-
Emo at it again
For all "those who cares emotiva has a "jollyday" blast coming now through the holiday 10% and free shipping (except the UMC) I might diving in myself this time.
http://www.emotiva.com/
-
Thanks for the tip. Although I have no real purpose other than curiosity and possibly a backup I have really been tempted to try a XPA-2, for $719.00 and free shipping it's really tempting.
-
Hi Mr. P.,
From all of the reviews out there the XPA-2 is supposed to be a real beast. I know you most likely know that and as you have said you don't need another amp but it is very tempting when they are selling an amp of that caliber for that price. It would be interesting to see how it would compare with your Krell. I have the XPA-3 and it does fairly well driving my speakers and the XPA-2 is supposed to be quite a bit better. I eventually want to purchase a pair of XPA-1's for my HT and move my XPA-3 to center and rear duty instead of powering my fronts and center.
Hope you and frenchmon are doing well.
-
What speakers do you have? From the way you said It sounds like there could be room for improvement.
I see Emo also has some real reasonable subs. Any one heard anything about these?
-
Hi Mr. P.,
My Speakers are av123 LS6 speakers. They are designed by Danny Ritchey of GR Research and they have 8 6.5inch drivers and 6 planar tweeters per speaker. They have 90db sensitivity and are not extremely hard to drive but they certainly do better when driven with a powerful power amp. I think the XPA-3 powers them well, but there's always room for improvement and that's why I'd like to get the XPA-1s at some point. I think most people would be happy with the power and control that the XPA-3 has but for me, I sometimes like to really turn up some of my music and I know that the XPA-2 and especially the XPA-1s would certainly give me a substantial upgrade in that department, as well as an improvement in sound quality.
I'm certainly interested in hearing if anyone has had any experience with the Emo. Subs too.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Thanks for the tip. Although I have no real purpose other than curiosity and possibly a backup I have really been tempted to try a XPA-2, for $719.00 and free shipping it's really tempting.
Pull the trigger!!! Pull the trigger!!!
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Thanks for the tip. Although I have no real purpose other than curiosity and possibly a backup I have really been tempted to try a XPA-2, for $719.00 and free shipping it's really tempting.
my thoughts exactly "Mr Peabody" that XPA-2 at $719.00 free shipping really got me thinking cause I could really start a relationship with a power amp. and this looks like the right time to "save me $105.00 ??!!:thumbsup:
-
Tapping his glass with a spoon, I'd like to thank all of you who have been so eager to help me spend my money. :)
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by devuonoste
Hi Mr. P.,
My Speakers are av123 LS6 speakers. They are designed by Danny Ritchey of GR Research and they have 8 6.5inch drivers and 6 planar tweeters per speaker. They have 90db sensitivity and are not extremely hard to drive but they certainly do better when driven with a powerful power amp. I think the XPA-3 powers them well, but there's always room for improvement and that's why I'd like to get the XPA-1s at some point. I think most people would be happy with the power and control that the XPA-3 has but for me, I sometimes like to really turn up some of my music and I know that the XPA-2 and especially the XPA-1s would certainly give me a substantial upgrade in that department, as well as an improvement in sound quality.
I'm certainly interested in hearing if anyone has had any experience with the Emo. Subs too.
YOU'VE GOT THE LS6?????? BOY YOU DEVIL YOU!.....So what are they like? I've always been interested in the Strata Mini. Did you get the cabinets only or the ones with the drivers?
-
Hi frenchmon,
I purchased the complete speakers about a year or so ago. I got an amazing deal on B-Stock ones, where only one speaker had one small blemish that they fixed and is barely noticeable unless you are very close to the speaker. The LS6's are amazing. They are massive so you need a decent sized room for them to be at their best. They have a bass management system so you can tailor them to your particular room size, within reason. My room is relatively small (18 x 12 x 8) but I think they work well in my room. Any smaller and they probably wouldn't work very well.
The LS6's are extremely dynamic and have great bass and good detail. They have an amazing soundstage in both depth and width and imaging of these is like a really good high end bookshelf speaker. They have a very natural sound to them and I find many of my CD's sound as if you are at a live performance. The LS6's really let you hear and feel the music. On the one hand they are like real brutes and can pound you in the chest and on the other hand they can be very delicate. I think they are one of the best performing speakers out there, especially considering the price. The only issue I have sometimes is that I find they are a tad bright, but as we discussed many times before in one of my other threads, that is due to my Yammy and some of my recordings.
I will be getting a tube pre-amp from Space Tech Lab (the "QA-100001" without the aluminum top) in July and eventually I will get a tube power amp from there when I save some more money. I had a tube integrated for a little while and it certainly improved the sound quality and removed the brightness from my system. I can't wait to finalize my 2ch system.
Hope you're doing well.
Take Care
-
Whew!
...misunderstood the thread title...thought I was gonna have to pull out this old chestnut...
http://www.owensworld.com/funnyimage...idsak0_big.jpg
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Tapping his glass with a spoon, I'd like to thank all of you who have been so eager to help me spend my money. :)
There will be plenty of time to thank us, after you spend your money.
:devil:
-
I went crazy. I ordered two Ultra 12 subs, at $359.00 each and free shipping it was too tempting. The XPA-2 was out of stock as well the USP-1. For some reason the website charged me for the preamp though but just gave a raincheck for the XPA-2.
Of course, I'm going to swap gear around to see what the amp and preamp can do once they arrive. I'm going to use the subs in my second system. How do you think a sub and Heresy on each channel would rock? I want to utilize the crossover in the USP-1 to do this. These are just my plans, everything is subject to change depending on how the stuff performs and if I keep it all. If the XPA-2 performs as well as it looks on paper it will be a steal at $719.00 and free shipping. That's cheaper than the Rotel or Adcom 200x2 amps.
-
If the USP-1 sounds better than the UMC-1 I picked up a few months ago, you'll be happy. As a pre-amp, it certainly sounds better than any of the integrateds or pre-amps I've owned and definitely upgraded the Yamaha receiver it replaced. Let us know how it goes.
-
Emotiva has great service as well. I needed a few interconnects and had some Monster THX speakers which needed re-termination. The Monster's bananas were too small (a known problem, I found out about too late) and would fall out of the speaker terminals. Emo has termination kits which include four very nice banana plugs, black and red insulators (which the individual +/- speaker wires through) and shrink tubing for a neat look. 2M Ultra stereo interconnects were $8/pr and the termination kits $8 a set, free shipping.
When the package arrived, I terminated the Monster cables (which now have nice "Emotiva" labels on them), but found there were several set screws missing from the termination kits. I emailed Emotiva and Cathy said they would "round up a few" set screws and ship them to me. I expected either a very small box, or envelope with a few set screws inside. Instead, they sent entire replacements kits within a few days. I know at $8/ea, they won't break the bank, but it gives some insight into their attitude towards customer satisfaction.
In the past they had also been very flexible. I purchased a pair of ERM-1 when they were on clearance and an XPA-5. If you purchased three or more ERM-1s you received free shipping, otherwise shipping was $10/pr. After hearing the ERM-1s, I decided to buy a third for the front end of another 5.1 system. Emotiva not only shipped the third speaker free, but credited the $10 I paid for the previously pair. I have no complaints about their quality or service.
-
Ya know, I remember picking up an LPA-1 a couple of years ago, just don't remember what I did with it...
OH! Here it is on its way to its final resting place behind the brown door:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...tivaamp005.jpg
Outta sight outta mind I guess. I should take it out and pet it once-in-a-while, don't you think? :smilewinkgrin:
-
Kex, did I miss it or are you holding out on us? I didn't know you bought an Emo processor. What is your set up now? Don't you love us any more?
-
Oh, I got my shipping confirmation today and the USP-1 must be in stock despite what the website said because they shipped me one. Now if I only had an amp. I will probably give it the ultimate test and put it in the main system for a listen. That might be pretty cool, then I can see how the phono stage does.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Kex, did I miss it or are you holding out on us? I didn't know you bought an Emo processor. What is your set up now? Don't you love us any more?
Don't think I announced it to the world before today. Think I got it in March or April. i've been busy. It replaced an aging $1200 or so MSRP Yamaha receiver from the year before HDMI was available. It's connected to Emotiva's 7 channel amp and my my Epson projector.
There's a few things that I don't like about it, but all in all it is a big step forward for me, especially in 2 channel performance. On the downside, there were 2 software revisions before the unit worked as well as I demand. For about 4 weeks or so I wasn't sure if I was going to keep it. Satisfied now.
I think I too may have to try the USP-1 next.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I went crazy. I ordered two Ultra 12 subs, at $359.00 each and free shipping it was too tempting. The XPA-2 was out of stock as well the USP-1. For some reason the website charged me for the preamp though but just gave a raincheck for the XPA-2.
Of course, I'm going to swap gear around to see what the amp and preamp can do once they arrive. I'm going to use the subs in my second system. How do you think a sub and Heresy on each channel would rock? I want to utilize the crossover in the USP-1 to do this. These are just my plans, everything is subject to change depending on how the stuff performs and if I keep it all. If the XPA-2 performs as well as it looks on paper it will be a steal at $719.00 and free shipping. That's cheaper than the Rotel or Adcom 200x2 amps.
:biggrin5: :biggrin5: :biggrin5:
I can't wait to read your thoughts on the Emotiva gear...
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Ya know, I remember picking up an LPA-1 a couple of years ago, just don't remember what I did with it...
OH! Here it is on its way to its final resting place behind the brown door:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...tivaamp005.jpg
Outta sight outta mind I guess. I should take it out and pet it once-in-a-while, don't you think? :smilewinkgrin:
What you do in the privacy of your own house trailer is your business.
I just run goood music through mine, keeps it happy.:1:
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I went crazy. I ordered two Ultra 12 subs, at $359.00 each and free shipping it was too tempting. The XPA-2 was out of stock as well the USP-1. For some reason the website charged me for the preamp though but just gave a raincheck for the XPA-2.
Of course, I'm going to swap gear around to see what the amp and preamp can do once they arrive. I'm going to use the subs in my second system. How do you think a sub and Heresy on each channel would rock? I want to utilize the crossover in the USP-1 to do this. These are just my plans, everything is subject to change depending on how the stuff performs and if I keep it all. If the XPA-2 performs as well as it looks on paper it will be a steal at $719.00 and free shipping. That's cheaper than the Rotel or Adcom 200x2 amps.
Kool...let me know when the party begins...I'll be right over. Lets see how it does with vinyl.
-
Kex, sounds like a nice set up. Have you tried the internal DAC for music? Didn't you pick up an ERC-1 last year?
-
Mr. P, I am looking forward to your review on the Emo Subs. I'm still looking for a sub for my 1.6's for 2ch . Unfortunately I'm on a budget and the $1K subs that I was looking at a few months ago will have to wait. I see that the Emo subs are sealed which is what I'm looking for.
-
Blackraven, they allow a return you should snag them while on sale with free shipping.
It's not sealed but you wouldn't be disappointed with a SVS either. SVS also offers what looks like a killer parametric EQ.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Kex, sounds like a nice set up. Have you tried the internal DAC for music? Didn't you pick up an ERC-1 last year?
Yes, the DAC isn't quite as nice sounding for CD's as my ERC-1 but it's no slouch. Dual Cirrus chips if I recall. Two things I remember noticing were better detail and wider soundstage in the ERC-1. I haven't done a comparison since the first few days I had it though, the ERC-1's DAC just sounded better to me.
That said, it handles analog (CD, SACD, etc) much, much better than the receiver did. I expected some improvement, but not quite this much.
It's clear to me Emotiva targeted the Integra DTR-9.8 (which I spent a lot of time with and was a solid Plan B for me) and recievers in the $1000-$2000 range with this thing. It's no Anthem but, for people like me that were using $1000+ a/v receivers as processors, this is a better option.
-
I got my subs already today. I haven't had a chance to do much with them except open one to take a look. The USP-1 is back ordered. A funny thing about opening the box, I took off the top styrofoam, in the top of the styrofoam was embedded another flat box which contains the grill, I lifted the sub out, giving it the once over, hey, where's the power cord and I thought this thing had feet, looked in the box, felt between the styrofoam and box, thought about emailing Emo for a split second then thought why not take the bottom piece out before I do just to make sure, well, sure enough another box was embedded in the bottom of the bottom styrofoam, if I hadn't lifted it out of the bottom of the box I would have never seen it. Oh, the box had power cord and a set of feet and spikes. I guess tomorrow I will power them up.
I got a free T-shirt too. It's nice, black with the Emo emblem on front and their website on back.
-
I have a funny Emotiva-related story. I had purchased several speaker termination kits and interconnects during the 4th of July sale. The order shipped in two small boxes which I tracked online. I saw they were delivered, so expected to have the boxes when I arrived home.
When I arrived, no boxes. I wasn't concerned and was going to ask the neighbors if they signed for the delivery. Before I could, another neighbor, over a mile away, called to say he had my "boxes". I could hear hesitation in his voice, so said "Ah good, I wondered what happened to my "audio cables". He replied, "Oh, audio cables, right.".
I didn't know this person and arranged to pick up the boxes. The old codger apparently saw "Emotiva" on the boxes and thought they were "intimate toys", I had sent to his address to avoid embarrassment. I opened the box to assure him they weren't. We had a good chuckle and now he now has a new story to share with friends over coffee.
-
The Ultra 12's look great and everything about them seems to be quality. The grill is one of the most substantial I've seen on any sub, the frame is thick and heavy. You get a set of both rubber feet AND spikes. I used the rubber feet that screw in. They are cone shape with point down. You don't get a lot of fancy features but you do get the basics like auto turn on, phase control, you can use a single or dual RCA connection, you even get an XLR input, and the crossover bypass switch. The only thing I noticed not quite top notch, the power cord is a bit of a loose fit but seems to stay in fine. Already a 12" sub with this type of power and fit, even if it has average performance it's already a good deal for the price.
Here's what I did and this is only about a 14x14 room, I have my Krell integrated driving a pair of Klipsch, Heresy. From the pre out I connected a Ultra 12 to each channel. I also wanted to elevate the Heresy, so I sat each Heresy on a sub. My crossover point was probably around 60Hz. In this set up the Heresy will still get full range. In deed, the Emo subs can perform. I like them for music better than I did my Velodyne but that really isn't saying much as I thought the Velodyne was terrible for music. They don't seem to be as fast and invisible as my SVS but there is significant price difference. Here's what they did though, with something like Marcus Miller with good low end the subs did not distort and the SPL was unreal. I could feel the bass pounding my body like at a Rock concert. The Ultra 12's have some beefy output to keep up with a 250x2 Krell driving 98dB sensitive speakers, the sub's volume is slightly over 12 o'clock. I took the volume around to full and the amp has plenty of additional headroom from where I have my volume set. They seemed to play low with a CD they does a frequency sweep I will have to put more music to them tomorrow. By the time I got them set up and ran some music it was already getting late. Didn't think the wife and kids would appreciate that type of SPL on through the night. :)
I don't think you can buy a better sub for the money. They're cheap enough I'd recommend two just because you can and the SPL I experienced was a thrill. I wish I had started another thread, I think I will.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I don't think you can buy a better sub for the money. They're cheap enough I'd recommend two just because you can and the SPL I experienced was a thrill. I wish I had started another thread, I think I will.
Did you know the Emotiva sub has a cousin?
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3...71c8755cce.jpg
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Before Emotiva launched their own product, they where sold as AV123 product. Mark Schifter, the founder of AV123, Rocket Loud Speakers and Perpetual Technologies continues to have a long rocky friendship with , Dan Laufman, the senior partner in Emotiva.
-
Playing with placement of the U12 I found just one placed in the corner created lower bass than the way I had the two set up. Not as much physical sensation that way but more low end reinforcement for less, one less sub at a lower gain on the volume knob.
|