber...or is it preference?

Arm still looks like its out of the Rega mold....

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No Jazz? The cost plus shipping would be to much for me. can you sell them local? That might be the best way to go for you if you are really looking to unload them. I would just get a modern TT and sit back and listen to the cohesiveness of the sound which I cant hear in CD if I where you....but that's a moot point to you seeing you say you suffer from hearing loss. Sorry.

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Thanks for you sympathy re. my hear. Fortunately it's limited to quite high frequencies, 10 kH and above.

I've never had the problem some people have with CD sound. Nor have I ever enjoyed the rituals around handling LPs; these days I have basically everything on computer and just point and click to listen to what I want. What's more, I'm mainly interested in Classical music and new stuff is pretty much only available on CD or SACD.

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Thanks for you sympathy re. my hear. Fortunately it's limited to quite high frequencies, 10 kH and above.

I've never had the problem some people have with CD sound. Nor have I ever enjoyed the rituals around handling LPs; these days I have basically everything on computer and just point and click to listen to what I want. What's more, I'm mainly interested in Classical music and new stuff is pretty much only available on CD or SACD.

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What speaker do you use?? Normally one needs full range speakers for classical...correct?

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/project/202

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/vinyl

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/images/...Audio_0434.jpg

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/images/..._Audio_063.jpg

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/images/..._Audio_028.jpg

http://www.homebuilthifi.com/images/..._Audio_100.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rdAudio063.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rdAudio028.jpg

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What speaker do you use?? Normally one needs full range speakers for classical...correct?

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Yes one does. Although apart from pipe organ, a speaker good to 40 Hz should work very well.

My speakers? Check my signature, below, where all is revealed. Note that my vinyl stuff, (Technics, etc.), isn't shown: it used to be, but since I haven't listened in a couple of years, I removed it.

Check my sig...

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Check my sig...

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Pops..how that cart sounding now that you've had it and broken it in? What characteristics does it have? top end extended? Mids rich? Not to laid back? How is it?

This really is a nice table. Its really smooth in its presentation. I cant say its lacking in anything. If I could say anything negative about it, it needs a little chrome on it to break up the totally black look. But if it sounds this good now, its going to be great once I add new cables, Cart, and perhaps a new platform for it. Also with a new phono amp, and preamp. I think it was noob who said build around it. And thats what I set out to do...I have a vinyl copy and CD copy of Miles "kind of Blue". Its two totally different presentations to my ears. The vinyl has a more smooth, liquid sound that seems to just presents it self really smooth like rolling with fluid through the speakers, which I cant say for the presentation of the CD, which is also very good, but just a different presentation to my ears...

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1609/pict0171i.jpg

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Got this retip job back from Soundsmith, yesterday. Figured it deserved a spot in frenchmon's photo thread, even though it might not get a turn on the P5 for a little while yet.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/...1494eeae_b.jpg

Nice....I'll tell you what. Send it to me and I will make sure it gets a turn....that way I can tell you how it sounds and you wont have to wait.:devil:

I'm so old I thought this thread was about tape decks. Back in the day folks used their deck to record from their TT.