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    Using Pass-Through of Tube Preamp to Acheive HT

    Hopefully I can word this correctly and not sound completely incompetent. I finally saved up and have my dream stereo tube setup (McIntosh MC275 and C2500) for vinyl delight. I am researching how I can utilize my FR & FL connected to that setup as the fronts for my HT setup (center channel and sub, no surrounds) using the pass-through feature of the C2500. I am using balanced interconnects with the tube gear. Fronts are Klipsch RF-5s. Center is Klipsch RC-35, sub is SVS 25-31PC. I have a Marantz NR1403 receiver with SW, FR & FL preouts (unbalanced) and regular center channel speaker connection. Can I use balanced in one part of the system and unbalanced in the other? I have looked into AV Processors such as the Marantz AV8801 or 7005 that would solve the bal/unbal issue, but those do not (as far as I can tell) have a speaker connection for a center channel. I would be very interested to know how others would go about accomplishing this project. Thanks for reading.

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    Yes, you can use balanced and unbalanced together. My system is fully balanced except for my DAC which is singled ended. So I use XLR's for every thing except my DAC and phono preamp.

    To use the HT bypass you connect the front channel preamp out (low level outputs) of your AV receiver to a preamp input of you preamp which goes to the front channel speakers that are connected to the 2ch preamp. The other channels-center and rears are driven by the AVR. Same goes for the sub out.

    I use to use this configuration with my Adcom AVR and AVA 2ch preamp. Now I have a separate set of speakers for home theater.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    Thank you. I think the Marantz I have will work for what I need right now. When it comes time to upgrade the receiver/processor, I'll revisit this again.

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    I just realized that my Oppo BDP-105 Blu-Ray player has balanced outputs that I can send to the preamp bal inputs. It even has an HDMI Input that I can use for the DirecTV/Cable. I would be sacrificing the center and the sub for now, but this will be a very clean setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimes View Post
    Thank you. I think the Marantz I have will work for what I need right now. When it comes time to upgrade the receiver/processor, I'll revisit this again.
    That Marantz will work. It has front channel preamp out that you can send to the Mac preamp and utilize the HT bypass.

    Another option is to use a speaker selector switch for you front channels. You can hook it up in reverse. I set of speakers to 2 amps.

    DPS-1 | Switching Systems | Niles Audio
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    If your amp is tube, why waste tube life on HT? Also, although your pass through set up might work technically, I wouldn't recommend it. I tried HT pass through with Conrad Johnson, I think my center and rears were using Arcam amp at the time, the difference in sound characters between the two amps drove me crazy. What I do now is basically have two systems that share the front L/R but I physically switch the speaker cables at the back of the speaker to what ever system I want to use. You could do this just use the receiver for all your surround duty then switch bac to the Mac for stereo. This isn't a big deal using cables with banana plugs, a quick switch.

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    You bring up some good points, Peabody. I had previously thought about using two sets of speaker cables. That might be the way to go. I watch a good bit of TV, and it would be a waste to be using tube life that whole time. Thats not what I bought the Mac stuff for, after all.

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